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Arians Speaks

Bruce Arians spoke publicly for the first time since last season here:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10140/1059455-66.stm

and here:


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_682019.html

I don't know what to say. He's like the idiot that married your sister. Yeah, you love your sister, but every time he opens his mouth, you wonder what she sees in him. What can you do? Just continue to smile and pretend, for her sake, everything is okay.

Fortunately, the Steelers are not my sister.

From what I read, I got the impression that ol' Bruce really doesn't agree that his run game sucked last year. Oh, I get it, the receivers were the running backs, because in his mind, a short pass is really a run. It's all so clear now.

"Take the Super Bowl for example. There were seven catches or six catches Santonio [Holmes] had that were running plays when [there were] safeties blitz that are unblockable, and you have runs called. So it's not a 'number' of runs because we threw the ball out there and got a bunch of yards. 'Oh, that's a good pass.' No, that was a running play. That happens quite often. And what we do, we take some short screen stuff and treat that as [part of the] running game."



No, that wasn't clear at all. Sorry.

But, he did talk about the past success in the short yardage game with - Garry Russell?

"I think the critical runs, short-yardage, goal line, have been a problem," Arians said. "They got addressed (in 2008) with Gary Russell.

I've gotten older, my memory is Swiss Cheese at this point, can anyone refresh me as to when Gary Russell was "Addressing" the short yardage woes of the Steelers? And if he was, why didn't the Steelers keep using him?

This little gem made me choke on my Copenhagen:

"When we came out of training camp last year, we were running the ball as well as we have since Super Bowl XL (in 2005),"

Maybe, just maybe, Ariens was the bad influence on Holmes. He seems to be smoking the same stuff.

Of course, It's not Ariens fault that his team struggled against 4-3 defenses. It's not like it is his job to, you know, get his offense ready to play the next team. What, was it a shock to him when these teams lined up in a 4-3?

"We're having success in training camp, running the ball pretty good. Now the problem occurs when you see a different style, when you see penetrating 4-3 (defensive linemen). It's a totally different technique for the offensive line and tight ends."

That last quote smells like Bruce is the type of guy that doesn't take into account what the other team is doing. You know, the guys that says "Were going to play our game", no matter what. Which is fine when you impose your will on the other team, not when your running game sucks.

I'm hoping that Mr. Arians said this just to be nice to his friend :

Larry did a hell of a job

 He is of course speaking of that guy we all know and love, Larry Zierlein. Yeah, he did a hell of a job, unless, the Steelers had to run against a 4-3 defense (or any defense), get short, critical yardage, or had to run a few minutes off the clock at the end of the game. Like I said, I hope Bruce was just showing the flag for a friend, otherwise, he is just delusional - Which I'm not ruling out.

I get the impression from reading these, and this is all just my opinion, that Bruce doesn't really think there was anything wrong with his performance last year. He seems to give excuses (4-3 defense, unblockable defensive plays) for his performance. Or, he says that some of the passing game is really the running game. Really? I get the impression he thinks we are just too dumb to understand all this, or too dumb to see through all his B.S.

It seems to me that he does not see any failure running the ball last year, even though he said it, and he is not really with the program. Kind of like he is being forced to address the running game, and he is doing it reluctantly. I just don't think he believes in what he is being told to do. Does anyone else feel this way, or am I putting a negative slant on what I'm reading because I already don't like the guy (Professionally).

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I want to throw tomatoes at this guy

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on May 20, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Arians is a hack…

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on May 24, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

You hit the nail on the head

Your assessment seems dead on to me. In fact, after the numbers the offense put up last year, he must be frustrated that he gets nothing but hate from many fans and possibly the FO, while Coach LeBeau is beloved by all. Many people, including certain people that post on this site, realize the D had some issues last year and cost us dome games. It does not seem to require too much of a leap in logic to guess that BA must feel like the heat should go to the D rather than the O, but he can’t say that, so he gives us the BS answers. I think he really wants to say something along the lines of “our offense rocked, we don’t need to run the ball more, we can score at will, and if the D hadn’t choked in multiple games, we would have been in the playoffs. Shit, the d-backs sucked and none of those guys got canned, so WTF is up with all these complaints?” I’m not saying I agree with him, I’m just trying to get in his head and make sense of his comments. To be clear, I am not a fan of BA for many reasons, chief among them because he does believe that a Full Back is necessary.

I'm your huckleberry

by CLK47 on May 20, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I see what you're saying.

But, if bruce ever thought

we can score at will

He was delusional.

by WyoFan on May 20, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Change that to

move the ball between the 20’s at will and we’re good.

If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.

by SNW on May 20, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or more accurately

Move the ball between the 20s at will unless it’s the 4th quarter and we’re trying to hold on to a lead.

Not disputing the point that the defense declined a hell of a lot more than the offense in ’09 when compared to ’08, just saying that “mistakes were made” all around.

by TheSpatulaMessiah on May 20, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s like the idiot that married your sister.

Fantastic. I despise Bruce Arians and think if we had a competent OC we would be Super Bowl bound this year.

by TheCincinnatiConqueror on May 20, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Bruce......

How does that saying go? “Better to be thought of an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
This guy is just a flat out dip shit!

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
~Thomas Jefferson

by Cdsumm on May 20, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Like Noll once said, when fans criticize individual bits of strategy, what they’re really saying is “why don’t you win?” Find a way to do it, guys.

Seriously, I agree with the principle that running effectively is more important than number of attempts. We’ll just have to see whether BA can actually make it happen, since it’s been a weakness for some time during his reign.

As far as this bit goes…

From what I read, I got the impression that ol’ Bruce really doesn’t agree that his run game sucked last year. Oh, I get it, the receivers were the running backs, because in his mind, a short pass is really a run. It’s all so clear now.

    “Take the Super Bowl for example. There were seven catches or six catches Santonio [Holmes] had that were running plays when [there were] safeties blitz that are unblockable, and you have runs called. So it’s not a ‘number’ of runs because we threw the ball out there and got a bunch of yards. ‘Oh, that’s a good pass.’ No, that was a running play. That happens quite often. And what we do, we take some short screen stuff and treat that as [part of the] running game.”

No, that wasn’t clear at all. Sorry.

I was confused by that quote in the first article too. The second one basically paraphrases and says that he’s saying that there are lots of called runs that get changed into passes at the LOS after they see how the defense is lining up.

by TheSpatulaMessiah on May 20, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

This was the relivant stuff.
we take some short screen stuff and treat that as [part of the] running game."

the rest was kind of an illistration, a fun little example if you will, of your idiot brother-in-law openig his mouth.

by WyoFan on May 20, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if they "could" run against a D in a run alinement

would they still pass? I remember a day, heck a decade the Steelers did not care if you knew they were going to run it or not and they still ate up clock at will.

If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.

by SNW on May 20, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also lost in the playoffs.

Cowher could run the ball all day, but he didn’t win a Super Bowl until he had a QB that could put up some points on the Colts.

Just running the ball down people’s throats doesn’t work. Even when you have Jerome Bettis and Kordel Stewart you don’t win a Super Bowl. But for some reason a crappy O-line and a pass heavy offense did just that in 2008. The defenses were awesome for both, but one continually failed to get it done, the other pulled it off.

I don’t want a pass happy offense, I want a balanced offense that can run out the clock when we have a lead. But I also remember that only 2 of our 6 Super Bowl wins featured a really good running performance and that of the 6 MVP’s 3 were WR, 2 were QB and 1 was a RB.

Running all day is great, but putting up solid rushing numbers and a better aerial attack has served the Steelers better.

by Phantaskippy on May 20, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

excatly

its not how many times you run the ball, but how effectively you run the ball

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by WVPiratesfan on May 20, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this statement in general

Its not how many times you have children, Its how effectively you have them.

Its not how many times you rob a bank, its how effectively you rob them.

Its not how many joints you smoke, its how effectively you smoke them.

Its not how many girls you rape, its how effectively you rape them. see big ben

by Mechem on May 21, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

booooooooooooooooooo

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 21, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fortunately my sister's husband is no idiot

However, I agree that Arians never seems to publicly acknowledge the glaring issues. Though drafting Pouncey is a bit of an admittance, wouldn’t you say?

"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.

by count'em_six on May 20, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Would love to know exactly what went on in the war room

I’d bet Arians had nothing to do with drafting Pouncey.

"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge

by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

come to think of it

How much input do the coordinators really have? Rooney wants to get back to running..and so it was written.

"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.

by count'em_six on May 20, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can hear the Colbert-Arians phone call now

Bruce: “Whaddya mean we’re drafting a lineman? Can he play TE? Nothing’s wrong with the current line dammit. Now I’ve told y’all Willie Colon is the best there is, and if you’d just listen to me about this LeCharles Bentley fellow… Who would I pick? Nate Byham: tight end from right here in our own back yard, he’s a guy you’d spend the 18th overall pick on. Mark my words, with the 6-tight end set as our signature offense we will unleash a hell upon this NFL the likes of which has never been seen. Screw the Quarterback position-5 linemen 6 tight ends all the way baby! Kevin? Kevin? Dammit all! >Hangs up and dials again< Hello Mr. Davis? It’s Bruce and boy have I got a helluva proposition for you.”

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by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on May 20, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arians a Douche.............

Art Rooney did not say the Steelers needed to run the ball more; he said they needed to run it more effectively. Coach Mike Tomlin acknowledged as much later, and Tuesday, Arians agreed in his first interview since the end of the season.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10140/1059455-66.stm#ixzz0oVlvGkWp

     

         Effective running? Not creative short passing? Passing is just that, passing. And running is that, running. If I pass a ball ten yards down the field, its caught, and my reciever falls, its still 10 yards. If I hand the ball to a horse and he rumbles for four, smashes a lid and knees for one more, thats 35 yards. How you ask? (Punishment you bitch ass NFC west MoFo, punishment). Those pounding knees take a toll.

(It pays off when the other team tire you fools)

        Steelers Football.

        I believe Mr. Arians is living in a dream world as tho he created this team. AHHEM…… Anyone remember Ken Wisenhunt? On Jan. 27, 2007 Arians became the Off. Coord. of this(his) team, or the remnance of Kennys boys. KW won two rings IMO, Arians has won 0. Just because his lucky ass is on the sideline means nothing to me……..He is a schmuck.

GOOOOOSFRAAAAAAABBA!!!!!!

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-- Jack Lambert --

by Steeleraero on May 20, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been watching a lot of A-Team trailors lately.....;.

You “FOOLS”!!!! LOL, totally not how I speak or sound…LOL
But GOOOOSFRAAAABA!!!!!! Bueno!

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler."

-- Jack Lambert --

by Steeleraero on May 20, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubtful

I seriously doubt that they let Arians have a great deal of say in the draft board this year. He is gone after this season. No question. Ben no longer has the weight to protect him. We may be good again in 2011.

by Clubber Lang on May 24, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a bad feeling

We will see another absurd play calling year by Arians who is on the way out. Isn’t this the last year on his contract?

The future is not what it used to be.

by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

AMF

"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge

by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Animated Mother Fuc….?

The future is not what it used to be.

by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Close

Adios Martha Focker

"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge

by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh

The future is not what it used to be.

by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnny

how do you do the block quote thing on here?

i am sure it is simple but i can’t figure it out.

thanks in advance for your help

"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert

by WARDANE33 on May 20, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every done any HTML or coding? You need to put the text you want inside of “blockquote” tags. So i would do something like this:

<blockquote*>Johnny_S rocks!</blockquote*>

But leave out the *s

The future is not what it used to be.

by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

never have, just basic pc skills

let me try this

Johnny_S rocks!

"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert

by WARDANE33 on May 20, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like you did two block quotes
Johnny_S rocks!

The future is not what it used to be.

by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's ssaying you rock the box..... doh!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 20, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

one more try
ARN ROCKS THE BOX

TWSS

"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert

by WARDANE33 on May 20, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

FAIL

I can’t even imagine how badly I’d fail at that. I’ll just stick with the traditional "" .. .. .. ""

"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge

by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

chewie

i’m ofer thursday

"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert

by WARDANE33 on May 20, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

copy the phrase and paste.

then highlight it and click the "

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 20, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you do a block quote and then "your message" below the block?

"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert

by WARDANE33 on May 20, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

see above

do that and then type outside the quotes

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 20, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

do that and then type outside the quotes

how’s that?

"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert

by WARDANE33 on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck me

"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert

by WARDANE33 on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck me

Nice

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
~Thomas Jefferson

by Cdsumm on May 20, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

FML???

lol!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on May 24, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 21, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

rrrrrr
do that and then type outside the quotes

now i’m done

"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert

by WARDANE33 on May 20, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

you did it

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 20, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

win

The future is not what it used to be.

by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus I hope so!

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
~Thomas Jefferson

by Cdsumm on May 20, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The future is not what it used to be.

by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where is George Carlin?

"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge

by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 feet lower than us

I’d assume

too soon?

The future is not what it used to be.

by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he may be much lower than that!

"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge

by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

doh!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 20, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's saving me a seat

"I don't know if I've got the vocabulary to explain that family. Art, the Chief, Dan, they reek of class, they're fair, they're giving, they're genuine, they're stern and the reputation they have established, that organization, to be that consistent all these years, at the end of the day it speaks to the top, it speaks to how the Rooney's carry themselves, and the things they have done." - Merril Hoge

by chewiesteeler on May 20, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are no seats there

just hot rocks

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you are allowed to sit down there…

The future is not what it used to be.

by John Stephens on May 20, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No but partying is allowed

With Morrison, Dean, etc., no original thoughts……Damn!

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler."

-- Jack Lambert --

by Steeleraero on May 20, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its hard to party when you're in darkness and intense heat

no beer and no instruments, just peaple screaming and biting each other.

Sorry for the buzz kill. :)

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 21, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mosh Pit?

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on May 21, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

you beat me.

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on May 21, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

doh!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 24, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Davy Jonses' Locker!!!

LMFAO!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on May 24, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure that is the case

"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.

by count'em_six on May 20, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure how to execute the gray quote thingy on here but

this has to be the best thing i’ve read on here

“This little gem made me choke on my Copenhagen”

"The Steelers drafted guys who were bigger, stronger and faster than I, but they never found one who could take my job away from me." Jack Lambert

by WARDANE33 on May 20, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Excuses

“Excuses are the tools of incompetence that build monuments of nothing and bridges that lead to no where”.

This is what concerns me about Bruce, always an excuse. This is unacceptable.

by 72Steeler on May 20, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice quote

Who said that?

I'm your huckleberry

by CLK47 on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

A homeless guy

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL.

 that is so wrong. funny, but wong nonetheless.

I'm your huckleberry

by CLK47 on May 20, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry...

I heard that in my head and laughed so I thought I’d share. That’s my excu…… never mind

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on May 20, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No need for an apology

as I said, I was laughing pretty hard.

I'm your huckleberry

by CLK47 on May 20, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot the last part

“Those that specialize in them are seldom good at anything else” I hope BA realizes his job is on the line if we don’t get the running game going this year.

by 72Steeler on May 20, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No excuse

Sounds to me likehe admitted there was trouble in short yardage, goal line , four minute, and any other obvious run situations so calling more running plays would have been playing to our own weakness;. I won’t defend the guy outright, but I think the line talent and line coach, have been the issue here for couple years, 08 speaks for itself, and last year the list of things wrong with the Steelers went way beyond the run game. It was likely a mistake to give evryone a free pass after the super bowl but they’ve now addressed both the talent and the coaching, what else do you want? What do you want him to say? " My friend Larry is a shitty coach and so am I, oh yeah, and most of the players on the o-line, the only ones under contract with the Steelers the past few years, they all suck too, and probably wouldnt start on several other teams in the league. We all love to rave about Colberts successes in the draft, but he hasnt hit on anything more than a project lineman for years to the point that we’ve had an entire project o-line. If the team becomes capable of running better, and still doesnt, then, i’ll pile on with you guys, till then i’ll just be glad noone is asking me to explain or defend the steelers offense.

by Micculus on May 20, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Well spoken

Unlike B.A…Baracus, That Mo Fo is afraid to run…..Fu(

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by Steeleraero on May 20, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry didn't take........Well spoken

Unlike B.A…Baracus, screw a fear of flying, That Mo Fo is afraid to run…..Fu(K him. A running game? Really? Thats why BB set all those franchise “PASSING” records. What a douche. Does he know Steelers Football? He ran like Favre commits to a season. Foor Gods sake. BA is full of BS. This tool.
GOOOOOOSFRAAAABA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ll relax…..eventually.

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by Steeleraero on May 20, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Forgive typos

I’m seeing red and cant self edit!!!! FU(K BA!!!!!
P.S. I have some issues.

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by Steeleraero on May 20, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Bruce

1. You run to make the other team’s safeties blitz. Then, when the safeties do blitz, you pass.

2. You make them bring an extra safety into the box by running well against a front 7 to begin with.

3. You run on 3rd and 1, you pass on 3rd and 11. Not the other way around.

by 36chambers on May 20, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

ha

+1 to #3

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by kick him in the head on May 21, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It takes courage...

to defend BA in this blog, and I tip my hat off to you. Tough to argue against your post, as much as we may dislike the guy. He had a not-insignificant hand in getting One for the Thumb. It’s not the first toughtful post I’ve seen that pinpoints in detail the real problems on offense last year. It is simplistic to focus solely on impressions, and the ESPN-type knee-jerk reaction to blame play calling and “going away from the run”. You dance with who brung ya, and if that year, it doesn’t happen to be the run, then you make the most of it. However, you will agree with me that BA could use a lesson on messaging or spin-doctoring, or two.

by Flying Polamalus on May 21, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look I’m not here to say Arians is a good co-ordinator. The man runs a good passing game. That is his strength. You want some Arians bashing? Our offensive production weighted by opponent strength has dropped significantly since Arians took over. Even over the abysmal 2006. He needs to do better. But even in 2006 the offense was declining. The great O-Line was getting old and our running game dropped off in short yardage. Rebuilding the O-line and dedicating our team to being able to run the clock out better would fix this offense’s problems.

Seriously. We need to be able to pick up short yardage and then run out the clock better. We haven’t been a great short yardage team since Bettis and his O-Line of doom. We need the O-line and a RB to pick up the yards. I think the O-line is getting there and the RB’s are on the roster. Let’s see what happens this year with that. I think if we can’t pull it off this year Arians is gone, but up till now he has managed to take lemons and make lemon juice out of the short yardage game. Let’s see if he can do something if we give him a bit more.

I don’t have a problem with a pass first offense. When you have Jerome Bettis in his prime and Kordel Stewart at QB you invest in O-line and run the ball. When you have Ben Roethlisberger and Willie Parker you invest in WR’s and throw the ball. Now we have Mendenhall, some backups that show promise, BL or DD at QB and we lost Holmes. Let’s see how our offense works this season.

The point I was making in my post was that Arians is getting trashed like he single-handedly ruined our season and cost us games. The problem is there is little correlation between offensive production and wins from last year. The Steelers win on defense and enough offense to get it done.

For me this is Arians year to show what he can do. Lot’s of pressure and a lot of things going against this offense. If he can put up decent points (20 & up) without Ben then I say he’s not the loser we think he is. Look at our offense, really. O-Line still in the bottom half of the league, WR core has questions, and that’s about it. QB is either Leftwich or a guy with one start and no wins. Any team facing a year with this offense would be expected to suck. Really if you swap our offensive players over to the Browns, Bengals or Ravens we’d be laughing at them. Mendenhall is our best weapon at this point with Ward injured.

If by the end of the year we get our run game problems drastically reduced (not expecting 2004, just a lot better than 2009) make the playoffs winning two without Ben I think Arians keeps his job. I won’t have a problem with it either.

by Phantaskippy on May 21, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree that BA is on the leash. He might have been forgiven during the Ravens game when he had little time with DD but now he knows that back up will have to play and he has 6 months to prep him and plan for him. Week 6 is the Browns. He needs to make sure that the heads aren’t hanging in shame for that game.

by StinkBomb on May 29, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many OC’s have won a Super Bowl with a craptastic O-Line and no running game by putting 27 points on the board?

I don’t know, but Arians didn’t either. The defense scored 7 of those points (then turned around and gave up the lead late in the game). But, just like in 2008 the Steelers won it all as a team, in 2009, they lost many games and missed the playoffs as a team.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 21, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

But, just like in 2008 the Steelers won it all as a team, in 2009, they lost many games and missed the playoffs as a team.

Agreed.

The offense didn’t help the defense, the defense didn’t help the offense late in games, and the kick coverage screwed everyone. I understand why we dislike Arians, but I dislike the offensive play calling of a lot of successful teams, chief among them the Colts, I hate their play calling.

But not every team gets Sean Peyton calling the plays. There aren’t a lot of talented OC’s running around begging for jobs, the best ones are hard to get, and they often become HC’s before long. It’s easy to say Arians is the worst ever and anyone off the street could outdo him, but it just isn’t true. He needs to step it up this year. He needs to help the defense, he needs to get some help from the defense and special teams too.

The biggest lesson from last season is turnovers. We force even one turnover we win. even when we lost the TO battle we won if we forced even a single turnover from the opposing team. We addressed our ST and Defense a lot this off-season, both of those should be better. The offense (on paper) is significantly worse. It should be less productive than last year.

by Phantaskippy on May 21, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOrse?

It’s not about beating the horse, though I would like too. This job has always been too big for him. He is an excellent QB coach. He is an awful offensive coordinator. You don’t take a team that has been drafting and traing roadgrading linemen for a decade and ask them to use the Bronco’s blocking schemes. He has never had a clue. He covers his ass with excuses when he fails, and he usually fails.

by Clubber Lang on May 24, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

CYA

That was why Larry Z left at the conclusion of the season. Shit roles downhill

by steelerstyle on May 24, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Though i would like nothing better than seeing Arian's run out of town by a lynch mob

I concede that the 08 & 09 talent better suited a pass oriented offense.
I’ll even concede that Arians develops has above average passing intellect or whatever label you like there. But I let the results and lack of points speak for themselves.

I do wonder if there is any rational explanation for why Heath at times disappears. After all it is first downs that grind out the clock.

by steelerstyle on May 24, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

This would be wierd if it was true
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by WVPiratesfan on May 21, 2010 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Larry Z

I hate Arians, etc etc etc, but I really think Zierlein got the short end of the stick. Our offensive line was at least average last year, and we did it with a bunch of scrubs. They weren’t outstanding in pass protection, but they were solid, despite all the coverage/Ben sacks. They also weren’t bad in the running game – they just never committed to sticking with it. The worst game for our OL – the Cleveland game – involved Cleveland sending more guys than we could block on seemingly every play.

Starks and Colon really blossomed this past year, and with a talented (and athletic) new IOL, I think we could have had a pretty good line under coach Z. Hopefully the transition goes smoothly, but it seems like an unnecessary stirring of the pot.

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by BadMaafala on May 21, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

BTW

If our red zone did not suck so bad, the super bowl would have been a blowout. 6 cracks at first and goal and we settle for a FG. I have always felt that red zone success is largely about play calling.
The whole super bowl year we won games in the no-huddle, aka no-arians.
The guy is lacking and the excuses have re-ignited my feelings.

by scottd7 on May 23, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  


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