BTSC Daily Six Pack - 'Tis the Preseason to be Jolly Edition
by John Stephens on Aug 16, 2010 10:06 AM EDT
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PrintIX- One of the things I thought we would get to see on Saturday was Daniel Sepulveda, A.K.A. Robopunter, taking a few kickoffs. We had heard the previous weekend that he had taken a few with great success. Unfortunately, the duty was left to Jeff Reed and as usual, he could not put the ball in the endzone (except for the one where he had the wind at his back and he kicked a line drive through the back of the endzone). Blogger Phil Dzikiy decided to take out his stop watch and measure the hang time of his kicks. If I recall correctly, I believe someone reported that Robopunter was getting 4.1+ in his hang time.
X- Sports Radio Interviews caught up with Dan Rooney, who weighed in with his thoughts on Dick LeBeau, Ben Roethlisberger, and President Obama (please no political debates). It's always nice to hear from Dan, and this interview is no exception.
XIII- Did you miss all of the NFL preseason games outside of the Steelers, but you want to know what happened? Well Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback article does a nice job wrapping up the NFL's first weekend of preseason games.
"We want Ben! We want Ben!''
-- Chanting fans -- though not a huge number of them -- in the first half of the Steelers-Detroit preseason opener Saturday night at Heinz Field. Coach Mike Tomlin did not play quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who will be suspended for at least the first four weeks of the regular season.
On a side note, I also thought Wexell's tweet on that situation made a good point:
@jimwexell Bouchette reporting no Ben tonight. I'm surprised. Figured they'd want to get this out of the way.
XIV- Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette wrote a nice summary of his thoughts on the game. I thought it was interesting when he mentioned that Ben Roethlisberger did not comment after the game. If you missed the game entirely, here is the highlight video from NFL.com. My favorite highlight still is the block that Mewelde Moore throws on the Dennis Dixon right side sweep in the redzone. The play starts at 1:30 and the bone-crunching block occurs around 1:35.
XL- Isaac Redman deserves his own shout out in the six pack. He looked tremendous on Saturday and I cannot make a logical argument, as of now, against him being our #2 option in the backfield. Buck Frank, a blogger for the ReviewOnline.com, wrote a piece on Sir Isaac after the game. He believes that Redman is the answer to the Steelers depth problem at RB. Also, I am surprised how quickly the nickname "Red Zone" has spread. I thought it had started here, but I could be wrong.
XLIII- So, I caught my first episode of Hard Knocks ever. I hate the Cowboys and Bengals, so I did not watch theirs. Also, I would have rather watched a Justin Beiber concert than see the Chief's preseason camp. Conversely, the Jets play the kind of football I like and I think Rex Ryan is an interestingly eccentric guy. I was blown away with how awesome the show was. Unfortunately, I have never had the pleasure of attending a NFL camp, so I really only had a vague idea of what was going on. Anyway, I bring this up because I am curious: would you want the Steelers to participate in Hard Knocks if they came knocking (sorry, couldn't resist).
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Nice pic
That’s a sweet pic of the Redman TD. May it be one of many.
by Chicago Steeler on Aug 16, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
Haven't you guys already had a "Hard-Knocks"?
I think it goes around every team before it repeats.
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
show has only been around for like 6 seasons or so.
We haven’t been on it. The Cowboys have twice, and other than that I know the Bengals, Chiefs, Ravens, and Jets is all I know of. Think I’m missing one.
I’d love for the Steelers to be on it.
What's the deal with Redman
I’ve been hearing a lot about him lately.
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
He's like Curtis Steele...
But better.
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
-Deep Thought By Jack Handy
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 16, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I think I get it now. So he’s your really underrated fast HB?
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Aug 16, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Fast... no...
But under the radar with real skill… yessir.
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
-Deep Thought By Jack Handy
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 16, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok. So he is more of a Goal-line/Red-zone HB?
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Aug 16, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
He made a name for himself in the goal line drills last training camp. His Youtube clips were pretty damn good, so when he showed glimpses of ability he was immediately hyped up beyond a realm of realism.
That’s sounds overly pesimistic, but it’s true. He has shown some real ability, and at times has looked absolutely great (2nd quarter rush against Detroit being an example of great). He’s going to be a good player, in my opinion. He can be even better than “good”… but we’ll see.
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
-Deep Thought By Jack Handy
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 16, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I think you guys might have a good backfield with Mendy being a 1&2 down back and using Summers/Redman as a 3rd down back.
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Aug 16, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
I’d like to see a little more speed back there, or at least a speedy option on call, but all in all I’d say we’re looking good enough at RB. (Not a huge Summers guy as of yet, but he’s got potential I think.)
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
-Deep Thought By Jack Handy
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 16, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
you would’ve heard a lot about it him last year, but Tomlin put him on IR instead. let’s hope he’s out on the field once regular season starts. Redman showed the same brilliance last pre-season.
"God blessed me with the talent I have." - Deebo
+33
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
He didnt put Redman on the IR
They put the IR on redman.
To continue beating dead horses,
I’m gonna chime in on the brewing QB controversy (even if it’s only for four games).
For JRR Tolkien fans, the QB situation couldn’t be clearer – Lefty is an Ent, DD an Elf. If you want a platform for an arm, Lefty is the guy. If you want a player who enhances your running game (and at the same time has a good arm) it’s DD. Yeah, DD has happy feet in the pocket, as many young QBs do, but his takeoffs create havoc for defenses. Lefty is one dimensional – pass or handoff, take your pick.
DD can freeze a defense with a gesture; Lefty can’t. It’s pretty simple to me that if you want to run the ball, you get more yards when your QB is a threat.
My heros have always been Steelers...
nice...I'm a LOTR nerd
I’ll take an Elf over an Ent any day. Takes too much to motivate an Ent….takes them forever to make decisions too.
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 16, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
it does, but look out when the ents get rolling
plus, they know more about the world than anybody else. Wow, count me in as a LOTR nerd.
Liked the comparison though :)
true
Those guys can absolutely reek havoc (if all aligns properly)…and they certainly have more worldly knowledge…
But…would you rather have someone fleet of foot with impeccable senses who counts his victims in battle…or someone so unmotivated that it takes the site of his dead friends & family to join said battle?
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 16, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
asked differently
would you rather have someone who can only go against people, or someone that can destroy buildings? Behind a bad first line of defense though, an elf might definitely be better. I shudder at the fact of having to show BL his dead grandma to get him going…
good points...fellow nerd
However, if my memory serves me…Legolas took down a nasty dog or two in Two Towers (scene where Aragorn was taken over the cliff) and an “elephant” in ROTK – singlehandedly (well actually he used two hands). But he most certainly cannot take down a building.
So…given some time for that first line of defense to align, maybe the best solution is having the Elf begin the season with the Ent taking the reigns once that line gels…if that line gels.
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 16, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
it was an oliphant
"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason
by chewiesteeler on Aug 16, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
ah...quite original
And I believe the “dogs” were Wargs…more like wolves…
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 16, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
wargs indeed
in the books though, Legolas doesn’t do the awesome oliphant stunt. Nor do the Warg Riders attack between Edoras and Helm’s deep if memory serves me right. There, I believe I just went to ultimate nerdage. I do like your strategy though :)
Yeah, there were some serious discontinuities in the movies. Legolas kills like 6000 bad dudes by himself and the “high elves” from Lothlorien who show up at Helms Deep for no reason, who are supposed to be older and cooler and shit, all get butchered in like 5 minutes.
Man, I hated the Two Towers. Jackson ruined Treebeard and Faramir too.
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Definitely the weakest of the series
I hated that he brought Elves to Helms Deep. I can take leaving stuff out or changing characters a bit, but Helms Deep was about mankind fighting alone and holding out till Gandalf could arrive with more Men to fight.
by Chicago Steeler on Aug 16, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s odd to me is how much extra stuff he added in, like the Elves, like Aragorn’s random near-death experience, like the gratuitous fighting in Osgiliath (which happened but wasn’t described in the book). I mean this is a 3+ hour movie, and you’re adding stuff that isn’t in the books and doesn’t contribute to the plot?
Ah, whatever. This is just years of pent up annoyance coming out.
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I agree he ruined Faramir
possibly my favorite character in the book…But Jackson did what he had to do. There is a great essay by Tom Shippey (renowned Tolkien scholar) called “Another Road to Middle-earth” that is actually a defense of the choices Jackson made. The last essay in “Understanding the Lord of the Rings” (by Zimbardo and Isaacs). It’s a great read, I don’t agree with everything in the article but he makes some great points.
Here’s the link on google books… It starts on page 233, and unfortunately has quite some pages missing, but I couldn’t come up with anything better this quickly.
I'll have to check it out
but I’m skeptical. Defending Jackson’s direction, especially in the Two Towers, is a little like defending a Bruce Arians gameplan: it’s impossible to know how it would have turned out otherwise, but I’m pretty sure it could have been a lot better.
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I do think Fellowship and Return of the King were pretty good representations. Two Towers was weak though.
by Chicago Steeler on Aug 16, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree about the Fellowship
and in part about the Return of the King. I think the ending was waaaay over the top though. I agree the Scouring of the Shire would have been too much and too dark, but 45 minutes of happy endings? Kinda diverted the message for me. On the other hand, Rohan in the Two Towers (and the other cultures as well) were generally presented amazingly well. Gotta give credit where credit is due :)
Agreed on the cultures
Visually, the movies were all amazing. That’s pretty much the problem with every Peter Jackson movie, though. Cool visuals with lots of superfluous drama and action.
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I'm not a fan of his other movies either
but he did achieve one major thing about the world in general: authenticity. And that’s nothing less than what many always claimed made the novels unfilmable. Maybe that’s why fans (like me) tend to get down on Jackson… He did an amazing job with the world in general, which makes it even more frustrating that he unnecessarily changed the story at times. Although I am sure he would argue it was to preserve the main themes.
see I tend to think the same way
thing is, Shippey is a great Tolkien scholar and critic. His interpretations are probably among the best I have read. Kinda like a mastermind in the mold of Chuck Noll applauding Arians… all of a sudden, it makes you reconsider your view.
ROTK was worse
How about the searchlight Eye of Sauron??
by sylvansteeler on Aug 16, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
thing is though
how else would you have depicted Sauron? I hate that eye every time I watch the movie, but I cannot come up with any other way to show Sauron searching his lands and directing his armies.
Here I’ll agree. There are some things in the books that are too subtle to depict visually. Things like Sauron, a wizard fight, an anthropomorphic mountain, the way Tolkien talks about “power” in his writing. They did what they had to do to make it accessible, and they didn’t destroy characters or major themes in the process, which I’m okay with.
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I thought LOTR trilogy was more about being fun to watch than accurate to the reknown books.. but that being said...
Randal Graves: [describing the Lord of the Rings Trilogy] Here’s the first movie.
[walks a few steps, staring blankly]
Randal Graves: And here’s the second movie.
[walks a few steps again, pretends to trip]
Hobbit Lover: He is way off, loser.
Randal Graves: You ready for the third movie?
[walks yet again, stops, pretends to throw the ring into the volcano. Shrugs his shoulders and turns around]
I’d rather have a Balrog, although their wings suck ass. Having Isaac “Ilúvatar” Redman at RB makes this whole discussion moot, though.
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by BadMaafala on Aug 16, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh damn
In that case, I’d rather have a wizard run the show…a wizard even of the Grey variety.
But you do bring up the ultimate trump card…the alpha and omega…
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 16, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
…a wizard even of the Grey variety.
Charlie?
by TomlinsPuffyJacket on Aug 16, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually had to google that :(
I was gonna bring up one of the Valar, but of course I cannot trump Eru…
Rec'd only because you used the word Iluvatar
Which puts you in the class of LOTR fans who have also read The Silmarillion (better than LOTR in my opinion)
by sylvansteeler on Aug 16, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally wrong LOTR analogy
Leftwich is to a dwarf and DD is it an elf. Slow and singlely talented vs. all the elf traits.
Being a Steelers fan is more than just liking a team, it's about accepting your challenge and doing it right.
by StVincentKid on Aug 16, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
this is the nerdiest conversation I have seen on BTSC (and thats saying something)
therefore it is one of the most awesome conversations.
But screw elves, dwarves, wizards, and ents……….I’ll take a QB who resembles Sauron (with the ring of course).
OGRE!
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
If Lefty is a ent or dwarf as suggested below and Dixon is a elf
What in the name of middle earth does that make Ben?
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
Aragorn
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
Our D would be a legion of Uruk-Hai
By the way, I am a major LoTR/Star Wars nerd. Actually, I’m a movie nerd in general.
You could ask my wife if you were to talk to her. I know stuff about movies that would make Gene Shallitt jealous.
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
yeah same here
When I keep mentioning movies, my fiancee just starts rolling her eyes. But come Christmas, I get a blu ray figure. Go figure… actually, thinking about comparison, how about Suggs as the mouth of Sauron?
Works pretty good
Especially when Ben (Aragorn) cuts his head off…LOL!
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
That's funny
How about Flacco being the Eye(brow) of Sauron?
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
That MeMo block
Was especially good because his assignment was not originally to block. He’s running out to the flat as an option for Dixon as he rolled out. When he realized Dixon wasn’t getting rid of the ball…he switched up and blasted that dude. Good stuff.
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
Hard Knocks...
Has got to be one of the best put together shows on TV. Just a great look into camp, and a well made show. The Kansas City one was actually pretty good too.
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
-Deep Thought By Jack Handy
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 16, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 16, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You know...
I have very little knowledge of this guy’s existence. A friend of mine brought him up while watching the Patriots game while they were showing Brady. I’ve heard his name a few times, but had to google him… I don’t get kids these days… but to each their own.
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
-Deep Thought By Jack Handy
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 16, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it either
But I suppose this is no better than the Hanson and Nysnc music I had to grow up with.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 16, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
This is true...
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
-Deep Thought By Jack Handy
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 16, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I did
My sisters loved them. Ugh
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 16, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Had that cued up pretty quick Johnny...
One of your favorites?
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
-Deep Thought By Jack Handy
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 16, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Google works quickly
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 16, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Riiiight
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
-Deep Thought By Jack Handy
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 16, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh and a shout out to Antonio Brown
Didn’t realize dude had that kind of speed. If he and Sanders pan out…there may be more big plays this year than we’ve seen in quite some time…with Wallace already in the mix.
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
The we want Ben chant
started with a couple of fans sitting behind where I was, spread quickly, and died out soon afterwards. Taking part in it, I didn’t think it was that huge of a deal; just some fans wanting their ticket price’s worth. It’s funny to see so many reporters make a huge deal out of it
it's always like that
the media needs something to talk about. Seriously, the Ben didn’t talk to reporters deal? What would he have talked about when he didn’t play? He’s been more open to the media than ever before, yet when he has nothing to say everybody jumps on it. Ridiculous.
"But he was already ahead of Summers, who is now being used more as a fullback"
Frank Summers is being used as a unicorn? I don’t understand this sentence.
Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
where's the leoplurodon?
"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason
by chewiesteeler on Aug 16, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
LeCharles Bentley is the leoplurodon. He will guide us to Candy Mountain.
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by BadMaafala on Aug 16, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d give LeCharles my kidney, candy or not.
by Phantaskippy on Aug 16, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Its the land of sweets and joy…and joyness
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Aug 16, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Chaaaarrrrrlie…….
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Aug 16, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
good 6 pack
I think Hard Knocks is a bit too much distraction, especially since HBO Canada doesn’t carry. There is no up-side for me (yes I can be selfish at times).
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 16, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
thanks Johnny!
for the great synopsis of Saturday’s game!
XL- Isaac Redman deserves his own shout out in the six pack. He looked tremendous on Saturday and I cannot make a logical argument, as of now, against him being our #2 option in the backfield. Buck Frank, a blogger for the ReviewOnline.com, wrote a piece on Sir Isaac after the game. He believes that Redman is the answer to the Steelers depth problem at RB. Also, I am surprised how quickly the nickname “Red Zone” has spread. I thought it had started here, but I could be wrong.
I have been on the Redman bandwagon since he was drafted last year. Putting him on the IR was a mistake, and we need him on our side. For the record, I will state for probably the 5000th time this past year, put him on the 53! Any way to get a 33 jersey at this point???
Kudos to DD this game, can’t wait to see what else he has up his sleeve this year!
"God blessed me with the talent I have." - Deebo
I think NFL.com has a "make your own jersey"
Just get #33 with “Redman” on it
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 16, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Redman would be the first
to tell you he wasn’t ready last year – mentally or physically. Bowie State isn’t exactly a place that prepares you for the NFL game. But he stuck with it, worked hard (obviously) and is now ready to roll.
My heros have always been Steelers...
physically
no difference from last year. showing the same talent he did last preseason, fresh out of Bowie. I will take mentally, though.
"God blessed me with the talent I have." - Deebo
nope, big difference actually
according to himself and coaches, he was not in football shape last year. Remember the game he asked to be taken out because he was tired last preseason after one long run? Yeah, that didn’t sit well with coaches. This year, his conditioning is much better, and in the beginning of camp he was said to have lost quite some excess weight. So there definitely is a difference physically.
amen
i think his fitness level is waaaay above last year’s. i can remember him getting gassed very quickly in last year’s preseason. the only time i saw him gulping air was on the ground after about 3 touches in a row – then he looked like “plz lemme rest!”
by lamarr_the_BEAST! on Aug 16, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh
I’m not sold on Redman, and everyone’s all over him like Frank Summers last year. Redman had an okay game against the Lions’ second- and third-string defense, and it was only okay because of a single play (where he showed off his signature move, to spin like a top).
If you take out the 31-yard run, which was really good, he only averaged 2.0 yards rushing for the rest of the game. Against the Lions.
this thread reads just like the thread last year about redman… and idk if anyone remembers, but last year redman did not make the roster
Completely different situation than last year
Redman isn’t the same player he was last year. And we don’t have 3 shoe-ins for RB this year.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 16, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
UH! Double up, UH UH!
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
Completely different situation than last year
Redman isn’t the same player he was last year. And we don’t have 3 shoe-ins for RB this year.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 16, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I ain't talkin' 'bout Playboys, cause silicone parts are made for toys.
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
awesome
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Hehe
I thought I’d do something a little different than “you can say that again”…
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
good job
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
In fairness
Our starting RB averaged 0.0 yards per cary if you exclude his longest run and dropped the football when a mild breeze came through.
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I hate to tell you, but you can’t just “take away” a run. It doesn’t work that way.
Did you watch his blitz pick ups and blocking? Absolutely outstanding.
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by John Stephens on Aug 16, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
and if you take out FWP's best run in XL
he actually didn’t have the longest run in Super Bowl History. Holy crap, rewrite those history books!
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Redman had 14 rushes for a total of 29 yards. Against the Lions.
One good play does not a star make.
no he didn't
he had 15 rushes for 60 yards. There are almost no running backs that, with their few great runs taken away, actually have a good average. Look at Adrian Peterson’s games… the gains are usually 1,0,2,4,1,2,0,2,-1, and then a 40 yarder, before it starts again. It’s how the game works. You cannot seriously be proposing to take the biggest gains away, or the Steelers didn’t win XLIII because well, the one great play in the end was just one play and should be taken away anyways.
Also, let’s not forget that Redman was 4/4 in short yardage situations (3 yards or less), something this team desperately needs, and additionally had a nice screen pass and run and good blitz pickups.
Setting aside this silly metric for a moment...
It’s worth pointing out that many of those runs for only a couple yards were (surprise!!!) plays designed to get only a couple yards. The Steelers made a commendable concerted effort in this game to try and get the small yards on the ground rather than through the air.
The telling stat is Redman was 4/4 on short yardage and goal line carries. The team doesn’t need a back that can get big chunks of yards, although that’d be nice. The team needs, and has needed for two seasons now, a back that can consistently grab 2 yards on 3rd-and-1, a back that can score on the goal line.
by Thoroughbred of Sin on Aug 16, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Hard Knocks
I would love to see the Steelers featured on this show. I’m shocked that all of the Steeler-hungry masses on this site wouldn’t jump at the chance. It would be 60 minutes a week of quality, well-produced, Steelers-only coverage.
The first episode of the Jets version was great. I would have loved to have a coach like Rex Ryan back in my playing days.
I don't really care as we don't watch HBO
But I don’t think allowing hard knocks in is something the Rooneys would do. To me Hard Knocks is the chance to show off your team and that’s not the Rooney way
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
I voted NO
But wanted to vote Redman, I hope he’s not mad.
If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.
Wait a minute...
Is that Matt Spaeth we see pancaking a defender on that Redman touchdown picture? That has GOT to be photoshop!
Seriously, I’ve been saying how the guy has improved in his blocking to the few who’ll listen, but this is just astonishing!
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
I had this very argument with my bro whilst watching the game
The answer is: not exactly. Spaeth was actaully being moved backwards in one direction before the guy who was shoving him around backwards like a rag doll changed direction to go after the ball carrier who went the other way. At the moment the guy shifted his center of gravity he became off balance and Spaeth managed to “pancake” the now off balance rusher.
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by chewiesteeler on Aug 16, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, that would make sense...
However, I still maintain that he has improved. In the course of the 2009 season he went from god-awful to near-mediocre. Gotta give the guy some props!!!
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
But I'm sure he was like, 'Look at me smashing this guy, yall!" in the locker room.
nothing like ruining what you thought was a great play when seeing the actual video.
ok, pop quiz
why in the @*)(*# have spaeth at the point of attack on a goal line play????
they’ve got mchugh, who before his trip to IR was the TE/FB, and then johnson who stepped up last season. but nooooo, there’s spaeth.
that alone is reason enough to hate arians.
by lamarr_the_BEAST! on Aug 16, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
because he can pee on them
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 17, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Good post.
You will officially be credited forever for creating a third option to Yes/No questions, or all other two option questions for that matter.
Soup or salad?
Redman!
I wasn’t pleased because we didn’t win - Mike Tomlin (after the 2009 week 2 loss to Chicago).
The first reference to Redzone Redman I can find was ----
Davis and Madison at Risk from Isaac Redzone and Tank If Tank makes the team, it will because he can play on all five special team units and because he’s a solid blocker.
Tank is in the running because he’s a special teams ace, and that’s why guys like Madison are at risk. Tank brings to the table something they can’t: he seems to be able to block in short yardage situations, which was a glaring weakness last year. How many times last season did we see Gary Russell tackled four yards deep in the backfield, with Spaeth and McHugh missing blocks?
I don’t think it was any coincidence that Redzone scored twice last night with Summers opening a lane for him each time.
This team could easily have Isaac and Tank as running backs, if Tank is actually an ST ace who also comes in mostly to block in short yardage situations.
by Homer J. on Aug 14, 2009 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions
In this post
I wasn’t pleased because we didn’t win - Mike Tomlin (after the 2009 week 2 loss to Chicago).
Hard Knocks is a great show if you haven't seen it...
I hate the Bengals too but watching behind the scenes was awesome and you really feel for the players when you see them get cut.
I would absolutely love the Steelers to be on it.
Thanx Johnny...great post
i thought Redman and our rookie receivers looked good, especially Brown. If BA will plan right, we can have a very potent offense.
Things can always be worse....
Pipe dreams, man...
Depending on Arians to plan right? LOL!
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
KO
Can’t Redman do it? Wouldn’t even need the other 10, he’d either pound it into the cheap seats or kick it so high the opponent would have to fair catch it at the 1.
profootballfocus.com has all the data you need about kicker distance and hangtime…Reed is way last of all the regulars. I gotta believe there’s a dozen current Steelers who could kick off better with a little practice….and still be able to fill a return lane.
Loved the Poll!!
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Speaking of blocks, was that Hines almost pulling a Keith Rivers on Detroit’s no. 52, during Arnaz Battle’s catch and run?
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by Flying Polamalus on Aug 19, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
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