Preseason Broncos Thread

Good one. But considering all the injuries the Broncos have had so far this year, the Mighty Tim hasn’t been so hot in that department in Denver. Better ask the Gators’ fans.

I have yet to see any healing by Tebow yet, but I have seen his throws…I’m the milehighreport.com self-appointed Tebow critic (was very VERY anti-tebow before the draft). He throws an accurate ball for sure. If he can get his reads going quicker and speed up his release a little, he has potential.

Probably nobody very often…if the game goes anything like our preseason so far, we won’t run the ball much.

Buckhalter is back in practice now though and will probably see a little action. We have Justin Fargas who has been playing (but not doing much to cheer about so far), and a couple young guys Ball and Hall who have been okay.

Our O-line has been seriously missing Clady and it shows. The running game suffers for it. Also the two rookies starting on the line are better pass blockers so far than they are run blockers. This is one area I’m planning on watching pretty close. Other at MHR say that we will be a pass to set up the run team and I agree, but I’m a little old-school in that I believe we MUST have a running game of some magnitude to be successful.

1 Lance Ball 2 Bruce Hall 3 Farags

and that answer is NO! lol

The biggest x factor for us this year is going to be if the O-line can gel. I think your team is going to be a superb test for us even if you run vanilla defense…you’ve got some PLAYERS in your front 7.

Have the Steelers been doing much blitzing this pre season? We haven’t seen much, which has been a good thing for our patch work O line.
Also depends on who you mean by QB. Orton has been very good at moving around enough to avoid any rush. Brady Quinn and Tebow have shown very little pocket presence.

our O-Line is sub-par right now

That is some hilarious stuff

We already have Tebow

Born of a virgin…. well, ya’ll know the story.

was funny

Jarvis Moss has been stepping it up (finally!) with this opportunity. He has a cast on one arm, but has been playing his best football to day (3 year pro).

Robert Ayers has been doing his part too…he was one of our 1st rounders last year that is starting to look good. He doesn’t have the umph that Doom does, but he is typically the guy that causes pressure on the opponents so far this preaseason.

Doom hasn’t been IR’d yet as there is a chance we can get him back in week 11 or so. I don’t know how that is going to play out though…if we don’t IR him he takes up a roster spot during the regular season…one that could be used on someone to develop. If we look good through the first 5 – 6 games, my guess is that they will try to get him back.

Biggest strengths Offense:

• WRs – even after trading the Beast away this looks like a VERY promising group of guys…cuts in this area will be tough decisions.

 * Kyle Orton – this guy is playing out of his mind so far…most of us are anticipating a surprisingly good season from him.

Biggest weakness Offense:

 * Young O-line: These guys look okay so far…but they will make or break the season by how well they hold the line.

 * Backup QB – I honestly thing Tebow should be our backup…which coming from me isn’t a good thing…Tebow isn’t ready, but Quinn has sucked that bad so far.

Biggest strength Defense:

 * DBs hands down – Yeah…throw on Champ Baily please…or throw over the middle with Dawkins bearing down on the crossing routes.

Biggest weakness Defense:

 * LBs – The loss of Doom is huge. DJ is injured and the others are either young or not “wow” LBs.

Honest expectations:

 * I’m thinking we go 8 – 8 to 10 – 6 The injuries we have aren’t major other than Doom and the offense looks much more comfortable than last year.

Isaac Redman: No I don’t :P

Biggest strengths Defense:

that is funny. I am not a chick but I get it.

But that doesn’t mean they are Broncos fans.

I’d buy a Kyle Orton jersey before I bought a Tebow one…Tim has yet to prove anything to me.

at a concert, in Orlando. WTF

How many of you Steelers fans have bought a Tebow jersey?
Seriously, it’s a phenomenon that I don’t begin to understand. Don’t watch much college football, so knew next to nothing about him before the draft. I really wish he were on some other team – just don’t need the nonsense that surrounds him.

Is that a sin?

in H$%$

Without question.

I’ve never been impressed with Ben with or without his character issues.

in april that i wouild trade for ben with 2 1 round pics 10 and 11 because ben will win 2 more super bowls

Kyle Orton!

Most of the average fans are excited about a first round QB. Then there are the Tebow gushers. Then you have people like Sadaraine and me who really disliked the Tebow pick (I was really hoping the Broncos would take Dan Williams with the 25th pick). But I think that the ones like myself have started to say, he may be really good some day. He showed some good poise in the Bengals game, and made some good throws, mixed in with bad ones. Then got himself hurt at the end of the game on a meaningless play.
I just heard he’s back at practice for the first time in ten days, so maybe he’ll play some on Sunday.

The majority: This is the 2nd coming of Elway – he is the savior and is going to raise our franchise from the ashes like the mighty pheonix. We have tons of people now cheering for us because of this guy that don’t even know who Terrel Davis is. Even some die-hard fans think this guy is the future in some form or fashion.

The minority: Tebow was a bad pick. He hasn’t even shown the decision making skills required to play in a pro offense and his long wind-up throwing mechanics are going to cost us turnovers if and when he becomes the starter.

I’m with bradley in the minority group, but like I said above, I AM impressed with what I’ve seen so far in this preseason. I have no delusions though, these aren’t real football games and he hasn’t shown that he has it to me yet.

Just one of those things. I think the Raiders will be much better this year, mostly because they got rid of their big albatross. Jason Campbell is a good QB, IMO, and certainly much better than JaFatso. Also, Bruce Gradkowski showed some toughness last year – he actually outplayed Campbell statistically. Raiders will surprise some people this year – they did beat the Eagles, the Bengals, and (sorry) Pittsburgh.

I can’t remember the last time one side or the other has gone 2 – 0 in regular season match ups.

i wouild cut him but that me

I think it’s too early to judge myself. He’s got a lot of issues that need to be fixed, not including what Cleveland did to his head.

I’m in the wait and see boat myself. Give him some time to get right in his own head this year, not being the every other week starter will help that greatly, and calm down, then we’ll see. He’s got the arm strength, just needs to work on accuracy and patience.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Over?

The kid looks bad right now. I don’t like the idea of him being 2nd string right now, let alone starting for sure. He’s probably an improvement over Chris Simms though…Simms was HORRIBLE last year.

I think most of us also realize that McDaniel’s offense has a very steep learning curve for it. Tom Brady said it takes 3 years in the system to get it down. Quinn has had one training camp and off season so far…he may come out of it, but I don’t want to see him on the field during the regular season.

PS: Thanks on the avatar compliment…long time Pearl Jam fan…they are probably the most underrated rock band of the past couple decades.

I think he’ll be a good to great Head Coach. (Personally I actually like what he’s doing) He’s had some ups and downs, made some rookie mistakes, etc. But that is to be expected when your trying to fix a mediocre team.

What I find funny is people are bitching and moaning about losing Shanny, yet this is the same group that a year before that were calling for Shanny’s head. (Shanny is a great coach, I just think he was getting stale being at the same place for so long, even the players quit listening)

As for who I would want? I kind of like the whole “New” feel, which is one reason I’m glad our DC is Wink and they didn’t hire some known quantity.

for the most part. He’s done some things I don’t like (getting rid of Cutler and Marshall are not included in that – good riddance to both of them). But by and large, he’s done a good job of building a team the way he wants it. He has installed an incredibly complex passing game, and Orton is just getting good at it. Plus Orton’s receivers like Gaffney and Royal and Lloyd are just now getting the feel of it.
“If he were not your coach, who would you want?” You know, I didn’t like Rex Ryan a year and a half ago, when Pat Bowlen was interviewing for a new HC. Thought he was an a@*. But I’ve come to like the guy, and there’s no denying that he’s done a heck of a job with the Jets.

McDaniels has stuck to his guns and has a plan. I like that. It is about the team, not about the players. I like that too.

If he weren’t our coach, I’d like Rex Ryan. The guy is a blow-hard, but he knows how to whip a defense into shape.

will be on the market next year. Have at him

He hasn’t been perfect, but I, for one, don’t miss Cutler, Marshall or Scheffler. They all had some ability, especially Marshall, but all had major head problems. Any new HC needs to clean house a bit, and McD had no choice really in getting rid of those guys. Long story, won’t go into it all here. Tomlin, in contrast, was lucky to inherit a real good team.
But I’d take Orton for Cutler straight up, as a bottom line. And McD did much better than that. He’s a pretty sharp guy.

Most of us are drinking the McDaniels kool-aid at MHR, but that doesn’t mean the majority of Bronco fans feel that way. I think it is close to a split.

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oak looks real good might win 9

I thought.

The hope is that several younger guys who had to start last year (and wore down as a result) will do a good job of rotating with the new but older guys. Jamal Williams is looking real good, after a whole year off with his biceps injury. Justin Bannon came over from the Ravens – you all probably know more about him than we do, but he has looked good so far. Jarvis Green came from the Pats, and will mostly be a pass rush DE.
The younger guys include Ryan McBean, who was on the Steelers (PS mostly, I think) in 07. He started last year at DE – when he went out with an injury, the D got worse, whether because of his absence or not?
Marcus Thomas will be in his 4th year from Florida. He’s been moved around a lot and had to deal with new coaches and new scheme last year. Hopefully he’ll have a good year – very talented, athletic guy who has played both NT and DE.
Ron Fields came with Mike Nolan from SF and played NT last year but he’s probably more suited for DE.
LeKevin Smith came from the Pats last year and is a solid rotation DE.
As far as not drafting well in 09 or 10 for a 3-4, I agree. It kills me that we took Tebow at 25 instead of Dan Williams, the DT from Tennessee, who went to AZ at 26. I think Williams will be a very good DT for years.

My big concern for this defense is stopping the run and I haven’t seen any solid proof yet that we have the nutz to get it done in the trenches. They looked good against Cinci, but looked poor against Detroit.

I will say that Jamal looks very good…I don’t get too concerned with older guys. If they have the drive and make it through TC, then that means they have proved they have it to the coaches (who know much more than I do about what they want and how risky it is). We have Dawkins, Baily, Goodman…our defense has some long-in-the-tooth guys that are superb.

I was disappointed with how we drafted early…Thomas wasn’t a surprise to me, but I was super against Tebow any earlier than the 2nd round (started off at 3rd round, but he grew on me a little as we debated it). I agree with you that we need more young talent that we can develop for our D-Line.

Going to the 3 – 4: I don’t care which way we go as long as we do it well. I think last year, we actually ran a fair amount of 5 – 2 that most people watching don’t notice at all. It was an interesting way to maximize the impact of the type of players we had. I am more curious to see how we play call in the regular season…everyone knows the preseason is vanilla with a side of vanilla wafers.