Ask Revenge Of The Birds
by Jess Root on Oct 19, 2011 1:40 AM EDT
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PrintI don't know if you guys have the tradition of doing it, but I'm Jess Root, the guy that runs Revenge of the Birds, the SB Nation Cardinals blog. I know you guys have the answers about everything, being that you are fans of the team that just keeps winning Super Bowls and stuff, but maybe you have a few questions for us who know the Cardinals. (I'm not bitter at all about that "catch" by Santonio Holmes.)
If you do have any inquiries, you know what to do. Leave comments. I and probably others of ROTB will be by periodically to answer.
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What the general fanbase opinion about...
Ken Wisenhunt: how long do you think the owner is behind him and
willing to wait for him to put putting a competitive (playoff caliber) team?
Larry Fitzgerald: what most fans thing about the money that he received?
1rst round pick: Which position the fanbase want the FO to address in the first round of next years draft?
Ray Horton: What you guys think of the job that he has been doing so far?
Patrick Peterson: is he good as advertised?
Answers:
On Whiz: Next year is critical and maybe before if attendance starts dropping (losing sellouts)
Fitz: It was a lot of money, but the fans have mostly been applauding the fact that the franchise is willing to pay him.
Draft: OFFENSIVE LINE
Horton: Fans are high on him, but unhappy with how defense has played
PP: Having issues in coverage sometimes, but is electric to watch in return game. He looks like he will be as good as advertised.
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The Cardinals are known in Pittsburgh circles as “Steelers West.” How do you feel about that nickname?
If it gets championships
then cool. But aside from bringing in a few former Steelers as players and coaches, the two teams don’t look alike.
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"maybe you have a few questions for us who know the Cardinals."
I think Larry Fitzgerald is the only guy on your team that wasn’t once a Steeler… and he went to Pitt, so we know him too!
(just teasin’ you a little~ welcome to BTSC and hope you brought a sense of humor with you. We have Arn. You’ll need it.)
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
I hear you have cheerleaders....Can you prove this? We need strong VISUAL evidence
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2011 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Note to Jess Root -
Arn will NOT quit bugging you until you post pictures. It is one of the crosses that opposing teams’ fans have to bear when doing these Q & As.
And in the interests of fairness, I don’t suppose you could post any pics of fine-looking players, could you? I’m personally fond of Larry Fitz…
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 19, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
or how about Stewart Bradley #52....YUMMY!!!
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Oct 19, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Bradley and a Cheerleader
Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan
Phoenix Suns, Arizona Diamondbacks, Phoenix Coyotes, Arizona Rattlers fan
[I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
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You, sir,
are a scholar and a gentleman!
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 19, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
well done....LOL!!!
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Oct 19, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey...your steelness
So do you want to do a HDM or what?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
no thanks....
but if you are HOT then go for it….like I said we ladies enjoy eye candy too!!!
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Oct 19, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I mean as a guest writer.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean as a guest writer
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Got You!!!
Yea I knew what u meant…LOL=)
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Oct 20, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
uh huh....
Anyhow…do you want to write for one? Hit me up or Slash on email and tell us which game you want.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
so u have no sense of humor
and you aren’t HOT….dayum:(
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Oct 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Either you're 100% right or 100% wrong
:) giggity
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Which picture has the cheerleaders in it?
We need a closeup of these suspected cheerleaders……
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kolb
How has the fanbase reacted to the team’s start after landing what was supposed to be the franchise QB? Are you guys blaming the OL or has Kolb started catching fan flack?
Kolb definitely has caught some flack
Especially for his happy feet. We understand skittishness behind that OL but he seems to roll out every other play. The problem is his rollouts never produce anything. He also has a tendency to fumble on sacks, its been like 6 fumbles in 5 games.
I’m not making judgements of ability right now after 5 games, since allegedly the Whiz playbook throws a lot on top of the QBs shoulders.
He has shown toughness and the right attitude.
Our main concern is that Kolb started OK and he seems to be regressing. I personally am willing to give him the whole season to prove himself, that said, I really expect to see some improvement week to week.
PS. More than the OL its the tackles who recieve the blame, the interior OL we find has been doing a better job. Our tackles are awful
I echo most of
what ELrupps wrote. People are really down on him now. But I personally think he will come out of it.
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Would you say that
Ray Horton’s D looks a lot like a Dick LeBeau clone, or has he put his own stamp on it? (Although in fairness I suppose it’s a little soon to judge for certain…)
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 19, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions
Much too soon to tell
Hortons D is supposed to be a handful and its showing. The players seem to be overthinking assignments, which leads to poor play, especially the secondary. Also the pass rush isn’t there yet, the blitzes aren´t getting there.
A lot of fans believe its a personnel problem, we seem to have people better suited for a 4-3 rather than a 3-4 i.e. great DEs (dockett and campbell) but no quality OLBs
definitely too early
It is a LeBeau defense. It just isn’t as effective because the pressure hasn’t been there.
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I was creeping around over at ROTB, and it seems that you guys are a nice, friendly bunch, unlike the whiny bitches over at BCC, which is nice.
Anyways, my question to you is:
How high is Patrick Peterson’s ceiling? Do you think he will turn out like a Nnamdi or Revis, better than them, or not quite as good?
BCC?
The Jags fans had one bad apple, everyone else was awesome.
Now as far as Texans fans…..
I was reading their Ask Baltimore Beatdown post and all they were doing was talking shit. Hell, half of their comments went something like this:
“yeah pittsburgh sucks we almost beat them omg their defense is overrated!!”
funny is how Malor says the Ravens are "arguably the best team in the AFC"
i had to laugh to that one
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
They aren't?
Their offensive line gives up way too much pressure, but they’re still 5-1. Lots of good things going on over there, I hate to say…
by Neal Coolong on Oct 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I can’t really see any afc team that is definitively better as of right now.
But it is still the Ravens They’ve had the “best team” for years now according to their players.
and according to their fans.
They were going through the same motions last year.
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
I try to answer
PP7 is fast, big and great in the return game. Right now though his ceiling has been lowered by Horton’s scheme. The biggest knock on PP7 coming out was his football intelligence and it seems he has hit the wall on knowledge part. He has shown some great coverage skill at times and some mind boggling mental errors at other times. It is too early to tell if he can be a Revis or Nnamdi but I think he will be very good. If not there is always the possibility he can play FS.
+1
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Zone blitz scheme will do that to a CB
Look how long it takes for the Steelers to develop quality CBs.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 19, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I like PP21
I think I am one of the few who actually sees the good things hes been doing on the field. For as much blown coverages as he’s surrendered, he has had plays where he has just been completely draped on his man. He excells in man coverage to a point where yes he could be a Revis or Nnamdi but i doubt he will ever develop and reach his full potential if he stays in this system. His speed, size, and strength are unreal…. once he learns this defense its gon be hard to stop him. I just wish we didnt play steeler defense, its obviously effective, but we have personnel to run a jets defense which is equally as good, and corners that we should be playing man to man. My only frustration with the cardinals is coach whiz infatuation to be like the steelers.
why are people hard on him?
he’s a friggin rookie. if he’s still doing that in year 3, then i’d be worried.
Thats what im sayin
He is usually playing against the other teams #1 WR so of course he gonna get beat once in a while, add the fact that he is a rookie, learning the zone for the first time, and has no help from veteran DBs cuz i think they still dont fully understand this new defense and he is pretty much garunteed to have a loooooooong rookie year. But u can see the talent and dedication to the game oozing from his ears.
I don’t think learning the techniques is the much of an issue, he played in a lot of cover 2 and cover 3 defenses at LSU, he knows the landmarks, he knows the depth of his drops, I think once his confidence grows he will get better. I think he might be better inside where he is allowed to read the QB, but we shall see.
I think it could have something to do with him currenlty allowing more yards per pass attmept in coverae than the famed “hole in zone” defender
LOL
Hole in Zone is a great defender….. something just doesnt add up…..
Arizona sports owners are jokes tho
None have any knowledge about the sport, the league, and the team they have their money invested in. Its a hard life being from AZ and watching sports, but someones gotta do it and ill gladly sacrifice my sanity for my football, basketball, baseball team!
Hey, at least the
Diamondbacks won one..I think..
So far he has been much better in man coverage than zone
I really wish we would run more man and just let him lock people up that way
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Things is Peterson is not capable of doing that yet, he is getting beaten in man coverage a lot because he is not getting the little things right, he has been playing outside shoulder technique on routes that are likely to break inside, giving the receiver a free extra half step. He has been beaten for TD’s on 9 routes becasue despite him starting off in solid coverage he looks back for the football too early and the receiver gains a step that way.
He played a lot of zone coverage at LSU, and it allows him to read the QB and play the way he likes to aggressive and attacking the football, he can still play press coverage in a zone concept too.
The INT he had vs SD, zone coverage that allowed Peterson to read the QB and jump a route.
Thanks for stopping by Jess
I’m sure one of us will set one of these up on your site today. My questions:
How do you feel the Cardinals did in the off season? I was not a fan of the Kolb trade. I thought it was too small of a sample size to know what his value is. How did you feel about your draft then vs. now? Did you get any late steals?
Who is the one underdog on your 53 that NFL fans outside of your fanbase wouldn’t know, but Cardinals fans love?
How has that former ratbird TE been doing?
Dan Williams was talked about as a possible draft pick for us back in 2010. How is he coming along?
How do you think your defense will fare against Mike Wallace? Which Steelers WR will have the most favorable match up?
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Lots of questions... gonna be a long post
Kolb:
Liked the player but hated the terms. I was one who thought DRC wasn’t such a big loss as its made out to be. He didn’t fit Hortons system though I think I’m in the minority there. The guy couldn’t tackle to save his life though he was extremely talented.
We’ve been worried because he seems to be regressing after an OK start. We still don’t like the $63M contract, it sets up expectations for better production than what we’ve had.
Offseason and Draft:
Big offseason players in FA market which was a surprise.
We liked the draft, though the ryan williams pick was a headscratcher.
Peterson(1st) has had troubles but he’ll get better, not worried about him.
RB Williams (2nd) We love the guy now and were devastated when he was out for the season.
TE Housler(3rd) looks to be a good player, especially as a pass catcher.
LB Acho(4th) is a smart player with potential
FB Sherman (5th) is a baller.
LB Sturdivant (6th) we thought he was a steal but he dissapointed, not with the team anymore
NT Carter (6th) Didn’t know much about him, the steal of our draft. David Carter has been amazing, he is behind Dan Williams at NT but def deserves playing time.
WR Sampson (7th) Had a good preseason, on PS
TE upgrades have been amazing, first time in years we’ve had real production. Heap has been hurt but him and Jeff king have been playing great. King especially, a blocking TE has some of the longest touchdown of the season.
BTW we were excited about getting LB Bradley but he hasn’t been playing a lot.
Underdogs
DARYLL WASHINGTON.
He has been the best defensive player so far. Our starting ILB with amazing speed and range who plays really hard.
Dan Williams is a starter now and a good player, but the lockout didn’t help his conditioning. He can really hold up blockers though, now if we only could find someone to rush the passer.
Mike Wallace has me terrified with his 40 yard TD per game, our coverage hasn’t been great. IMO Horton should let the CBs play press man, Peterson on Wallace, PP has the speed to keep up and playing man he doesn’t have to think too much. Jefferson is slower but he’s played very well.
Our Achilles heel is the TE, we have slow safeties with so so coverage skills so a good TE will give us plenty trouble.
I wish the Steelers had a young NT that was a steal. Our NTs are getting pretty old. I recall seeing Acho projected to the Steelers in a lot of drafts around the 3rd, so he is definitely a steal for the 4th.
I’d love to see you guys play press on Wallace. I don’t think I’ve seen a team do that extensively yet and I’d like to see how he responds.
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by John Stephens on Oct 19, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Really Like David Carter
He is the older brother of Steelers rookie linebacker Chris Carter and he is a beast. Good, motor great attitude. Steal of the draft for the Cards.
That’s interesting
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by John Stephens on Oct 19, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Both the Carters
Are really good football players. David Carter is awesome, for a rookie he has far exceeded any expectations IMO. He isnt your prototypical NT as far as size, but he has skills! He can play DE and NT which makes him even more of a steal.
playing press man on Wallace might kill you if Peterson doesn’t have the recovery speed to make up for it if he misses on the press.
You might be better off playing off of him.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 19, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. But is he fast enough to run down Mike Wallace who might have a lead on him?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 19, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll answer both questions at once
He ran a 4.34 in the 40.
So he doesn’t has to be as fast as Wallace just fast enough to stick an arm out and disrupt the pass.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Oct 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just asking in because if he missed when playing press coverage at the LOS it might hurt him,
But this should be an interesting match up.
I wonder who will be lining up on Ward, Sanders, and Brown.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 19, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Stated this in a post on ROTB
Patrick Petersen excelled in man coverage at LSU. Man coverage is the easiest coverage to understand therefore allows PP to play the fastest he can because he is comfortable. The reason you play press is because Wallace has a tough time getting off the press and has a slender build. The press also disrupts BA “go deep” philosophy.Pertersen is fast enough to keep up with a disrupted Wallace. He won’t out run him to the ball but will be able to disrupt a pass. Jefferson is slower the PP but is lengthy therefore a press coverage also suites him. However both may still need a safety over the top to force a TO. Jefferson would definitely need one against Wallace.
wouldn't call Wallace big or slender.
199/200 pounds and 6 foot seems like a decent/average size, and compared to PP’s 219 lb 6 foot frame the press strategy could be a wash.
Hopefully BA doesn’t go deep crazy again, but either way I will enjoy watching this match up.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 19, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW: I've met Mike and he gave me a hug...
he is NOT slender at all….he’s built very solid….on the field he does look skinny…even at camp he looked smaller on the field then he really is….he is tall but I’m 5 foot 2 so almost everyone is taller than I am.
Now Casey Hampton on the other hand….
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Oct 19, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
if Hampton gave you a hug
you may not have ever had the chance to type that comment. We may have lost you
Unless Casey
dug around in his belly button in an idle moment – the duchess might well have reappeared, probably slightly the worse for wear.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 19, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Wallace clocked a 4.33 on the same track
So I would say it is a push cause the Pro Days are so flawed with different surfaces, conditions etc.
well thats not even my point
the difference between 4.3 and 4.4 is an arm length, thats all Patrick needs to bat down a ball. So he doesn’t need to be as fast as Wallace to be effective.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Oct 19, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
1 – Dan Williams has not been that good at all, has played less than 20 snaps per game this season, and only 21 more totla snaps than David Carter. Huge disappointment, in more than one way.
2 – Underdog has to be the Hyphen, special teams ACE.
3 – Jefferson and Peterson will continue to play left and right CB, so it will depend on where Wallace lines up as to who will cover him.
Want to trade us Williams for like a 3rd?
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by John Stephens on Oct 20, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Loved the offseason moves.
I’m a big Kolb fan.
The draft I felt was solid. David Carter (6th rd) is already a steal. WR DeMarco Sampson (7th) hasn’t had much playing time yet, but looked amazing in the preseason.
Heap has battled a hamstring injury recently.
Williams has been disappointing. He is inconsistent still at doing his job, but will make a few plays.
Underdog — see CB AJ Jefferson. Undrafted a yr ago, won a starting job in camp. Will impress. He will probably line up opposite Wallace, so it may be a little tough. The issue mostly has been once the WRs get past the CB zone into the safety area. Safety play has been big negative.
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So
With the bad Safety play, it could get ugly if Mendenhall gets to the second level? Or are they just bad in pass coverage?
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by John Stephens on Oct 19, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
When Nike changes the uniforms in 2012
and the Cardinals colors switch to black and gold, will you have two bird decals on your helmets, or just one on the right side?
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by alfresco on Oct 19, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
How did you find out about the new uniforms and colors?
Do you have a link?
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- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
LOL
I get the connection now.
Dumb!
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
Thanks for stopping by
1.) Have you guys been able to effectively spread teams out and pick them apart this season?
2.) How good is your defense at bringing pressure?
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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Oct 19, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
NO and NO
1) Doucet is playing well, the TE production is there and Fitz is Fitz, but to pick apart a defense the QB needs time in the pocket. With our Offensive tackles and a QB that is bailing too quickly from the pocket that´s not happening.
2)The starting OLBs are old, the emerging OLB need more time. The blitzes aren’t getting there in time. Our DEs have stepped up but this is a 3-4 so a DE being our best rusher is a red flag. We have brought some pressure but it dissapears when it’s needed most (read: oppossition 4th Qtr comebacks)
Do you guys send 5 or more most of the time?
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Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Oct 19, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They blitz about 50% of the time
As I said, the regular rush isn’t that effective so pressure needs to be manufactured with extra rushers. But Horton announced since his intro press conference this was gonna be a blitzing D. In his words, the first play in the first game he called was going to be a blitz.
Horton needs to up grade the D
So far our DL has been killing OLs on the pass rush specifically Brett Keisel and Ziggy Hood.
with DE Aaron Smith and NT Casey Hampton out it has been tough for the Steelers to play their base defense, so instead they have been playing alot of amoeba defense with only the NT having their hand on the ground and the two DEs and Woodely standing up and moving around with Polamalu coming down and acting like an ILB to create confusion.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 19, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds Similar
I have seen snaps with Calais Campbell and Dockett standing up moving on the line, and Adrian Wilson getting in the box. U guys will basically see a mirror image of your Defense on sunday….. minus the OLB getting to the QB. I have watched and rewatched a couple steelers game to try and figure out how the Defense looks when ran properly and they look very very similar. You will just see more mistakes on our side for obvious reasons.
What
is the fligt speed of an unladen swallow
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An African or European swallow?
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friggin funny
"We didn't worry about the calls," Harrison said. "When you're getting a lot of penalties against you, it brings you together."
by kick him in the head on Oct 20, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Very awesome, sir!
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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 20, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
isn't it "airspeed velocity"?
If there is some sort of inside joke i’m not aware of, i apologize.
No idea, just did the ole google search for “flight speed of a swallow” and that was the first thing that came up.
that reply was actually for WVPirates
he’s the guy that asks that at each “ask” session
The reason that is funny, is because it’s a line from a Monty Python movie.
And it’s often quoted, but you busted out a scientific analysis of the question.
that is awesome to me lol
also
now i know why someone answered “24 mph” last week, lol
Before I click the link (because I’m unfamiliar with the meaning behind the joke too) I have to ask…. would a girl find it as amusing as the guys? Just want to be prepared..lol
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"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
Has nothing to do with male/female, really not all that funny to be honest, just answers his question.
See… I appreciate that. I have always found Monty Python to be ridiculous and even as a teenager (yeah I was around when the Flying Circus was all the rage) I never liked it. I think I’m pretty much the Lone Ranger though…
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
I agree with him
I don’t get the joke honestly, i was never a monty python fan.
The link is actually a scientific explanation of the airspeed velocity of a real swallow (bird)
We see eye to eye here. Although I may buck at “high yo silver”, you can call me Tonto…
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
It's a serious study of the question
and not funny, other than taking the mick on WVPirate, but I found it fascinating. But then, I’m married to a nerd…
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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Will this picture convince you that the catch was a catch?
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 19, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, that didn't turn out well
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
not liking the fact that the ball isn’t in his hands in this pic…
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 19, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The one I had earlier was better
But it disappears two seconds after I post it.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 19, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
WHY
Would u trade Santonio?? And for a late rd pick at that
pot head who was going to miss 4 games
He hasn’t set the world on fire over there in NJ like Wallace has over here.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
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by Steel in FL on Oct 19, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't do much with Sanchez throwing to you
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Because we needed that used blocking sled we got in exchange for him
more than we needed a dope smoker who was going to be suspended for 4 games after being a repeat “offender” (I don’t give a rats ass if you want to smoke weed or not… but if your JOB requires drug testing and weed is one of the no-no’s…. then either find another line of work or be a conformist.)
Santonio broke my black and gold heart. He fit perfectly here… except that he chose weed over the Steelers. I’m bitter.
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i am not as hard on him as others are
To me, he was the one reason number 7 isn’t ours.
No doubt in my mind he would have made some magic in the Super Bowl last year.
He had soooooooooo many game winning td’s, game changing td’s..the guy was as clutch as Big Ben.
Of course, i ignore the media, and i don’t care what players do off the field.
I thought it was a stupid trade, and i still feel that way. If the worst thing you can say about him is “he smokes weed” guess what, i’m cool with that. I wish he would have been smarter about it, but hey , it is what it is.
He had other problems too. I think he tweeted once and told the person who was heckling him to go kill himself.
I think most of his stories were blown way out of proportion, but whatever.
He also had the naked shower pic, which isn’t good. Unfortunately i “saw it”
i must say i am extremely jealous.
Over all, yes, trouble found him a lot. But like i said, i only care about what goes on between the lines.
I don't mean to be hard on him, I just really feel betrayed as a fan.
He’s someone I think cared more about himself than he ever did about the organization, the City or the fans who really loved him and everything he did for the team.
And I happen to agree with you…. had he been a Steeler last year, the SB could easily have been 7th Heaven. The chemistry between he and Ben was spectacular even on a bad day.
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I just don't think of it the way you do
He wants to smoke. He has a stressful life, with a child that could die at any minute. He’s from an environment where drug use is normal.
I guess that’s no excuse, and it does suck that he kept smoking.
But i think the other issues were more important to the FO than the weed thing honestly. Remember he got accused of smashing a glass in someone’s face. Personally at the time, i questioned that. It was just too weird that a month after the Ben fiasco, a “crime” was hung on the “druggy”
It just seemed like an attempt to deflect criticism.
The Rooney’s are smart, they know how to work the system.
But, I’m never going to know the truth, and you aren’t either.
That’s why i ONLY judge a player on what happens between the lines.
He was magical in Pitt
He is the reason u won the superbowl. He got wide ass open in the end zone. Great reciever imo. He’s actually my #2 behind Fitzgerald. I could give a shit what he does off the field, he could be a gay crackhead but if he performs on Sundays Idc! U guys really just gave him away to make a point in my opinion. As far as him not making noise in New York; MARK SANCHEZ! That’s all I have to say about that
by cgcardzfan on Oct 20, 2011 12:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was to make a point
and to deflect criticism away from Ben
it’s like “see we don’t put up with the b.s”
it worked because they could hide behind the fact that Ben wasn’t arrested or brought to trial in any way.
Of course, as someone who only cares what happens on Sunday or Monday, I want them both out there. People that say “playing in the NFL is a privilege”, bullshit. that’s what people who weren’t good enough to make it think.
As far as Dirty Sanchez…yeah he’s awesome, lol
In terms of starting qb’s where would you rank him?
last year I said he was the 27th best starting qb in the league
this year i say he’s number 30? am i over estimating him?
keep in mind though, two starting qbs are named John Beck, and Matt Moore
i wouldn't put him at the second best
The two Johnsons, in my opinion, are equal to Fitz..it’s hard to say one is better than the other.
But if the game is on the line, and i need a huge play…Santonio is number 1.
If i’m in a situation like that, i’d honestly pick him over ANY receiver. You have no idea how many wins he was responsible for in his short time in Pitt.
that Super Bowl catch was just par for the course for him.
He always stepped up against the Ravens, which is obviously huge for us, and in the playoffs…woooo boy.
Just look at him last year, even on the Jets with dirty sanchez, he still had 3 or 4 gw td catches
and one of them was re-gotdamn-diculous….
yeah, I miss him big time
I don’t disagree~ however when what a player does off the field affects what he does/can do on the field (can’t do a whole lot for 4 games when you’re sitting at home suspended) then it’s a problem because it hurts the team. Then it moves to selfish/self-serving/ “imma do what I want. Screw you guys.”
I don’t put a lot of stock in most of what the media says; until someone is arrested/charged it’s little more than rumors. That whole drink in the face thing just was way overblown.
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I agree
Wallace is great when at full speed, but stop and start is not his forte, and there were a couple sideline quick slants in the SB where he got tackled, and Santonio would have slipped ’em for big yardage.
I think the main thing is that he was a locker room problem, but still…the team definitely should have gotten more for him.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 20, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm not sure it was locker room
I think he was just a thorn in the managements side
constantly having to answer for him and such
by all accounts, Ben loved him, and was devastated when he was traded.
Some even thought that the FO traded him just to send a message to Ben, I’m not sure I buy that, but it’s out there.
If he has one more drug abuse
failed test then he is gone for a whole year. Plus we wouldn’t have been able to sign him the following year anyway. He would have wanted too much money, he is over paid right now.
Plus there were ramblings about him challenging Tomlin and becoming a locker room problem. As we have seen with NY those rumors appear to be true.
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by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
didn't know about the
challenging Tomlin part…you don’t do that.
I’m happy with the receivers we have, I just missed his clutch-ness last year, that’s all
It was very much a rumour
and I didn’t see any media outlets report on it, but as you can see through what NY Jets are going through, Holmes ain’t afraid to go up to a coach and let him know what is on his mind. So its safe to say those rumors were true.
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by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I see that now
It sucks, i wish he could have just got his shit together and acted like a Steeler.
Yea
unfortunately everyone isn’t brought up that way. We’d have a lot of good players if guys would just act right, not make such a big deal about being paid a certain amount and loved being a Steeler. Alas we don’t live in a perfect world, I mean hey I would play the game for a 1.5 million dollars a year, wouldn’t need anything more.
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by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
until you won the Super Bowl MVP
then your head would expand.
Or maybe not, I think we were in agreement about the whole Tom Brady/Giselle thing that kk99 and I were discussing.
Yea
I think for the most part kk99 is right, a lot of people are jealous of Tom and their head would blow up if they was Holmes.
But a lot of people is not all people.
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by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Many in Steeler Nation
asked that question, but with much coarser language. I think that the Steelers FO has been vindicated, for a couple of reasons.
1) We got Bryant McFadden back with the pick, which seemed like a bigger deal at the time than it was, (although I think it would have been sheer genius if he hadn’t been hurt since the first game of last season,)
2) they took Antonio Brown in the next round, and finally,
3) this article. one of several that have popped up lately about rifts in the Jets locker room that seem to be caused at least in part by Holmes. Although a lot of the guys were friendly with him, I’ve read a few things that indicated that Holmes wasn’t a great colleague. He was certainly selfish, always demanding the ball. That’s not the Steeler way. His contract was up at the end of 2010, and I’m pretty sure the Steelers weren’t planning to keep him anyway, because of money, but even more because of this stuff.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 20, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
this
thanks for this poast. It kept me from having to make it.
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by stillergorillar on Oct 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
In reference to Number 3
I hate to say I told you so…..but ….no I don’t “I told you so”. :P
I said it the first day the news came out. I can’t take credit for that though. I was just reporting facts that I heard from inside sources. Holmes had to go.
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by PixburghArn on Oct 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
u did call it though
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by tannofsteel84 on Oct 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
The Steeler Way
I don’t really think a talented playmaker wanting the ball is all that selfish. Too much gets made out of that. The problem with Santonio is he’s a separator, and not a leader. They traded him to lessen the damage he was going to do internally on his way out. He made it known he wanted top 5 WR money, and the Steelers weren’t interested in giving him that. He knew it, and he was openly challenging Tomlin and the FO in front of everyone.
He was only going to play 12 games at most, and he was one puff away from not playing at all. And keep in mind, he was openly talking about getting high on Twitter. He obviously didn’t care, he wanted out, so we gave the baby his bottle.
Then we crammed that bottle up his (bleep) in the AFC Championship game – at least until Ike slipped and Tone broke his route deep. Stupid Heinz Field turf…either way, the Jets can now pay him $10 mil per to pout on the sideline. He’ll make plays, and he’ll be a pain in the (bleep), and we’ll never have to worry about him again.
by Neal Coolong on Oct 21, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen to everything,
especially the part about landing the Jets with him. I wonder how Rex likes him now?
My only quibble is the part about “selfish.” You want to get your best playmakers the ball, obviously. That’s not really what I was getting at, although yammering on and on about it to your QB could be considered to be counterproductive. I’m more thinking of Holmes’ avowed concern for his stats. Hines Ward pointed out to him that “in Pittsburgh, we don’t play for stats, we play for Lombardis.” It seemed to fall on deaf ears.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 21, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I'm just desensitized
To the complaints of modern wide receivers and their desire to boost their stats. It’s naive of us to think Mike Wallace isn’t headed that direction, and Antonio Brown’s picked up, what, two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and got stuck on a wall during a celebration this regular and preseason?
They’re all jackasses, I guess I just hope they catch 90 percent of what’s thrown at them, don’t get penalized for their showboating and stay out of jail.
by Neal Coolong on Oct 21, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You're probably right,
but I naively hope for better things…
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by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 21, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You really didnt have to start that, seeing as no one on this thread was bitching about anything. The poster even makes the point “I’m not bitter about the catch”
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by Michael Hewitt on Oct 20, 2011 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by John Stephens on Oct 20, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
he ticked him off and made him forget to put more cheerleader pics out
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+1
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by Michael Hewitt on Oct 21, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
My question for the ROTB guys
Do you sincerely believe that it wasn’t a catch? If so, how could you justify that? there is so much visual evidence out there.
I know there is a youtube video that “proves” it wasn’t a catch, but that is a picture of the back of his feet, without showing where the ball is at that time.
Basically it was snapped as he was falling down, after already establishing control, and having both feet down.
I don't hear anyone saying it wasn't a here in AZ
The most complaints I heard was Holmes should of had an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for excessive celebration, and that the last play of the game should have been reviewed. Yes there should have been a penalty and the last play was definitely a fumble.
I believed it wasn't
until I saw one particular view of both toes down. Previously, the best was showing one toe above the ground. I just live in denial.
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Lol
i can respect that .
It just wouldn’t be a Steeler game if there wasn’t controversy.
The Ravens fans were crying about a couple catches Santonio made that year (the one where he was in the endzone, and caught the ball right on the line, for one)
Obviously you know the Seattle story, last years game in Miami, immaculate reception, the Renfro catch, the coin toss game….the list goes on and on
yes, penalty for sure
last play was reviewed according to Al and John. they said the booth already buzzed down saying it was a fumble, which was the right call.
But at the top of this page, it says "(I’m not bitter at all about that “catch” by Santonio Holmes.)
That’s why i asked
My Question...
If in ’08, lets say 17 year old cashier wore a Polamalu jersey with his terrible towel and black shoes with yellow/gold laces, would you scream at his manager that he is a disgrace and should be fired immediately? Or loudly complain to other cashiers? Or not go into his lane even though all the others had about a 10 minute wait?
Cause all these happened to me on multiple occasions, no lie.
All of the above?
Not really. I probably would have gone to your aisle and given you dirty looks the entire time.
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wait
you were the 17 year cashier? and people were that rude to you?
@Jess Root’s response; Yeah I expect that from many people and got plenty of dirty looks, only had about 10 costumers all day (5 hour shift) only one was a “Cardinals fan” she was on the phone didn’t even notice the rest were Steelers fans.
@FrankWyt response; Yeah I had 3 people ask for a manger to another cashier and started yelling at them that I should be fired. All of them were over forty and the first wreaked of boos, the latter complained about my “dress code” and at first stated I should be sent home then when he didn’t get the answer he wanted got more anger. The others were just obnoxious comment to fellow cashier. It was an interesting day but made for a great topic on my senior English paper the year later.
Just smile at them and wave your towel proudly
If you got fired for that, you’d be a celebrity, and I’m sure an opportunistic Steelers-fan business owner around there would hire you in an instant.
You should post that paper. I’d love to read it.
by Neal Coolong on Oct 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I would be perfectly fine with it
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who in our front 5 will have a considerable match up against your OL?
OLB Jason Worilds, DE Brett Keisel, NT Chris Hoke, DE Ziggy Hood, OLB LaMarr Woodely.
Also who in your front 5 will have a considerable advantage against our patch work OL which looks like.
LT Max Starks, LG Chris Kemoeatu, C Maurkice Pouncey, RG Ramon Foster, RT Marcus Gilbert
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 19, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone lined up opposite the tackles
automatically will have a good game. Calais Campbell and Darnell Dockett match up favorably against almost anyone.
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Woodley yes, Worilds not to sure.
We simply haven’t seen that much from him, and this will likely be his first start if he starts at all. In preseason he looked good on his pass rush but over pursued some time and leaves less to be desired in run stuffing, but then again we are spoiled from watch Harrison dominate in just about everything.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Against the Vikings our tackles allowed a combined 19 pressures (Hurries hits sacks) on 42 pass attempts. our tackles alone are responsible for pressure on nearly 50% of pass dropbacks.
At this time I beleive Joey Porter(who has recorded 4 pressures in 5 games) would get consistent pressure against our tackles.
What has been the biggest surprise and biggest disappointment of the season so far?
The answer can be a specific player or just an overall facet of the game like run defense, pass protection, etc.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 19, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
Biggest surpise, probably the play of AJ Jefferson, I knew he had the athleitic ability, but he has really impressed me with his ability to keep the play in front of him and not allow big plays.
Biggest disappointment, probabaly a combination of our last two first round pick Dan Williams and Patrick Peterson. Peterson has been a whipping boy in coverage, though he has been lining up in a lot of 1 v 1 man coverage against NFL #1’s so it happens. Cardinals tend to play left and right CB’s so if Wallace moves around he will see coverage from a whole lot of different guys. Peterson usually plays on the right side of the defense, Jefferson the Left.
Dan Williams has been a huge disappointment, currently the Cardinals rank 29th against runs up the middle, that is a big black mark against a NT, and according to number from Mike Sando over at ESPN. He is playing less than 20 snaps/game, and only 21 more total snaps than David Carter. Expect to see a lot of 2-4-5 type sets with 3 CB’s on the field.
What can I add to that?
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khodder's response
was pretty dang complete.
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Speaking of PP
Is he showing improvement? Is it a physical talent thing, or is it the mental aspect of the game?
I thought he was gonna be great, and it’s six games into his rookie year, so he still well could be, but I thought he was more NFL ready than he seems to have been; is it just going against a lot of opponents #1 guys with a lousy pass rush?
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 20, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems to be more mental. is not making the plays on the ball that people have expected. By my numbers he has been thrown at 27 times, and he has only got his hands on one of those targets (For a Deflection) his INT came on a hail mary lob.
We need him to become more of a playmaker, and that means we need to play more zone coverage, but with the way our pass rush is right now any time we drop into a cover 3 or a quarters defense we get gashed because the receivers have time to find the soft spots and the QB time to make the accurate throw.
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Is that sarcasm?
Looks like sarcasm font
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by PixburghArn on Oct 20, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
It is
and I have no idea how I did it. And it cut off part of the comment.
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LOL
That’s what you get! just kidding….This poast is pretty calm compared to some of our “Ask the…” poasts. I guess the joksters are not getting on much this week.
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Better name: Card Schatter
A very good play on words, especially given the common song bird’s propensity to shat when alarmed, challenged or put under stress.
Usually spelled Shatter – one who has shat. Shat, from the 18th Century English meaning the past tense of the word – shit. Akin to use of sit and sat.
Just F’n with ya. The banter has been informative and remarkably adult. I digress…
"Franz" in NoCal
I've heard 'shat' before
but never was it funnier than the season finale of Louie (Louie CK) and his routine on eating
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Comment below is weird
But @cardschatter, @kentsomers, @mikejurecki and of course the shameless plug @ROTB_AZ
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lol
Is your twitter news, or do you just link articles like ours does?
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by John Stephens on Oct 20, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I use it for more than just the links
I’ll retweet other Cards news, ask questions, live tweet games, etc., give my thoughts
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Anybody know?
What color jerseys are the teams wearing?
I need to now, cuz…
I’M GOING TO THE GAME!!! Woot!
Last time we wore white
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
May not get a better chance to wear your Porter jersey
no matter what color it is…wait…as long as it is Steelers jersey that is!
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
Even if it was a Cardinals jersey he would be liable to having things lobbed at him. Joey Porter is not a good football player right now.
We knew that two years ago lol
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Oct 20, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at the forecast
If it’s super hot they may open the roof and put us in black. If not then we’ll be in white.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
95 degrees
And that’s why I was asking ;-)
I dunno if I wanna be sitting there in black either, but if the guys have to, I guess I’ll just have to cool myself with yet more beers!
Here we go Steelers!
That's where reversable jerseys
come in handy
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by PixburghArn on Oct 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
My kids' team uses them for practices
I guess it is handy if you need to swap kids from offence to defence or vis versa.
btw… 6-0 for the season 260 for, 24 against. First playoff match next week. Their team is still undefeated since conception. They were bumped up a level after last year so I expect they will go up another level after this year.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 21, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It was 116 degrees on the field when the Steelers played in Nashville last year. I said the same thing you just did “if my Steelers are wearing black then so am I.” I was dying…lol The only thing the Steelers could have done was offer IV fluids to the fans just like the line that formed for the players getting hooked up from cramping.
A little breeze would have been a nice touch…
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
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There going to have the roof closed anyway...
Bidwells care more about fan comfort then team advantage
There is Jeff King who has been suprisingly effective as a pass catcher
He was brought in as a blocking tight end and the D seems to forget to cover him. The real pass catching reserve is 3rd rnd pick Housler. Has nice speed and hands but Kolb has missed him a couple of times while wide open so we hope that gets fixed this game
King came out of a bad system in Carolina where he was kept to block
Decent TE
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
He had 46 catches one yr
That I think is better than any other TE on the Cards in 20+ yrs.
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I remember him in VTech being a great special teams player
does he still have a role in special teams
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Late question
Someone has asked for advice on going in-person:
“Any advice about the stadium in Glendale tomorrow? Parking for single game ticket holders? Going to tailgating?”
Can anybody help out?
Are you on Facebook? Have you connected with BTSC's page yet? You should.
For parking here is this http://prod.static.cardinals.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/2009_cards_park_full_map.pdf
seating chart
http://www.universityofphoenixstadium.com/upFiles/AZC_2011%20Single%20Game%20Map.pdf
never actually been to UofP so not sure about tailgating.
See
If you would have posted more cheerleader pics you might have won.
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