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IX- A few days ago, some of us were discussing the always relevant question of youth and upside versus experience and knowledge of the playbook.  This time, the battle was between rookie Doug Worthington and veteran Nick Eason, two players battling for a spot on the defensive lineWell, JJ Cooper of Steelers Lounge, decided to dive into the topic a little bit deeper.  He went back through the game tape and analyzed the play of the 2nd and 3rd string DL for all of their snaps giving a "Yes" or "No" grade if they played well on that snap.  The results may surprise you.

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X- Jay Glazer is going across the country to visit as many teams that he can in his 'Training Camp Party' special.  He visited the Steelers while they were at Latrobe and did a few interviews with some of the players.  Once you click the link you will have to scroll over to page 2 on the bottom to get to the Steelers.  Anyway, he sat down with Hines Ward, Max Starks, LaMarr Woodley, and Ryan Clark.  Some interesting notes, Woodley discusses the dirtiest player he has matched up against, Clark talks Troy Polamalu, and Starks sings.

XIII- A pretty interesting article was written by Sports Illustrated recently.  They set out to determine the best player by number from 00 all the way to 99.  I will start off by saying they fail pretty tremendously by putting Tom Brady over Terry Bradshaw for #12, citing he won in a 'tougher' era. You know, "tougher" where there are rules giving defenders a fourth of the QB's body they can hit legally.  Anyway, 8 Steelers make the list, but you will have to read to find out who.

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XIV- If you were not following Steelers news yesterday, you may have missed the memo that Maurkice Pouncey took all of the snaps with the 1st team.   This weekend is going to be a big test for him because he will likely start and face off with Jamal Williams, who is old but still a very solid NT.  I think if Pouncey keeps up his high motor and great play we might see the Justin Hartwig ask to be cut before the roster trimming so he could potentially sign on with another team.

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XL- Daniel Sepulveda took all of the Kickoffs against the Giants and did not 'WOW' me.  Tomlin must have liked what he saw or wanted to see more because he is giving Robopunter the chance again to kickoff this week.  Over at the Steelersdepot they checked the hang time of his kicks, which except for the first one, were about equal to JefF Reed's hang time.  If they are going to have the same distance and hang time, the Steelers would be wiser to go with Sepulveda because he is a much better athlete.

XLIII- In case you missed it yesterday, Troy Polamalu did an interview with Mike & Mike in the morning.  His Hairness talks about acclimating himself to NFL game speed, the pain of sitting out last season, and a few other topics.  It always cracks me up hearing such a ferocious football player have such a calm voice and attitude.  Troy says he feels 100% healthy and that definitely makes me feel great about our defense this year.

 

Side note: I set up a NFL Pick'em league yesterday and I want everyone to join.  If we get enough people I will put a prize toward first place, maybe a Steelers jersey of your choosing or some other Steelers paraphernalia that I decide on.

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Bradshaw > Brady

WAHT A CROCK OF SHIT. Pardon my profanity. I went through that list yesterday and when I got to #12 it was a no brainer to me that Bradshaw should be #1. When I saw Brady I nearly screamed out loud at my office. Tougher era my butt. You ever see Tom Brady get slammed on his head by an opposing defender?

I was pleased to see 8 Steelers made the list. It was pretty cool to see how many others made first runner up. That’s almost 10% of the total list made up of current or former Steelers!

"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason

by chewiesteeler on Aug 26, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

The only way Brady>Bradshaw is because of all the mancrushes the media has on him.

i know he has played injured, but come on now, how can they say this is a “tougher” era than when Bradshaw played. It is only tougher on the defense because they have to be careful how the hit the QB

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Aug 26, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm in the Pick 'Em...

My team is Dennis Picks… son.

I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 26, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Bradshaw vs. Brady

I actually think this is pretty close. I think the reasoning they list is crap. Harder time period my @ss. However, I think what Tom Brady has done is amazing in it’s own right.

Terry had a lot of hall of fame players around him, and I understand that you can’t quantify how much he helped them be great versus how they helped him be great, but who did Tom Brady have around him that was Hall of Fame worthy when he won 3 super bowls? Vinateri? He’s got Moss now, but no super bowl with Moss. He’s won with scrub WR’s and no-name running back. Corey Dillon was good, but not HOF worthy.

Bradshaw had 2 HOF receivers, a HOF running back, and generally played with the best defense to roam the planet.

Feel free to yell and curse at me but I think I can see a valid argument for either player. Terry had to call his own plays, the rules were much harder on the passing game etc… But Tom has done a lot with less. And I know about spygate, I don’t believe it throws out his accomplishments.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm..

Remember, Brady also had the “cheat” sheets and the passing game rules have changed a lot…

A man is innocent untill proven guilty...Even if it's Ben Roethlisberger!
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by nycsteelerfan on Aug 26, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mentioned both of those...

And I don’t think you can throw out what he’s done with those things.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 26, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brady still had to actually throw the ball though...

Having the extra info certainly helped out, no doubt, but to think it ws the only reason they succeeded is not totally accurate. He still had to make the plays, the receivers still had to make the catches… they still had to play the games and win.

I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 26, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

If that’s all it took Belicheck would have won with the Browns. Turns out you still need talent to make the plays.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 26, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bradshaw called his own plays… checkmate.

by lloyd95 on Aug 26, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brady Bradshaw is a tricky arguement...

Becasue comparing players in different eras is never easy, and almost always pointless.

Bradshaw played in an era when passing wasn’t as prolific, but it was during his career that the rules eased in favor of the offenses. Not surprisingly, Bradshaw’s yardage increased and held steady after the Mel Blount rules were put into place.

He finished his career with a 107-51 record, while having the help of the greatest defensive unit in the history of the game.

Brady plays in an era where passing has almost overtaken the run, and had what could be argued as one of the greatest passing seasons in the history of football not too long ago. Remember what is fresh in our memory always seems better to boot.

He has a 97-30 record, with the help of a sneaky coach.

Brady is the better passer, and passing is what the NFL is these days. So he got the nod. I won’t lose any sleep over it.

I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I would go with Brady over Bradshaw

The talent that Bradshaw had around him was truly all world. It took Bradshaw 6 or 7 years to become elite.

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by idiscgolftexas on Aug 26, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The two best player by jersey numbers that annoyed me the most

Brady over Bradshaw at 12, and Deacon Jones over Mean Joe Greene at 75.

by worldtrip on Aug 26, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Yah

Joe Greene was one of the best football player ever, regardless of position. Hard to leave him off.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 26, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deacon Jones had close to 300 sacks...

By both his count and the count of the reporters who covered him. (He played before sack was an official stat.)

I totally agree with Joe Greene being deserving though, he was certainly one of the best ever.

I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 26, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but Greene could punch and O-lineman in the gut better than Deacon Jones

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 27, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

But Deacon could punch a linemen in the head...

It was his patented head slap that made him so effective.

I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 27, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

So could Mean Joe

If they hadn’t changed the rules

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 27, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know...

By the way, I think they ignored a lot of that stuff for some time after the rules change anyway.

I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 27, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never saw Deacon Jones

play in a game. All I have seen is endless highlights and numerous interviews. He was seemingly unblockable. He was not only mean, he was genuinely angry. He hated opponents and wanted to hurt them. He still spews venom in interviews. I can’t say I completely disagree with the choice of him over Mean Joe and #75 is my all-time favorite Steeler. What a close call to make. They were both absolute nightmares to opponents.

"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason

by chewiesteeler on Aug 26, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

deacon jones coined the term sack… he is joe greenes daddy.

by klompus on Aug 27, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brady is the best QB ever to play the game

when he has all the other team’s plays.

grain of salt

by PaulMorel on Aug 26, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

busted!!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 27, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't around to watch Bradshaw...

but, aside from loyalty to the Steelers, I am not too upset that they gave Brady the nod. Agree with ChicagoSteeler about the reasoning being lousy though…

I DID expect Greene to nab #75, and while Deacon Jones wasn’t a bad choice, I’m not sure it’s accurate.

Finally, I think there were a couple pushes where they already had tons of Steelers on the list, and so they went with guys from other teams, and guys who stood out on less talented teams.

I will say, SF being my first-love team, I understood why Ray-Ray the murderer got #52, but the fact that they didn’t even MENTION Patrick Willis was lame; granted he’s relatively young, but the dude is THAT good…had SF grabbed Timmons a couple years back, Willis would have likely been a Steeler, and the 412 would have drafted the two best backers in that draft.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Aug 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

if pouncey does well this next game i think hartwig could be trade bait

didn’t denver need a center?

he’s a serviceable center with vet experience and his contract isn’t too bad to pick up from the receiving team’s stand point. it’s a 3 year contract at about 2mil/year and the receiving team wouldn’t have any cap penalty if they choose to cut him down the road (if the cap is reinstated)

i think it would be nice to keep him from a talent stand point (having a vet with experience to back up our TWENTYONE yo rookie) but from the way it sounds hartwig won’t be too cool about becoming a backup.

by t1mmy10 on Aug 26, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hartwig at guard?

All the issues of ego and demotion notwithstanding, would he be capable there? I mean its not like we have depth to burn up front. Sort of a moot point given his apparent mood on the topic.

From same article, no B-mac in Denver game, more opportunity to see up Lewis against 1st teamers.

by thedonger on Aug 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Hartwig isn't all that egotisitcal.

I don’t think he would have that much of a problem being a Guard. I just wanna know how successful he would be at Guard, has he ever played it? I mean surely going from Center to Guard isn’t as difficult as going from Guard to Tackle but still.

by shleeve on Aug 26, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless I am mistaken...

He played gueard for three gaems as a rookie. I didn’t see him listed there anywhere else.

It was his apparent unwillingness to move to guard in Carolina that had him end up in the Burgh to begin with. That said, if it’s between riding pine and playing guard, I find it hard to believe he’d chose pine.

I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 26, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You all need to get on twitter

From Ken Larid, Hartwig speaking:

Obviously [Pouncey] is taking reps with the 1’s, you can read into it however you want. All I can do is focus on working. I’m not going to concede anything; whatever my role is with this team, I want to be a Steeler, we’ll see how things shake out.

Laird adds:

Hartwig says playing guard an option never presented to him by the team, but “they know I’m capable of playing guard if they ask me to”

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Aug 26, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

F Twitter...

But thanks for the info.

I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 26, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta love it

this is one of the great reasons for twitter

Steelers football is supposed to be 60 mins, recently it's been 45. The additional 15 are currently under construction.

by tannofsteel84 on Aug 26, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm glad he said that

bouchette and lolley have been reporting he wouldnt be okay about riding the pine & ALL the news reports before this said hartwig refused to comment on pouncey getting all the first team stats, thus implying he wasn’t happy about it.

and i’ll never get on twitter : )

by t1mmy10 on Aug 26, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

I only have twitter to follow Jim Wexell and Ken Laird. I’ve never tweeted.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 26, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good for Hartwig and the Steelers. Way to be a good teammate Justin.

by worldtrip on Aug 26, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

McNabb over Paul Hornung (#5) is BS.

As well as not even mentioning the immortal Bubby Brister at #6.

I didn’t count 8 Steelers. Troy, Bus, Lambert, Ham. Others were mentioned but didn’t make the cut.

by JHolmes on Aug 26, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Blount and Greenwood made it. Joe Greene lost out to Deacon Jones, which I guess I can live with. I’d rather call it a tie. The other two were Rod Woodson and Kevin Greene.

by prophicide on Aug 26, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on McNabb

" Just go and lay your hand on a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, and then I think you'll finally understand"

" In America" Charlie Daniels Band

by idiscgolftexas on Aug 26, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy crap

I would have voted for Brady before, but I can’t help but notice the difference between a quarterback who literally smashed head first into multiple defenders, and a quarterback who had a rule named after him because he’s a great big poof.

by Weirtonite on Aug 26, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yessir, Bradshaw was a real football player, not a prima donna.

You saw Brad do about 5 things in this clip that Brady has never been able to do in the NFL.

by Billy52 on Aug 26, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brady

is exactly what the quote “but skirts on the QB’s” is talking about. What a wuss.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 27, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

+33

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Aug 27, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Brady uses the rules to his advantage

He looks to the refs for the calls cause he knows he can get them and they will help him win the game.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 27, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking as a child of the 80's...

I am thinking about changing my vote. I would have given it (unhappily) to Brady before, but having viewed that video, holy cr%p! I didn’t know Bradshaw could scramble that effectively, and it’s one of the few times I’ve seen consecutive highlights of Lynn Swann, who was amazing. That avoiding the sack play around 1:31 actually looks a helluva lot like the current Steelers quarterback…

It’s at least a tie between Brady and Bradshaw, and I’m thinking what they should have done was not included active players on the list. Best to judge a career fully only in retrospect.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Aug 26, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Many parallels between BB and Brad

Both guys being strong enough to pull away from the defense and make big plays downfield. But where Bradshaw absolutely excelled was when plays broke down. Under extreme pressure, Bradshaw seemed to have a little switch that turned on and, more often than not, he’d make something big out of nothing. In my book, that’s what made him one of the all-time greats.

by Billy52 on Aug 27, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like someone else I know .. .. .. hmmmm

"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason

by chewiesteeler on Aug 27, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great video

I never knew Bradshaw was such a good runner.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Aug 27, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

by my geekameter

he ran 30 yards in unofficially 3.3 seconds. Jamarcus Russell was a wanabe Bradshaw. Both were super athlectic but Bradshaw put it all together. Russell didn’t.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Aug 27, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

one tough mutha'

the guy did not have an ounce of quit in his body – could you imagine brady or peyyyy-ton fighting off defenders with the left arm and heaving a 30yd bullet w/ the right?

the killer thing is, for most of those passes, the receivers were covered. TB either put it in the only spot the defender couldn’t reach, or put it where his guy could adjust and make a play for the ball.

sign me up – bradshaw for #12

by lamarr_the_BEAST! on Aug 27, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

WTF

No redman on the list? Clearly somebody is asking for an epic beatdown.

by Mechem on Aug 26, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

This, gentlemen, is why #58 is owned by the Steelers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hae6fMCoBrs&feature=related

I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!

-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now

by Steel Spike on Aug 27, 2010 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Mendy owes Lambert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aImrTEezP8w&NR=1
Watch closely at the 1:47 mark.

To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.

by alfresco on Aug 28, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha! I actually misread what you said

I watched the video thinking you said "Mendy OWNS Lambert. I was kinda mad when I watched it, so I missed you saying that about the 1:47 mark. Who was that Mad Jack stole that pick from?

I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!

-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now

by Steel Spike on Aug 29, 2010 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like the Broncos

The QB is wearing 12, not sure what year the clip was from though.

  1. 12 for the Broncos during Jack’s reign:
    1974 -1975 Charley Johnson
    1976-1979 Craig Penrose
    1980 -1984 none

What software do you use to edit pics? I don’t really want to give photobucket my name and address to edit a few pics.

To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.

by alfresco on Aug 29, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like edit how?

Johnny_S would be the one to ask about pic editing, really. He’s a PhotoShop guy. I, myself, just use MS Paint, because I’m not all fancy like Johnny is…

I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!

-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now

by Steel Spike on Aug 29, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Calling Johnny_S

Mainly just want to crop (I guess that is the right term, cut unwanted part of pictures off) and re-size some of my pics, for now. Might get into more later, like adding text like you and fever do. I see Adobe elements is 100 bucks, is it worth it?
I wouldn’t mind spending 40, just to not give photobucket my name and address, so my mailbox doesn’t fill up with junk mail.
What do you suggest?

To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.

by alfresco on Aug 29, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can crop, resize and add text in Microsoft Paint.

Paint comes with every (I think) version of Windows. I just got a new laptop, and it has Windows 7, but it’s sure to come with the older versions.

I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!

-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now

by Steel Spike on Aug 29, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robopunter's kickoffs...

Johnny, I too wasn’t that impressed with his kickoffs. I noticed as well that his kicks wern’t going into the end zone when I went to camp and it carried over into the Giants game.

I would also take his kickoffs in Denver with a grain of salt…..the altitude in the Mile-High Stadium creates more distance…Jason Elam would attest to that fact.

Having said that, he is the better athlete and provides a better overall kickoff coverage package vs Jeff Reed.

by ToonaSteel on Aug 27, 2010 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Precisely

With Sputnik on the field during kickoffs, the Steelers have 11 potential tacklers on the field at once. A perfect example of that occurred during the Giants game. If that was Jeff Reed trying to make that tackle, he would have been on his a$$ well before he even got near the return man. Result = another KO return TD for our opponent and much of Pittsburgh jumping from the Clemente Bridge.

"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason

by chewiesteeler on Aug 27, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do I get to Clemente Bridge agian?

A right on 6th?

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Aug 27, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, perhaps they'd need to find a higher bridge:

"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason

by chewiesteeler on Aug 27, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

that just looks fun

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Aug 27, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

like this one?

<img src="http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DWV%2BBridges%26ei%3Dutf-8%26fr%3Dyfp-t-701&w=550&h=412&imgurl=media-files.gather.com%2Fimages%2Fd331%2Fd317%2Fd744%2Fd224%2Fd96%2Ff3%2Ffull.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gather.com%2FviewImage.jsp%3FfileId%3D3096224744317331&size=106KB&name=new+river%2Cwv%2Cbri…&p=WV+Bridges&oid=81f89a37e1c1b494404a536c78f67872&fr2=&no=10&tt=5060&sigr=11rvrn7p3&sigi=121gdog49&sigb=12fvjb5am"/>

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Aug 27, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell?

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Aug 27, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

like this one?

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Aug 27, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um, yep, that ought to do it!

Someone please strap me to a bungee chord on that one!!

"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason

by chewiesteeler on Aug 27, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

or a parachute

because I’m pretty sure thats the New River Bridge

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Aug 27, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

in WV?

I’ve got family around there somewhere. But I can’t stand all that banjo music on the river.

by SteelersVT on Aug 27, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You aren't Ned Beatty or Burt Reynolds are you?

You’ll only have to squeal if you’re Ned.

I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!

-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now

by Steel Spike on Aug 27, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about this one?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 27, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

where is that?

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Aug 27, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

France

It’s the highest in the world. They have picture of it in the clouds somewhere.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd just use the bay bridge

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Aug 27, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to cross that bridge all the time

I had friends that lived in up the road. i think the apartments are called Alleghany commons. A couple of friends of mine did the jump. I wasn’t drunk enough to land of debris

Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Aug 27, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

#52

Ray Lewis over Mike Webster? I might be biased, but seriously I think that is just wrong.

by bandwagonshmandwagon on Aug 27, 2010 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, you're biased...

But it’s okay, I think we all understand.

I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 27, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, Webster was incomparable.

Lewis is just lucky he didn’t have to face Webster. Webby absolutely buried some of the best linebackers in the league on a regular basis.

by Billy52 on Aug 27, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  


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