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Points of Contention: Camp Battles- HB

This offseason has been a whirlwind of ups and downs. Familiar faces returning home, new faces making a new home, and formerly bitter rivals making fresh starts. I do not remember an offseason which brought about as many question marks as this offseason has. We have changeover all over the field, and there are a few battles that I'll be keeping a close eye on (real close, from my home, 386 miles away). Let's take a look at a few.

 

Halfback #2 and #3: A Fatal Fourway


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Star-divide

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Tale of the Tape:

Mewelde Moore: 5'11"/ 209 lbs./ 28 years old. 7thyear as a pro, 3rd with the Steelers

Jonathan Dwyer: 5'11"/ 229 lbs./ 21 years old. Rookie, 6th round (188th overall)

Isaac Redman: 6'0"/ 230 lbs./ 25 years old. 2ndyear pro, both with Steelers (one active game, practice squad)

Stefan Logan: 5'6"/ 180 lbs./ 29 years old. 2ndyear (NFL) pro, both with Steelers

 

Past Player Roles:

Mewelde Moore, who was the first "Tomlin Guy" brought in from Minnesota shortly after Tomlin's hire, has played both supportive, and feature roles in our offense. Two seasons ago Mewelde filled in as a starter on an injury depleted group, playing in 16 games and a starter in 4, he finished the year with a solid 588 yards on 140 carries (4.20 yards per carry) and 320 receiving yards on 40 catches (8 yards per catch) totaling 6 touchdowns in the process.

Since then, he has played the third down role, playing our version of Kevin Faulk, making the timely plays, whether it be a catch, run, or block. As such, he's seen less touches, last year only gaining 118 yards on the ground and 153 yards through the air receiving. I say receiving because he also threw his second career touchdown, on just four attempts (a sparkling career passer rating of 105.2).

Jonathan Dwyer comes in to Pittsburgh a potential steal, after slipping in the draft from what some projected to be a second round pick, to falling to the Steelers late in the sixth. Possessing good size, and adequate speed, there are high hopes for what we may see out of Dwyer. In college, he compiled 3,226 yards rushing on 517 chances in his three years at Georgia Tech, scoring 35 TD's. While playing fullback in their triple option offensive attack, he averaged 6.2 yards per rush, while winning ACC Player of The Year in 2008. Due to offensive scheme, Dwyer saw few receiving chances, only totaling 15 catches throughout his time spent as a Yellow Jacket.

Isaac Redman left Bowie State their all time leading rusher, racking up 3,300 yards while in Bowie, MD. He also set BSU Records in Single Game Rushing Yards (218 vs. Livingstone - 10/6/2007), Rushing Attempts (37 vs. Tuskegee), Single Season Rushing Attempts (281), Longest Run from Scrimmage (99 yards vs. Morgan State) and Single Season Rushing yards (1,512). He had a few of the most impressive Youtube Highlight Clips I've ever seen, which can be seen here (Part One, Two, and Three) for anyone new to his greatness. "Redzone" saw no regular season action, but was active for one game, garnering several "Where's Redman?" hollers in my house, despite a great performance in his first start by Rashard Mendenhall. Pre Seasoon will be his chance to prove he deserves his roster spot this year, but camp is where legends are made, and no legend compares to the Isaac Redman.

Stefan Logan came out of essentially nowhere last year, after a standout season north of the border with the British Columbia Lions of the CFL. His main role last season was return specialist, and was actually listed as a WR (of Hypocloid Fame). His position officially went back to HB this year, and his skills as an elusive runner with good hands could be the complimentary role the Steelers need at HB this year. Though small in stature, the success of other diminutive running backs in the NFL provides promise for Stefan, and what he can do out of the backfield this year.

Preview/ Prediction:

I expect Mewelde Moore to have a good showing this year, as he's entering free agency after this season. Contract years have a way of bringing out the best in players, and factoring that in with a possible larger role offensively, Mewelde will have every opportunity to take this second HB role.

Dwyer will provide enough competition to keep this interesting, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him win the job outright. He looks like he could be the better pure runner, who has youth and potential on his side. The question is is he versatile enough to be more than a ball carrier. Can he pick up blocking schemes, can he catch the ball, does he have all the tools?

Redman will be fun to watch. He showed some real promise last year as a short yardage back, who excelled in goal line packages. He will be hungry. He watched from the sidelines last year as we struggled mightily on the ground, and I'm sure that lit a fire under him to prove he can be the guy to turn that around for us.

Logan will get his shot to return kicks again, but I'm interested to see what he can do as a runner. If his speed, elusiveness, and hands are highlighted out of the backfield, his skillset could be a great compliment to what we have now in Mendenhall, Moore, Dwyer and Redman. Of all of our backs, he has the one thing we may need most, speed.

With the starting job locked up, it will really come down to who provides the intangibles we need from our accessory back. Will we want Moore's savvy, Dwyer's potential, Redman's power, or Logan's speed and flash? Soon we will know. With the renewed emphasis on the run this year, one thing is for sure, we will need one or two of these guys to step their game up. We will need as many able bodies out of the halfback position as possible to get us over the hump we will have early on, with no Super Bowl winning QB under center. 

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Great post

How did you get the pics up like that?
How many backs do you think we keep?

I'm your huckleberry

by CLK47 on Jul 30, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks...

When doing a post, there is an icon to the right you click under media and assets (all the way to the left of the row). After you click the icon, you enter in the URL of the image, hit enter and voila. You can move the image, via cut and paste, and resize it too. It’s totally different than putting one ina reply.

I think we keep 3 HB’s and one FB this year. We’ll be keeping more players at other positions than we normally do, in my opinion. More linebackers, more corners, maybe more linemen. I don’t see a situation where we keep all four myself. But who knows.

"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 30, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Redman

better have learned to catch. If he wants to make the team this year. Him an Dywer are in the same mold and he pulled the short stick on age. If he doesn’t outshine Dywer in catching and blocking he may find himself on the PS again, unless he can make it as a fullback with Frank Summers.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 30, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed...

Fullback might be next on the battle front, I haven’t decided yet.

"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 30, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

the line up:

starting rb: Mendy
goal line sets/3rd down conversions (0-4 yards): Dwyer
3rd down conversions(5-10 yards)/split back sets: MeMo
training camp/preason HOF’er: Redman

Special teams: Randle El/Logan (This just in B.A. lobbied that El might not make the team…)

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 30, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is

Logan/ARE a competition going into camp?

"I sweat at the sound of hearing the names of Harrison and Woodley."- Mr MaLoR

by kick him in the head on Jul 30, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is talk...

it might come down to it!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 30, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Logan is better (now)

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Jul 30, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe Logan has stepped his game up...

In all honesty I feel that he will beat our El. Even though El is older, and might have lost a step he still is a smart football player.

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 30, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see ARE as a returner any longer.

If he makes the team it will be as a backup to Ward and Wallace while one of the rookies takes Wallaces spot from last year.
I’m glad we have ARE rather than Sweed on the field. Although I was looking forward to seeing if he could clear the cobwebs and play some ball.

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by fanofsteel on Jul 31, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i can see your point...

i could see sanders with the potential speed and the hands that they have been talking about in OTA’s possibly beating out ARE. for the 3rd spot

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Aug 2, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would you make the process of getting the ball in the hands of the best running back ever harder than it needs to be? Just hand him the ball and let him run through people and score.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Jul 30, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

he doesn’t run he levitates, and he doesn’t shed tackles he repels them

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 30, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

as well as mastering the jedi mind trick, and force push!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 30, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice...very nice!

I love Dos Equis (sigh) lol…

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Jul 30, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Aug 2, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Redman Redman Redman!

"I sweat at the sound of hearing the names of Harrison and Woodley."- Mr MaLoR

by kick him in the head on Jul 30, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

My heart says

Dwyer and Logan.

My head says Dwyer and Moore.

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 30, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we'll keep

4 running backs this year.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 30, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 RB, a FB, just 2 active TE and Logan.

All those guys are active on Sundays, first injury brings back Redman, who, may be best option at goal line, but Dwyer is best option to back up Mendenhall….sorry Memo, we need you but you have a role, Dwyer starts if “Shard” is out, Dwyer takes a few carries away from Shard to keep him fresh, Shard gets goal line and the first time he’s stopped BTSC crashes with Redman poasts. Dude is too slow for anything but 3rd and 1…now, teach him to long snap or kick off into the end-zone and maybe we have something.

by steelerwheeler on Jul 30, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't we need to include the FB's/TE's in these numbers?

Not from a running/half-back perspective, but from a head count perspective? If we’re going to improve our running game, won’t that dictate us keeping an extra runner on the roster, not just a specialist?

To me, that would lesson the need for a McHugh & Johnson, and make Summers more important – in a pinch you could give the ball to Summers, I’m not sure I would hand off to McHugh.

by dawgs144 on Jul 30, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Good post.

I’m thinking Dwyer’s a lock, without question. He slid to us, he’s electric, he’s big. He could push Redman onto the PS again this year. Could be a matter of wrong time/wrong place for Ike.

Logan and Moore….I think one or the other stays. Not sure who the staff want to keep. I have a feeling Logan is gone, especially with our positional versatility at the return game (our new WR’s, and our CB’s picking up the return slack from Logan, PLUS being able to fill other roles.)

The sun over the Summer of Logan may have set this year.

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by Fifty-Eight on Jul 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I agree Logan is probably gone

He can cut on a dime, and has good acceleration, but he doesnt have top-end speed. Them legs are moving fast, but they are just too short.

Now Rod, that was a dude with true speed. Love seeing his highlights.

by SteelerMessican on Jul 30, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Dwyer is the favorite over Redman and Moore the favorite over Logan in my opinion. Still, they are definitely interesting battles to follow at training camp :)

by Simonsen on Jul 31, 2010 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't U Just Love Competition?

If you want the job, then perform between the white lines and take it. If Redman REALLY want a roster spot, then he better be a beast on special teams this year, something he didn’t do this past year. I think Logan is competing against Antonio Brown, who can actually be a 5th WR on game day who can help stretch the field, which will be needed now that M. Wallace will be seeing a few more double teams this year.

I predict – 4 RBs (Mendy, Moore, Redman, Dwyer) & 1 FB (Tank) will make the team this year. I think Logan will be beat out by A. Brown & then traded for a 7th round pick and that Demtrius Taylor will be put on the practice squad. The great thing is that anyone of these players could make all of us look like fools and take a spot in training camp and the preseason. Who wants it the most?

by datruth4life2.0 on Jul 30, 2010 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Logan actually was pretty good on ST last year

i believe there are even 2 videos on youtube of him making plays on kickoff coverage

by hasay on Jul 30, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there a chance

that redman can become our fullback? he is 2 slow to be a rb so i think he would be a good fullback..i could be wrong but its jus my opinion.. let him play fullback, while dwyer and logan duke it out for backup duty for mendenhall..wut do u guys think?

by rav3nx92 on Jul 30, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Difficulty is

Redman showed in training camp that he had difficulty with blocking assignments. He’ll need to lift that if he wants to play FB. And it seems like SUmmers has the inside lane at that

by mojo88 on Jul 30, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but i think thats y he didnt make the roster as a whole last year.. he didnt get the playbook very well..i think this year he has that down and possibly he can try again?

by rav3nx92 on Jul 30, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

last year was just like this year

we simply had too much depth. we had FWP, Mendy, and Moore. realistically it wouldve been almost impossible to kick any of them off the roster, especially since he was the only one eligible for the PS

by hasay on Jul 30, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Logan = cut this year!

I just can’t see them wasting the roster spot on a one dimenisonal player this year. Sanders and Brown have an excellent chances to be KR/PR. The Steelers must get these younger players involved some time. I believe it will be this season.

by steelersrock08 on Jul 31, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Redman and Summers as split backs...

The most dangerous RB/FB tandem ever to play the sport!

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by fanofsteel on Jul 31, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

just think of how many TD we could score on one play

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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 31, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great post

Thoroughly enjoyed it!
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by alfresco on Aug 1, 2010 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

a few of us did

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by WVPiratesfan on Aug 1, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

during the backs on backers drill Mr.Redman was the only RB able to control Thaddeus Gibson

 http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Something-old-new-on-Day-2/c009f39d-9743-4c33-b4e5-d287464618ff

no only can Mr.Redman get touchdown but he blocks like a linemen, only goes to show Mr.Redman greatness, bask in his greatness!

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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Aug 1, 2010 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

i really enjoyed watching this, backs on backers drill

http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/videos/Backs-on-Backers-Drill—-August-1/f7824963-2c9b-4f86-bd82-307a78add794#?id=f7824963-2c9b-4f86-bd82-307a78add794

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Aug 2, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

just saw some highlights of last season

man logan looked good on some of his returns

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Aug 2, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  


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