Top 12 Greatest Wins in Steelers' History (Non-Super Bowl) - #10: Steelers 23, Browns 7 (1964)
Onward we go through mary rose's countdown of the 12 greatest non-Super Bowl wins in Pittsburgh Steelers franchise history. This one I know holds a special place in the mind and hear of the author, as he elaborates on this epic upset in much greater detail in his upcoming book, From Black To Gold: The Pittsburgh Steelers. (Which by the way should be available for purchase by the BTSC community next week). -Michael Bean-
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This series will highlight my Top 12 Greatest Wins in Pittsburgh Steelers' history. I do not include Super Bowls, as they would eat up half the series! Please keep in mind that these wins are not necessarily the most important wins. If that were the case, then only the deepest playoff wins would be recounted. Sometimes "importance" is a factor, but not always. Sometimes the underdog factor comes into play and sometimes the comeback factor is the reason for a game being selected where it is. Sometimes it is just the way the game unfolded. In any case, this is just one person's opinion, so there is no right and wrong, just fun. Enjoy.
John Henry Johnson rushed for 6,803 yards in his illustrious career. By today's standards of inflated offense and 16-game schedules, that total does not register as high, but in fact, when John Henry hung up his cleats after the 1966 season, he was the fourth-leading rusher in NFL history. In addition, Johnson was as complete a back as there ever was. He was a ferocious blocker and had soft hands that made him an outstanding receiver. Johnson was a fullback in a halfback's body, which back a half century ago was the ultimate compliment to any running back.
Johnson played sparingly in the old AFL in 1966. The year before, he ran three times in one game before an injury basically ended his career. Thus, essentially, 1964 was the last of his 11 great years in the NFL. On October 10 of that year, with winds blowing off Lake Erie at 24 miles per hour on a cool fall Saturday night, John Henry left no doubt that someday he would be back in Ohio, in a small town named Canton.
As a nine-year-old boy whose father gently led me to become a passionate Steelers' fan from the early 1960s, I had never seen them on television. In our hometown of Youngstown, Ohio, we could only hear the radio voice of Joe Tucker. We were visiting my grandparents in Pittsburgh that October weekend and I got to see my team for the first time on Channel 11.
I was all fired up for my first Steelers' game on television on a Saturday night when I did not have to go to bed early. Though my dad would never want to hamper my enthusiasm, he also knew I was naive in not realizing how much of an underdog Pittsburgh was that night, especially in Cleveland, in front of 80,530 partisan fans. The Browns would go on to win the NFL Championship that year, while the Steelers were in their first year of a massive six-year decline.
I kept telling my dad that the Steelers were going to win. He kept walking that fine line between wanting to let me down easy without curbing my optimism. He had a painful look about him that I now know was simply for my sake. He knew how good the Browns were and just did not want his son to suffer a huge letdown. Dads are like that. For that reason alone, he badly wanted the Steelers somehow to find a way to win that game.
The Steelers took the opening kickoff and went on an unlikely 15-play drive, capped by a Mike Clark field goal. The Browns then went three-and-out. The Steelers got the ball again and Johnson started heating up. Though it was early, he could not be stopped. On second and nine from the Browns' 33-yard line, he busted right up the middle, ran a few guys over and then outran the Cleveland secondary into the end zone. The Browns went three-and-out again.
The Steelers got the ball for the third time. On their fifth play, John Henry swept left, ran over a few more guys, and sped past the secondary again for a 45-yard touchdown. The Browns went three-and-out, yet again. At that point, I asked my dad, "When are the Steelers supposed to start losing?" He looked pleasingly perplexed. The Steelers had three possessions and 16 points. The Browns had three possessions and failed to register a first down.
The Browns scored a touchdown in the middle of the second quarter. At the half, the score was 16-7, but dad could not help believing that the halftime adjustments would surely reverse the game's fortunes. The second half was completely different from the first, but not as dad had feared. Instead of bursting big gainers, Johnson ran for three, four and five yards at a clip, often running over people until they got tired of being run over.
On Pittsburgh's first possession of the second half, Johnson scored from five yards out, his third touchdown of the game. Meanwhile, the Steelers' defense completely shut the Browns down. Dick Hoak has an explanation as to how the Steelers' defense stymied the Browns' offense.
"Our linebackers were all hurt," said Hoak. "We couldn't even field enough of them. We came up with a gimmick defense that featured five defensive linemen and two linebackers. Our linemen played great. The Browns couldn't figure out how to attack us."
When all was said and done, John Henry Johnson became only the ninth player in NFL history to rush for 200 yards in a game (30 carries). In fairness to the incomparable Jimmy Brown, he was one of the eight who achieved that milestone before Johnson, and he did it four times. You have to realize how rare such an accomplishment was back in those days to appreciate fully the game Johnson played. Brown, meanwhile, was held to 59 yards on just eight carries. One of those carries was a 40-yard draw play, so he otherwise gained 19 yards on seven carries.
The final score was 23-7. The game was not nearly as close as the score might indicate. Pittsburgh amassed a ghastly 354 yards rushing (Clarence Peaks chipped in with 96) and simply ran all over Cleveland at will. Dad and I had one of those father-son experiences that money just cannot buy.
Following that game, the Steelers and Browns would go their separate ways, each in the opposite direction. There would not be much for Steelers' fans to cheer about for the rest of 1964 and for the rest of the decade. But on that one glorious Saturday night, for a nine-year old kid watching the Steelers for the first time ever with his dad, it could not get any better.
As for Johnson, he shared the stage with the great Jimmy Brown and the latter was clearly the undercard. In 1996, in Ohio, I finally met John Henry Johnson and asked him to sign my Steelers' helmet. I reminded him of that game and his grin was wide enough to connect a 32-year bridge between a little boy and his first football hero. Thanks again, John Henry. Welcome to Canton. And thank you dad for paving the way for this memory and so many more.
The Countdown
#12 - Steelers 20 - 49ers 17 (1984)
#11 - Steelers 20 - Colts 16 (1995)
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I must admit MaryRose...
you got major swag!!! where did you find this info out at??? Freaking amazing!!! +1
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
I know what I want for my birthday
This book! Great, great stuff.
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness, but [Thank God] I am not a government official" Francis Wolcott in "Deadwood", Season 2
by Flying Polamalus on Jul 15, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks for taking us back MR
Like you I watched that game that night and it was magical. First of all, the Saturday night game at Cleveland was unique to Pittsburgh and those times. Nobody else had that tradition. Kinda like Chiller Theater. But the game itself was usually disappointing given that the relationship between the Browns and Steelers in the 60’s was the exact opposite of what it has been in recent years. That is to say; Cleveland owned us. Victory was measured not in wins but in how respectable we could keep the losses. Winning would be great, but the Steelers dominated in every sense. It would not be an exaggeration to say that my Dad, older brother and I were giddy as Johnson and Peaks sliced through the Browns at will it seemed. Today it seems like a preview of coming events. And though it was pretty much a stand alone event at the time, the good feeling continues to resonate almost fifty years later.
by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Jul 15, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions
I remember that game.
I think I watched part of it before being sent off to bed (I would have been 11, and my family was strict on bedtimes.) I seem to recall my dad telling me about the Steelers nailing Jim Brown in the endzone for a safety. I definitely remember him telling me about John Henry Johnson’s play that night.
Thanks for getting me back to childhood and those years of cheering on Steeler teams who seemed to need the cheers.
(I only lost faith once - when some idiot coach traded Bill Nelson to the Browns in order to start Kent Nix at quarterback, I decided I’d had it. But then they hired a real coach and started trying to play football again, and it was all worth it. :) )
HA !
I was 14 when my dad and I watched that game. JHJ was on fire! Sweet…Sweet victory!
Was ‘nt there some smack talk before or after that game from JHJ about not being able to tie Jim Brown’s shoestrings or something of the like???? I could’nt believe when Bill Nelson ended up with the Browns either. Man was I pissed. Kent Who? lol! Thanks MaryRose. Please keep that time machine oiled upt!
Not surprised to see this here
Given that the author has talked before about the role of this game in shaping his Steelers fandom. The only question was where on the top 12 it would land.
Tim – Are you willing to spoil whether or not any games on your list come from before your time? There are a few old-timey ones that might contend for all-time status:
- vs. Giants, also 1964 (the Fallen Giant game – everything I know about that one comes from you)
- vs. Eagles, 1954 (“Finks, I think I can beat this guy deep”)
- vs. Giants, 1952 (63-7)
by TheSpatulaMessiah on Jul 15, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
I come into memory when the logo was released, 1962...
I can tell you that the 1964 Giants game is not on the list. It was not so much a great victory, but great for the peripheral reasons, e.g. Tittle, Big John Baker, Morris Berman…Nor is 54 Eagles game…It was tough to pin down 12, like everything like this, some of the “bubble games” are mad at me that they didn’t get in :)
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
Giants game
Is’nt that the game Baker knocked the crap out of the great YA TiTTLE? I saw that one too. I will never get that image of a very distressed Titttle out of my mind. I wore #78 in JR high football after the great John Baker! LOL!
by steelersrock08 on Jul 16, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, it is. maryrose wrote a post about the game, both its importance to the Steelers (revenge for 1963) and its importance in the history of sports photography. I think it’s been taken down, though. Maybe there’ll be something about that game in the new book.
by TheSpatulaMessiah on Jul 17, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
memories......
wow……how long til the season starts
Another Great Read MR. Thanks
Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Great Story
You’ve done it again MR. I feel like I was there with you and your dad. Simply amazing writing. I have goose bumps down my arms and tears in my eyes.
I was only about 1 so I was a far throw from being a Steelers (or Pirates – my first love) fan yet. JHJ was one of those icon’s that I have heard about and seen in news reels. (Kind of like Barry Foster or Bam Morris to some of the BTSC newbies) He may have been the earlier version of a mix of the Bus & Franco?
This was probably one of the Steelers greatest victories pre 1972. Can’t wait to read about the next ones. I’m sure I remember a lot of them and will be educated on others. One thing for certain is that I have been alive for some serious Steelers football! Can’t wait for Latrobe…Here We Go…(you know the rest)
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
Parker era
I’m way younger, so I really love talking/learning the history.
Here’s my understanding of the situation: In the days before the Steelers wisely separated coaching and scouting (and wisely hired Bill Nunn), the head coach basically shaped the team. Well, Buddy Parker (1957-1964), the Steelers’ most successful coach of this era, hated working with young players and preferred to build a team full of proven veterans. He frequently would, say, trade away his first seven draft picks. It worked to a degree, but the problem was that people got old. So the Steelers teams of that era are filled with players who joined up towards the end of their primes.
John Henry Johnson is one of the best examples. The Steelers got him late in a legendary career (‘61, maybe?), when he still had a few years left in him, to help with some strong-by-Steelers-standards seasons in 1962 and 1963. But he’s really one of those players where Dan Rooney will say things like “if we’d gotten him for more than a few years, we could’ve developed a habit of winning.” In an alternate universe where the Steelers noticed JHJ before he became a proven star, we might be comparing Harris and Bettis to him rather than the other way around.
by TheSpatulaMessiah on Jul 17, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s how we “passed” on Len Dawson and John Unitas…and had a 40 year wait until Bradshaw turned the corner.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
Unitas was a little different in that he was in fact drafted as a rookie, but the coach at the time (Kiesling) got it into his head that Unitas wasn’t smart enough to play in the NFL and could not be talked out of that belief.
by TheSpatulaMessiah on Jul 18, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
how is Walt Kiesling in the Hall of Fame
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today." Lou Holtz
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
by WVPiratesfan on Jul 19, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
You know, say what you will aboue Kies...
And there’s a lot of bad things one can say about him. But I will mention that he was a proud Pittsburgher who helped define what “Steelers football” was all about. Both with their first winning season in ‘42, which was Bill Dudley’s rookie year, and with his later coaching stint in the ’50s. Hard hitting defense, pounding the rock on offense, and just being tougher than the other team. Kiesling played a part in establishing that mentality forever.
by TheSpatulaMessiah on Jul 20, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think either my dad or my mom had been born when this game was played
so again another game I don’t remember, because i was even a thought yet
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today." Lou Holtz
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
I'm 38 so this game was a little before my time and way before I became a fan, but
I can relate because the best memories that you have are the ones watching a game as a little kid and cheering loudly when they win and even crying when they lose. Brings back some of my old memories.

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