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Bungles have no class - Hard Knocks Replay


I have been watching the Hard Knocks re-runs the past week.  It was really interesting watching how the different organizations handle issues.  As much as I hate to say it, the Cowboys were somewhat classy.   Jerry Jones met with most of the players being cut.  Raven's coach Brian Billiick even met one on one with each of the players. 

On the other end was the Bengals. They notified players that they were cut by telephone or meetings with low level personnel.  One guy who was being cut, walked by Marvin Lewis, un aware that he was being cut.  Marvin did not have the spine to tell him.  Mike Brown did not even have the class to meet with the players. 

 

I am sure that the Steelers show more class when they release a player, rookie or vet. 

Poll
Which sports team has the least amount of class?
Bengals
36 votes
Browns
4 votes
Raiders
21 votes
Yankees
4 votes
Cleveland Cavs
4 votes
Washington Redskins
4 votes
Red Wings
0 votes
Flyers
5 votes
Washington Capitals
2 votes
New York Rangers
1 votes
New Jersey Devils
0 votes
Pittsburgh Pirates
5 votes
Any other Team from New York
8 votes

94 votes | Poll has closed

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When you are consistently a franchise that finishes with a losing record, would you have the balls to tell those players that they are not good enough to even make THAT team?

"However, the true greatness of the Ravens’ line lies in their malevolence, led by right end Haloti Ngata. Simply put, Ngata can’t be blocked by mere mortals. He is not a product of the human species. He is really a creation of a building contractor, made of cinderblocks and some type of flesh-like covering. Throw in Kelly Gregg at nose tackle and behemoth rookie Terrence Cody and you have something truly frightening."

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 11, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

How 'bout getting cut by the Lions

and have them go 0-16. You get picked up by the Steelers and go to the Super Bowl. O’h that actually happenned.

I should have included the Lions.

by Steeler Nation VA on Jul 11, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because a bad team cuts you doesn’t mean that they don’t have class. Players have to be cut in the NFL, just part of the system, but when you handle it like Cinci did in that show then I agree that it was a little classless.

"However, the true greatness of the Ravens’ line lies in their malevolence, led by right end Haloti Ngata. Simply put, Ngata can’t be blocked by mere mortals. He is not a product of the human species. He is really a creation of a building contractor, made of cinderblocks and some type of flesh-like covering. Throw in Kelly Gregg at nose tackle and behemoth rookie Terrence Cody and you have something truly frightening."

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 11, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

who did we pick up from the Lions?

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 12, 2010 1:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ok it was Shaun McDonald

but he was on IR that year. and we signed him last offseason.

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 12, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was McHugh

He got cut by Matt Milan and starts at FB in the Super Bowl. I think that the Lions are getting better, but for decades they had no class except for Barry Sanders who was a special player in a pile of sh*t..

by Steeler Nation VA on Jul 12, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

:)

diamond in the rough, indeed, the lions are getting better because mat milan is no longer there, that instantly increased the value of the franchise over night

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 12, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i was wrong.

Matt Millen is terrible. did you hear his apology during the draft this year?

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 12, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe I'm the first to say this

but Barry Sanders was a f@#$%ng legend. The single most exciting player I ever watched.

Imagine, just for a second, the Steelers had drafted him.

Now open your eyes.

My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.

by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 13, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

You may be the first one on this poast

but you’re not the first to say it. He juked Rod Woodson out of his ACL.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 13, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

They got "follower balls"

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 13, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got "bowling" balls...

but their about the size of “Moth” balls lol!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 13, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you could have taken a better slant with this article.

by klompus on Jul 11, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I felt bad for Runnels, when I saw it

But do you really think Tomlin and Rooney would meet with the 4th FB on the depth chart getting cut?

MwWsA

by raclark11986 on Jul 12, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

why all the new york hate?
how are the yanks classless? or the rangers or Giants? how about the owner who moved his team from Clevedump to Baltimore? or a team who consistently has some of the lowest payroll in baseball and fielding garbage teams on the field? (Royals) NY for a choice is a bit of hate. r u from Boston?

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 12, 2010 1:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I hate NY teams, OK?

I have since I was a kid and went to camp with a bunch of kids from NY. I have always felt that Steinbrenner was a pompous ass. His son is running a better team now, from what I understand.

I am not from Boston. I am from Pittsburgh. Should have included the Pats.

I could have listed another 2 dozen teams, I tried to list the obvious teams. If I left out your choice add it as a comment.

by Steeler Nation VA on Jul 12, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

so much hate... drinking that hatorade man too much

Have you been to NY? There is much more than Manhattan.
You were talking about classless organizations though. What are examples of classless acts these NY teams are doing.
I would think the Mets(my favorite team by the way) would be the one with the least class considering the recent debacle of Minay last year and Bernazard ripping his shirt and wanting to fight a player. Also firing Randolph at 3am.
And the 80’s i’m not going to go there with their lack of class.
Now classless team of all time would be LA Clippers

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK - NY has too many people

That is why I do not have any desire to go there.

Lets look at the teams.
Mets – You said they lack class
Yankees – $$$$$$ solves all problems
Rangers – incompetent management
Islanders – No management
Devils – Good team, just do not like playing them, Best Goalie in hockey
Knicks – Makes the Isladers and Rangers look good
Nets – New management, the jury is still out, but past management sucked
Giants – Class organization
Jets – limited class – letting Faneca go as late as they did. Hiring Mangini to start with.

Ok. Do you agree with my assessment of the NY teams

by Steeler Nation VA on Jul 12, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i do not

“Mets – You said they lack class
 Yankees – $$$$$$ solves all problems
 Rangers – incompetent management
 Islanders – No management
 Devils – Good team, just do not like playing them, Best Goalie in hockey
 Knicks – Makes the Isladers and Rangers look good
 Nets – New management, the jury is still out, but past management sucked
 Giants – Class organization
 Jets – limited class – letting Faneca go as late as they did. Hiring Mangini to start with.”
I Did the Met evaluation
yankees- so what if money solves the problem. they are doing a great job in putting a great product on the field. I want to see the Royals or Pirates spend an extra 15 million for better players. maybe they will be over .500
Rangers- I M how? one of the original franchises in the NHL. great rabid fanbase. very embracing of its players
Islanders- unfortunately play in a dump (NassauCountyColisseum)
management wants to move the team because they know their fanbase has dwindled in the NY area. they would like to stay in NY if given a new arena. amazing this team won 4 cups in a row.
Devils- a very good team with multiple cups. this organization shows class.
Knicks- have class. they are getting back to their winning ways. maybe in a couple of years.
Nets- past season was terrible. so what do they do? have a fan draw up a play for you. new owner seems like a rogue character.
Giants- up there with the Steelers in the class heavens
Jets- oh man an ambitious owner and front office. so what if they got rid of Faneca,
I wouldn’t say nY teams are classless. they have unforgivin fans who want to win all the time.

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 12, 2010 3:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lets take a look at the Rangers and Jets and Knicks

Rangers have great fans, no doubt about it. Most if not all of their personnel moves in the last ~10 years have sucked.

Jets -management tells Reves that he is under paid and then not negotiate with him. I know the CBA (30% rule) restricts what they can do. If they knew that they were going to release Faneca, why hold on to him so long and limit his options. When we let Joey Porter go, we let him go early so that he had the best opportunity. Did the same with Foote last year. Partially because of how he was treated, he came back home.

Knicks – Are you going to defend the class of Isiah Thomas? Ok they are a historic franchise, but so are the Pirates and they suck and have no class. The owner just pockets the revenue sharing money and won’t put a major league roster on the field.

I agree that NY fas have no patience.

by Steeler Nation VA on Jul 12, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth...

I’m very patient. But I can only speak for myself.

"I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone."
-Kurt Vonnegut

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 12, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

did Faneca have another job after he was cut? yeah old pittsburgh west. jets are negotiating with Revis. same way we are negotiating with Woodley. bad personnel move doe not make a classless organization.
now the knicks, its been a circus. thomas should not come back

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 12, 2010 4:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

same way we are negotiating with Woodley

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5374264

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 12, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

"I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone."
-Kurt Vonnegut

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 12, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colts aren't negotiating with Manning either

I doubt either is going to hit the free agent market. My guess there will be some type of franchise tag in the new CBA. But that they will not be able to tag the players who were skrewed with the RFA rule this year.

I know the Steelers do not usually negotiate during the season. But they probably will have talks with him during training camp that if the CBA looks like “A” then we will offer “X” if “B” then the offer is “Y” and so forth.

The FO is not dumb. Nor are the Colts FO.

by Steeler Nation VA on Jul 12, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt either is going to hit the free agent market

My thoughts exactly

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 13, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

like without woodley

would be like ice with no cream
peanut butter without jelly

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 12, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

lamb without tuna fish

(boom, name that reference)

by shleeve on Jul 13, 2010 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that was one of the great Skakespearian actors of our day...

Rob Schneider in Big Daddy. I wipe my own ass.

"I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone."
-Kurt Vonnegut

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 13, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

ding ding ding…………you win a super cookie

by shleeve on Jul 13, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

with the frosting yay!!!

and the pickels, and the pickels, and the pickels!!! lol!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 13, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell no you dont get frosting

or damn pickles, or any other thing Dane Cook suggests

by shleeve on Jul 13, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

d'oh

awww maaaaan! lol!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 14, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

PCI you forgot to mention...

yin with no yang!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 13, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

ham no burger

pu no nanny

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 13, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 13, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

bert with no ernie

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 13, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flacco with no checkdowns

wattup slash

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 13, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha!!!

what up PCI? I’m good lounging same old shit just a different toliet! lol…how have you been bro?

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 14, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

nuttin much man

working like a mad man

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 14, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha i hear ya hommie!!!

it’s been the same craziness around my neck of the woods as well brudda!!! dude what are you doing this weekend?

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 14, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I have since I was a kid and went to camp with a bunch of kids from NY."

that reminds me of an episode of South Park.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jul 12, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It sounds like a nightmare

NYC is dog eat dog, every man for himself. When those kids interact with normal suburban kids, it’s like wolves among sheep.

I think that was the episode with the Brown Sound.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jul 13, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was born in the city

and lived in NY for 12 years. but yeah some of us do have wolf attributes

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 13, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate 'em all they stink!!!

lol…

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 12, 2010 6:59 AM EDT reply actions  

stank**

Without me, youre only you

by GotWoodley? on Jul 12, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops

“STANK” lol!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 13, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, fleeting class

I was surprised not to see the 49ers listed as a choice. Maybe they’re just getting better since Singletary, but I seem to remember nary a year passed after Eddie DeBartolo’s departure when San Fran didn’t show their lack of class to players, this after a couple of decades of being among the classiest organizations.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness, but [Thank God] I am not a government official" Francis Wolcott in "Deadwood", Season 2

by Flying Polamalus on Jul 12, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Jeff Garcia

sweet username, by the way

My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.

by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 13, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well here is more proof of them having no class

Quote from Ochocinco regarding your team.

"Man, I haven’t seen this many girls on a football field since the last time we played the Steelers."

"However, the true greatness of the Ravens’ line lies in their malevolence, led by right end Haloti Ngata. Simply put, Ngata can’t be blocked by mere mortals. He is not a product of the human species. He is really a creation of a building contractor, made of cinderblocks and some type of flesh-like covering. Throw in Kelly Gregg at nose tackle and behemoth rookie Terrence Cody and you have something truly frightening."

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 12, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

OchoStinko is garbage!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 12, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

he thought it was girls because he was blinded by the rings and had to turn away and look at his own cheerleaders… :)

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 12, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha!!!

+1 agreed Tann!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 12, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually

they did play against a bunch of girls. The Steeler’s powder puff team, and the Bungles barely beat them.

by shleeve on Jul 12, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Quote from Ochocinco regarding your team. "
Man, I haven’t seen this many girls on a football field since the last time we played the Steelers.

Notice he didn’t make fun of the ravens. That’s because no one cares about the ravens.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jul 12, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

There’s nothing wrong with being the second best team in the NFL.

I don’t think there’s been another team I’ve respected (as much as these Ravens) since those mid-to-late 80’s Bears teams. Well coached, well staffed, well executing, well prepared, hard hitting sons of bitches.

If I didn’t hate ‘em, I’d love ’em.

My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.

by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 13, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

How is the closet?

"However, the true greatness of the Ravens’ line lies in their malevolence, led by right end Haloti Ngata. Simply put, Ngata can’t be blocked by mere mortals. He is not a product of the human species. He is really a creation of a building contractor, made of cinderblocks and some type of flesh-like covering. Throw in Kelly Gregg at nose tackle and behemoth rookie Terrence Cody and you have something truly frightening."

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 13, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

you should know

I’ve never been to the Ravens site before.

My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.

by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 13, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He made fun of the Ravens about a month ago. But all he did was say that his defense is better than our defense, he never called us girls. Should tell you something about your team full of pussies.

"However, the true greatness of the Ravens’ line lies in their malevolence, led by right end Haloti Ngata. Simply put, Ngata can’t be blocked by mere mortals. He is not a product of the human species. He is really a creation of a building contractor, made of cinderblocks and some type of flesh-like covering. Throw in Kelly Gregg at nose tackle and behemoth rookie Terrence Cody and you have something truly frightening."

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 13, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

woah now!!!

MaLoR why are you on edge?

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 13, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm...

no wonder why it smells like copper!!! lol!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 13, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

My tee time got rained out today.

"However, the true greatness of the Ravens’ line lies in their malevolence, led by right end Haloti Ngata. Simply put, Ngata can’t be blocked by mere mortals. He is not a product of the human species. He is really a creation of a building contractor, made of cinderblocks and some type of flesh-like covering. Throw in Kelly Gregg at nose tackle and behemoth rookie Terrence Cody and you have something truly frightening."

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 13, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard crazy rain in the Northeast

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 13, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw a good bit of the hard knocks myself.

It’s interesting to see these old episodes and you can then google the players and find out what became of them.

I liked the feel of the Herm Edwards one.

On the Bengals one it’s kind of funny to see the 1000 mile stare on Laverneus Cole’s face while Lewis is screaming at the team. That guy with the giant butt making the cuts by phone and particularly busting into players rooms in the night to tell guys they’ve been waived is definitely not classy.

In the Cowboys one, it’s kind of unsettling how involved Jerry Jones is. I think the team would work better if the owner / manager stayed off the field more. Seems like that guy was involved in everything.

by Steely McSmash on Jul 12, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

and this is why both the CryBoys and the Bungals are both teams that need to doosh repaditly!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 12, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Ochostinko...

is actually a female himself and wears cups with socks stuffed in them to show off his manhood, the guy has to tape down his 34 dd’s as well…haven’t you ever noticed the lack of adam’s apple whenever he is talking…

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 12, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted Cavs

More cause the Lebron deal was still vivid in my head. Disowning him? Some fan burning his jersey? That dude made your shitty team. Without him, enjoy being in 2nd/3rd place again.

Cleveland ay….

Without me, youre only you

by GotWoodley? on Jul 12, 2010 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

first time I've vever felt bad for Cleveland

then I had a good laugh

My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.

by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 13, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"In Hoc Signo Vinces (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!!!") -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 14, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec status

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jul 14, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  


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