Final 53
by vin2k on Sep 4, 2010 4:27 PM EDT
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PrintThe following players were released by the Steelers: LB Patrick Bailey, CB Joe Burnett, S Da’Mon Cromartie-Smith, WR Tyler Grisham, DE Sunny Harris, C Justin Hartwig, WR Stefan Logan, DT Steve McLendon, FB Frank Summers, OG Kraig Urbik and DT Doug Worthington.
Looks like Dwyer, Sylvester and Butler all made it. Not suprised at all by this list as most of the mock 53 rosters were pretty close. I think both Dwyer and Butler made a strong push in the last 2 games to get on the final 53. Love the 2010 Steelers! Here we go Steelers here we go!!
QB: Charlie Batch, Dennis Dixon, Byron Leftwich
RB: Reshard Mendenhall, Mewelde Moore, Isaac Redman, Jonathan Dwyer
TE: Heath Miller, Matt Spaeth, D.J. Johnson
WR: Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Antwaan Randle El, Emmanuel Sanders, Antonio Brown, Arnaz Battle
OL: Max Starks, Chris Kemoeatu, Maurkice Pouncey, Trai Essex, Flozell Adams, Doug Legursky, Ramon Foster, Jonathan Scott, Tony Hills
DL: Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Brett Keisel, Ziggy Hood, Chris Hoke, Nick Eason
OLB: James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley, Jason Worilds, Thad Gibson
ILB: James Farrior, Lawrence Timmons, Larry Foote, Keyaron Fox, Stevenson Sylvester
S: Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Will Allen, Ryan Mundy
CB: Ike Taylor, Bryant McFadden, William Gay, Keenan Lewis, Crezdon Butler, Anthony Madison
K: Jeff Reed, Daniel Sepulveda, Greg Warren
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They are all a phone call away
I really don’t see any of these guys being singed, maybe Sunny Harris, but I am pretty sure they can PS Doug Worthington at the very least.
I've long been confident (hopefully not overconfident) that we could pants squad Worthington
Worthington’s the only guy we have that really does have a 6’5 frame ala Smith and Keisel, and I think he really is a future keeper.
But Harris is something of a known developmental prospect with his shuffle to Carolina and back and will definitely be in discussions for poaching during the next however many hours. But Dale Lolley did say that Harris didn’t show anywhere close to the same level of fire that he did last preseason, so hope springs eternal.
Is Harris PS eligible?
I want to see DCS, Grisham, Worthington and Burnett from this list to make it on the PS.
"I am a total flaming homo"
- by biggcat on Sep 3, 2010 4:45 AM PDT
isnt Burnett ineligible…. unfortunately…. plus side this means their confident enough to go with Butler
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 5, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is the complete list, correct me if I am wrong
QB: Charlie Batch, Dennis Dixon, Byron Leftwich
RB: Reshard Mendenhall, Mewelde Moore, Isaac Redman, Jonathan Dwyer
TE: Heath Miller, Matt Spaeth, D.J. Johnson
WR: Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Antwaan Randle El, Emmanuel Sanders, Antonio Brown, Arnaz Battle
OL: Max Starks, Chris Kemoeatu, Maurkice Pouncey, Trai Essex, Flozell Adams, Doug Legursky, Ramon Foster, Jonathan Scott, Tony Hills
DL: Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Brett Keisel, Ziggy Hood, Chris Hoke, Nick Eason
OLB: James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley, Jason Worilds, Thad Gibson
ILB: James Farrior, Lawrence Timmons, Larry Foote, Keyaron Fox, Stevenson Sylvester
S: Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Will Allen, Ryan Mundy
CB: Ike Taylor, Bryant McFadden, William Gay, Keenan Lewis, Crezdon Butler, Anthony Madison
K Jeff Reed, Daniel Sepulveda, Greg Warren
Oh, and poor Stefan Logan
He’s going to be murdering ST’s for some team this year. Hopefully he goes to a squad that has an OC that knows what he has in this guy, and will use him properly on offense.
"I am a total flaming homo"
- by biggcat on Sep 3, 2010 4:45 AM PDT
agree on Logan
but we did bring him out of nowhere into the giant spotlight that is the NFL, so he can land on his feet somewhere. Lotta teams need return men, and I still believe he could be a decent 4th WR for some team, speed is always useful.
I honestly think Logan is too short to play wideout
He should be a Sproles-type scatback, if anything.
"I am a total flaming homo"
- by biggcat on Sep 3, 2010 4:45 AM PDT
+1
On Logan getting a shot somewhere else. He was a bright spot in a dismal ST last year.
Logan
definitely a scatback rather than a wr. I hope he and many of our cuts land on their feet somewhere. I am hoping several end up on our PS.
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
704
704 players got cut Saturday. Of them 256 players will be added to practice squads. Those not PS eligible have a tough choices to make and a hard road ahead of them if they don’t get picked up and they want to try again next season.
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by steeler junky on Sep 5, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks pretty good
I hate to see both Harris AND Worthington cut. Also, Scott sucks, wouldve been nice to see them go with Urbik instead.
Practice Squad- Harris, Worthington, Harris, Urbik, DC-S, Burnett…. Hopefully they all stick.
by dru_dead on Sep 4, 2010 4:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
J. Scott
Yeah, I think the only reason he is on the roster vs. Urbik is because he came with the new OL coach.
J. Scott vs. Urbik was never a roster battle
Urbik was scrapping in the interior of the line with Legursky and Foster, J. Scott is a tackle. The only logic for cutting J. Scott is if you really want Urbik to be a 3rd string center/5th string guard and have Tony Hills as our lone backup tackle.
by barnerburner on Sep 4, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How much Better was Foster then Urbik?
In my opinion Foster doesnt have as much to offer, although he did play in actual games last year. This preseason Foster seems an enigma, where as Urbik took a big step forward. I guess the FO is reaaally looking forward to pairing Foster and the other Scott
by TrueSteelerForLife on Sep 4, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t matter how MUCH Foster was better than Urbik, it just matters THAT Foster was better than Urbik at guard (Urbik playing a little center counts for next to nothing in my book since Legursky is backing up Pouncey and I don’t think anyone is three deep at center).
You said it yourself though – Foster did play in actual games last year. Credit Foster for coming out undrafted and beating out a 3rd rounder to play in 14 games and start 4 his rookie year. Urbik may have taken a big step forward, but he was probably already much farther behind than we realized.
I guess...
i like Foster, just thought Urbik had a better tape, at least this season
by TrueSteelerForLife on Sep 4, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, i was hoping that
Foster would replace Essex as starting RG, Essux would replace Scott as backup RT, and Urbik would be our first guard off the bench if Kemo or Foster went down. Way too much line shuffling, but in any case that was my logic.
by dru_dead on Sep 4, 2010 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I get where you're coming from
But Essex is a finesse guy and I don’t think he could hack it at RT. I keep reading things here and there about how his outside game and lack of power is best suited to LT rather than RT.
Makes sense, in that case
I would have liked to have seen them cut Scott AND Essex in favor of Urbik and…. the PUP Scott? He (the PUP) wouldnt be available for six weeks but at least we could keep Worthington on our 53 in the mean time. Hell, maybe HE can play RG as well lol.
by dru_dead on Sep 4, 2010 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, sounds like a partial forecast of next year's offseason/training camp
Sign one out of Scott/Hills to a two year small dollar contract, let Essex walk, hope that PUP Scott can force his name into discussions.
And I’d take whatever punch Worthington could probably provide the run game over Essex any day of the week.
Worthington is a DE
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by steeler junky on Sep 5, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure on that one
My guess is no, i think he was active more than six games last year?
by dru_dead on Sep 4, 2010 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn
Well then, it looks like we lost him. To be eligible for PS he would have had to be active less thaen or equal to eight games… Oh well.
On the flip side im stoked that Butler made the 53!!!
by dru_dead on Sep 4, 2010 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For Real!
Butler will ride the pine for a while but has a real good shot down the road
by TrueSteelerForLife on Sep 4, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Urbik sucks worse.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Sep 4, 2010 6:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol, cant disagree
was debating keeping Urbik based on potential more than anything really.
by dru_dead on Sep 4, 2010 6:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Our special teams should be MUCH improved
with the guys we kept. Hopefully Brown can do something in the return game.
This sentence should take up no more than 1 line.
its not like our returning was the problem.
I mean Logan didn’t get a TD but his averages weren’t all that bad and he did set a Steelers record. The problem is our coverage teams…
This year we have a much better core unit
Fox, Madison, Foote, Battle, Redman, Worilds is a good start, Add Hood or Eason and we will be much improved
by TrueSteelerForLife on Sep 4, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
and with the new gunners (Allen and Battle) and the rooks, we should be looking good in coverage.
This sentence should take up no more than 1 line.
by SteelerMessican on Sep 4, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
True but
The Sepulverizer has prevented 3 punt returns fo rTD’s in the preseason, almost 1 per game.
That says a lot about our coverage and says a lot about our punter. He was shedding blockers all 3 times.
Agree
Wish he could improve on his kickoffs and replace “sissy” Reed. I didn’t see the last game (Panthers) yet, but was told that he (Reed) “punked out” again on another return. Sepulveda tackles with “heart” and isn’t afraid to mix it up.
On the other hand
Reed was in on a tackle. That’s a big step forward!
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 4, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
My wife says I should be more positive
I think I will make you my role model.
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Sepulveda having some kick duty
has been a good influence on Reed. No one likes to be punked.
"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - samliam
Yup,
When i saw Reed’s sliding “tackle” i screamed SAFE!!! at my television. Nevertheless, good to see him try.
by dru_dead on Sep 5, 2010 4:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL -
but you have to admit, at least he realizes that he isn’t playing soccer anymore. Now if he can just get the correct sport, we might see some awesome tackling out of him : )
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 5, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO!!!
On the flip he’s money on field goals and IS trying… I would just rather not see anymore matador impressions on kick coverage… I’ll take his home plate slides into returner’s ankles any day!!! Lol
Somewhat related, did you see Mare’s (Sickhawks) kickoff in the fourth quarter of their last preseason game? Sweet jesus! It went through the uprights and into the stands! No shit… Ive never seen that in my life!….
by dru_dead on Sep 5, 2010 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wow -
crazy…
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 5, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
THE real ST coverage unit won't be unveiled until the opener...
What you saw in pre-season included a lot of guys who aren’t on the roster.
Believe Homer J when he tells you the special coverage team will be – by far – the most improved unit on the team…..and Stevenson Sylvester will be an absolute ST monster.
Homer is as confident THIS year as he was worried LAST year about ST coverage.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
Who thought back in April that every one of our draft picks* would make the final 53?
No way I saw this happening. In Colbert we trust!! Thank god we locked him up with an extended contract. Just an amazing draft this year.
Worthington was cut and C. Scott is still on the PUP list
But I’m with you we kept more than I thought we would
True about Scott
Thus the asterisk. Not cut but not in, not out, just out there in limbo.
i was thinkin the exact same thing
I hate Hines Ward but I sure wish he was on my team.- ex Ravens head coach Brian Billick
by MAN_OF_STEEL_86 on Sep 4, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Kugler must see something
Its his pick, so I expect him to be the RT of the future. Or at least a backup
by TrueSteelerForLife on Sep 4, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Eight rookies and fourteen new faces--major changes.
…and that doesn’t count the return of McFadden and Randal El. If nothing else, it’ll be an interesting season.
This WILL BE Tomlin's team...
…..these are people who have bought into what he’s selling.
He got rid of one major case of clubhouse cancer (Holmes) and the other distraction (Big Stupid) is in the corner for a four game time out.
He brought back Randle El, Foote, and Lefty – all happy to be back and big backers of their coach. Add to that Ward, Farrior, Smith, and the other clubhouse leaders.
The new pledge class looks terrific, and there is a solid group of veterans who will bring them into the brotherhood. The chemistry here looks to be as good as it gets.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
Tomlin is very smart
Santonio"That’s how you be great"Holmes wasn’t a conformist (and we really did need that used blocking sled we got for him) and I believe Foote saw the light after playing in Detroit for a year… ARE is a fabulous locker room addition… he missed playing in the ’Burgh.
I’m lovin’ the Steelers roster, too!
When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!
+10
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 5, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really looking forward to seeing what Randle El brings to the table?
At first when he was signed i was stoked, but seeing how the draft unfolded i’m wondering if he will be here next year and whether he can seriously contribute this year?
by TrueSteelerForLife on Sep 4, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
i like this 53 a lot
I had burnett instead of Madison, but I don’t think that is a big deal, bc madison is just a STer. Speaking of that Tomlin ain’t messing around with ST this year keeping two guys who don’t offer a lot outside of that in Madison and Battle.
I am really glad they kept Dwyer and Butler. Those two are going to be good. Looks like we go into the season with only two true QBs on the roster.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Sep 4, 2010 6:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
May only be two true QBs right now
But by my count 6, 7 if you include Big Ben, played the position in college. Quite the band of brothers that found ways to reinvent themselves.
The chances Tomlin is taking this year is rookie class being able to step in if needed.
Last year he gambled the young guys doing ST. That flopped. It’s the NFL, you can’t play it safe and win, if this class is really as good as it looks, we’ll be one heck of a team.
Is this the REAL roster?
I’m wondering whether we’ll see further changes in the coming days if the Steelers come to terms with any of several experienced or developmental players who might be upgrades over our backups on both lines and possibly QB.
I think this'll stick for week one
We do a better job of bringing talent into training camp than most other teams, so we don’t have to do a lot of waiver wire scouring to try to round out our 53
both lines?
That is a solid DL.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Sep 4, 2010 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think we’ll find upgrades on the line on either side, our 2nd string D-line could start many places, esp Ziggy and Hoke. On Offense we have a lot of youth that are starting to come into their game.
Age of O-Linemen:
Adams: 35
Starks: 28
Kemo: 27
Essex: 27
J Scott: 27
Hills: 25
Legs: 24
Foster: 24
Pouncey: 21
Replace Adams with Colon and the O-Line would average 25.6 years old. As is it’s 26.5. Also this line with Colon is a RG from being quite good.
thats what people tend to forget about this line
thye are young and lineman can play for a long time without a drop off in play. The only one who for sure has reached his peak for sure is Adams…
Adams is a Band Aid
If Colon is resigned again after this season, then we are an Essex replacement away from being a good line for the next 3-4 years. Maybe Mike Pouncey is in the mix next year, eventhough he had a shity game lst night, but that was at cener
by TrueSteelerForLife on Sep 5, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Betcha that C. Butler beats out Keenan Lewis for a game-day roster spot ...
Butler can play both safety spots as well as inside nickel and outside CB spots. Keenan can’t. Hope to get Harris and Worthington onthe practice squad. Time to give the keys to C. Batch and start this train down the tracks. I’d give Dennis Dixon a pkg that he is comfortable with and let him play with that. I don’t think he is ready to lead this team right now. Tunch Ilkins said something that made a lot of since on whether it should be Batch or Dixon. He said if the team started Dixon, they wouldn’t be able to use the whole playbook, and after getting that first game film, most D coordinators in the league could shut that down. I like Batch because he is a quick decision-maker and won’t have a problem getting the ball out of his hands. Time to kick this thing off.
i love to gamble, but i fold
No way I take that bet. Agreed 100%. Would love to see Butler active on game day. Im with you that it happens at Lewis’ expense.
by dru_dead on Sep 4, 2010 7:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pat White, Troy Smith, Matt Leinhart, etc.
What’s the point in keeping Byron Leftwich on the 53 if he’ll miss the first two games at least. He’s a known commodity who’s as good as he’s going to get. If the team wants three QBs active for the first four games, why not sign a functioning body off the waiver wire for spare change? Leftwich won’t be picked up by someone else while his knee remains questionable. If we find we need him once he’s mobile again, I’m sure he’ll be available.
I understand that Lefty...
…wants to remain a Steeler and is satisified with being a backup to Ben. He no longer has aspirations of being a starting QB or even a backup QB on another team. If true, it will set up an interesting QB situation next year between DD and Lefty. We may see DD traded and the Steelers draft a number 3 QB.
All the more reason to give DD some looks
While Bens gone… to maximize his trade value.
by dru_dead on Sep 4, 2010 7:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and see if he can step up his game.
One start is not indicative of his worth from a fan standpoint. If the coaches see something else, that’s another story, and it’s been said here before, that they brought in lefty because they didn’t think Dix could do it..
Lord Byron is a slow healer
He wont be ready for 3 weeks minimum. Ben will be back by then. Should have given him an injury settlement. Saved a roster spot.
I thought they would keep either 7DL or 10 OL. Surprised Urbik got cut. He is better than Essex. So we need to draft a LT and RG,and NT next year.
by Steeler Nation VA on Sep 4, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd add FS to that list...
Polamalu and Clark are injury prone. Mundy and esp Allen will be fine depth wise but niether really excites me much as a replacement for Clark…
Hopefully DD will be ready to start week two. Two or three good games and maybe we get a third or fourth rnd pick for him….
by dru_dead on Sep 4, 2010 7:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not that it really matters
but i did just see that willie parker was cut by the ’skins today. sad day for him. hope he gets picked up by somebody.
...die trying
http://www.agentorangerecords.blogspot.com
also...
i can’t help but think about momma rollett’s article the other day, about how it must feel for those who are getting cut today, and those who have to make the decisions. tough day all around.
...die trying
http://www.agentorangerecords.blogspot.com
I was judging by skill
but you do what you want
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by John Stephens on Sep 5, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Next thing you know,
klompus is going to be posting momma-style BAA drafts…
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 5, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, never managed to get my predicted 53 drawn up
But I think for the most part it looked like this. I for one would have rather cut Leftwich through ways of an injury settlement as a way of making room for Burnett or Worthington, but I cant complain about anything here
A lot of our youngsteres proved themselves very capable in preseason, time to step it up a notch
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