Arians Speaks
Bruce Arians spoke publicly for the first time since last season here:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10140/1059455-66.stm
and here:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_682019.html
I don't know what to say. He's like the idiot that married your sister. Yeah, you love your sister, but every time he opens his mouth, you wonder what she sees in him. What can you do? Just continue to smile and pretend, for her sake, everything is okay.
Fortunately, the Steelers are not my sister.
From what I read, I got the impression that ol' Bruce really doesn't agree that his run game sucked last year. Oh, I get it, the receivers were the running backs, because in his mind, a short pass is really a run. It's all so clear now.
"Take the Super Bowl for example. There were seven catches or six catches Santonio [Holmes] had that were running plays when [there were] safeties blitz that are unblockable, and you have runs called. So it's not a 'number' of runs because we threw the ball out there and got a bunch of yards. 'Oh, that's a good pass.' No, that was a running play. That happens quite often. And what we do, we take some short screen stuff and treat that as [part of the] running game."
No, that wasn't clear at all. Sorry.
But, he did talk about the past success in the short yardage game with - Garry Russell?
"I think the critical runs, short-yardage, goal line, have been a problem," Arians said. "They got addressed (in 2008) with Gary Russell.
I've gotten older, my memory is Swiss Cheese at this point, can anyone refresh me as to when Gary Russell was "Addressing" the short yardage woes of the Steelers? And if he was, why didn't the Steelers keep using him?
This little gem made me choke on my Copenhagen:
"When we came out of training camp last year, we were running the ball as well as we have since Super Bowl XL (in 2005),"
Maybe, just maybe, Ariens was the bad influence on Holmes. He seems to be smoking the same stuff.
Of course, It's not Ariens fault that his team struggled against 4-3 defenses. It's not like it is his job to, you know, get his offense ready to play the next team. What, was it a shock to him when these teams lined up in a 4-3?
"We're having success in training camp, running the ball pretty good. Now the problem occurs when you see a different style, when you see penetrating 4-3 (defensive linemen). It's a totally different technique for the offensive line and tight ends."
That last quote smells like Bruce is the type of guy that doesn't take into account what the other team is doing. You know, the guys that says "Were going to play our game", no matter what. Which is fine when you impose your will on the other team, not when your running game sucks.
I'm hoping that Mr. Arians said this just to be nice to his friend :
Larry did a hell of a job
He is of course speaking of that guy we all know and love, Larry Zierlein. Yeah, he did a hell of a job, unless, the Steelers had to run against a 4-3 defense (or any defense), get short, critical yardage, or had to run a few minutes off the clock at the end of the game. Like I said, I hope Bruce was just showing the flag for a friend, otherwise, he is just delusional - Which I'm not ruling out.
I get the impression from reading these, and this is all just my opinion, that Bruce doesn't really think there was anything wrong with his performance last year. He seems to give excuses (4-3 defense, unblockable defensive plays) for his performance. Or, he says that some of the passing game is really the running game. Really? I get the impression he thinks we are just too dumb to understand all this, or too dumb to see through all his B.S.
It seems to me that he does not see any failure running the ball last year, even though he said it, and he is not really with the program. Kind of like he is being forced to address the running game, and he is doing it reluctantly. I just don't think he believes in what he is being told to do. Does anyone else feel this way, or am I putting a negative slant on what I'm reading because I already don't like the guy (Professionally).
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I want to throw tomatoes at this guy
I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
+1
Arians is a hack…
"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on May 24, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
You hit the nail on the head
Your assessment seems dead on to me. In fact, after the numbers the offense put up last year, he must be frustrated that he gets nothing but hate from many fans and possibly the FO, while Coach LeBeau is beloved by all. Many people, including certain people that post on this site, realize the D had some issues last year and cost us dome games. It does not seem to require too much of a leap in logic to guess that BA must feel like the heat should go to the D rather than the O, but he can’t say that, so he gives us the BS answers. I think he really wants to say something along the lines of “our offense rocked, we don’t need to run the ball more, we can score at will, and if the D hadn’t choked in multiple games, we would have been in the playoffs. Shit, the d-backs sucked and none of those guys got canned, so WTF is up with all these complaints?” I’m not saying I agree with him, I’m just trying to get in his head and make sense of his comments. To be clear, I am not a fan of BA for many reasons, chief among them because he does believe that a Full Back is necessary.
I'm your huckleberry
Change that to
move the ball between the 20’s at will and we’re good.
If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.
Or more accurately
Move the ball between the 20s at will unless it’s the 4th quarter and we’re trying to hold on to a lead.
Not disputing the point that the defense declined a hell of a lot more than the offense in ’09 when compared to ’08, just saying that “mistakes were made” all around.
by TheSpatulaMessiah on May 20, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s like the idiot that married your sister.
Fantastic. I despise Bruce Arians and think if we had a competent OC we would be Super Bowl bound this year.
by TheCincinnatiConqueror on May 20, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
Hey Bruce......
How does that saying go? “Better to be thought of an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
This guy is just a flat out dip shit!
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
~Thomas Jefferson
Like Noll once said, when fans criticize individual bits of strategy, what they’re really saying is “why don’t you win?” Find a way to do it, guys.
Seriously, I agree with the principle that running effectively is more important than number of attempts. We’ll just have to see whether BA can actually make it happen, since it’s been a weakness for some time during his reign.
As far as this bit goes…
From what I read, I got the impression that ol’ Bruce really doesn’t agree that his run game sucked last year. Oh, I get it, the receivers were the running backs, because in his mind, a short pass is really a run. It’s all so clear now.
“Take the Super Bowl for example. There were seven catches or six catches Santonio [Holmes] had that were running plays when [there were] safeties blitz that are unblockable, and you have runs called. So it’s not a ‘number’ of runs because we threw the ball out there and got a bunch of yards. ‘Oh, that’s a good pass.’ No, that was a running play. That happens quite often. And what we do, we take some short screen stuff and treat that as [part of the] running game.”
No, that wasn’t clear at all. Sorry.
I was confused by that quote in the first article too. The second one basically paraphrases and says that he’s saying that there are lots of called runs that get changed into passes at the LOS after they see how the defense is lining up.
by TheSpatulaMessiah on May 20, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
Screwed up the block-quoting....
But I’m sure you get the point.
by TheSpatulaMessiah on May 20, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This was the relivant stuff.
we take some short screen stuff and treat that as [part of the] running game."
the rest was kind of an illistration, a fun little example if you will, of your idiot brother-in-law openig his mouth.
So if they "could" run against a D in a run alinement
would they still pass? I remember a day, heck a decade the Steelers did not care if you knew they were going to run it or not and they still ate up clock at will.
If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.
Also lost in the playoffs.
Cowher could run the ball all day, but he didn’t win a Super Bowl until he had a QB that could put up some points on the Colts.
Just running the ball down people’s throats doesn’t work. Even when you have Jerome Bettis and Kordel Stewart you don’t win a Super Bowl. But for some reason a crappy O-line and a pass heavy offense did just that in 2008. The defenses were awesome for both, but one continually failed to get it done, the other pulled it off.
I don’t want a pass happy offense, I want a balanced offense that can run out the clock when we have a lead. But I also remember that only 2 of our 6 Super Bowl wins featured a really good running performance and that of the 6 MVP’s 3 were WR, 2 were QB and 1 was a RB.
Running all day is great, but putting up solid rushing numbers and a better aerial attack has served the Steelers better.
by Phantaskippy on May 20, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
excatly
its not how many times you run the ball, but how effectively you run the ball
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by WVPiratesfan on May 20, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this statement in general
Its not how many times you have children, Its how effectively you have them.
Its not how many times you rob a bank, its how effectively you rob them.
Its not how many joints you smoke, its how effectively you smoke them.
Its not how many girls you rape, its how effectively you rape them. see big ben
booooooooooooooooooo
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Fortunately my sister's husband is no idiot
However, I agree that Arians never seems to publicly acknowledge the glaring issues. Though drafting Pouncey is a bit of an admittance, wouldn’t you say?
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
Would love to know exactly what went on in the war room
I’d bet Arians had nothing to do with drafting Pouncey.
"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge
by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
come to think of it
How much input do the coordinators really have? Rooney wants to get back to running..and so it was written.
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on May 20, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I can hear the Colbert-Arians phone call now
Bruce: “Whaddya mean we’re drafting a lineman? Can he play TE? Nothing’s wrong with the current line dammit. Now I’ve told y’all Willie Colon is the best there is, and if you’d just listen to me about this LeCharles Bentley fellow… Who would I pick? Nate Byham: tight end from right here in our own back yard, he’s a guy you’d spend the 18th overall pick on. Mark my words, with the 6-tight end set as our signature offense we will unleash a hell upon this NFL the likes of which has never been seen. Screw the Quarterback position-5 linemen 6 tight ends all the way baby! Kevin? Kevin? Dammit all! >Hangs up and dials again< Hello Mr. Davis? It’s Bruce and boy have I got a helluva proposition for you.”
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OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are believed to be "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on May 20, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Arians a Douche.............
Art Rooney did not say the Steelers needed to run the ball more; he said they needed to run it more effectively. Coach Mike Tomlin acknowledged as much later, and Tuesday, Arians agreed in his first interview since the end of the season.
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10140/1059455-66.stm#ixzz0oVlvGkWp
Effective running? Not creative short passing? Passing is just that, passing. And running is that, running. If I pass a ball ten yards down the field, its caught, and my reciever falls, its still 10 yards. If I hand the ball to a horse and he rumbles for four, smashes a lid and knees for one more, thats 35 yards. How you ask? (Punishment you bitch ass NFC west MoFo, punishment). Those pounding knees take a toll.
(It pays off when the other team tire you fools)
Steelers Football.
I believe Mr. Arians is living in a dream world as tho he created this team. AHHEM…… Anyone remember Ken Wisenhunt? On Jan. 27, 2007 Arians became the Off. Coord. of this(his) team, or the remnance of Kennys boys. KW won two rings IMO, Arians has won 0. Just because his lucky ass is on the sideline means nothing to me……..He is a schmuck.
GOOOOOSFRAAAAAAABBA!!!!!!
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler."
-- Jack Lambert --
I've been watching a lot of A-Team trailors lately.....;.
You “FOOLS”!!!! LOL, totally not how I speak or sound…LOL
But GOOOOSFRAAAABA!!!!!! Bueno!
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler."
-- Jack Lambert --
Doubtful
I seriously doubt that they let Arians have a great deal of say in the draft board this year. He is gone after this season. No question. Ben no longer has the weight to protect him. We may be good again in 2011.
by Clubber Lang on May 24, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a bad feeling
We will see another absurd play calling year by Arians who is on the way out. Isn’t this the last year on his contract?
The future is not what it used to be.
AMF
"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge
by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Animated Mother Fuc….?
The future is not what it used to be.
by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Close
Adios Martha Focker
"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge
by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh
The future is not what it used to be.
by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Johnny
how do you do the block quote thing on here?
i am sure it is simple but i can’t figure it out.
thanks in advance for your help
"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert
Every done any HTML or coding? You need to put the text you want inside of “blockquote” tags. So i would do something like this:
<blockquote*>Johnny_S rocks!</blockquote*>
But leave out the *s
The future is not what it used to be.
by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
never have, just basic pc skills
let me try this
Johnny_S rocks!
"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert
Looks like you did two block quotes
Johnny_S rocks!
The future is not what it used to be.
by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
he's ssaying you rock the box..... doh!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
one more try
ARN ROCKS THE BOX
TWSS
"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert
FAIL
I can’t even imagine how badly I’d fail at that. I’ll just stick with the traditional "" .. .. .. ""
"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge
by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
copy the phrase and paste.
then highlight it and click the "
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
how do you do a block quote and then "your message" below the block?
"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert
see above
do that and then type outside the quotes
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
do that and then type outside the quotes
how’s that?
"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert
fuck me
"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert
fuck me
Nice
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
~Thomas Jefferson
FML???
lol!
"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on May 24, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
TWSS
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
rrrrrr
do that and then type outside the quotes
now i’m done
"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert
you did it
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
win
The future is not what it used to be.
by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus I hope so!
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
~Thomas Jefferson
Where is George Carlin?
"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge
by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
6 feet lower than us
I’d assume
too soon?
The future is not what it used to be.
by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he may be much lower than that!
"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge
by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
doh!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
He's saving me a seat
"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge
by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
There are no seats there
just hot rocks
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I don’t think you are allowed to sit down there…
The future is not what it used to be.
by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
No but partying is allowed
With Morrison, Dean, etc., no original thoughts……Damn!
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler."
-- Jack Lambert --
Its hard to party when you're in darkness and intense heat
no beer and no instruments, just peaple screaming and biting each other.
Sorry for the buzz kill. :)
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Mosh Pit?
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on May 21, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
you beat me.
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on May 21, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
doh!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Davy Jonses' Locker!!!
LMFAO!!!
"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on May 24, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
pretty sure that is the case
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on May 20, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure how to execute the gray quote thingy on here but
this has to be the best thing i’ve read on here
“This little gem made me choke on my Copenhagen”
"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert
Excuses
“Excuses are the tools of incompetence that build monuments of nothing and bridges that lead to no where”.
This is what concerns me about Bruce, always an excuse. This is unacceptable.
A homeless guy
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I'm sorry...
I heard that in my head and laughed so I thought I’d share. That’s my excu…… never mind
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I forgot the last part
“Those that specialize in them are seldom good at anything else” I hope BA realizes his job is on the line if we don’t get the running game going this year.
Jim Caldwell
yeah im a Colts Homer. lol
by metal_militia on May 24, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No excuse
Sounds to me likehe admitted there was trouble in short yardage, goal line , four minute, and any other obvious run situations so calling more running plays would have been playing to our own weakness;. I won’t defend the guy outright, but I think the line talent and line coach, have been the issue here for couple years, 08 speaks for itself, and last year the list of things wrong with the Steelers went way beyond the run game. It was likely a mistake to give evryone a free pass after the super bowl but they’ve now addressed both the talent and the coaching, what else do you want? What do you want him to say? " My friend Larry is a shitty coach and so am I, oh yeah, and most of the players on the o-line, the only ones under contract with the Steelers the past few years, they all suck too, and probably wouldnt start on several other teams in the league. We all love to rave about Colberts successes in the draft, but he hasnt hit on anything more than a project lineman for years to the point that we’ve had an entire project o-line. If the team becomes capable of running better, and still doesnt, then, i’ll pile on with you guys, till then i’ll just be glad noone is asking me to explain or defend the steelers offense.
Well spoken
Unlike B.A…Baracus, That Mo Fo is afraid to run…..Fu(
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler."
-- Jack Lambert --
sorry didn't take........Well spoken
Unlike B.A…Baracus, screw a fear of flying, That Mo Fo is afraid to run…..Fu(K him. A running game? Really? Thats why BB set all those franchise “PASSING” records. What a douche. Does he know Steelers Football? He ran like Favre commits to a season. Foor Gods sake. BA is full of BS. This tool.
GOOOOOOSFRAAAABA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ll relax…..eventually.
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler."
-- Jack Lambert --
Forgive typos
I’m seeing red and cant self edit!!!! FU(K BA!!!!!
P.S. I have some issues.
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler."
-- Jack Lambert --
Dear Bruce
1. You run to make the other team’s safeties blitz. Then, when the safeties do blitz, you pass.
2. You make them bring an extra safety into the box by running well against a front 7 to begin with.
3. You run on 3rd and 1, you pass on 3rd and 11. Not the other way around.
ha
+1 to #3
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick. (By the way, Hines was a 3rd round draft pick)
by kick him in the head on May 21, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Arians.
His problem here is he is trying to describe the situations that lead to fewer rushes (not doing so hot either) to a mob of angry fans bent on pinning last season on him.
To beat a dead horse here, how many OC’s have won a Super Bowl with a craptastic O-Line and no running game by putting 27 points on the board? It’s not like we were loaded with HoF caliber players in their prime either. We had Holmes, Washington, Heath and a banged up Hines. They knew our only real threat was Holmes, yet him and Ben were in position to make plays the whole game.
You can say all you want about Arians, but him Ben and Holmes got it done at the end of the game, and made key plays throughout.
To get back to Arians comments, I think he’s trying to say that his offense (like almost all offenses) has reads to exploit safeties coming up in the box. His offense is built around manipulating safeties and making them pick a guy then going to the other one. Ben’s pump fakes accentuate the design and open up the field even more.
In this offense, if he calls a run and Ben sees the Safety move up the run becomes a pass. We have good success on those plays, they aren’t the problem. We also showed an ability to put up numbers when the O-line got a push, we had 4 games over 150 yrds rushing, and 6 over 125. The 6 games under 100 yards could be blames, but we were 4-2 in those 6 games.
Let me say that again. Our 6 games with the least rushing yards we were 4-2. The three worst rushing performances we won.
The stat that line up best with wins and losses? Forcing Turnovers.
When the Steelers forced even a single turnover we were 8-2. With no turnovers forced we were 1-5. You want to find out why we lost? I think you start there.
BTW the second best correlation was rush defense, 2-4 when giving up 100 yards on the ground, 7-3 when holding the opponent under 100. Pass defense shows no correlation at all. My favorite bad correlation is turning the ball over, we were 5-2 in games we turned the ball over 2 or more times.
I say it a lot, but Steeler football is not running the ball. Steeler football is the nastiest defense you’ll see all year. When we have that we win. Pass, run, no offense at all, we win. Defense stumbles, kiss the season goodbye. With Holmes gone, Ben sitting at home, Parker gone, Ward still banged up and our best O-lineman probably a rookie our offense doesn’t look so hot. But seriously, if we get back to 2008 defense, it won’t matter. Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl as a QB, and Arians as an OC. Defense is where it matters.
by Phantaskippy on May 20, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
It takes courage...
to defend BA in this blog, and I tip my hat off to you. Tough to argue against your post, as much as we may dislike the guy. He had a not-insignificant hand in getting One for the Thumb. It’s not the first toughtful post I’ve seen that pinpoints in detail the real problems on offense last year. It is simplistic to focus solely on impressions, and the ESPN-type knee-jerk reaction to blame play calling and “going away from the run”. You dance with who brung ya, and if that year, it doesn’t happen to be the run, then you make the most of it. However, you will agree with me that BA could use a lesson on messaging or spin-doctoring, or two.
by Flying Polamalus on May 21, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
You beat your dead horse, I'll beat mine.
To beat a dead horse here, how many OC’s have won a Super Bowl with a craptastic O-Line and no running game by putting 27 points on the board?
I don’t know, but Arians’ offense only put up 20, 7 of which came on a no-huddle drive.
I also don’t understand your defense of Arians’ mediocrity. So the Steelers’ defense is great one year and we win the Super Bowl and the defense is (gasp) 5th in the NFL another year and we miss the playoffs. Maybe if we could run or pass the ball against 4-3 defenses and safety blitzes, we could make the playoffs with a top 10 defense.
I’m not saying our defense wasn’t a problem last year; it was, particularly our pass defense. My point is that our offense was mediocre, and has been each year under Arians, and it shouldn’t be.
What part of the offensive roster, exactly, was lacking? We had a great QB, a good and versatile RB, 3 very good WR’s, and great TE. We also saw our OL make big strides in both pass protection and the running game. They weren’t great but watching them, there was nothing craptastic about them. When I watch all that talent running around the field and stagnate for several quarters at a time and get absolutely stonewalled at other times, there’s just no way I can say we have a good plan.
Our defense will return to form when our best player and pass defender comes back healthy. That doesn’t make our offense any less mediocre, though.
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by BadMaafala on May 21, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Look I’m not here to say Arians is a good co-ordinator. The man runs a good passing game. That is his strength. You want some Arians bashing? Our offensive production weighted by opponent strength has dropped significantly since Arians took over. Even over the abysmal 2006. He needs to do better. But even in 2006 the offense was declining. The great O-Line was getting old and our running game dropped off in short yardage. Rebuilding the O-line and dedicating our team to being able to run the clock out better would fix this offense’s problems.
Seriously. We need to be able to pick up short yardage and then run out the clock better. We haven’t been a great short yardage team since Bettis and his O-Line of doom. We need the O-line and a RB to pick up the yards. I think the O-line is getting there and the RB’s are on the roster. Let’s see what happens this year with that. I think if we can’t pull it off this year Arians is gone, but up till now he has managed to take lemons and make lemon juice out of the short yardage game. Let’s see if he can do something if we give him a bit more.
I don’t have a problem with a pass first offense. When you have Jerome Bettis in his prime and Kordel Stewart at QB you invest in O-line and run the ball. When you have Ben Roethlisberger and Willie Parker you invest in WR’s and throw the ball. Now we have Mendenhall, some backups that show promise, BL or DD at QB and we lost Holmes. Let’s see how our offense works this season.
The point I was making in my post was that Arians is getting trashed like he single-handedly ruined our season and cost us games. The problem is there is little correlation between offensive production and wins from last year. The Steelers win on defense and enough offense to get it done.
For me this is Arians year to show what he can do. Lot’s of pressure and a lot of things going against this offense. If he can put up decent points (20 & up) without Ben then I say he’s not the loser we think he is. Look at our offense, really. O-Line still in the bottom half of the league, WR core has questions, and that’s about it. QB is either Leftwich or a guy with one start and no wins. Any team facing a year with this offense would be expected to suck. Really if you swap our offensive players over to the Browns, Bengals or Ravens we’d be laughing at them. Mendenhall is our best weapon at this point with Ward injured.
If by the end of the year we get our run game problems drastically reduced (not expecting 2004, just a lot better than 2009) make the playoffs winning two without Ben I think Arians keeps his job. I won’t have a problem with it either.
by Phantaskippy on May 21, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree that BA is on the leash. He might have been forgiven during the Ravens game when he had little time with DD but now he knows that back up will have to play and he has 6 months to prep him and plan for him. Week 6 is the Browns. He needs to make sure that the heads aren’t hanging in shame for that game.
how many OC’s have won a Super Bowl with a craptastic O-Line and no running game by putting 27 points on the board?
I don’t know, but Arians didn’t either. The defense scored 7 of those points (then turned around and gave up the lead late in the game). But, just like in 2008 the Steelers won it all as a team, in 2009, they lost many games and missed the playoffs as a team.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 21, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
But, just like in 2008 the Steelers won it all as a team, in 2009, they lost many games and missed the playoffs as a team.
Agreed.
The offense didn’t help the defense, the defense didn’t help the offense late in games, and the kick coverage screwed everyone. I understand why we dislike Arians, but I dislike the offensive play calling of a lot of successful teams, chief among them the Colts, I hate their play calling.
But not every team gets Sean Peyton calling the plays. There aren’t a lot of talented OC’s running around begging for jobs, the best ones are hard to get, and they often become HC’s before long. It’s easy to say Arians is the worst ever and anyone off the street could outdo him, but it just isn’t true. He needs to step it up this year. He needs to help the defense, he needs to get some help from the defense and special teams too.
The biggest lesson from last season is turnovers. We force even one turnover we win. even when we lost the TO battle we won if we forced even a single turnover from the opposing team. We addressed our ST and Defense a lot this off-season, both of those should be better. The offense (on paper) is significantly worse. It should be less productive than last year.
by Phantaskippy on May 21, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
HOrse?
It’s not about beating the horse, though I would like too. This job has always been too big for him. He is an excellent QB coach. He is an awful offensive coordinator. You don’t take a team that has been drafting and traing roadgrading linemen for a decade and ask them to use the Bronco’s blocking schemes. He has never had a clue. He covers his ass with excuses when he fails, and he usually fails.
by Clubber Lang on May 24, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
CYA
That was why Larry Z left at the conclusion of the season. Shit roles downhill
by steelerstyle on May 24, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Though i would like nothing better than seeing Arian's run out of town by a lynch mob
I concede that the 08 & 09 talent better suited a pass oriented offense.
I’ll even concede that Arians develops has above average passing intellect or whatever label you like there. But I let the results and lack of points speak for themselves.
I do wonder if there is any rational explanation for why Heath at times disappears. After all it is first downs that grind out the clock.
by steelerstyle on May 24, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
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Larry Z
I hate Arians, etc etc etc, but I really think Zierlein got the short end of the stick. Our offensive line was at least average last year, and we did it with a bunch of scrubs. They weren’t outstanding in pass protection, but they were solid, despite all the coverage/Ben sacks. They also weren’t bad in the running game – they just never committed to sticking with it. The worst game for our OL – the Cleveland game – involved Cleveland sending more guys than we could block on seemingly every play.
Starks and Colon really blossomed this past year, and with a talented (and athletic) new IOL, I think we could have had a pretty good line under coach Z. Hopefully the transition goes smoothly, but it seems like an unnecessary stirring of the pot.
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BTW
If our red zone did not suck so bad, the super bowl would have been a blowout. 6 cracks at first and goal and we settle for a FG. I have always felt that red zone success is largely about play calling.
The whole super bowl year we won games in the no-huddle, aka no-arians.
The guy is lacking and the excuses have re-ignited my feelings.


































