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Ed Bouchette reports:

"The Steelers came to terms on a two-year contract with veteran tackle Flozell Adams this afternoon and he will arrive in training camp with them this weekend."

The o-line battle in training camp just got even more interesting.

Discuss.

(Props to naynaynay1, WVPiratesfan, and mojo88 for catching this first. If I could frontpage your posts, I would have.)

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I really can't believe this

Still don’t like him and hopes Foster beats him out for the tackle position

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 29, 2010 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Well....

I hope everyone is ready for some false starts

by stillerfn86 on Jul 29, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

for what it's worth

he has a hearing problem in his right ear, which many in Dallas speculate contributed to his false start problem. Moving him to the right side could help… reference: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/120207dnspocowlede.257cffc.html

I tend to agree with the PGH guys in liking the move, he’s a nasty run blocker, and his pass protection problems could be minimized by moving him to the right side. ( http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=9634 )

"You know how football is - if your mother's on the other team and you're coming out to play football, you're gonna hit momma" --L.C. Greenwood

by acrollet on Jul 29, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

There have been a lot of bitter pills to swallow this offseason

and this is just another awful pill to swallow. I remember posting about how dirty he was and what a bum he was and how I was glad he’s not a Steeler. This is probably the first time the Steelers signed a player that I genuinely don’t like. This will be interesting. Hopefully he can help us out and not kick anyone.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jul 29, 2010 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

on all points. I’m not sure I want the future of our O-line learning from Flozell.

by zacharai on Jul 29, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don’t want them learning from a 5 time pro bowler?

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by Johnny_S on Jul 30, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, i think he is talking about the penalty thing.

"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me

by Baltimore Warrior on Jul 30, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriosly though its better than having our QB getting crushed, its better than nothing

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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Jul 29, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 29, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow!

I’m not thrilled! Lets hope for the best.

by steelersrock08 on Jul 29, 2010 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

So what does say about the Paouncy negotiations?

by vin2k on Jul 29, 2010 7:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Absolutely nothing. Pouncey is a guard/center, Flozell is a tackle.

There are two theories on hitting a knuckleball - unfortunately, neither of them work.

by BobPurkey34 on Jul 29, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steelersdepot is saying theyare close and will sign Pouncey tomorrow

Somewhere in the 5 year 20-22 million dollar range with 10.5 million guaranteed
Making it the 6th year in a row with all draft picks signed before camp

We shall see…

by IndieSteelFan on Jul 29, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting oline

Adams, Kemo, Kegursky, Pouncy, Starks????

by vin2k on Jul 29, 2010 7:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Starting oline

Adams, Kemo, Legursky, Pouncy, Starks????

by vin2k on Jul 29, 2010 7:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I can’t see Lego beating out Hartwig for C

There are two theories on hitting a knuckleball - unfortunately, neither of them work.

by BobPurkey34 on Jul 29, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starks, Kemo, Hartwig, Pouncy, Adams

I think Adams will kick to RT, because his time LT has come and gone

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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 29, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by Johnny_S on Jul 30, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

If that happens...

It would be more to do with Hartwig’s shoulder situation.

"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 29, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would we move starks

from the left side, where he’s been more effective, to right tackle, for Flozell Adams, who was the worst Cowboys OL in terms of giving up sacks last season.

by syrsteelerfan on Jul 29, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 29, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flozell Adams?

I know we are looking at tough situation on the line, but Flozell Adams? If he is the solution we are screwed.

by lynchtf2000 on Jul 29, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

What’s wrong with it? We all know he’s dirty as hell on the field. So are a lot of other players. But just because someone is dirty doesn’t mean they can’t play. Who would they have signed instead that would have been an improvement?

I’m sure not saying I like the guy but if he can help and be an improvement to the OL, then I don’t see a problem.

There are two theories on hitting a knuckleball - unfortunately, neither of them work.

by BobPurkey34 on Jul 29, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have the dirtiest player in the NFL, just sayin..

Oh momma I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law
Lawman has put an end to my running and I'm so far from my home
Oh momma I can hear you a'crying you're so scared and all alone
Hangman is comin' down from the gallows and I don't have very
long

If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10

by EnglishSteelerGotBanned on Jul 29, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

and?

If he does anything stupid, suspend him.

There are two theories on hitting a knuckleball - unfortunately, neither of them work.

by BobPurkey34 on Jul 29, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

whos that?

Harrison? Ward?

Steelers rule, Phins are cool,
Pats and Jets blow donkeys

by closetphinphan on Jul 29, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ward

he was voted it by other players last season

Oh momma I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law
Lawman has put an end to my running and I'm so far from my home
Oh momma I can hear you a'crying you're so scared and all alone
Hangman is comin' down from the gallows and I don't have very
long

If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10

by EnglishSteelerGotBanned on Jul 29, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have the Dirtiest player in the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy-LQH8N6Ug&feature=related

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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 29, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather the young guys on the team take the slot.

At least there would be some upside and they would get experience. Adams will be here two year tops, and if he gets the starts, that just leaves the young guys another year behind the curve.

Nope, don’t like this at all.

by dawgs144 on Jul 29, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow........

….Im surprised at all the negativity. Its an upgrade at a position of need. He’s a 6 time pro-bowl tackle. For an O-lineman, hes not that old. I didnt expect this but I, for one, was glad to hear it!

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Pats and Jets blow donkeys

by closetphinphan on Jul 29, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

definitely an upgrade from what we were left with

I’m fine with it.

"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.

by count'em_six on Jul 29, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was a lot of discussion earlier

when the notion of Flo was first being discussed. A lot of concerns about dirty play vs Hines Ward style hard blocking. The off-sides issue was a major point then.

If our brass thinks this is the way to go, we need to respect that and Go with the Flo for now..

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 30, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like it, but I don't hate it.

His character and penalty proclivity are red flags. He’s a better run blocker than pass protector at this point in his career.

That said, I think he’s looked at as a RT only — enough speed to block edge rushers, but not on the left side, and a good run blocker. I’ll be interested in his attitude and performance in camp in the preseason.

Basically, I thought the wide-open competition would transform one of our many young, lump-of-coal tackle prospects into a diamond. I’m a touch disappointed that’s less likely (espeically for a vet with his issues), but having someone who can be a solid performer at the RT position and a backup swing tackle is important.

By the way, Tony Hills is gone.

by syrsteelerfan on Jul 29, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Ridiculous

Id rather let someone else have a chance to take the job and make it their own rather than having a has-been on our team.

Now the question, Starks or Adams for LT?

Without me, youre only you

by GotWoodley? on Jul 29, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

This, as said above, is an upgrade at a position of need...

My problem with it, besides the fact that Adams is a dirty, penalty machine, is that we didn’t even take a look at what we had in camp. Somewhat out of character for the organization…

But, if this is a move out of desperation, I will live with it and trust in our guys running the show. I hope this works out, but I have my doubts.

"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 29, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess

This is how we get a good look at what we have in camp. Tomlin loves competition.

As for Adams.. hate’emstank

by Varmint on Jul 29, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you're right...

But this does give them (our young guys) less of a chance to start, either way. Step your game up boys.

"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 30, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

very interesting. i'm really curious to see his contract terms to see if his spot is guaranteed

i think it’s the right move from a talent stand point but i wonder from a personality stand point

by t1mmy10 on Jul 29, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

no guaranteed money

so steelers are free to cut him if his personality isn’t meshing with the steelers system or he’s just too old.

it’s realistically only a one year contract for 2.5 mil this year, which is pretty reasonable. he’ll be cut next year cuz he won’t be worth the 5 mil as a 36 yo.

by t1mmy10 on Jul 31, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

will you still love it the first time he knocks ray-ray flat on his back? ;)

"You know how football is - if your mother's on the other team and you're coming out to play football, you're gonna hit momma" --L.C. Greenwood

by acrollet on Jul 30, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

that would be nice

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 30, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

He can do that by hisself, thank you. I’m pretty Sure Pryce/Ngata will take care of him before he reaches the LBs

"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me

by Baltimore Warrior on Jul 30, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh

how do we know for sure he will just be given the starting position. I’ll put money now that there will be a battle in camp.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 29, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

good

we only need him for 1 year

by celtsfan1 on Jul 30, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I have been against this

but being the optimist that I am, look at it this way: if he gets beat for a starter position (which will probably be at RT), the guy beating him for it (I’m rooting for Foster) will have earned his start. That would be my ideal scenario.

by Simonsen on Jul 30, 2010 4:38 AM EDT reply actions  

This is a great move

It eliminated a huge question mark going into practice. And that was do we have a guy that can competently play RT? Sure we had some possible options, but no definites. Adams provides us with a guy who has done very well at that spot, even with the penalties. I think he ends up starting week 1 and doing very well and holding the position.

Also, I think the Steelers did exactly what they did with Ryan Clark. His calling price was too high, so they pretended to not be interested and signed someone else. They let him sweat it out for a bit and then got him once the price was reasonable (I am assuming).

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by Johnny_S on Jul 30, 2010 7:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Is Flozell the Hotel better than the lowest offensive lineman on our depth chart?

I think the answer is yes. And there are so many question marks on the offensive line that picking him up seems to be a no-brainer.

Yes, there are also numerous question marks and red flags regarding Adams. But Job One during pre-season is to put together an offensive line that can control the line of scrimmage, support a short yardage running game, and protect the quarterback. We do NOT know if the younger players can do that. We DO know that Adams can still do at least SOME of that. And we also do NOT know who’s gonna get hurt in pre-season. This is a good move.

In the best of all worlds, the OL will jell without Adams and play lights out and the Steelers won’t need this former Cryboy. But that’s prolly not gonna happen, folks.

If there’s one hallmark of Coach Tomlin’s tenure, it is that he knows his team’s strengths and weaknesses and focuses in the offseason like a laser on fixing the weaknesses. This year, it’s ST, OL, and the running game. He’s gonna need Adams.

So let’s welcome our new best friend, Flozell. (sound of one hand clapping) It’s not how we feel about him now, but, rather, how we feel after the first four games, assuming our starting quarterback is still alive and there are a couple of wins by the time BB gets back.

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by Homer J. on Jul 30, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Haha...

I love your sig. Yea, great signing. At the very least it provides much needed depth. I think he will play LT wether he starts or not. He’s never played anywhere else. Also, its a great indication from the FO that it is committed to winning this year. Cuz if the O-line is good and they stay reasonably healthy otherwise……the sky’s the limit!

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Pats and Jets blow donkeys

by closetphinphan on Jul 30, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

He played some guard his rookie year...

But that was a long time ago.

"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 30, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the right move

Flozelle Adams isn’t guaranteed anything. Although he is probably as good or better than any offensive lineman that we have, he will have to earn his keep. There is no guaranteed money. He will get $2.5 million if he makes it onto the active roster. If he really shines he can earn $5 million next year. At this time of year there is not a better move we could have made. If he flops, he is dropped, and the Steelers lose nothing.

Dennis

by belvalle55 on Jul 30, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a great move

I hope you guys are as excited about it as I am!

"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me

by Baltimore Warrior on Jul 30, 2010 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Cowboys fan here

Flozell isn’t necessarily a complete dirtbag, he’s just all about protecting his quarterback. In the last year or two, age has caught up with him, so sometimes the only way he can prevent his quarterback from getting crushed is by tripping a guy up. There’s no malice involved.

As for the Justin Tuck situation last season, he claims he didn’t know the play was over, but who knows.

Is there any other Cowboys fan out there who will gladly take Tony Romo over Aaron Rodgers any day?

by Grady90 on Aug 1, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  


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