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Tired of waiting on Arn's drive by so I thought I'd post my game notes from a HUGE W in Nashville yesterday. What do you guys and gals think?

Star-divide

 

* When looking at the schedule in the pre-season this was one you wrote an L next to unless you are named Nostradamus. With a 1-8 record in Tennessee life time the best I could come up with during pre-game was “Well, they’re due.”

 

* The Pittsburgh Steelers sported a Championship caliber defense for the second week in a row in stopping the Titans cold 19-11 yesterday in hundred degree temperatures. The Titans made the Steelers wear black in the Nashville heat but the Steelers made the Titans pay dearly with a gargantuan display of defense and an array of hard hits that forced 7 Titan turnovers and stopped hot running AFC premier back Chris Johnson’s streak of hundred yard games cold at 12. Vince Young was benched. Kerry Collins was not much better. What a difference Troy Polamalu makes. Game notes;

 

·        *  Very happy with the coaching staff. The opening special teams call on the reverse was brilliant. The Titans hadn’t seen Brown or his speed…ever. By putting Moore deep it made the Steelers appear conservative, which is what they have been in the kicking game thus far. Then the reverse. Then Antonio Brown introduced himself to the Titan special teams as he raced by all 11 for the TD. I like that Tomlin stuck with Batch regardless of the extent of Dixon’s injury. With a 10 point lead at the half it made perfect sense to let the vet steward the W. Even Bruce Arians did some good things although his offense generated very little. I loved the 2nd down pass into the end zone from Batch to Wallace that was called back. Better to take your shot into the end zone on 2nd down than 3rd under a fierce rush. Later in the late 4th quarter when the Steelers were definitely going to run the ball, a series of shifts and motion generated an encroachment penalty on the Titan D. A well designed play BA!

·        *  It was a surprise LB Sylvester Stevenson was drafted let alone that he made the 53. Don’t know if he had a hat in week 1 but his special teams play was nothing short of all pro on Sunday. After making a key block on Antonio Brown’s opening kickoff he promptly stripped the Titans on the ensuing kickoff. He also made several other ST tackles throughout the afternoon and was generally impressive.

·         * Ward got hosed on that opening toss by Dixon off his helmet. He got punched in the head with a ball and mugged by 11 Titan defenders and not a one was ejected. Guess everyone knows how dirty Hines is?

·         * As stated above, Troy Polamalu is All World and we are watching a Hall Of Fame career in progress. The leap over the pile and tackle of Collins in the 4th quarter was simply one of the best plays you will ever see on a football field.

·        *  I can’t tell you how many times I said “2 time Champion and 2008 defensive player of the year James Harrison” watching the game. He is also looking at another Pro Bowl. Woodley is too. So is Timmons. This might be among the greatest Steeler 4 LB tandem of all time. Lloyd, Greene, Kirkland & Brown were pretty good but…Dominating D! Got to love that.

·         * VY got hit so hard on one sack I think he had to leave the game for an appointment with his analyst. Woodley, Harrison, Timmons…Dominating. Brutal defense…Championship caliber…did I say that already?

·        *  B Mac…welcome back…again! Huge pick after a big 15 tackle game against the Falcons. The Steelers FO stole B Mac from AZ.  

·         * HUGE 3rd and 1 for Redzone Redman. That makes 4/5. Not too shabby for an undrafted practice squad tackling dummy. He also looked good on special teams. I don’t understand why Moore gets any carries anymore. I know why he is on the team and he serves several key functions but I would use Redman more.

 

·         * The offense needs to get better. Dixon was skittish with a turnover and a fumble before the injury. Batch passed for about 20 yards. The D won’t always hold the opponent to 1 TD in 2 weeks. Stay out of trouble Ben. Get well soon Byron. 3-2 win versus Tampa is all we need for 3-0

        * Congratulations Steve McLendon! In the NFL you are a heartbeat away from playing. Big Steve has sat on the PS for 2 years and was activated in the heat of Nashville yesterday with Big Snack injured. Then when Hoke went down I saw McClendon grab his helmet and stand next to John Mitchell waiting for his turn. On his first snap he engaged two blockers and then recovered a fumble. How exciting for him!

 

 

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And how exciting for us!
On his first snap he engaged two blockers and then recovered a fumble. How exciting for him!

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 20, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

So two first time players, Brown and McLendon, got the ball on there first play ever in the NFL.

The O guy (ST I know) got a TD and the D guy recovers a fumble.
Ok baseball stat guys, ever happened before?
McLendon may have played a game sometime before, if so, nevermind.

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by SNW on Sep 20, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I didn’t understand why we were keeping McLendon around. Now I know. FO and Tomlin know what they are doing.

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 22, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Johnson

Probably hopes he never has to see our D again. We had the surround cranked up during the game and some of the cracks he was taking were in a word awesome. Obviously, it was their game plan to hit him HARD everytime he touched the rock. Timmons is a beast and he might be one of the best tacklers I’ve watched. His form, explosion, wrap up and drive are just text book and the ferociousness doesn’t hurt either.

CJ was slow to get up after a bunch of carries and that whiff he put on Harrison was all but throwing up the white flag.

Good job D, keep it going it Tampa Bay.

I hope we get to wear Black again, good try Fish.

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 say no more.

by WARDANE33 on Sep 20, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope we wear white next week in Florida

good God if the D was gassed in Nashville last week, they may pass out from exhustion next week if they wear black

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Sep 20, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Might actually be cooler in Tampa.

I lived down there for several years and there’s almost always a steady breeze, even though it’s always in the 90s during the day. In Nashvile, it was stinky hot with not much air moving.

by Billy52 on Sep 20, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Donnie Shell

I think it was Timmons? Someone hit CJ square in the inner thigh and chest on one play and left him crumpled. He never ran the same after that hit. Can’t remember if it was 94 but the hit was reminiscent of a hit the “Headhunter” Donnie Shell put on Earl Campbell on a Monday Night in yesteryear.

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by 5020 on Sep 20, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think it was

man it was a great hit

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Sep 20, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was refering to the the LT hit

I was not alive to see Shell play

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by WVPiratesfan on Sep 21, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

yesss

When McLendon recovered the fumble, I think I giggled like a little girl – ‘look look look, they just called him up!’ That was awesome. I agree with you on Redman too. Mendenhall is our clear-cut 3 down back, when when backing him up in downs that are not obviously passing, why not use Redman more? Maybe I am just getting into the BTSC hype though.

by Simonsen on Sep 20, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Mewelde

My main point with the Redman talk is that I can’t remember a positive play MM has made since his heroic 08 performance. MM threw a nice pass on a gadget play last year I was reminded here last week and MM is a solid PR, KR and RB but I think he has aged. Give 33 a shot with the rock a couple extra times a game instead of calling 21’s number.

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by 5020 on Sep 20, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I realize Redman is a future HOF, so forgive me in advance:

I don’t recall if he caught, or was thrown to for that matter, out of the backfield. If he can catch, then let’s get Dwyer in here and see what he can do. ARE is handling the punts anyway, so what does MM give us that one of the others would need to improve on?

Thank you Mr. Moore, for your contributions. It’s time for the young’ins.

by dawgs144 on Sep 20, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He caught one pass...

Made a guy miss and fought for three tough yards after catching it behind the line of scrimmage.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Sep 20, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

so nothing to really judge by?

No time like the present to find out! I’m still dying to see Mendy out in some space on a screen pass…head of steam…Heath and Hines in front….maybe Pouncey 40 yards out in front of them….well, I can dream right?

by dawgs144 on Sep 20, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I've seen of Redman...

There are times he looks good catching the ball, and I’ve seen a few that it looked like he was fighting it a bit. When he gets the ball in his hands, he has great balance, and keeps his legs moving and fights for yards. But to say I’m confident in his hands would be a bit premature right now. Memo has great hands for a HB, he’s just not as talented with the ball as he used to be.

And dream on dawgs, dream on. :) I’d like to see it too.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Sep 20, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

As far as Dwyer goes, he’s got the label of “can’t catch a cold”. He caught very few in college, but I’m not sure how he has looked catching as of yet with us.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Sep 20, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just realized I wasn't clear on Dwyer.

I’m not ready for him to catch out of the backfield, hell, I’m still waiting for Mendy to get some passes (see above!). I meant more that instead of activiating MM, let’s get 3rd down responsibilities into Redman’s hands already, and activate Dwyer in a game as the change of pace runner.

I should have said that more clearly.

by dawgs144 on Sep 20, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I most likely misunderstood...

And MeMo still serves some purpose. This has only been two games. He hasn’t looked good, but it’s too early to write anyone off yet, in my opinion.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Sep 20, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once Ben gets back.

Things will be less conservative and there will be some changes.
They cannot afford turnovers by the O right now.

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by SNW on Sep 20, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know.

I’ve just been screaming for the stupid screen pass for the last three years. And especially with Mendy in on 3rd downs…we love the wideout screens, but never seem to use the dump-off pass. I just can’t figure out why that seems to be the last page in the play-book, if it’s in the plans at all.

by dawgs144 on Sep 20, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

that Dwyer is ready yet.

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 22, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the record...
  • I think a lot of us didn’t pencil an L here. I know I sure didn’t… I never believed in VY or the Titans. Still don’t. I’ll bet they lose 3 of their next 6… and finish the year 8-8.
  • Agree on Melwelde Moore… if I never see a play set to go to him, I’ll be happy.
  • Ditto Randel El. I mean, I like the guy as a person… but I want to see Brown worked in more — in both returns and the passing game.
  • Our Special Teams haven’t been discussed much, but am I the only one, who no longer holds his breath every time we kickoff or punt?
  • Love Robo-punter… but would it kill him to at least TRY to angle one out of bounds?

by MarkJoel66 on Sep 20, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Every Year Is Different

but unless you are one of those kids that looks at the schedule every year and gleefully shouts “16-0!” you had to be looking at a trip to Nashville sans Ben with some trepidation…1-8 lifetime in Nashville Nostradamus66….:-)

Agreed. Loved Robo & the ST play all year except one drunken 40 yard miss last week by their AA kicker. Randle El & MM are vital veterans who are needed to keep TOs at a minimum until 7s return. But we also agree that guys like Redman, Brown & Wallace need touches not MM, El & Spaeth except once in a while or for gadgetry.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Sep 20, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not 16-0

I had us down for 11-5… with a win in Nashville… not Nostradamus. I think we lose to NO. And it wouldn’t shock me if we lose to Miami… but I figured we’d make My Young implode…

I do agree on Redman (of course!) and Brown and Wallace. I’d like to see some end arounds with Wallace — used to work with Santonio, so I’d like to see it. The little smoke passes to Wallace don’t seem to work, and that baffles me. But I’d like to see us create ways of getting him touches.

by MarkJoel66 on Sep 20, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with 50

i think most prognasticators had the titans winning this one at home, against a ben-less, big snack-less, starting left tackle – less steelers team. not that we don’t have unlimited confidence in our team, and not that hope doesn’t spring eternal, but many fans were saying that we’d be 2-2 after ben’s suspension, with wins against atlanta and tampa bay. this one is just gravy, in my opinion.

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by agentorange on Sep 20, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most prognosticators did have them winning it

But this board didn’t. (I was very disappointed in Merril Hoge, btw…)

by MarkJoel66 on Sep 20, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Batch deserves more credit

I don’t remember his numbers, but you mention his measly 20 yards. Heath Miller, ball in his hands…drops it, at least a 15 yard gain. Hines Ward, TD pass in his hands….drops it. Randel El 20 yard pass in his hands….drops it. The problem wasn’t Batch, he was dead on accurate from what I saw. Maybe the recievers were caught off guard by the nice throws and flubbed them because of that. All I know is that Batch was putting the ball where it needed to be.

by Steelde#1 on Sep 20, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Batch

was awesome. And I do credit his stewardship to the W. I was happy that he was left in the game instead of a hurt (or healthy) Dixon. He was given a lead and didn’t screw it up. Like El & MM we are lucky to have veteran Charles Batch.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Sep 20, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I think Batch played as well as the line would allow. I think given a chance he can still play ball.

by Chicago Steeler on Sep 20, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forget as well as the line allowed...how about BA giving him some plays?

I’m not saying the 80 yarder in the air to Wallace, but give Charlie something to do back there….think Mendy is a little sore today with those 8-man fronts? How about switching it up a little and getting the pass game to give the run game a little space?

by dawgs144 on Sep 20, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

bah...

I refuse to blame BA for anything in this game. With the hand he was dealt the only thing he could do was not screw up.

As has been stated in the blame BA post, folks complain that he throws too much, and then when he runs the ball people complain about not throwing. He’ll never make folks happy.

by Chicago Steeler on Sep 20, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody really smart and good looking must have said that

by worldtrip on Sep 20, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can bash BA if our O still sucks with Ben playing

Otherwise, I will give the guy a break until we get Ben back.

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Sep 20, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm loving it that we're running it, don't get me wrong.

But haven’t we all pretty much said that Batch is a coach-in-waiting? So why so many run-run-pass; run-run-pass? Aren’t we capable of being vanilla swirl, not just plain vanilla?

The Titans D is very good, but it’s not 127 yards good. We gave them a break by playing the way we did. It worked out this week, but is this a recipe for success? Let’s face it, BB may not play every game the next three years – should that dictate playing so conservative?

by dawgs144 on Sep 20, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Hard to blame BA for not scoring with a line patched together with stickum and bandage tape

by MarkJoel66 on Sep 20, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

If I came off as if I thought you were bashing Batch, that was not my intention. I think my reaction had to do with even the sports show talking heads saying “poor Batch was anemic with is 2/7 with only 20 yards” but those numbers don’t tell the story. I forgot to mention Wallaces dropped pass too… Batch was money on his throws.

by Steelde#1 on Sep 21, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another Thing About Batch...

I don’t think anyone has pointed out how many times the Titans jumped offsides with Batch under center. I counted at least three. Now granted, one or two times may have been a case of being too aggressive, but rarely do you see a defense jump that much in the same game.

So, my point is, I think Mr. Batch needs to teach Ben a thing or two about cadence. I’ll take a free five yards anytime.

by Craig Sager's Wardrobe on Sep 20, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

Definitely a veteran move. 1st time may have been due to the shift, but I think they jumped 3 or more times, 2 on the same series. It’s one of those little used things that a QB can utilize to help his team.

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by franz on Sep 20, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Write Up!

Like you I hated the Sylvester pick in the draft, but he made me change my mind in preseason. Even then he was a beast on special teams and its good to see him keep going. He brings some attitude too, so i’m pumped about him being a steeler. It’s worth noting thathe beat out both Worilds and Gibson for a “hat” this week, granted Worilds was hampered by injury.

by TrueSteelerForLife on Sep 20, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry

I was busy as a one armed paperhanger. I won’t do one now I’ll wait for next week.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Sep 20, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

All's Good Bullet Master

Your thoughts on the W 53?

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by 5020 on Sep 20, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was crazy, but the kind I like. I never really got close to a heart attack

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Sep 21, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

My first post for the new season

 I’m so happy to see the team everyone wrote off is winning and playing with a chip on their shoulder. I knew the Steelers were going to beat the Falcons but I didn’t not expect them to beat the Titans the way they did. I like VY and I respect CJ2K’s talent but it was so sweet to see our defense beat the hell out of those two.
I’m nervous about our QB situation and our inability to run the ball but in 2 games the offense will open up and it’s going to be on and poppin because the new and improved Big Ben will be back.
Just thinking about it makes me all tingly inside!

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by MDGeekyGrl on Sep 20, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Just thinking about it makes me all tingly inside!

:)

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Sep 20, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

:)

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Sep 20, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This defense is SICK....

If I HAD to make a comparison to past defenses….well, I just can’t.

You compared the LB’s to that of Kirkland / Brown or Lloyd / Green, and I couldn’t agree more…but can anyone think of a time when we had a total D package as good as the one we’re seeing now?

In the era of Lloyd / Green, we had Flowers, Steed, Olslavsky (sp) and these guys were adequate, but NOTHING like the UNSTOPPABLE defense I’ve seen so far this season.

In the Kirkland / Brown era we had Gildon but nobody else really impacted the game as much as the current safeties and D-line.

Maybe I’m TOO optomistic, but I think we are seeing a defense that will REDEFINE our opinions about ALL past defenses. EVEN the 70’s! Ya I said it!!!

With Kirkland / Brown

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by Blitz-burgh on Sep 20, 2010 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

oops, last bit was s’posed to get deleted….along with a WAY too in depth version of what I said :P

Some people think football is a matter of life and death...I assure you, it's much more serious than that."

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by Blitz-burgh on Sep 20, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I predicted a W

After watching our game last week, I knew we would win against the Titans. I didn’t know by how much and I figured it would be more of a nailbiter than it was, but I did predict a win for us. Our D is unbelievable and they are really getting it done. We will need to find a QB to back up Batch (Batch needing a backup? That is unreal).

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by samliam on Sep 20, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

We got El ! lol

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by Blitz-burgh on Sep 20, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I took the Steelers to beat Tenn in my Pick 'em league

but then again, I pick the Steelers every week. Can’t bring myself to pick the opponent.

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by chewiesteeler on Sep 21, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  


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