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Hello, Bucs fan here. Just wanted to give you guys a little in depth preview from a diehard Bucs fan that you probably wont get from the national guys...

 

When the BUcs are on Offense....

 

 

Tampa's  Gameplan--  Run the ball, whether its effective or not, they will run to protect Freeman and get to 3rd down and see if Freeman can create something with his feet, or with his young talented WRs + WInslow at TE. Freeman doesnt like to run, and is always looking to throw first. He is elusive and hard to bring down, and has a huge arm. Spotty accuracy at times but can make every throw. His maturity and leadership skills are growing a lot, but he is still very susceptible to making mistakes and misreads. Is a real playmaker, and gets compared to Roethlisberger a lot.

 

OL-- The run blocking of the OL is supposed to be the strength of the offense, but is looking like the weakness. No push vs the run. Just not what we expect from an OL with 4 "maulers", + the technician Jeff Faine. In pass pro LT Penn and RT Trueblood are inconsistent ranging from above average to atrocious.Especially TBlood

 

RB-- No gamebreakers in the backfield, but a handful of very capable/ reliable backs. The split early on has seen Caddy getting the majority of carries, with Graham getting a few in the red zone and serving as starting FB. OL is giving them no help

 

WR/TE-- Freemans favorite targets in the passing game are Mike Williams and Winslow. He looks to Stroughter a lot on 3rd down out of the slot, and as his next favorite target in general. Spurlock is an inexperienced but explosive 3rd option at WR/ wildact QB/returnman.

 

 

 

 

When the BUcs are on Defense....

 

 

Tampa's Gameplan-- With not much pass rush on the DL, Raheem Morris has called a lot of blitzes, and has really mixed things up running the 3-4 at times, in an attempt to get pressure on the QB. Very little cover 2 is being played. The heart of the defense has been replaced with two of the top 35 picks in this years draft, in DTs Price and McCoy, as well as last years 3rd round pick DT Miller. With talent and experience all over the place at LB and in the secondary, the emergence of our interior DL has given TB the missing piece they needed vs the run.The secondary is the strength of the team

 

DL-- McCoy, Price, and Miller are becoming a formidable rotation on the inside, and at DE Tim Crowder, Stylez G White, and Kyle Moore are average at best. High motors with very little pass rush

 

LB-- Geno Hayes, former teammate of Lawrence Timmons, is becoming a real splash player. The only similarities Hayes and Timmons share might be speed. Hayes is a smallish OLB in the mold of D Brooks, who flys to the ball and can run and hit. Ruud is very solid in the middle, and will get better and better iwth the new interior DL in front of him. Quincy Black is a 3-4 type OLB, who resembles a Pitt Lb more than a Bucs LB but provides lots of versatility and is becoming a force all over the field..

 

Secondary-- This unit is the strength of the D, and the team. Aqib Talib is a stud at CB, and Barber is coming off a strong year last year and has started this year on fire, creating key turning points in both wins this year. Tanard Jackson is the best player on the defense, the hardest hitter on the team, and a real ballhawk and playmaker.

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If your game plan is to run the ball

You are going to lose

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by John Stephens on Sep 20, 2010 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

If your game plan is to pass

You are also going to lose

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by EdmontonSteel on Sep 20, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

If your game plan is to play offense

you are going to lose

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by WVPiratesfan on Sep 20, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

if your game plan is to play the Steelers...

You are going to lose.

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by svenhoek on Sep 20, 2010 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

+1933

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Sep 20, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

If Big Ben was playing this would be chalked up as a L

Being at home, in a disgustingly hot September game in Tampa, without Big Ben playing, we have a real shot. Pitt’s D will be tough, real tough, but we could win.

Last week I saw a Panther team that had issues, but just like PItts D is capable of winning all on their own this week I knew Carolina running game could win all on their own last week. We took care of Stewart and Williams (for the first time in 4-5 matchups), and came out with the big W. Hopefully we can do the same this week.

by Rays4242 on Sep 20, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course you could win

Anyone can win. The offense job is to get 14 pts, if they do that and not turn the ball over we’ll win.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Sep 20, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

the only chance they have is if you make alot of turn overs into touch downs, because its highly unlikely that the Bucs will score on the defense, our defense may score more than our offense and your offense next week

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"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 20, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

But the Bucs have a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very small chance to win.

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by Mini Hulk on Sep 20, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

50/50 chance.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Sep 21, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

well played sir

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by WVPiratesfan on Sep 21, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Titans said the same thing

It didn’t work out so well for them.

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Sep 20, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

last i saw it was a 1 score game

Pitt is the better team, and in Pittsburgh I have little doubt that Pitt would win even WITH Leftwich. In Tampa with Lefty it could go either way.

I agree with the guy who said if Pitts offense puts up 14 pts and doesnt turn the ball over they’ll win. That is VERY doable, but not in the bag

Tampa will need to play better than they did in their 20-7 manhandling of Carolina. It’ll be a tough challenge for Tampa but we will see

by Rays4242 on Sep 21, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

We did enough to win

Week 1 was also a great game for us. Atlanta didn’t even get a touchdown. We only have to win by 1 point or more. I think we can do that against the Bucs. Obviously, any team can win on any given week. However, I just think the Steelers will win based on what I’ve seen so far. I hope for a great game that is injury-free.

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Sep 21, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

You just acted like the Titans got blown out, they didnt

Pitt is the better team, Im just hoping for a good game

by Rays4242 on Sep 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No blow out

Unless you were a Titan that saw Chris Johnson run for 34 yards and VY getting benched. In that sense they did get blown out. It was no blowout for us. I was just happy to win since we are without BB and our O line sucks without him. My daughter’s 2nd favorite team is the Bucs. Of course, Steelers are her favorite team and Polamalu is her favorite player, so she’ll also be rooting for the Steelers. However, you guys look decent so far, and I hope you have a really good season (except when you play us).

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Sep 21, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if either team scores 14 point

that team will win. This game could be low scoring enough for a team to win with a single digit though I will stick with my earlier prediction that 12 points will win it.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 22, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

This Just in: The Steelers signed John David Booty!

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by Webslasher81 on Sep 20, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

link?

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 20, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya i seen that, thats why i was some what confused when he mentioned Booty, well welcome back Lefty time for you to get some revenge on Tampa Bay

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 20, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's booty

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by PixburghArn on Sep 20, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOTY-FUL!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Sep 20, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec… ignore the others. they’re still buzzing off of 7 turnovers.

by klompus on Sep 20, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

turnovers...

yum

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 22, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Defensive scheme

So you’re moving away a little from cover-2 – are you playing more man defense or a different zone defense?

I think you guys will have a tough time on offense with a young QB and a questionable running game. It’s actually pretty similar to the Tennessee offense, but without the big play abilities of CJ2YPC and Nate Washington. I do think Freeman is a better (or more willing?) runner than VY, though.

I don’t know if it would work or not, but your best bet might be to throw early on 1st and 2nd downs. Plunging into a very good run defense on 1st and second down seems like you’re just begging Freeman to make a mistake. If he starts the game with play action (without getting sacked) there will be some openings in the secondary.

If you guys win this game, I feel it will come from our offense making mistakes, or possibly some ST’s plays. Against Tennessee, our offense was really really bad. We got 7 turnovers and still couldn’t put them away. Our OL should be a little healthier next week, but we’ve really only managed FG’s, even when healthy. One or two mistakes against a good secondary could put us in a bad position.

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by BadMaafala on Sep 20, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

more man to man

truth is we have moved away from the Tampa 2 for 2-3 years now. We havent had a real pass rush from our front 4 in at least 5 years, which makes it impossible to really run the Tampa 2. We switch it up though. A lot of 4-3 blitzes with man coverage, some zone blitzes with DEs in coverage, and some 3-4.

Mike WIlliams > Nate Washington

Freeman probably isnt a better, and definitely not a more willing runner than VY. Freeman does NOT like to run.

We ran the ball unsuccessfully against Carolina. Caddy had 25 rushes for 50 yards, and we still kept pounding it.

Freeman has been GREAT on 3rd downs this year

by Rays4242 on Sep 20, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

"CJ2YPC"

yes sir

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Sep 20, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steelers game plan: quickly go 3 and out so the defense can get on the field and completely dominate the Bucs and hopefully score defensive and St touchdowns

Dear Freeman: dont run away from James Harrison, you will only make him angry, and you wont like him when hes angry.

on a serious note: is their any word on how well Leftwich is recovering and im assuming we are going to resign him, if Dixon isnt 100% or if he is having any confidence issues from yesterday i say start Leftwich and see what he can do, seeing how BA refuses to let Dixon use his legs (except once) it really wouldnt make much of a difference if we have Dixon or Leftwich in, at lest Leftwich can deliver down field, is Hampton and Starks going to be back for this game?

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 20, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Leftwich will be a horrible option for Pitt this week

In what should be a defensive battle in which Pitt has the better D, why risk giving the game away on 2 or 3 of Leftwichs dumb turnovers?

Lefty is terrible. He can move the offense to a degree, but he holds the ball too long and makes bad mistakes. NOt a good recipe for this steelers team.

by Rays4242 on Sep 20, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lefty

is better than you think. I hope he plays so you can see what he can do with a better team than the one he had last year.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Sep 20, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

Leftwich just sucked when he played for the Bucs, poor game planing and no weapons will do that to any QB. if we get Starks and Essex back and with the Bucs poor pass rush Leftwich should have no problem throwing slants to Ward and Miller and bombs Wallace, but after all it doesnt matter we are going to run the ball till the wheels fall off

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 20, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lefty sucks

His slow delivery and poor decision making does not hinge on which WR he is throwing too.

Theres a reason his career has taken the path it’s taken. Charlie Batch is maybe the only QB in the league that makes having Lefty seem like a good thing, but with Pitts nasty D I might rather roll with the guy whos not going to turn the ball over in Batch

Lefty can make some throws, dont get me wrong. I remember Brian Griese producing for the BUcs 4-5 years ago. But what good are 8 good plays when youre going to have 2 horrible ones? I see the same thing in Lefty

by Rays4242 on Sep 21, 2010 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice summary
He is elusive and hard to bring down, and has a huge arm.

This could work very much in your favor. One way to beat our defense is to hold on long enough that your receivers stretch the field. Then make a dink pass to an RB or TE just as the pocket is collapsing. Freeman’s ability to throw long probably won’t help, but if he can avoid getting tangled up in Woodley, Harrison, and his own O-line long enough to make that dump pass…. you might have some good plays. If you must run it, delayed hand-offs are your best bet.

His maturity and leadership skills are growing a lot, but he is still very susceptible to making mistakes and misreads.

This part does not look good for you. Our defense is full of veterans who have been indoctrinated in LeBeau’s systematic confusion model. QBs must be able to make adjustments to their adjustments and their receivers must know where to go when the pocket breaks down.

"They eat fish and are majestic" - Great Sergios Ghost

by Varmint on Sep 20, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Freeman is certainly prone to turnovers

He had a great offseason and has really been efficient so far this season, but I expect 2 balls per game to be thrown in the defenses breadbasket

He is a smart guy, with a great work ethic, and he works tirelessly to get better and he showing signs of becoming that leader. But at 22 years old he still has some learning to do

by Rays4242 on Sep 20, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

22?

Didn’t know he was that young. Lots of promise in that kid.

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by Varmint on Sep 20, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was a 21 yo Junior when drafted

For leaving school early, and coming from the program he came from it is a miracle he is as far along as he is at this point

He had TERRIBLE coaching, and WRs at K State, and he was the QB of a lot of losing teams there. Thats why I am hesitant to get too excited about him because hes still so raw and a boom or bust type player, but at the same time Bucs fans are willing to accept his mental mistakes and growing pains because he is so young and came here so under developed

by Rays4242 on Sep 21, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

for this btw. lets hope for a good hard fought game with no injuries and a steelers win!

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Sep 20, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Why do I get the impression, when I watch the Bucs' situation...

…that I’m looking at what Tomlin would have been doing if he’d landed here instead of a cushy job in PA? Beyond the young black coach analogy, I like what they’re doing here. It took courage to tear it all up and start over instead of dragging things along for a few seasons with overpriced FAs and aging fan favourites.

Question: Has Winslow smartened up, finally?

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by Flying Polamalus on Sep 20, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

As far as overpriced FAs and fan favorites

Youre a little mixed up. We had no problem running Lynch, Sapp, Rice, Alstott and Brooks out of town. To the point where many fans and local media thought we cut them loose too early. We’ve been the cheapest team in football since 2005, spending less on payroll than any team in the NFL since that time.

2 things happened when Gruden was here…

1) BEFORE gruden arrived, we were way over the cap, and saddled with bad contracts

2) AFTER Gruden arrived, our owners stopped spending money and Gruden was forced to sign the only kind of FAs he could afford…old, washed up players, or hurt players, etc.

Gruden and co. shouldve never been fired. One of the worst decisions ever made by this organization. Raheem has picked up where Gruden left off and done a great job, and ownership is to blame for last years 3-13 season and this years 80 mil payroll ?(lowest in the NFL)

by Rays4242 on Sep 20, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

has Winslow smartened up?

Hes been a great teammate, and his personality really works well with the young Raheem Morris. Winslow loves being here, and loves his situation here. Hes played great on the field

That said, hes been on every injury report since we got him. He has a knee surgery every offseason. He hasnt practiced all training camp and season, and its my prediction that his career will be over within 2 years due to knee problems. Guy plays great when he suits up though, no matter how hurt he is

by Rays4242 on Sep 20, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he was that way in Cleveland

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Sep 20, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

One more thing

Freeman has been great on 3rd downs so far. Freeman hasnt faced a D this year that is on the level of PItt, but he has been great on 3rd downs and has played with the maturity and poise of a veteran playoff QB.

Im expectinmg a real challenge thsi week

by Rays4242 on Sep 20, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Go Rays

I don’t know what to expect from this game. Number one, not many expected a battle of the unbeatens! Second, who the hell is gonna QB for Pittsburgh? What kind of offense will we see? Can the Steelers defense continue to provide the edge needed for the W?

I don’t know enough about Tampa except that they do have the weapons to get a win. I don’t know about their pounders though.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Sep 20, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

In the past 5 years the OL has been the #1 priority and investment in Tampa

yet the OL, which is built for power, hasnt shown it this year. The right side of the line is plenty big and plenty mean. Our franchise LT Penn, specializes in run blocking. Jeff Faine was great the last 2 years at center. The OL has just shown no cohesion or chemistry so far, which is odd due to their experience together and expectations

Caddy and Graham are effective runners. Each capable of being 1000 yard rushers. Neither is a gamebreaker, but both are above average runners.

The offense is going to really be challenged this week. I am a little worried. To win Tampa needs to not lose the game on offense, and really play up to expectations on defense and maybe a little more.

by Rays4242 on Sep 21, 2010 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Yankees fan...

And even I have a hard time not rooting for the Rays, unless we’re playing them. I like the whole vibe that team has with Madden at the helm. Best of luck to them, until it comes time to play us again of course.

Thanks for the info, by the way.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Sep 21, 2010 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Maddon has a lot of haters in Tampa

A lot

I dont know baout the Rays, behind Price no one is pitching good in the rotation. The only good thing is, thats pretty much the case for everyone else in the AL

Yanks have Sabathia and then question marks

Texas has Lee then ?

Minny has Liriano then ?

I think Garza will be a better playoff pitcher than everyone elses #2s (Pettitte, Pavano, Lewis), but Im really worried. We have a patchwork offense with several big holes in it.

The strength of the Rays was supposed to be that they had the best 1-3 in the rotation than anyone in baseball. Not so much anymore

by Rays4242 on Sep 21, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tanard Jackson is OUTof this game!

How’s the secondary without him? PED 1 year suspension, thats gotta be rough.

by SteelersVT on Sep 23, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Not PED, it was weed, and hes a lowlife

he let down the entire organization. This is very deflating. Tanard is such a huge piece for us. Suspended 4 games last year, and 14 this year, because he cant pass a weed test. In-freakin-believable

by Rays4242 on Sep 23, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

for weed? sheesh

When it finally becomes legalized I wonder if players will be able to retroactively appeal or sue. We ran Holmes out of town for as much.

by SteelersVT on Sep 23, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  


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