Ask a Panthers' fan- Preseason game four
It's the Steelers and the Panthers in the final preseason game of 2010. Johnny_S was gracious enough to stop by Cat Scratch Reader (SB Nation's Carolina Panthers blog) to answer our community's questions about Thursday's game, so I thought it only fair to return the favor.
We've done this for the Ravens, Jets and Titans fanbases and it always seems like we get good discussions out of it. So fire away!
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What does your WR depth outside of Steve Smith look like?
Also, how confident are you with Matt Moore this year? And is Clausen turning heads or just coming along nicely as a rookie?
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
- On the WRs: Lots of promise, nothing to show for it yet. The WRs across the board have been underwhelming. When Muhsin Muhammad retired it was up to Jarrett or one of the rookies to reach up and grab the spot, nobody has done so yet. It’s worrying to be sure. There is growing sentiment that we need to find a vet like Laverneus Coles to help out until Jarrett or LaFell prove they’re ready.
- On Moore: I’m confident, because there’s no reason not to be. Over his 4 starts last year he was 3-1 as a starter, and finished the season with a QB rating over 90 in games he started. If he doesn’t turn the ball over we can win football games.
- On Clausen: He’s turning heads to be sure. I think it’s safe to say that a lot of fans were dismayed by the pick and saw it as a vote of no confidence in a promising young player. Couple that with all the reports of Clausen’s locker room issues and problems with teammates and it didn’t look good. But, he’s been everything we could ask for and more out of a rookie. He’s remaining quiet, looks humble and doesn’t seem to think he’s owed anything. He’s been working with an atrocious backup OL and the 2nd and 3rd team WRs and looked good.
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by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you think
You all will be playing the Waiver wire to find a vet WR? What about someone like Antonio Brown?
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 31, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
hush
let him raid the Chargers PS.
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 31, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
shhhhh
hes our little secret
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly
"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Aug 31, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant Antonio Bryant
You know when you have one thing on your mind and you are talking about something else and you say whats on your mind instead of what you are talking about? I just did that
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 31, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
yes Antonio Bryant
much better choice! =-}
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 31, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
This game will really be the litmus test. If the guys look halfway competent then the Panthers wont spend the money on another WR… but if they look lackluster I see the possibility there.
This is the last chance for some of these guys… we’ll see how bad they want it.
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by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant Antonio Bryant BTW
Mental slip there
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 31, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
probably last chance for Jarett
he was really good in USC.
Healing from my new tattoos
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
panthers
How do you feel about Marty Herny (?) basically forfeiting this season? I think it comes from the owner, not wanting to spend before the CBA talks so it looks bad. You have a great running game, but no answer for the passing game, what are your expectations for Matt Moore? Will Jimmy have the starting role by the end of the season? This team had their first offensive touchdown in the preseason last week, no clear option for the #2 receiver and no one knows just how good the defense will be. Can you explain to me why this team took Armanti Edwards in the 3rd round? I know he was good at ASU but you could have gotten him in the 6th. One thing is for sure though Jon Beason is a beast.
Steelers football is supposed to be 60 mins, recently it's been 45. The additional 15 are currently under construction.
Oh yea
And do you think Brandon Lefell will take Dwyane Jarretts job this season?
Steelers football is supposed to be 60 mins, recently it's been 45. The additional 15 are currently under construction.
by tannofsteel84 on Aug 31, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
- On Hurney: I don’t think that is the case at all. It doesn’t have anything to do with forfeiting and saving money because the Panthers ultimately paid more out to cut the guys we did than it would have been to keep them on the roster. It was about correcting past financial mistakes with no cap repercussion while preparing for 2011 and beyond. They Panthers didn’t spend money because we have extensions looming for DeAngelo Williams, Ryan Kalil, Thomas Davis, Richard Marshall and Matt Moore looming. As it stands it looks like we’ll have right around $70 million in cap space if a new CBA is worked out. 3rd cheapest roster in the league right now, and that means we have a good shot at keeping our talent.
- See above for Moore.
- Clausen: I don’t think he gets the job by the end of the season unless the wheels completely come off. I just don’t see it happening. Next year is another story entirely.
- The defense looks pretty good thus far. We’re hoping it keeps up, but they’ve dominated the three teams we’ve faced thus far (Ravens, Jets, Titans).
- Armanti Edwards: Our local beat writer reported (and was verified by the Indianapolis Star) that the Colts had planned to take Armanti Edwards 12 picks after where we ultimately traded up to get him. Edwards was the player it seemed every team had on their radar, but they were all playing chicken to see who would pull the trigger. There was no way he would have made it to the 6th round given Indy’s desire to take him. It remains to be seen whether he can live up to his draft position, but he is a huge upside prospect.
- Jarrett v. LaFell: Ultimately I think he does take him job, but he has to work on his hands to hit the next level. Jarrett can’t get separation, but he can catch… LaFell get’s separation but drops easy passes.
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by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd just like to say I disagree on LaFell dropping easy passes.
That’s a hot topic over at our blog site. I think he’s only dropped one. The others were not catchable in my opinion.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 31, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't think it was a 'hot topic'
Most agree that he has been underwhelming thus far compared to what we were hearing out of camp.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I'm not the only one who thinks he's gotten a bad rap.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 31, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Losing Peppers was big, but seems like you found a nice replacement for him in Hardy.
What is the coaching staff saying about him? Are they high on him, or is it that he looks that good because he goes against the 2s and 3s of other teams?(He might have gone against some 1s, but I can’t remember at the moment)
Things can always be worse....
Extremely high on him. This was always going to be a ‘sack by committee’ scenario to fill Peppers’ void.
Nobody expected the entire cadre of DE’s to break out the way they did. Right now we have 5 different DEs who have had games with 2 sacks or over each. Greg Hardy is definitely the future at the position, but this season expect to see Everette Brown (2nd round pick from 2009) and Charles Johnson (3rd round pick from 2007) to be the impact players for most downs, with Hardy being a 3rd down pass rusher.
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by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Is J Lehman still on your roster?
He was a beast at Illinois. If you still have him, how has he looked?
How does your cornerback depth shake out, does Captain Munnerlyn see the field this year?
Any chance you cut Mike Goodson? Always liked him.
What’s it like actually having a fullback?
I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 31, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions
- Lehman is no longer on the roster. He’s in Minnesota now.
- Munnerlyn is cemented as our 3rd CB we used him a lot last year, and I expect the same.
- Goodson will stay on the roster too much upside to cut him now, he’s just raw.
- Brad Hoover was a darn good fullback, one of the most underrated in the league. That being said, Fiametta can catch out of the backfield in a way Hoover couldn’t, and that will help our passing game.
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by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks...
Kind of figured Lehman moved on.
Fiametta will be great for you guys, ‘Cuse FB’s can play.
I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 31, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Best player who will be cut or PS
Every year there are some special talents who aren’t quite ready to crack the 53 but seem like they are too good to lose. Who fits the bill for the Panthers this year?
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 31, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
Great question
I think the Panthers will be trying to sneak QB Hunter Cantwell onto the practice squad this year. He’s raw, but he has a howitzer for an arm and just needs some maturation.
There are several good WRs that I think could get cut because of the draft commitments we made to the position. Kenny Moore, Oliver Young, Trent Guy… all three have a reasonable chance of being cut and all have their issues, but they are the kind of players who could be special in the right situation.
Rashawn Jackson at FB too. it seems unlikely the Panthers carry two into the season and he was far and away the best FB in the 2010 draft, just went undrafted due to the depth.
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by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Rashawn Jackson
well you should be able to PS him without the Steelers taking him. Our OC doesn’t believe in using a FB when a TE can be substituted.
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 31, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Hang on, TE and FB are different positions?
I thought FB was just a was a TE lined up. Like SE or FL for a WR.
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Our OC really doesn't like to use FBs
When he is forced to he will try to use a TE or a largish RB, unless it is 4th and 1. Then he will call an empty backfield.
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 31, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You forgot the MeMo sweep
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Sean Ware is a UDFA OLB who runs in the 4.4s.
For whatever reason he hasn’t been able to translate his athleticism into momentum up the depth chart. He could at least be a good special teams cover guy for some team.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 31, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
How do your cheerleaders rank with the Washington Redskins cheerleaders
We need some proof if you say they are better. :)
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
though not surprising
considering the source :-)
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 31, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know... rank for yourself. Here's what ours bring to the table.

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by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
need some close ups
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
This post just got awesome
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 31, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry in advance this photo is so big... couldn't find a smaller one

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by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
any way to make it bigger?
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 31, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
dude
as I was refreshing this page I knew that’s what would show up…
+1
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 31, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be a great poast
Top 10 TWSS’s…
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 31, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I volunteer you to go through all TWSS's
and compile the list.
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
that seems doable
Do I give credit to the person that said TWSS….or to the person that provoked the TWSS??
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 31, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
both, but the person who says TWSS deserves more credit
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
got it....
might be bigger than 10 though…might have to go 20…
oh and TWHS’s don’t count…only TWSS’s
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 31, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
N'awwwww
My best ever was a TWBS
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
ben said?
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 31, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
ok all is fair game
makes for more entertainment…
Although I have a feeling there will be massive debate…
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 31, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think someone (probably Arn) will be pissed if he aint number one
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not ture
I don’t even want to be ranked
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
come to think of it
I dont know I feel like doing it…that’s “a lot” of research. I’m off all next week…maybe I’ll find some time…
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
I was joking Arn
but as the creator of the obsession you should be there
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Sep 1, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
what else ya go? :)
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Mother of God...
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 31, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
dang it cut the girl off on the right
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 31, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You know... I can't help but feel like for all the cheerleaders they still lose due to this:

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
do we need her?
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 31, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
she's pretty nice
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a shame too, she was doing a very special cheer for me at my party;-)
Things can always be worse....
I just fell in love
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 31, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
How about

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
For all the ass men here at BTSC

Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Sep 1, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Or

Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Sep 1, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Now THAT's what I'm talkin a bout fellas
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
i R learning
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Sep 2, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me
of a school teacher I dated in Hampton. Blonde with a donk.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Gotta admit
Thats a white girl with a black booty above. Pop, lock and drop it
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Sep 2, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I see that
I can’t see the one you posted though. It’s just a box with a red "x’. But the X is kinda sexy
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Can you see either?
They show up for me
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Sep 2, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I see
double bubble zero up there.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
<3
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Sep 2, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
god bless america….
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly
"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 2, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing like a uniform that is 2 sizes too small
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
looks liek a drunk party girl
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh god
Hope Ben doesn’t read the blog
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Aug 31, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
She's from the Titans
Too bad we play them in Tennessee this year…
To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
she got cut from the Redskins squad
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 31, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
by the way
I found out she is still a Redskins cheerleader not a Titans cheerleader at all.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Oh
the redskins must have changed their uniforms…
To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
No but the cheerleaders have different uniforms
I’ll send you to the site if I have time to go out and get the link.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Ok, research isn't so bad...
So far these support my theory. I remember seeing that pic, thought it SI, still looking…

To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
Beeeeeeeeeewbs
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Sep 2, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
from here
http://www.titansonline.com/team/cheerleaders/2010brooke/
To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
hi brooke
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Sep 2, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
she is single
I call shotgun
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Sep 3, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I need more proof. :)
I heard she was a Falcons cheerleader too.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Thought you may say that...
Please notice the earrings here

To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
and at this site
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0aS5cvZ62x1oB
To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
I still don't believe it
How much are Titans’ tickets? Wait…no she’s a buccaneer cheerlear I have proof. but while I get it prove she’s a Titan cheerleader. That uniform is too small to get an idea.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Actually I got what I needed... her name
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Oh yeah, it's all about you : )
How about that link when you get a chance?
To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
I'm lying
Don’t you get it? I’m trying to get him to supply pics. shhhhhhhh
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I still don't believe it
and I believe she’s a Redskin cheerleader still. Those pictures were from Halloween. She dressed as a Titan cheerleader. More proof please.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Glad you suffered through the research to provide us with accurate information
Things can always be worse....
oh no you didn't
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 31, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
now that is a perfect end
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
he made it his avatar lol
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
nice...I sometime wish we had some
but we always have great football
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that I can see. We’re cutting and shuffling as it is to find the right guys for the 53. Hard to imagine there are going to be any gems we let slip through.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you
You guys usually run the ball so well that I was hoping we could steal a road-grader from you. That hope, however, is not realistic b.c. I don’t recall the last time we signed someone from another teams PS…. except for Sunny Harris, but I see that as getting back our draftee rather than taking one from another team.
I'm your huckleberry
Compare a young Ryan Khalil to...
our own young Maurkice Pouncey (if you’ve seen him at C)
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness, but [Thank God] I am not a government official" Francis Wolcott in "Deadwood", Season 2
by Flying Polamalus on Aug 31, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
Pouncey is 10 lbs heavier and 2 inches taller. From seeing him play I think he has a little more power than Kalil, but Kalil has more technique.
Time will tell. I thin Pouncey was a great pick where you got him, but I really haven’t seen enough to truly evaluate him against Kalil.
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by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, mate
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness, but [Thank God] I am not a government official" Francis Wolcott in "Deadwood", Season 2
by Flying Polamalus on Aug 31, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I think I've already discussed this with a few of you guys
but what is the situation with Richard Marshall and Thomas Davis?
Were they tendered or re-signed? If they were tendered, how happy are they?
I am particularly interested in Marshall because he is the best young CB in the league not named Revis IMO.
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
Marshall was tendered for one year for $1.759 million. Davis was tendered for one year for $3.268 million. Carolina isn’t really signing anyone long term until the new bargaining agreement is inked. I wouldn’t consider either one of them locks to be resigned after this year. Marshall may ask for too much money for his talent level, and Davis has injury concerns.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 31, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
What would you say Marshall’s talent level is? I think he has potential to be a top 5 CB. That said, Top 5 CB money is getting ridiculous now, look at Nnamdi and Revis.
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Gamble is much better than him.
I’ve seen Marshall blow too many coverages deep. He’s a good corner, and certainly starting quality at the pro level, but he’s not worth top 5 money. I’d love to have him back. He can make plays for sure, but they’re already overpaying Gamble. As good as Gamble is, he is making too much. I don’t want them overpaying another corner.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 31, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I didn't read the second question.
Marshall has been very unhappy about the situation. He held out for quite some time before signing his tender. He thinks he’s worth more than his $1.759 million. I haven’t heard anything about Davis being unhappy.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 31, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll trade you
William Gay for Marshall?
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 31, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Marshall comes back for a reasonable price.
If not, Captain Munnerlyn will probably start, and that’s cool with me too ‘cause he’s from my alma mater.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 31, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you prepared for Isaac Redman?
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
this is true
I’m just curious what ridiculous and far-fetched response I’ll get…
"Who is Joe Namath? This is a guy who, if he played in the league today, I'd probably just go hit him late and see what he did, just for the hell of it. Joe Namath can go to hell; he can kiss my ass." - Greg Lloyd, after NBC commentator Joe Namath accused Lloyd of playing dirty.
by count'em_six on Aug 31, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a good question
Then got sidetracked by all the pictures above….now I cant remember it
Stay tuned
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Aug 31, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
:D
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Sep 1, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
How many of your cheerleaders will dress for the game?
To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
I figured that you would be more interested
in how many of them wouldn’t be dressed.
Guys, come on. I’m getting a repetitive stress injury from scrolling past all your pictures….
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's your favorite, momma

I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!
-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now
Thanks, fever -
I appreciate you looking out for me…
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 2, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know it's not the best pic of his face
I was trying to find one of him with his shirt off for ya, and was tired of posting the same pic over and over, so I went with muscles, and didn’t pay attention to his expression…
Fine then…here’s the same pic again….

I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!
-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now
Will your ipad
display the keyboard layout that is on the left side of this pic? If so, that down arrow key (just below the right shift key) may work as a scroll key.

To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
I don't have any stress injuries
but I have a sudden urge to take blood pressure pills.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
It seems like some of you
are having LIBF (ala Dave Barry.) Yes, Steeler_, I’m looking straight at you : )
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 3, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
And of course you don't have any stress injuries -
they are caused by scrolling quickly…
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 3, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I scroll sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
TWSS
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 3, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
A question near to our hearts.
How do you think Delhomme does for the Browns this year? He’ll have a good line, that might be all though.
Also what positions do you have talented depth, where can we expect our back-ups to be tested?
Lastly, where do you see your team finishing this year?
Delhomme will probably do fine.
He’s an average QB, and will put up average numbers. Getting a fresh start on another team will probably help him get back to his old self.
Right now, I’d say defensive end is the deepest position on the team. Carolina has the number one or two defense is virtually every category this preseason, and they’re a big reason why. Carolina is first in sacks. Charles Johnson, Everette Brown, Greg Hardy, and Eric Moore have all taken up residence in opposing backfields. Tyler Brayton, who won’t be playing until the regular season, had two sacks himself in one quarter before getting injured in the first game.
I think Carolina will be anywhere from 9-7 to 11-5. At this point, it really depends on how Matt Moore plays, or Clausen if he replaces Moore during the season. Moore hasn’t done as well this preseason as he did at the end of last year. They don’t have to have a good passing game to win. They’ve won in the past solely on their running game, and Carolina’s schedule is much softer than normal this year. However, to be a playoff team, they will need Moore to do well.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Sep 1, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Really 9-7 or 11-5?
That’s a fan!
The Black and Gold are going undefeated as well. The Pirates will win the rest of their games this season and only finish 5 games out of the wild card.
R.I.P. Mad Dog
by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 2, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it's unreasonable.
Carolina was 8-8 last year with Delhomme having a 50 something QB rating. Moore only played in 5 of the games. Plus, the schedule was one of the toughest in the league last year. This year, it’s one of the softest.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I will caution you
to watch any optimism based on an easy schedule. That’s what we thought last year, before the November implosion…
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 3, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Cut him some slack, guys.
Optimism is what the pre-season is all about. The cold hard realities will hit all of us soon enough.
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 3, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
One thing you have to watch about Delhomme are those fourth quarter comebacks. You can’t go to sleep on that guy, ‘cause he’ll sneak back up on you.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Sep 1, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen
"I wore my purple camo to the practice, but they wouldn’t let me into the autograph zone. No clue why."- Mr MaLoR
by kick him in the head on Sep 2, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Delhomme will be in a west coast offense. Not requiring him to make any deep throws will definitely help him in Cleveland, he’s also used to having the tall possession receiver, and the smaller faster receiver in Smith and Muhsin Muhammad, so working with Mohammad Massaquoi and Josh Cribbs wont be entirely foreign, even if neither is as talented.
Defensive end looks to be the deepest position right now with four guys looking like starters right now.
Floor is 6-10 and the ceiling is 12-4. We have a favorable schedule on paper, but I’m always wary of relying on that. Basically if Matt Moore plays like he did at the end of last season, we have a WR or two step up, and the defense continues looking the way they do then there’s no good reason we can’t win the division. If these three areas all falter it’s going to be a long year.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
That's a span of almost half the year.
You must not be one to go out on a limb. I do believe Carolina’s record will be between, or equal to, 6 to 12 wins though lol.
Four defensive end starters? Naw, I think they have five legitimate guys there. Who do you leave off?
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Eric Moore. He’s been great in the preseason and will get a roster spot, but he is no NFL starter.
Brayton, Hardy, Brown and Johnson could all start.
As for the record, I’ve been resolute that I think the Panthers will go 11-5, but if I’m going to be realistic with another fan base I always feel it prudent to give them a best case, worst case scenario… and right now the Panthers are on a knife edge where they could be very good, or fairly average.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I dunno dude.
I don’t see any difference between Moore and Johnson. I think they’re the same defensive end. Both are big, explosive guys who can get in the backfield multiple ways, and are strong and fast enough to shut down runs.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Charles Johnson is NFL tested against NFL starters. He has 10 sacks the last two seasons while he was a backup and led the Panthers in snap to sack ratio. He is arguably the Panthers best DE right now.
Eric Moore has 2 sacks in his 5 year NFL career. Granted he’s had an impressive preseason, but I don’t think he’s anywhere close to Johnson on skill level.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I don't know what his problem was on other teams.
All I can go by is what I’ve seen him do on this one. Backups or not, he has been completely dominate. He would’ve had two or three times as many sacks as he has if someone else hadn’t gotten to the QB a fraction of a second sooner. It’s not unheard of for a player to switch teams and do better. I really hope he gets his share of snaps this season, ’cause that would be one deep player rotation. None of the five would probably even be sweating by the end of the game.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
If you’d like we can start a DE discussion on CSR if you’d rather. I really don’t want to clog up this topic.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I don't mind
It is interesting to see the opposition from their fans pov,
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 2, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Hows the pass rush looking?
Guys like Everette Brown stepping it up with Peppers absence? How are you feeling about your teams defense? A while back it was a really solid, well rounded unit, whereas these days, some might even call it a weakness? Thoughts?
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
Pass rush is looking insanely good right now. I’m definitely of the mindset that Julius Peppers is one of the most overrated players in the NFL (even when he was a Panther) but you don’t replace double digit sacks overnight.
As it stands the Panthers are 1st in the NFL in preseason right now with 18 total sacks. Of these 18 sacks 13 have come from our DEs (3 to Everette Brown, 3 to Greg Hardy, 3 to Eric Moore, 2 to Charles Johnson, 2 to Tyler Brayton). Everette Brown needed to come into camp bigger and stronger and he added 15 lbs of muscle to his frame and it’s making all the difference in the world.
Watch out for Greg Hardy as a backup too… it’s not just Panther fans who think he could be the steal of the draft as the 6th round DE out of ole Miss has posted 12 tackles and 3 sacks this preseason.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
Last year's big problem: Defensive Tackle
What have the Panthers done to address that from last season? Things got so bad you were picking up our Practice Squadders last year! ;)
Did Carolina even do anything in the offseason to address their problems there? I saw a couple of nice picks on Defensive Ends in the draft this year, I think you have a couple of potentials in Hardy and Norwood, though I would assume Norwood may end up at OLB? Maybe on the Strong side?
Defensive tackle was the area most fans thought the focus would be on during the draft, but the organization didn’t see the value at the position compared to others so they didn’t pick one.
Last year we had starting NT Maake Kemoeatu go down in camp so the team scrambled to trade for Louis Leonard of Cleveland, right now he looks to start at NT. We also traded with Kansas City for former 3rd round pick Tank Tyler who looked lost in a 3-4 system and figures to be in the mix. We brought in Ed Johnson formerly with Indianapolis who Ron Meeks coached when he worked under Tony Dungy and Johnson is making a case to start.
No household names that’s for sure… but they all seem to be stepping up right now.
Norwood will end up at OLB. In 2010 he may be a designated pass rusher, but barring injury we wont see him a lot. I actually think Norwood could be the future on the weak side, provided the team decide not to bring back Thomas Davis… but that’s a lot of speculation based on how he returns from his second torn ACL.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
Carolina is first in total preseason defense, and second in preseason rush defense.
The defensive tackles are playing fast and with a lot of heart. They’re shutting down the run game very well, holding to their gap assignments, and providing a push up the middle on passing downs. I’m as surprised as anyone. I hope it carries over to the regular season, though I don’t see them going from 2nd to mediocre over night. It’s looking like the defensive line is somehow the strength of the whole team.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
well...
preseason is pretty meaningless.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 2, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Two questions: After Fox is fired this year, is Coach Cowher your next hire? How is Rae Carruth?
R.I.P. Mad Dog
by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 2, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions
No guarantee Fox is fired… I get the opinion it will be more about whether Fox wants to leave for the Giants job rather than us firing him.
Carruth is in jail, where he belongs.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I was busting your chops about Carruth...
But with Fox, I hink another subpar year and management has to make a change. I know the Richardson’s want stability, but the fan base is fickle and impatient.
I think Fox is pretty good myself.
R.I.P. Mad Dog
by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 2, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Fox is under appreciated... but that's only by the fan base
The organization know his value, and Fox knows his value… but it seems unlikely the two sides will meet on a contract. We’re a small market team who are governed by a fiscally conservative owner. He won’t get caught up in a bidding war for John Fox, which very well could happen.
Of course there is a possibility Fox wont want to uproot his family, but I think it’s unlikely; less likely though are the wishes of the masses for us to bring in Bill Cowher.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I don’t care what the man did. For all we know he could’ve turned his life around and become a way better person than any of us. People change all the time. It’s not right to hold someone’s past against them. We’re all human and all capable of the same things, if given the right circumstances and experiences. I’m not making an excuse for him, ’cause there is no excuse, but, like I said, we have no way of knowing what kind of person he is now.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
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"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
it spreads fast
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Well, I would agree with that
But having your wife pregnant wife killed which resulted in a permanently brain damaged child is a little bit more than what most of us are capable of.
I hope he stays in prison a long time, no matter what changes he has made as a person.
R.I.P. Mad Dog
by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 2, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we will just agree to disagree.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Right on, brother.
R.I.P. Mad Dog
by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 2, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
We played the Broncos last week
We didn’t get any of those Broncos cheerleaders on here so…..
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Boing
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Sep 2, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Boi-oi-oi-oi-oinnnggg

I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!
-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now
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"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Beavis and Butthead looking up the librarians skirt
I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!
-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now
Chapless but dreamy
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Yes, easy to loose your focus in those eyes
To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
Sorry I can't help ya with that.
Gotta go prep for this hurricane.
To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
You making a protein shake?
I love the smell of burnt O-line in the morning!
-Me, ripping off Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now
Hurricane Earl is approaching
but I’m not too concerned, it’s too far offshore for anyone to lose power between 7:30 and 11:00…
To try and then fail, is not unacceptable. But failing to try, is accepting failure.
I thought Earl was in the trunk
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Man I like this picture
YUM!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
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"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

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