NFL Defensive Player of the Year Candidates and My Vote for the Winner
The Steelers have had a great year defensively, which was a large relief after last year's defense that always seemed to take its foot off the gas in the 4th quarter. Most fans spent 2009 gripping onto their chairs or taking Bayer Aspirin to help fight off a heart attack. I still have nightmares about the Raiders game that would almost make Freddy Krueger a preferred nocturnal substitute. The reemergence of our defense in 2010 has settled my terrifying hallucinations and limited my visits to my sport's therapist.
The defense has performed this well, because it has functioned as a unit (and yeah, because Troy Polamalu played more games). However, several players have stood out among them, who I believe could be considered in the defensive player of the year votes. Let's take a moment to compare them with the rest of the defensive standouts across the league, shall we?
Here is a list of players that will most likely be considered for the Defensive Player of the Year award. The players I believe will get strong consideration are highlighted in green. (FF = Forced Fumbles, PD = Passes Deflected, bold indicates league leader):
| Name | Team | Tackles | Sacks | INTs | FF | PD | Def. TD |
| James Harrison | Steelers | 100 | 10.5 | 2 | 6 | 7 | 0 |
| Troy Polamalu | Steelers | 63 | 1.0 | 7 | 1 | 18 | 1 |
| Lawrence Timmons | Steelers | 135 | 3.0 | 2 | 2 | 11 | 0 |
| LaMarr Woodley | Steelers | 50 | 10.0 | 2 | 3 | 7 | 1 |
| Terrell Suggs | Ravens | 68 | 11.0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Ray Lewis | Ravens | 139 | 2.0 | 2 | 5 | 6 | 1 |
| Ed Reed | Ravens | 37 | 0.0 | 8 | 1 | 24 | 0 |
| DeMarcus Ware | Cowboys | 66 | 15.5 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
| Tamba Hali | Chiefs | 52 | 14.5 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| Cameron Wake | Dolphins | 57 | 14.0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Clay Matthews | Packers | 60 | 13.5 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 1 |
| Justin Tuck | Giants | 76 | 11.5 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 0 |
| Osi Umenyiora | Giants | 48 | 11.5 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 0 |
| Devin McCourty | Patriots | 82 | 1.0 | 7 | 2 | 24 | 0 |
| Asante Samuel | Eagles | 26 | 0.0 | 7 | 0 | 21 | 0 |
| Joe Haden | Browns | 64 | 1.0 | 6 | 1 | 24 | 0 |
| DeAngelo Hall | Redskins | 95 | 0.0 | 6 | 2 | 22 | 2 |
| Jerod Mayo | Patriots | 175 | 2.0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
That makes 9 players that I believe will be considered strongly for the award. I selected those players, because I believe the NFL looks at the "sexy" stats and gives the award to the most well-rounded player. The "sexy" stats would be sacks, interceptions, forced fumbles, and defensive TDs. I believe a player like Jerod Mayo, despite his impressive league leading 175 tackles, will not win because he has claimed very few of these numbers. Additionally, a player like Joe Haden may have a ton of one "sexy" stat, but is completely lacking in all of the other categories, which will severely hurt his chances of winning the award. Just take a look at the last 2 DPotY winners: 2009 Charles Woodson (2.0 sacks, 9 INTs, 4 FF, 3 TD) and 2008 James Harrison (16.0 sacks, 1 INT, 7FF, 1 safety).
Below let me explain why I believe those 9 players have a chance and also why they might not win it.
James Harrison
Harrison has been a huge part of the Steelers defensive success this year, as usual. Just by looking at the numbers I believe Harrison is the most well-rounded. Additionally, he has name recognition after winning the award in 2008. However, the NFL will not likely want to award Harrison who has been the poster boy for "illegal" hits this year, albeit he has not gotten fined in 5 games or so. Lastly, Harrison really had no sexy stats in the last 5 weeks of the season with only 0.5 sacks.
Troy Polamalu
Just an absolute beast that already won the Steelers MVP. His sack-fumble in the Ravens game was the turning point in that game and I believe the single play that defined our season. In the last 5 games that Troy played he had 5 interceptions, a sack, a forced fumble, and a touchdown. The fact that Troy missed 2 of the last 3 games may hurt his chances and the fact that he disappeared in the middle of the year will hurt.
Ray Lewis
No surprise here, but the future HoFer had another good year. Very well rounded, but nothing eye-popping in any of the "sexy" stats. Name recognition will probably push him up the voting further than other more deserving candidates, but so it goes. Additionally, he looks ridiculous in his snuggie.
Ed Reed
Despite missing over a third of the season, Reed leads the league in interceptions. He may be out of position occasionally, but when he does get that big interception it always seems to be a game changer, much like Troy. He finished out the season by snatching 4 interceptions in the last two games. However, the missing 6 games hurts him in pretty much every other category.
DeMarcus Ware
Another monster sack year from the monster pass rusher from Dallas. 15.5 sacks is nothing to sneeze at, nor is 6 sacks in the last two games of the season. Unfortunately for him, he was pretty much non-existent in every other category on the board except his 2 forced fumbles. Moreover, he was part of a 6-10 team and the DPotY is almost always on a playoff team.
Clay Matthews
Matthews was pretty much the run-away candidate for the award at the beginning of the year. He recorded 8.5 sacks and a forced fumble in his first 5 games. Since then, he has come back down to Earth and only recorded 5 sacks in the remaining 11 games, which is not bad. The thing that strikes me most though, is that he is a pass rusher with only 2 forced fumbles on the season. When you compare his numbers to Harrison, or any of the well-rounded guys with larger sack numbers, I do not see how you could put this guy above them. Moreover, it is rather revealing when you consider nearly half his sacks came in the first two games of the season.
Osi Umenyiora
That 10 forced fumbles ties an NFL record set by Dwayne Harper in 1993. Any time you set or break a record you are going to get heavy consideration in the vote. Osi actually had back to back to back games where he recorded 2 forced fumbles and 2 or more sacks. The problem is, looking outside of those 3 games, he had an average year with just 4.5 sacks and 4 FF in 13 games. Also, because he plays as a 4-3 end his only job really is to blitz the QB and he does not drop into coverage like a Harrison or Woodley 3-4 OLB. That is the big reason he has little to nothing outside of pass rush numbers.
Devin McCourty
What an insane season for a rookie CB. McCourty really got hot toward the end of the year, tallying 5 of his interceptions, his lone sack, and both of his forced fumbles in the last 7 games. His 24 pass deflections are quite impressive too. What hurts him is that he is a rookie and his stats as a whole are not as impressive as the next guy who plays the same position.
DeAngelo Hall
I would say Hall's year is more impressive, because he had 2 defensive touchdowns. One came from an interception of Jay Cutler and another was off a fumble he forced and recovered. When you include his 6 interceptions and 95 tackles you have to admit he had a good season. His impressive season included a 4 pick game. The reasons I think he cannot win are that he plays for a non-playoff team and two-thirds of his interceptions came in one game.
Decision Time
Personally, I think it comes down to James Harrison, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Osi Umenyiora, and Devin McCourty. I said around the middle of the season that I thought Umenyiora had the best shot of winning the award. It really would not surprise me if he won it. However, if I had to place all my chips on one number, I would go with 43. Troy Polamalu has been such a difference maker this year that it is hard to ignore. He got hot when it mattered most and several of his big plays pretty much won 2 or 3 games for us. I believe that the voters will look at our defense last year and this year and make the same conclusion that everyone does: Troy Polamalu is the heart of the Pittsburgh Steelers defense.
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Agreed
Plus, there’s the embarrassing matter of the Gints’ blowing that 4th quarter lead to the Eagles, something for which every defender on the team should be held responsible.
I’ve read a few times that “the league” would not let Harrison win the award. Do they award it themselves, or is it reporters, coaches, a combo? And if not, do they hold that much sway over voters so as to keep away “unsavory” characters?
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by Flying Polamalus on Jan 7, 2011 1:30 PM EST reply actions
It's a panel of I think 50ish people
I think it is mostly acclaimed sports writers.
I just don’t think the NFL will give it to Harrison, and like I said, I think Troy had a bigger impact than Harrison did this season.
by John Stephens on Jan 7, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
split the votes?
Will having two players from a team in serious consideration tend to split the votes for those players? I think this could be a factor for both the Steelers and Ravens players.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 7, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Nice analysis
I agree, I think Troy will win the Defensive MVP award but as long as it is someone wearing black and gold I will be happy! I don’t see how they can give it to anyone besides Troy or Deebo
by FLsteelhead on Jan 7, 2011 1:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ray Lewis gets credit for garbage tackles
he’s always jumping into a pile on a play that’s already been decided, old man pads his stats.
Phony ass has-been sulks and cries when he loses while sucking on Old Spice sticks, claiming such and such is ‘unfair’,
AND
his geriatric ass was grandfathered into the Pro Bowl. Phony!
Troy is the all around best defensive player this year, he makes more dynamic, game changing plays than anyone else.
Ed Reed is an elderly stud but he cherry picks, no sacks for him because his walker-using ass is plugged deep, and most of his INTs came against bulldookie qbs. Garbage.
Clay Matthews is a pass rushing stud but one-dimensional, he’s nowhere near as multitalented as Deebo, no goddamn way.
Everyone else shivers in the shadow cast by Troy.
Tical.
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Someone if fired up today
I like it
by John Stephens on Jan 7, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I always got an opinion about something ;)
I try to approach every bit of writing with the question:
‘What would Hunter S Thompson do?’
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"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
Good write up BTW
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"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
Something is missing
I realize it’s not the sexiest of the stats, but I always wonder about tackles for a loss. Seems to me like an important stat. They don’t make the photo spreads, but they’re nearly as good as a sack.
You know… I think that’s the problem right there. Tackles for a loss needs to hire the same PR manager who works for sacks. Give tackles for a loss a good make-over and I think we’ve got another column for the charts.
First thing it needs is a better name. The acronym TFAL just doesn’t cut it. That sounds like something Carson Palmer does in the post season. “Sack” has a nice ring to it. Tackles for a loss needs something similar. Yeah… like “dump”. As in, “Did you see Harrison make Reggie Bush take a dump in the backfield?”, or “Ray Rice got dumped by Polamalu for 5 yards.” Hmmm… might be mistaken for a checkdown pass. I’d like to hear some other ideas, but let’s call it a working title for now.
Next, Dump needs a celebrity spokesperson. J-Lo seems the obvious person to speak for the Dumper, but she’s probably not right for the demographic. How about Dump as a costumed mascot? Okay, maybe this isn’t such a good idea. Forget the spokesperson.
A media campaign is the next step. No better time to launch it than the playoffs. We need Suzy Kolber. If she can sell Chevies, she can sell the Dump. Have her go from sideline to sideline asking running backs if they expect to take a dump during the game. Just a montage of reactions to that question would be perfect. No music, no laugh track, no product banner at the top of the screen… It has a reality TV quality to it. Bet that propels Dumps into the limelight in no time.
So, yeah, good post, John.
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Hmmm......
I guess the player making the dump would be the dumpster and the player getting dumped on would be the dumpee.
Makes perfect sense to me.
weighted average
for kicks, I’ve scored each player based on a weighted average each category. For example, since a defensive TD is huge, I gave that 10. The rest: Tackle = 1, Sack = 2, Int = 6, FF = 6, PD = 2.
With this flawed scoring system, DeAngelo Hall gets the nod. Followed by: Troy Polamalu, Devin McCourty, Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware, and Ed Reed
nice write-up.
How many points for making a RB take a dump?
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I vote for a kinder gentler word
I for one, agree with your entire post. I just think dump could be topped with a word that doesn’t conjure up memories of trying to pinch a loaf. I would opt for a kinder, gentler term. One that conjures up nicer memories. One like cream. For example, Did you see Harrison cream Reggie Bush the backfield?", or “Polamalu has 17 creams for a total of 123 yards this year.” As for a mascot, a nice cream pie. You could have J-Lo dressed in a revealing top, holding a nice cream pie. As for Suzi Kolber, she could sell the cream too. Just imagine the commercials these girls could come up with…yeah, I would definitley opt with cream over dump.
by One4theotherthumb on Jan 7, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I would say it is flawed because you gave a pass deflection too much weight. A sack is worth more because you lose plays and the down, where as with a PD you just lose the down. Also, I would say FF are 5, because an INT is definitely a turnover where as a FF might not be.
by John Stephens on Jan 7, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Those stats don’t even begin to weigh the impact of the plays themselves, specifically their timing and outcome on the game. If Hall has a late 4th quarter pick when his team is up 41-0 does that ‘weigh’ the same as when Troy stripped Flacco?
All the players you listed are having worthy seasons defensively, but imho nobody has done that while also making so many dynamic game winning plays as Troy. Deebo is having a monster season, also worthy of the award, but he is over shadowed by Troy this year.
yeah
I’d go along with that. You can’t really assign numbers to it where Troy comes out ahead, but it comes down to the point alistar7 makes below. Troy seems to come up big right when the Steelers need it most.
nice work
Thanks, I enjoyed reading this. I tend to agree with you that Troy’s a difference-maker, but also with Troy that this is a team defense, individual awards aren’t relevant. Also agree with you that Harrison was huge yet again, and he’s there every week. Lots to argue about over a beer.
Big Ben v. Polamalu
I haven’t been as active here as I was last year (it’s been a busy year), so if I missed a Fanpost on this forgive me, but I remember last season a discussion on who is more valuable to the team BB or Troy. Last year it was pretty easily decided that BB was the more important.
But considering the Steelers did just fine without Ben at the beginning of the year and since the Steelers continue to demonstrate that they have a hard time winning when Troy doesn’t play does anyone won’t to make the case that Troy is the most important Steeler on the team?
I think any fan recognizes that the Steeler D is more important than the Steelers offense, so the question becomes does the D hinge on Troy enough that his loss is more deeply felt and injurious to the D than the loss of the less valuable offense’s most valuable player Big Ben.
Anyone?
Very tough call...
Cuz I dont think the Steelers win a SB without either of them. And, I cant think of a player(s) in the entire league that could be substituted, straight across, either.
thanks again
for your hard work on these, always enjoyable to read
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I have heard many people include Haloti Ngata in this discussion. The stats of course are not as sexy as the others, but they usually never are for interior lineman. Much of what Ngata does goes unnoticed, but the man has been unstoppable this year and that is usually a key factor in winning these awards.
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in that case Arron Smith should win maybe not this year though.
Smith is the most underrated DE to play the game.
by steeler_in_maryland on Jan 7, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
Mayo on this list, and not Ngata? Moreover, my rookie candidate would be Suh.
top 5 for consideration
Polamalu
Ngata
Wake
Suggs
Umenyora
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by idiscgolftexas on Jan 7, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Nose Breaking
There’s another stat column in need of some PR lovin’.
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I’m telling you he won’t win. There have been many, many great DL in the NFL that have played at the same level and not even garnered a single vote. I had Ngata on there but I saw how low his numbers were compared to everyone else and took him off. Turnovers created really pushes the vote because they have such a large impact on games. Ngata has like 2 and that’s it.
by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2011 11:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh I am well aware that he won’t win, but low numbers don’t explain all that he has done this year on defense.
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I know, not arguing against it.
by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2011 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree that Ngata has very little chance.
But you have DeAngelo Hall, and DeMarcus Ware on this list as strongly considered. Neither of those players has a snowballs chance, and Ngata has made a big name for himself. I think Ngata has a very outside chance of winning, Hall and Ware have zero.
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by idiscgolftexas on Jan 8, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
BTW
Polamalu is going to win. People outside of Pittsburgh have finally realized that how important he is, and he has had massive splash plays that have turned the tide of season.
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by idiscgolftexas on Jan 8, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
The sack leader does not have a zero chance, I guarantee you he gets votes. Additionally, Hall is just very well rounded in his numbers. Love it or hate it, he will probably draw consideration.
by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ware's numbers were incredibly hallow.
about a third of his sacks came the last three weeks…garbage time. Even the media here in Dallas doesn’t think he had a particularly effective year. If your own media isn’t behind you, forget it. Top that with likely annoyance among some voters that the craptastic 6-10 Cowboys got 5 guys into the pro bowl. He may get a stray vote somewhere, but he has no chance to win. As for Hall, he may have had well rounded year, but he doesn’t stand out among other good DB’s and he plays for a crappy team. The winner of this award is usually playing for a playoff team.
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by idiscgolftexas on Jan 9, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Ware never really had huge droughts in the sack column. His biggest dry spout was 3 games, which is the same as all the other guys. My only argument is that he will be in the top 9 of candidates. Same thing with Hall. I said above:
Personally, I think it comes down to James Harrison, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Osi Umenyiora, and Devin McCourty.Also, the winner is usually on a playoff team, but not always. Jason Taylor in 2006, Ed Reed in 2004, Michael Strahan in 2001. It happens.
by John Stephens on Jan 9, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I will be mad if its Mayo
sure, he has a lot of tackles, but thats it. And tackles can be a misleading stat.
Polamalu has my vote.
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He may not have the stats but he has been given the credit for making the Chicago front four work. I bet Idonije doesn’t have the year he had without Peppers on the other side.
I am not saying he will win but I would be surprised if he wasn’t in the conversation.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 7, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions
I honestly thought about including him, but the impact he has had doesn’t show up in the numbers.
by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2011 12:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is true
but I think it shows up in the final product.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 9, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt
But someone like Troy had the same impact and has the flashy stats.
by John Stephens on Jan 11, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Nice Post
I’ll tell you what else Troy has going for him. He has the image. As opposed to Ben and Deebo, the NFL loves promoting Troy. His style of play, humbleness, saintly work off the field, and hair make him one of the most signature and most marketble players in the league. In my experience here in NY, the majority of NFL fans are indifferent or have dislike towards the majority of our players. Troy is the exception. Every one knows who #43 is, and they either love watching him or have an immense deal of respect for him. All these factors and the fact that Troy had the #1 selling jersey in the league this year (as reported by the post-gazette) will help seal the deal in terms of the popularity contest. We’ll see what happens when the awards are announced within the next couple weeks, but my money is on Troy.
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by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jan 8, 2011 2:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Down to Reed or Polamalu I think
DeAngelo Hall had good games most of the time, but he got creamed by receivers quite alot this season as well.
They’d never give it to a rookie.
Between the 4 pass rushers, I think the only thing that hurts them is that they’re all good. Not one of them is obviously better than the others, and they all have rather equivalent stats (Ware has more sacks, but less INTs and PDs. Umenyiora more FFs, but less tackles, etc)
Ray Lewis is still pretty great, but if they didn’t give it to him the past couple of years in which he was even better they probably won’t give it to him this year.
Umenyiora's forced fumbles are impressive
The fact that the Giants didn’t make the playoffs probably hurts him.
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Not sure who will win...
But unfortunately I don’t think it is someone on the big bad Steelers. We have been getting bad press all year and the commish probably won’t allow it. Between BB and Santonio’s suspensions to start the year, and the fines and “illegal hits” by the defense, I think that even with the year Troy had, he will not win. Doesn’t mean I don’t think he deserves it though!
Troy may not have the stats that are the best BUT
- changes complete offensives and is such a crucial factor in EVERY game..#43 all the way!!!!!
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Take the Chicago game away from Osi and his stats are nothing
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I get the argument...
…But I just can’t agree. I know every single one of us would take just a little offense if someone suggested we take out a game or two or three from any of our players, and disclude those stats. So I say, that game you reference was played within the bounds of this season, it should count. Otherwise, the voters should, as a general rule, take out the best game, and the worst game by any one player, and use those as their stats.
And saying Osi’s stats are “nothing” if you take one game away is pretty strong.
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Ok his stats from that game he will be no where near a possible chance for DPOY
Better?, I hope that will be taken in consideration when somebody from the voting committe says “osi stats are better than anyone else”.
Btw, Cutler also make the redskinks secondary their best game of their franchise history. And for that same reason Deangelo should not be consider too! Take away that game and sorry Deangelo you just got a decent year.
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Then take away everyone else's best game
And Osi remains right around the same spot.
by John Stephens on Jan 11, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
John, Nice Post!
Really well thought out and written, and the arguments seem pretty solid and non-myopic! :)
I agree with you, Troy should get DPOY. Not that he deserves it based on “It’s about time he gets it,” argument, but based solely on this season. We all saw what happened when Troy was out last year….And so was A. Smith, as well. But this year, Troy was back, A. Smith was out again, and we had more rookies and 2nd year players on the field on both sides of the ball than in recent memory…and Troy was, well, Troy.
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