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Steelers Impress in a Win over Jacksonville—Some of the Time

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Well, it was a crazy week in the NFL—or crazier than usual. Coach fights, anyone? Tampa Bay beating the Saints? Cowboys almost beating the Pats? The Dream Team finally pulling one out of their, er, camisole? It may all be unnerving, but you can't say it isn't entertaining. But enough about the rest of the league—how did the Steelers do?

Last season I did a series of game recaps called "A Tale of Two Teams." The Steelers seldom seemed to manage a game in which they were completely dominant, but on the other hand they seldom got completely dominated either. This game would have fit right in to that series, as it had a distinct Dr. Jeckell/Mr. Hyde flavor. 

After a highly satisfying win over Tennessee last week in which the Steelers controlled the field from start to finish on both sides of the ball, Steelers fans were hoping to see more of the same this week over a struggling Jacksonville team. I say that fans were "hoping"—note that I didn't say they were confident. I'm not sure that anybody is certain that they have the 2011 Steelers figured out at this point. 

So our collective glasses are either half full or half empty, according to taste. Yes, we won the game, and if it had been over at halftime we would have all been feeling very confident today. But games are 60 minutes long, and especially in the second half there were a lot of things to concern even the most cock-eyed optimist. So let's break it down a bit.

Star-divide

The Good:

1. A Big, Fat "W."

The Steelers are now 4-2. Given that this means we're tied for 2nd place in the division with a surprisingly good Cincinnati team, it was a win we really needed. Did anybody see Cincinnati coming? Half the players awaiting their jail sentences, franchise QB retires rather than play another season with them, red-headed rookie QB? It's just part of the general craziness this season, I guess.

2. Born to Run.

Rashard Mendenhall looked like an elite back out there. He had a personal-best 68 yard run. His 146 yards on 23 runs gives him an average of 6.35 YPC. And for the "yes, but" people that like to remove the long run from the average, the YPC without that was still a respectable 3.55. Maybe Tomlin should "rest" him more often. 

3. It Takes a Licking and Keeps on Ticking.

The O line wasn't perfect, but I for one am happy with "adequate." They made some holes for the running game. They had some unbelievable moments of pass protection, such as the snap when Ben apparently was looking for an open receiver in a different game. All this while losing yet another member of the starting lineup for the day. 

4. Gutter Balls

The defense held The Bowling Ball to under 100 yards rushing and no TDs. That may not sound like that big a deal if you've been asleep since last season, but I'll take it. Troy stuffing him in the backfield for a loss in the 4th quarter was one of the prettier plays I've seen since, oh, Troy's insane jump of the snap count to almost sack Gabbert during the 2nd quarter..

5. The Return of the Scary Old Guys.

James Farrior had loads of tackles and a sack. Brett Keisel had loads of tackles and 2 sacks as well as a tipped pass. 

6. I'm a Lumberjack and I'm Okay

Woodley had 2 more sacks and continued to be a force for good.  

7. Next In Line

Did anybody notice that Chris Hoke left with a stinger partway through the 2nd quarter? Steve McLendon stepped up in his place without a noticeable dropoff.

8. No Give and Take

This entry will also appear under the "Bad" column. Ben had no interceptions and gave up one fumble. Fortunately the fumble was recovered by Trai Essex, so no harm, no foul, I suppose. Yes, Ben "almost" was picked off at least three times. But strangely enough, nobody keeps a stats list of "almost" picks. And there were at least three "almost" picks by our defense as well, so I suppose this indicates some sort of cosmic balance was being maintained. The main thing is that the Steelers managed to hold onto the ball.

9. Just Make It Stop

After giving up scores on the majority of the opening drives this season, the defense stopped Jacksonville on the 46-yard line, forcing a punt, the first of many for Jacksonville. 

Although Jacksonville is a struggling team, they are an NFL team comprised of professional football players, some of them more professional than others. For whatever reason the Jags have had the Steelers' number, beating them in their last three visits to Heinz Field.

Although many of us wondered for a considerable portion of the final quarter whether they were about to make that 4-0, the Steelers stopped them. Rashean Mathis was essentially a non-factor. MJD scratched us a bit but didn't gash us. Paul Posluszny and Blaine Gabbert got to make their friends and parents at Heinz Field proud without actually putting an L in our Win-Loss column. 

The Bad:

1. The Disappearing Offense

After a terrific first 17 minutes in which the Steelers put up two touchdowns, they seemed to lose interest. The only other score was less than 3 minutes later, when we couldn't punch it in on 3 attempts from the JAC 2 yard line, instead settling for a field goal.

2.  Special Teams Were—Special

There were a couple of big special-teams game changers, and not in a good way.

The first was early in the 3rd quarter. The defense had stopped the opening 3rd quarter drive, with a little help from an inopportune Jacksonville penalty, right where they began, at their own 20. The ensuing punt should have given the Steelers great field position. 

I say "should," because a failed attempt to block the punt by Ryan Mundy instead gave the ball back to Jacksonville and put the defense back on the field. 14 plays later Gabbert threw a TD as Larry Foote got there a second too late. This not only made it a one-score game but seemed to give Jacksonville new life.

To be fair to Mundy, had he succeeded in blocking the punt, we would all be talking about that play very differently. But if you're going to try it, you at least have to make sure you don't get the penalty, even if you miss the punt.

The second was a shanked Sepulveda punt halfway through the 3rd quarter, giving Jacksonville the ball essentially at midfield. The Jags managed to convert it to a field goal. 

There was also a third fail by special teams that could have burned us badly. At just over 4 minutes to play in the 2nd quarter, Shaun Suisham missed a 46-yard field goal attempt.  This gave Jacksonville the ball at their own 36 with plenty of time to do something with it. Fortunately the defense forced a three-and-out, ending with Farrior's sack.

A holding call on the return team during the punt return at 3:23 in the 2nd quarter that backed the Steelers up to their 12-yard line wasn't all that helpful, either. 

3. Good Ben, Bad Ben

After starting the game looking like the guy that torched the Titans last week for 5 TDs, Ben seemed to suddenly become concerned about the self-esteem of the Jacksonville secondary, and started throwing a bunch of deep bombs that weren't finding their intended targets.

I haven't had time to go back and study those in detail, and in any case it's usually hard to say definitively which of those were on Ben and which were on the receivers. One can certainly say, though, that it is fair to correlate the decreased number of short/intermediate throws with the increased number of sacks. He was sacked three times, despite a 55/45 run/pass ratio.

And what was with the Delay of Game penalty, Ben?

4. Calling Lawrence Timmons!

Was Timmons actually on the field yesterday? I'm pretty sure he was, but I sure can't find him on the stat sheet.

5. Go Back to the House, Young Man!

Despite a lot of talk, Antonio Brown not only didn't take one to the house, he didn't take one much of anywhere, with a 2-yard average on punt returns. To be fair, his one kickoff return was 34 yards. But at this point I would suggest he put a cork in it until he actually does have a return for a TD. And then I would suggest that he act like he's been in the end zone before.

6. No Offense

After out-gaining Jacksonville 315 yards to 68 in the first half, the Steelers only managed another 55 yards in the rest of the game.

And finally,

7. No Give and Take

This entry also appeared under the "Good" column. Once again our defense came up short in the takeaway category, but they had at least three "almost" picks. In fact, Ike Taylor managed to defend a pick by Ryan Clark on the last play of the game, thus ensuring that Clark didn't show him up. On the other side of the ball, Ben was almost picked off three times, so I suppose this indicates some sort of cosmic balance was being maintained. Unfortunately, this cosmic balance still leaves us -10 in turnovers.

 

The game ball, in my opinion, goes to Keisel. Mendenhall had a great game, but Keisel was like a man possessed. Arguably the biggest play of the game was his sack with 1:01 left in the game that not only took 25 seconds off the clock but took the stuffing out of Gabbert.

Well, that's all I've got. I would love to diagram a play or two from the game, but tonight is the first dress rehearsal for my fall concerts, so it will have to wait.  What were your yin/yang observations?

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Great photo...Love it.

Great write up, but i disagree about one thing. I do NOT want him acting like he’s been there. I want the dancing, the having fun, the enthusiasm, the passion, all of that.

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Glad you liked the photo -

it’s a favorite of mine. To expand on the celebration part, I don’t object to the guys having fun and even feeling happy and proud. I object to the kind of attitude, though, that leads to taunting penalties.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, i'd want him to be smart enough to know when to quit

But most of the time, when you see a really good team, they are out there having fun…When the young guys are having fun, it can make the older guys feel like kids again (example…your awesome picture that is now my desktop). Of course i don’t want them being stupid, but i want them to be having fun out there.

By the way, would you happen to know what game that pic is from? or did you randomly stumble across it?

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pic

is from the AFC Championship Game, after they sacked Mark Sanchez.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Good #2

Are you insinuating that Mendenhall was not necessarily injured, but benched? If so, I agree with you on that one. I was at the titans game last week and he did seem fine when warming up in the 4th quarter just in case they put him in. For whatever reason he did not play last week, it sure fired him up for this week

by mtsnot on Oct 17, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that you are correct

Benching can be a motivator. I hope that Hampton can get motivated.

by Allen F on Oct 17, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think him

Smith, and Hampton were all benched, but to not embarrass them publicly they were listed on the injury report.
Classy move IMO..
Maybe Smith gets in to game shape and makes a difference down the road? One can only hope.
Same with Hampton..

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both of them may be done

especially Smith. I think it’s time for him to “get on with his life’s work.”

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 17, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope that, especially Casey is working out while he is sitting

I think that it is a major problem with him (being out of shape). Look at the change in Ngata of the Ravens. He is much faster this year. I think that Smith has lost confidence in himself and it is contributing heavily to his decline. Just my opinion.

by Allen F on Oct 17, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good points

I loved Keisel on the line, but where was Hood today? Didn’t do a whole lot really. Keisel though is a beast and honestly it’s amazing how he continues to progress year after year despite being older each time.

Absolutely no balance on offense in the second half. And not enough Redman.

Coaching wasn’t pretty in this one, it’s a concern.

by Mechem on Oct 17, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

The coaching (and lack thereof) was what had me most concerned. At times, this team looks lost, even with all their talent. Considering how many veterans they have, that shouldn’t happen, and my guess is that responsibility lands with the people in charge.

Special teams looked especially lousy.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Oct 17, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what you're saying,

but this is essentially the same coaching staff that coached them to the Super Bowl last year.

As a choral director I take the blame for a poor performance. The reality is, though, that unlike a solo performance where it really is all on me, in an ensemble I can only do so much. Am I missing a lot of “starters” and have to rely on less-experienced subs? Do I have people who have blown their assignments and come to the performance inadequately prepared? After all, the time I spend with them is only part of the story. They have preparation, both physical and mental, that they have to do without my help. And so on.

Again, I’m not letting them off the hook for some of the problems yesterday, but I can’t see how those problems can entirely be laid at their feet.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes But

All things are arians fault

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit."
--Aristotle

by steelerstyle on Oct 17, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I approve this message

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 17, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankly, maybe Tomlin isn't the quality Head Coach we all think he is...

…or maybe he’s giving his assistants too much leeway “out of respect for their tenure”? I don’t know, but this habit of playing down to the competition, to letting up or trying to force a game plan that just isn’t working is getting more and more prevalent. I harken back to the two playoff games we won last year, as well as the Super Bowl as examples. And of the melt down of 2009, we are still seeing echos of that today.

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by PaVaSteeler on Oct 17, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice perspective

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 17, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

fo sho

i wonder what our fans would have said about Cowher during his tenure.
I bet it would have been a lot worse than what we say about Tomlin/Arians

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

I think you’re way off mark to criticize BC for those losses. He NEVER had a mature star QB to play for him in his losses. He had a rookie, Kordell and O’Donnell – none of which will even remotely spark fear in the opponent. As soon as he had a decent QB he won a SB.

by slaken on Oct 18, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i could see that if

teams like the Ravens, and Bucs never won a Super Bowl

by FrankWyt on Oct 18, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

so did tomlin

whats your point?

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the point????

The point is that Tomlin has ALWAYS had a franchise QB. The point is that Cowher had to face the likes of Tom Brady to get to a SB. He had to face Troy Aikman in the SB…. The Ravens and Bucs faced average QB’s on the way to and in the SB. Cowher’s problem is that he took teams to the AFCG when he had terrible QB’s.

by slaken on Oct 19, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree on that

Despite the ridiculous level of talent this team has had over the past few seasons, I would argue that they have under-performed a lot. 2009 was clearly the biggest example, but the other indicators, as you mentioned, are not putting teams away, and playing down to their level of competition.

Also, despite the winning record, I still have a problem with Arians as O-Coordinator, and the consistently poor special teams on a fairly regular basis. Add to that the fact that, in years following super bowl trips, the team just looks under-motivated.

I know I’m complaining as a member of a fan-base that has it good, but this is a team that keeps not fixing a lot of things that are problems. It’s clearly come to bite them in the rear on the O-line, so what I want to see is for them to address the small things before they become bigger.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Oct 17, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will say a different version of the same thing

Do you happen to remember how dominant our defense was throughout Cowher’s tenure?
There is no excuse in the world why there shouldn’t have been at least 3 more trophies added during his time.
In Tomlins 4 full seasons as coach, they’ve gone 10-6, made the playoffs, gone 12-4, won the super bowl, 9-7, didn’t qualify, and 12-4, made the super bowl.
what more do you need?

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

19-0

and every win by 20 points.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 17, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hmmm

i suppose that would be nice, however, this isn’t college football, you HAVE to play other good teams.

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like your thinking Tann

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 17, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the big picture

you are absolutely right- the team has done tremendously well.

Mostly though, in terms of measuring them against themselves, I just want to see them fix the things they do poorly more consistently. Regardless of the outcome in terms of overall success. That’s the thing that I am looking for. Watching the same things go wrong is frustrating.

Getting better at the things they KEEP not doing well is what I want to see.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Oct 17, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

p.s.

I know that’s a lot to ask, and that these are the problems of a fanbase that has gotten (too?) used to incredible success. I was just answering your question.

p.p.s. I also want to see more games like the one against the Titans- not so much the results, I don’t actually care about that as much- I just want to see that kind of EFFORT completely.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Oct 17, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i know, yesterday was frustrating sort of

even though the game was never really in doubt, in my mind.
Yeah, more performances like the Titans game would be nice, but the other team is getting paid too. Some guys/teams elevate themselves when they play teams like the big bad Steelers.

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are some

times when the player has to be held accountable though. And i’m guessing that since Smith, Hampton, and Mendenhall were “injured”, they are doing what they can to fix the problem.
I still don’t think throwing the deep ball yesterday was bad at all. That’s on Ben, they had their men beat every time, he just didn’t get it in there.

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

And while I don’t know if that’s consistently the best approach, I liked the results it showed during the Titans game, and with Mendenhall this week. He was motivated, and wanted to be there. That passion is largely what has seemed to be lacking from the team this season.

Well, passion and an offensive line. But even that is getting a little better, and Starks’ return has helped.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Oct 17, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

VERY TRUE about Hood

I don’t know, I had such high hopes for Ziggy, but it almost looks like Cameron Heyward is adapting better to the defense.
I am pretty confident Heyward is going to great for years to come.
I am not so sure about Ziggy…

by Vtechnwn on Oct 17, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is

He made SUCH a leap last year- I have to think he is playing hurt or banged up in a way that is hampering his effectiveness. Or, maybe the lockout hurt, and he just didn’t report in shape, and is still working his way back in.

If he hadn’t played better last year, I would think maybe his ceiling just wasn’t that high. But he was GOOD last year, and I think still can be.

Heyward, btw, is looking more and more like a steal.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Oct 17, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You summed it up VERY well

Good Ben/Bad Ben.He forgot to “dance with the girl he brung” in the second half and threw off the rhythm of the Offense. The OL have not gotten their rhythm together to protect for the 5 seconds needed (or more) for Ben to find the open receiver downfield. Also Ben was overthrowing receivers. The disappearing Timmons act was a factor on defense. He has not quite found a comfort zone at ROLB. We really miss Deebo’s presence there. We were not getting the push up the middle that we got from Hoke and McClendon last week. But I do see progress. We just need consistency.

by Allen F on Oct 17, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Ben/Bad Ben has a lot to do with the defense. After we successfully stretched the field, hitting on some long passes, Jacksonville adjusted by playing 3-deep pretty much the rest of the way. This is where I really get irritated with the Roethlisberger-Arians brain trust. Underneath the coverage there was plenty of space, so much so that hitting a receiver on a slant, a back on an out route, or a TE on a crossing route, would have gashed the Jaguars for big yardage. Yet instead of taking what the defense is not only giving him, but has nicely giftwrapped for him, he chucks the ball down the field into double and triple coverage.

We could have scored another 20+ points if we hadn’t swung for the fences on every passing play in the 2nd half.

by Steel Gator on Oct 17, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, other me

You are/I am so right. I didn’t even see one of Arians’ beloved WR screens. You can’t go over the top all game long, and why would you even try when your quarterback is out of rhythm, you’ve already got a comfortable lead against a weak offense, and you’ve got room underneath for your speedy young WR’s to catch a ball on the run and do what WR’s love to do?

by Steelgator on Oct 17, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you split yourself into two so you could be two different bloggers?

Because it would be really cool if you did.

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 17, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

BA

I agree, gator. The offense seems to have a game plan going in and refuses to adapt to the change in defense or weather conditions. The wind picked up in the second half and it seemed to affect Ben.

Two things I did see that I did like is that they left Redman in to block on third down and he did a great job. Also, Ben used a snap count at home instead of the usual hike on the second leg lift. I can’t remember the last time Ben barked out the snap count even at home in the shot gun. He actually drew them offsides which is rare for us.

by Yount on Oct 17, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the description for #6 under The Good. It seems more appropriate for Kiesel, but I suppose Woodley has the name for it.

Foote can be the goat in pass coverage, but I’d swear he somehow makes Farrior play better. I dunno if it’s a chemistry thing, or just different assignments from the coaches when Foote is on the field… whatever… it works.

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by Varmint on Oct 17, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking that too

Farrior played a good game and I thought Foote may have had something to do with that.

by Yount on Oct 17, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good summation

Two things I have gotten tired of seeing from the Steelers:

Yesterday, I got tired of seeing Ben overthrow the deep ball.

Over the years, I am tired of seeing the Steelers dominate games statistically but not put them away on the scoreboard. Yesterday felt like the ‘94 AFCCG all over again, except we actually held on to win. That is my biggest complaint against Arians, has been my biggest complaint against him, and will be until he starts coaching like Bill Walsh (ok, I know, that’s extreme).

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 17, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Have not rewatched yet but,

it looked to me they went back to the everybody go long offense in the second half, instead of sticking with what worked so well the week before and in the 1st half.
I’m leaning towards blaming BA, since he said he was going back to “normal”.

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by SNW on Oct 17, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't have time to watch again just yet

but I went through the box score for the second half. There were 15 rushes and 8 pass plays. Two of the rushes were Ben, so we can assume that they were broken pass plays. Of the 8 pass plays, there were 2 short throws, 3 long throws, and 3 sacks.

The 2 short throws ended in 1 completion, to Hines, and an incomplete to Heath. The 3 long throws were to Heath, Sanders, and Wallace, and all were incomplete. Presumably the sacks were long attempts, although there could be a coverage sack in there – I’ll have to look at them later.

Wallace missed his throw – my son commented yesterday that it looked as if he got the sun in his eyes and couldn’t find the ball. He certainly pulled up. Sanders let the ball go right through his hands, almost giving the DB nearby a pick. I think Heath’s throw was knocked away. At any rate, if the guys had managed to pull those in, we would have had another 38 point game.

I think that Jacksonville was defending the short stuff pretty well, thus opening up the long balls. It’s just that Ben and the receivers weren’t quite on the same page.

But at any rate we can hardly fault the run/pass ratio. And we don’t know who to fault for the incompletions and maybe never will. The guys will say they were open. Ben will say it’s his fault. And good for him for not throwing them under the bus. But Sanders at least should have hauled that in.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Head Coach. Bad

He needs to be calling TO’s at the end of the first half. I’m baffled as to why he’s keeping them in his pocket.

He needs to gain back that teams focus in the second half. After Ben and BA decided it was7 on 7 drills for the rest of the game. Very ugly deep balls.

Where is Redman? He needs the rock in the second half. He’s earned that. Some between the tackles pounding would have been nice.

by delisixburgh on Oct 17, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess he erred on the side of caution. See what I did there coach T. ? Misappropriation of meaning when you’re trying to sound smart makes you sound phony…

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

they did call the timeout late, maybe hoping for a block
but maybe he didn’t call the time out because they didn’t want to push it with what was seemingly an insurmountable lead.

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

there’s a special thing in your pension where you get paid for unused timeouts – sort of like sick days or something. Otherwise it is hard to understand what he was saving them for.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Back to the 2007 draft

Remember all those guys saying we should have picked Poz over Lawrence Timmons? I must admit I was one of them. I have to say yesterday didn’t prove us wrong.

While we’re in fantasy land, imagine this : we trade our 15 spot to the Brownies (who were looking for Brady Quinn) for their 35 and their no. 1 in 2008 (similar to the deal they struck with New England). We then move up a few spots using our 3rd (sorry Matt Spaeth “fans”, we can always pick Brent Celek in the 5th) and pick Poz. And then, in 08, BINGO! we pick Ryan Clady. Thinks we’re a better team?

Aaaah, to dream the dream…

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I might be reading it wrong, but are seriously trying to make a case for Paul Posluszny over Timmons?

One guy is still playing for the team that drafted him, and the other guy playing for a team that is irrelevant. Poz might be a good player, but he doesn’t have half the ability of Timmons.

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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 17, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I messed up

On my trade info, the Browns trade was with the Cowboys, not the Pats. Tan, of course I know about hindsight’s perfect vision, I was just having fun. And StoneCold, fyi, one guy had 16 tackles yesterday and the other, while earning more money, had none. That’s all I’m saying. As for your statement that Poz doesn’t have half of Timmons’ ability, I agree that Timmons is more explosive, but Poz is more productive. That is the exact argument I was making on draft day in 07…

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its all good

nothing wrong with fun

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 17, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

One analysis is nice, but I'll take a full season of Timmons over Poz anyday

And I’d like to see if Poz would have the same production if he were asked to rush the passer and set the edge in a 3-4, as Timmons is asked to do.

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 17, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Poz is probably not as versatile, but 0 tackles is pretty easy to beat! I still think he would be a great 34 ILB, even though we may never know. Still, you have a right to prefer Timmons, he is a very talented player with tremendous potential. You can’t knock Poz though, he’s been great on some bad teams. I don’t think we have a major argument either way as to who’s the best yet. Question with TImmons is, when will potential turn into dominance? Hasn’t happened yet for a full season. We’ll see…

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poz has the best last name

But would you trade Lawrence Timmons for Patrick Willis?

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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 17, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell yes

Timmons may be a top 10 LB in the league, but I think Willis is top 5.

by SteelersVT on Oct 17, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a minute

Timmons has the potential to be a top 10 LB in the league, but Willis has arrived a long time ago. Much more accomplished player. But guys, don’t get me wrong, I love Timmons, I just hope the light comes on and he becomes the dominant force he can be.

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Timmons

was playing OLB, a.k.a. a position he hasn’t played in over five years. Your argument is, honestly, terrible.

Timmons at ILB > Poz at MLB hands down.

by Riddlah. on Oct 17, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your argument is excellent and well thought out, thank you for your learned analysis. I stand corrected.

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool sarcasm.

But I apologize for snapping at you (can you snap through text?), it’s just that I find the anger at Timmons unjustified and annoying at this point.

by Riddlah. on Oct 17, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

None here

Love the guy, expect more is all. And yes, I do think Poz is a player too.

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?
Timmons is more explosive, but Poz is more productive

Just because he has more tackles? Are we not considering that Timmons has 11 more career sacks? 3 more FFs?

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by John Stephens on Oct 18, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

poz has spent more time injured and on worse teams.

by klompus on Oct 18, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a big reason his tackle numbers are probably amped up. And Timmons spent 2009 injured. Anyway, Poz has started more NFL games than Timmons has. 45-36 (and that 36 includes the 2 at OLB).

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by John Stephens on Oct 18, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

forgot about 09. and the 2 at OLB should count as -2 hah

by klompus on Oct 18, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Timmons

Timmons isn’t playing his normal position, so cut him little slack. Remember, he is playing outside linebacker in substitution for James Harrison, while Foote and Farrior take the inside slots.

Also, you thought the offensive line played well? I totally agree with you …. up until Legursky got hurt. After that it was a horror-show.

grain of salt

by PaulMorel on Oct 17, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

in re Timmons,

good point, and to be fair Keisel got his last sack after Timmons collapsed the line. I guess I just hoped to see more from a guy who has played some amount of OLB (and I believe was an OLB when drafted) and who just got signed to a seriously big contract.

The line was definitely better before Legursky got hurt. But it was also better before Ben started throwing 50 yards downfield on most passing plays. I’m not necessarily blaming him for doing that – see my comment above – but it is a lot harder to hold the defense back for 5 seconds than 1 or 2. Admittedly the run game didn’t get very far in the second half either…

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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

But remember when Harrison was the 5th linebacker in our defense? When he came in he made plays regardless of the position they put him in. That’s what I expect from Timmons. Helping others make plays is nice, but where’s the dominating force the FO paid top dollar for?

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, I certainly want to see players playing to their full potential.

But keep in mind that we didn’t hear Timmons name all game. Like not hearing a cornerback’s name, this is probably a good thing. This probably means that he stayed in his gaps in run coverage, and he didn’t blow any coverage assignments …. so I don’t know … I think he did fine, but I am not an “expert”.

grain of salt

by PaulMorel on Oct 17, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a corner, it’s good, for a ROLB in a 34 it’s pretty bad. The system is designed for them to make plays. But it’s only a game. Hopefully he picks it up…

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

For an outside linebacker who has been training for the past four years to play at inside linebacker?

sigh … if you say so…

grain of salt

by PaulMorel on Oct 17, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul I acknowledged that, but if he’s been 4 years in the system, has played the position before, is put in the game by the coaching staff because he has the skill set to do the job, why should we not expect him to make plays? Aren’t we allowed to criticize a bad game or has he attained St-Redman status and is therefore beyond earthly criticism? Don’t sigh on me for being concerned, I think I we both have valid points here.

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't bother.

He’s obsessed with tackles, the most overrated stat ever.

by Riddlah. on Oct 17, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding

Jeez, what’s with all this hate? I completely understand that tackles are not a reliable stat because they depend on scheme, time spent on the field by the defense and the quality of the personnel around you. They don’t always indicate how much success you’ve had within the scheme or how sound you were. It’s nice when backers have a few though, that’s still part of their job. Sacks are good too, passes defensed, fumbles created or recovered, picks, any one of those would have been nice to see. But we didn’t.

I really like TImmons, I’m glad we have him and I’ve said so, I’m just saying the other guy is different but pretty good and had himself a better game. Is that a cardinal sin?

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course Poz is going to have a better game.

He was actually playing at his natural position while Timmons wasn’t, and to compare those two off of that one game is foolish. Overall, Timmons is the better player, just not when he plays OLB.

by Riddlah. on Oct 17, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was all in good fun, nothing serious…

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe cuz you stank?

I don’t know, i was just chiming in without reading the rest of the convo…I love you though! Who cares what Riddlah thinks, he’s got a mean daddy. Apparently meaner than mine, but i don’t agree

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

This debate is just teeming with insightful intellectual gems. This crowd is too smart for my limited means I’m afraid, I’m going to have to resume slowly destroying my brain with beer…

Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"

by Steelfrog on Oct 17, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you insinuating that i'm an idiot?

the fundamental question is, will I be as effective as a boss like my dad was, and I will be. Even more so
But until I am, it’s gonna be hard to verify that I think I’ll be more effective.

How’s that for intellectual?

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think youve mistaken the fundamental question

by klompus on Oct 18, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably

But I love Little Carmine, and he’s my measuring stick of all things idiotic

by FrankWyt on Oct 18, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im much less impressed with the performance

Seems to me we played 1 1/2 q’s of football… and was especially disappointed with the cocky appoach in the second quarter throwing deep 3 and out… take a 70 yr run off mendy’s stats and he was average at best for the game.. I saw a big drop off when Legursky got hurt, and his injury could be a long term issue… their were a few isolated good plays on offense and defense, but on a whole the team played sloppily… a performance like this will not get us past a Cinny or Clev, much less NE or the Raven…and we our on the outside looking in for a wildcard spot… At this point with our play I dont see a playoff appearence this yr.

by OR69faithfull on Oct 17, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I would not want to get kicked in the face by Kiesel.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 17, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, MaLoR -

congrats on the Ravens win yesterday. Not that I’m happy about it… : )

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. They were a damn tough team.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 17, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

we noticed. You guys were fortunate not to have to deal with Mario Williams. He introduced himself to Ben over and over…

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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, but I am not sure if Mario Williams meant a 15 point margin of victory improvement for Houston.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 17, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

if he improves their run defense either. I think Andre is a bigger factor, he is worth 15 points in himself.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 17, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, he was a much bigger factor than Mario. But, whatever. Gotta line up against who they throw in there. Not my problem.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 17, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely -

not trying to take anything away from your W.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if anyone mentioned it

But there seemed to be a pretty serious drop off in the run defense when Hoke went down. It was right around that time that MJD went from 3-5 yard runs to 5+ runs. I think Hampton and Hoke are a lot better than McLendon. McLendon is stout in small doses, not long stints.

On Timmons, I mentioned in Simon’s post that he had a really bad game against the Titans. Someone was shocked that I said that, but it’s true. He is just completely out of position at OLB. Worilds needs to man the hell up and get active.

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by John Stephens on Oct 17, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Worilds practiced some this past week, but didn't show he was healthy enough for game action

I think he’ll be ready to come back this week.

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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 17, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

In re McLendon,

I’m not sure what point in the 2nd quarter Hoke went out. But beginning at 10:55 into the second quarter the Jags got 3 yards. In the 2nd half of the game they got 58 yards. So by my calculations the Jaguars got 72 of their 133 total rushing yards during the first 26 minutes of the game and the the remaining 61 yards in the next 35 minutes. And that was also considering that they possessed the ball a lot more in the 2nd half than the first. (17:08 vs. 11:39 if I counted correctly.)

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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gosh, that was convoluted.

Try again. In the remaining 4 minutes+ of the 2nd quarter the Jags got 3 yards. They picked up 72 rushing yards in the first 26 minutes of the game and the remaining 62 in the final 34 minutes.

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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Hoke went down pretty early

I was even surprised to hear it was the 2nd quarter. I wouldn’t be shocked if a lot of those yards were afterward.

I’ll take a look tonight exactly when Hoke went down and what the differences were.

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by John Stephens on Oct 17, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha -

I have no idea, and you may well be right if he went down a lot earlier.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

the steelers

are the only team that manages to consistently obliterate teams in every statistical category yet still manage to keep the score uncomfortably close. I mean they dont do it every game but every season the steelers have at least a few games where they dominate teams on the field but somehow the game always goes down to the wire.
     But a win is a win, I just wish Pittsburgh would blow out lesser teams the way they are supposed to.
     And I love me some Brett Kiesel. Playing like a pro bowler again this year. With Smith and Hampton out Kiesel’s veteran presence and great play are very welcomed indeed. That beard is gonna be beastly come December once again.

by blitzzburgh on Oct 17, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you notice

that one of the announcers credited the beard with a tackle – Keisel was blocking one guy whilst tackling another…

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did hear them talk about being tackled by the beard!

That made me laugh and start to think about his beard being it’s own entity for the defense.

I like sports and I don't care who knows.

by Drea1020 on Oct 17, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like a 12th man on the field -

one the refs can’t penalize.

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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this is a good opportunity

to pass along a link that 1BlknGld put up on another thread. It is the latest H&S commercial, featuring The Beard.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 17, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the link

I had heard about the commercial but hadn’t seen it.

"Canada is a great country, one of the hopes of the world. We can be a better one – a country of greater equality, justice, and opportunity." Jack Layton (R.I.P.)

"My city's still breathing (but barely it's true) through buildings gone missing like teeth. The sidewalks are watching me think about you, all sparkled with broken glass. I'm back with scars to show. Back with the streets I know. They never take me anywhere but here. " John K Samson (Left and Leaving)

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 17, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great commercial!

I haven’t been a fan of Troy’s H&S ads but this one was great! Maybe ‘cause there were THREE Steelers in this one and the humor played off of each one’s personality.

by Citizen of Steeler Nation on Oct 17, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOVE IT!

thank you…’
It’s nice to see Diesel get some WELL DESERVED attention outside the game.
I’m so glad each one of those guys is on my team

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife heard that

she laughed

"Canada is a great country, one of the hopes of the world. We can be a better one – a country of greater equality, justice, and opportunity." Jack Layton (R.I.P.)

"My city's still breathing (but barely it's true) through buildings gone missing like teeth. The sidewalks are watching me think about you, all sparkled with broken glass. I'm back with scars to show. Back with the streets I know. They never take me anywhere but here. " John K Samson (Left and Leaving)

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 17, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 Step Stutter + Dropoff

Excellent write up and honest appraisal of both the good and the bad.

I have not and will not have time to review the tape, but the wheels seemed to come off the passing game right after Mendy’s long run. It seems like as soon as the Steelers were up, Arians/Roethlisberger went back to 7 Step Drops.

So the Steelers passing game was nearly flawless for 20 minutes, and hapless for the rest. Kind of wired as Ben was getting time.

Regarding the running game, I too noticed that McLendon came in for Hoke — the announcers completely missed that one. However, I did notice a drop off. Not a huge one, but enough of a drop off that allowed Marcus Dew-Jones to run well enough to give the rookie QB the comfort he needed not to feel like he had to win the game all by himself.

At the end of the day, my glass is half full, because although they were maddeningly inconsistent, it seems like most of the flaws evident in the Steelers Juking of the Jaguars are fixable. (For a more detailed analysis along those lines, click here.)

by Hombre de Acero on Oct 17, 2011 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Another frustrating game...

But as you said, we won, and that’s what mattered… Personally, I think the ‘roughing the kicker’ penalty was a bunch of BS. You can’t change your trajectory while you’re already in the air, it obviously wasn’t a blatant hit intended to injure, and so on. I know it’s how the rule is written, but I’ve always thought it was ridiculous, it’s one that needs to be written to make a little more sense, but we all know that as far as the new rules go, ‘sense’ doesn’t factor into the equation.

by Mikey1969 on Oct 17, 2011 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Troy and otherthings

There comes a point in a career of a really great player remains the smartest guy on the field, but there is some minor but detectable drop-off. I think that’swhat we are seeing with Troy. On one play, he ended up in the backfield, freakishly aware of snap counts better than anyone on the field. However, there was another play where he had the possibility of making an interception, a very difficult one to be sure, but his reactions were a nanosecond slower. I think that is why the interceptions are not coming as often.

Frankly, looking across the performances from an execution perspective, I was not dissatisfied. Ben got sacked only twice, so I would say the O- Line was okay… with one exception. Essex could neither pull to the right, nor block to the left as a LG. Mendy was good, but he was noticeably better when David Johnson was in the game. Ben missed multiple deep balls, so he seemed most suspect.

On D, Keisel was great. Woodley did what he was supposed to do against an inexperienced RT. Timmans disappeared, again. Not sure if that was schematic or performance- driven.

Where this team most underperformed yesterday, though, was in coaching. BA willfully went away from the two TE sets that worked in TN. He slavishly went back to the deep ball, and there was almost no possession passing game. The play calling near the goal line when we were up by 14 was silly. Tomlin again had problems in managing timeouts. Special teams had a tough day. Someone needed to make sure Mundy knew that 4th and 25, up by 14, is not the time to risk a roughing penalty. Suisham apparently was aiming for my house on his miss. And halftime apparently continues to be nothing more than recess.

by Steelzombie on Oct 17, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

good one

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit."
--Aristotle

by steelerstyle on Oct 17, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought ryan clark stole ikes pick personally, that punk

by klompus on Oct 17, 2011 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

come on

you know he wouldn’t have caught it.. We’re talking about T Squared here.

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

by the way, what does that even mean?

He doesn’t have two T’s in any of his names He doesn’t have a middle name as far as i know, his first name is Ivan….what does t squared mean?

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

When the world never seems
to be living up to your dreams
it’s time you started finding out
what everything is all about

you take the good, you take the bad
you take them both and there you have
the facts of life

Somehow this seemed relevant

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Have you met Fred Nash recently?

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 17, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to be confused with steve nash

by klompus on Oct 17, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that a character from the show?

If so, i apologize for that going over my head.

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's poster that posts all his thought exactly like you did

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 17, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you mean in poem form?

I do like to write, but that’s the theme from the TV show “Facts of Life”

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, that is fucked up

I just read kk99’s salary cap story…you’re seriously saying I’m like that?

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have a great gift for rhyme

Whether you meant to or not, thanks for reminding me of anniversary of the most quotable movie ever.

by gostevego on Oct 17, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

but

I gotsta rhyme all the time, or i’m going out my mind
you just think i’m outta line, cuz you don’t wanna see me shine…

by FrankWyt on Oct 17, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random Fact

Antonio Brown is 4th all time in receptions in the FBS

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Oct 17, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  


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