Too Little Too Late For Steelers, Fall to 2-2 with 17-10 Loss to Houston Texans
by Michael Bean on Oct 2, 2011 4:17 PM EDT
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The Pittsburgh Steelers fought resiliently, but ultimately were overmatched in their Week 4 matchup with the Houston Texans. We'll get to more comprehensive commentary and analysis about the 17-10 loss in Houston, but here are the major story-lines.
- Think the pass protection was bad last week during the win over the Colts? It was much worse on Sunday. Ben Roethlisberger was sacked five times, pressured and hit on numerous other occasions, and generally had next to no time to go through his progressions in the pocket. Give Wade Phillips and the Texans defense some of the credit though for their game plan.
- I'm not sure there is any one culprit on the line either. All five guys struggled mightily including second-year All Pro center Maurkice Pouncey.
- James Harrison was forced to leave the game in the second quarter with what looked to be a concussion. Hopefully it was of the mild variety and he'll be ready to play sooner rather than later.
- Andre Johnson or not, the Steelers pass defense actually fared fairly well considering Matt Schaub had time to throw for much of the afternoon. The Texans quarterback only finished with 138 yards on 14-of-21 passing attempts.
- The rush defense? Not so much. And I know I'm not alone in feeling concerned about the front seven's inability to stuff the run like we're so accustomed to seeing. Arian Foster had a big day, finishing with 155 yards on 30 attempts. The Steelers did tighten the screws during the third quarter, but after tying the game at 10-10, Foster ripped off a 42-yard TD run that proved the be the game winner.
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I heard that as well.
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Had we won I probably would have started working out some time in March. I started yesterday.
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I think the Steelers called it an eye, but it was a concussion
So he could come back in.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Oct 2, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Observations
This is also what I thought happened.
Apparently, bleach has an act like an asshole effect.
Being Insane I would know, I am a Texans Fan.
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"
Wade Aid pass it around, 3rd helping on the way.
bull crap
The training staff would NEVER let Harrison back in the game if it was a concussion.
They would lose their jobs and most likely get the Steelers into some deep shit with the NFL.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
BB is not going to survive this season behind the o line.
The talent is just not there. A little better protection and that game is at least tied.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Oct 2, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
LaMarr Woodley and James Farrior. Could either of these two be having a worse start to the season?
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Woodley usually starts slow (which is still inexcusable) and could be a result of poor DE play by Smith, in fact as a whole the DL was continually washed out by the Texan’s OL letting blockers get to the LBs.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I also still think be need another athletic presence beside Timmons, Farrior isn’t getting it done in coverage and doesn’t have that speed anymore to track down the ball carrier.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's time for some of the younger guys on the D
To get their chance to step up. Maybe start rotating Hampton and Smith at certain points.
Also, I know I’m alone in this, but Ben needs to get a season ending injury. This way the FO can really see, and have no excuses, for their continued negligence of our O-line. It’s not going to “gel” with shitty players. It’s been our number 1 problem for 4 years, and it seems like NOTHING has been done to rectify this. It’s time to spend first round draft picks and spend money on FA’s. The only person on this line that should be playing in the NFL in 2 years is Pouncey.
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I think our Pass D has been improved significantly however, and if our D-line could get back to CLOSE to old form, we still have a chance to get to the playoffs. If they can’t run, I have a feeling we start getting more TO’s from Polamalu and Co.
This is the turning point for the team. Do we go the Patriots route, and learn to supplement our veterans with a fresh crop of rookies, or do we get old and die?
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I’d actually like to see Hampton in more. Hoke isn’t exactly going to cut it at NT, and I don’t remember seeing much of McLendon if he was even active.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
All in all, we did not deserve to win that game anyway.
4 game win streak coming up.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Oct 2, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions
Woodley is sucking for no reason
Farrior is sucking because he sucks.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Oct 2, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He's sucking because he is slow/old
Let’s not act like he wasn’t awesome last year
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Farrior that is
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
then why not play Sly. Constantly seeing Foote in is irritating, what are they gaining by putting in a ILB that has the same skill set as Farrior?
Woodley needs to learn how to use he damn hands to disengage the linemen instead of trying to run him over every time, that rarely works. Tomlin/Lebeau/Butler needs to get on him for that.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep telling you guys Woodley doesn't start up until the 2nd half of the season
I believe he’s getting paid way too much to only show up half of the season but that’s just the way he plays football.
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
REALLY??? Titans zone block and run well
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by PaVaSteeler on Oct 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Should we just forfeit now then?
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but head in the sand results in same thing
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by PaVaSteeler on Oct 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I see what you are saying. But the Titans don’t have as good a pass rush as the last two teams we faced
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
on the bright side CJ is sucking this season.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't want to start panicking
And far from to to Monday morning QB the FO but, some tough decisions were not made this offseason and probably should have. Like, cutting Aaron and applying that money to a left tackle. Or cutting Farrior and applying at money to a LT or RG. Etc. We used to make see tough decisions, we didn’t this offseason.
Who?
Just name the guy in free agency who is definitely better than what we have. Dierdorf was making this point all game, you can’t play musical chairs with the offensive line. Last year was an anomaly, you can’t shuffle through your players and expect great results.
They may not be the most talented individuals, but they don’t even have the chance to blend together because they’re always hurt and they didn’t have an offseason.
Clabo, , bushrod, j brown, free,
Can’t remember all but we could have freed up some cap money and done better than Scott. Or do what the pats did for waters, get Dahl, light, Colledge, some interior linemen to strengthen that RG spot. Who knows and yeah, FO knows better. I just know that going into the yr with Scott at LT Wasn’t the answer. But boy, when they resigned Essex I felt better!
I just know that going into the yr with Scott at LT Wasn’t the answer. But boy, when they resigned Essex I felt better!
now that’s funny
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LT in the first round.
ILB/NT in the 2nd.
the rest of the rounds all OL lol
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Well..
If you look at what the Ravens did with their OL this offseason you could say they played some musical chairs bringing in McKinnie who’s done great, they have Gurode and LeVoir as quality back ups filling in for Grubbs right now. The talent was there in free agency and while yes Yanda, Oher, Birk, and Grubbs were already there, their line which looked like one of there main weaknesses has been a strength that was solved through free agency
by Dr. Disrespect on Oct 2, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Something else shitty
Wallace’s streak snapped
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He can thank his line for that
Several times in the second half, they had no safety help with a corner in press coverage on him, but Ben had approximately one quarter of a second to release the ball.
Good on their defense, they played dangerously and it paid off in a big way
Like Cleveland in 2009
When they stacked the box, giving no time to pass
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by PaVaSteeler on Oct 2, 2011 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Another streak
I’ll bet no one (except J.J. Watt, that’s $25 grand for extreme stupidity) gets fined after this game.
Watt
Obviously the hit by JJ was at the knees, but he was clearly pushed/falling down. It wasn’t a dirty play, and I don’t think he was trying to go after Roethlisberger’s knees.
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by SlatonShuffle on Oct 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, no
Sorry, Homer, he was not blocked into him. It wasn’t as dirty as it was stupid, he just sort of flung himself half-assed into him. I think he was trying to hold himself back after he started, so he fell into his legs.
watch the replay
He was pushed.
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by TexansForever on Oct 2, 2011 4:55 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I agree with Neal
He jumped trying to hit swat the pass and went straight into Ben’s knees. Pretty shitty thing to do.
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Which part was shitty?
The part where he jumped and tried to swat the pass? Strange thing is, if he was jumping to swat a pass, you’d think that he would hit Ben up high. That is, unless he happened to be pushed from behind by a Steelers lineman. Weird.
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by SlatonShuffle on Oct 2, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
To clarify
I would be okay with a small fine because again, I agree that the hit was technically illegal. I just bristle at the idea that you’re calling Watt either stupid or dirty, for a play which I think was neither. I’m arguing more intent/fault.
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by SlatonShuffle on Oct 2, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is that it technically wasn't illegal
If you are blocked into the quarterback, the rule is that it’s not a penalty. That was a downright bad call and he shouldn’t get a fine.
by Patrick Harrel on Oct 2, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what I saw.
He wasn’t even late, tripped up which is why he ended up in Ben’s legs. his hands were out. If he gets a fine, I am sure plenty of Texan fans will send donations due to the stupidity of the flag in the first place.
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So you are saying he jumped to hit Ben high, but because he was pushed he ended up low? Wat?
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually no
Here’s what you said: He jumped trying to hit swat the pass and went straight into Ben’s knees
If he was trying to jump and swat the pass, how the hell did he end up on the ground by Ben’s knees? I’m saying if he indeed was jumping to swat the pass, then he must have blocked to end up low. If you mistyped and you meant to say something else that’s fine, but I was interpreting what you said.
Plus, I think regardless of whether he was jumping or not, he was blocked into Ben. I really don’t care one way or the other. My guess is that Watt won’t be fined, but that’s a separate argument.
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by SlatonShuffle on Oct 2, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see how you believe that isn’t possible.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/pittsburgh-steelers
Fly to 3:10. You can see that he makes some shitty half ass attempt to swat at the ball in Ben’s hand. He lunges at Ben in the process, probably not smart enough to realize he is propelling himself at Ben. Since he is so far away from Ben when he lunges he falls short and nails Ben. Totally his fault and he is NOT pushed.
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
should be “falls short and nails Ben in the knee”
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Tell ya what, buddy!
After Watt gets fined, you can come back here and complain about it. Take it from us, our guys get fined every week, he’s getting a fine for that.
If he was trying to jump and swat the pass, how the hell did he end up on the ground by Ben’s knees?
I don’t friggen know, that’s why I said it was stupid on his part. Not calling him dirty, it was just a dumb play. It looked like he was trying to jump at first, then just kind of went down. Pouncey was at his side (our linemen don’t block face-to-face anymore), he wasn’t behind him.
I dont think it was intentional.
He lunged and happened to fall at his knees.
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by SteelerMessican on Oct 2, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that's not true. Our o line doesn't knock anyone down.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Oct 2, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's not true
I have seen them knock down both Big Ben and Mendenhall
Mendenhall had back back today.
Saw him completely shove Kemo to the ground
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't recommend this
even if it seems to be mostly true
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 3, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
its ok he has 12 more games to pick up another 100yrd game streak
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This loss was solely on the OL
When you hold the Texans to 17 Points, you should win the game. Had the OL blocked at all Ben would have been able to find all his WRs. Im fucking sick of this OL
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by PaVaSteeler on Oct 2, 2011 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What game did you see?
The defense was no where to be found. The Texans OL OWNED the Steelers front 7. Where were our big contract defense powers??? Yes our OL STINKS, and BB is in true peril, but WHERE is the DLine?
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by PaVaSteeler on Oct 2, 2011 4:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They gave up 17 points to a top five offense
Explain to me how that is bad
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by seton hall and steelers on Oct 2, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
bend and don't break
but I will say they were bad in the first and outstanding in the second. Mostly because Troy took over.
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was more of Johnson going out
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Run blocking
I thought they did an admirable job in the second half on a few of those drives. They were brought in to run block. Unfortunately, they were miserable in pass pro and it cost them. At least give them some credit, they ran pretty effectively in the second half.
The front seven played horrendously overall on defense, which is why they had to throw at the end.
Yeah
I always feel great when I see a RB go off for 150 yards against us. It happens all the time, and it’s only a premonition of good things to come…(ahem)
Uhhh what?
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
There were a lot of things that I liked.
I liked how they finally ran the ball some. I liked Ben some of those back shoulder passes. I liked how the defense stiffened overall, despite some big plays.
I actually came into this game thinking the Steelers might get crushed, and particularly felt that way after the first drive.
It’s early in the season. Still plenty of time to fix what ails them.
I hope so WT
Everytime a team runs on the Steeler D like they did today, its like I take a punch in the stomach. We have so much talent on our team this year, it just seems like our weak O-line is killing us and not letting us be all we could be. Ya know?
Little down right now!
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by steeler fever on Oct 2, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The o-line is playing LOUSY
but so is the defensive line, and consequently, so too are the backers, other than Harrison, who is clearly still not himself.
Plenty of blame to go around, particularly after a performance like today’s…
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 2, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
right now the only optimism I have is that our Dbacks are playing well, who would have thought that our pass defense would be better than our run defense? Who would have thought our weakness on pass defense would be linebackers covering tightends? I just don’t understand how we went from one of the best ever run defenses last year to an average at best run defense?
aarrrggghhhhh!
by steeler fever on Oct 2, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don’t understand how we went from one of the best ever run defenses last year to an average at best run defense?
It happens but its still early the season maybe your run defense will step up eventually
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by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw a lot I didn’t like. OL unable to block edge rushers yet again. DL and Woodley being pushed off the ball and leaving huge gaps. Farrior showing his age and unable to get to the edge. A Steelers pass rush that still doesn’t exist.
It is early in the season, but I’ve never seen a Steelers DL that was so badly dominated. Sure the Texans probably have one of the best OL in the league, but that used to not matter with the Steelers because they dominate no matter who they played. That just isn’t the case anymore. And we’ve always had the mantra of the defense that was so dominating that they could beat anyone. Who is afraid of this defense anymore? This defense isn’t going to win games and I’m not sure our offense is good enough to win games for us.
I’m not saying the season is over, but I don’t feel at all optimistic about this team like I have in the past.
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel more optimistic after this game then I did coming in. I didn’t say I am more optimistic than previous years
Right, so how does this defense function without a pass rush?
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with worldtrip
The gameplan in the second half was pretty solid from Arians. Hopefully when we get healthier on the OL, this will fix some issues, i.e. Essex. Although Kemo was pretty bad as well.
There seems to be the beginning of an identity on offense as well. Hitting the inside with Redman and Moore seemed to work well. Basically, we had to settle for two FGs and had one drive stall all because of penalties: taunting; false start; and late hit. Once backed up, the Texans teed off.
Also, in (short) retrospect), the defense was not so bad. The first drive was very poor. Other than that, the second TD came off of a short catch for a 3rd-down conversion to Daniels, a long play where Daniels beat Farrior, and then a counter where Woodley overpursued. Knife’s edge, but unlike last week, not an unfixable problem. However, Farrior is a liability in coverage and we need to fix that.
But yeah, in some strange way, this has been an improvement on some problem areas from last week.
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Gave up way too many big plays
Individually, the Steelers were man-handled defensively. Foster had 150 yards, and most of those came from just straight-up butt-kicking blocks.
The problem I see
is that the defense, for whatever reason, needs to feel their way schematically into the game. After about the midway point of the second quarter, once Aaron Smith seemed to find himself again, we pretty much shut them down. Take out the 42-yard rush by Foster, and their offense had no dynamism.
Now why it takes us so long to adjust would be a good question.
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+1
Yeah, I agree, they definitely improved. Looked pretty tough for stretches of the second half. But it was 10-all, the offense was gashing through their defense, and they had a chance to really take control of the game.
Two plays, Farrior’s piss-poor coverage angle on Daniels (props to him, ran a great route), and Polamalu and Woodley running into each other, and just like that, the momentum is gone and the crowd is loud again.
It was individual plays not so much the overall effort. Teams can’t allow big plays, that’s what will ultimately decide games.
woodley
I think woodley and Polumalu both got greedy and ended up out of position. However if woodley doesn’t take that weak flailing dive then Troy still has a chance at the play. No such luck
by SteelerBuddha on Oct 2, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
ohh I’d feel awesome too. If something were done with the OL. That’s literally the only thing holding us back
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
umm?
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s becoming clear it’s not going to happen this year. I just hope when the time comes Tomlin plays the kids (cortez allen, curtis brown, chris carter) and doesn’t play for a 9-7 record.
Farrior shouldn’t play another down. Stop the shenanigans and draft lots of offensive lineman and a nose tackle. And for god sakes don’t draft D ends that take 4 years to develop.
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t draft D ends that take 4 years to develop
But Heyward is already getting a good deal of time?
I bet he would be a starter next season if it wasn’t for Keisel.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 2, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
So
Does Mendenhall lose his starting spot in your offense? I think it should certainly be in question.
Mendy 9 carries, 25 yards, 2.8 ypc
Redman 6 carries, 40 yards, 6.7 ypc
Moore 4 carries, 34 yards, 8.5 ypc
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Also Mendy looked no bueno in blitz pick up
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
1st half vs. 2nd half
Mendenhall was hurt and didn’t get the benefit of running behind the line when they were actually playing well. Redman and Moore both had some pretty huge holes to go through. It wasn’t them, it was the line.
How much of it is the OL and how much of it is Mendy not squaring up and hitting the whole? I was on Mendy’s side up until today. He is dancing too damn much.
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
hole*
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear ya
But I really don’t think he had anywhere to go today. I’m more certain Redman and Moore had some serious running lanes. The line had a lot more fire in the second half (run game).
I agree
There was no running room in the first half. And Mendy was actually hitting it in the hole today (I watched him specifically to see if he danced and missed a hole), but had no where to run. What yards he made, he made on his own. There were definitely much bigger holes in the second half, and they were actually running different plays where the guard pulled to the right, which they didn’t do in the first half. Mendy’s a good back, and if he had a line, he’d be a 1500 yard rusher every year.
by motownsteeler on Oct 2, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Redman did have holes to run through, yes, but
He also had a lot of yards after first contact. I am still seeing mendy has a little gun-shy. He seems hesitant to hit the hole. Redman should get a shot at having more carries, not necessarily start next game, but bring him in more often
Agree
Redman ran harder then Mendy today. Plain and simple. He ran straight ahead and earned some tough yards after contact
by SteelerBuddha on Oct 2, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Lead Blocker
One of the changes in the second half was that they started using a lead blocker….you know …one of those things that used to be called a Full Back. Too bad we don’t have a real one, and have to resort to using a tight end
Honestly
One’s gotta wonder. Redman and MeMo both played strongly, honestly, they, Keenan Lewis and Brown were the only guys who really showed up. Mendenhall looked awful.
Lewis was balling
Wallace showed up too, but Ben didn’t have enough time to hit him all day
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If I see one more effing penalty
or a dropped pass on third and long, I’m gonna flip out on every damn receiver on this team. I’m getting sick of it. Catch the ball, get off the ground, get your ass back to the huddle. Brown shut his mouth today and played some great football. Wallace is up screaming at the sideline after a 20 yard gain when his team’s down 7-rip. Ward dropped a perfectly thrown pass from a guy who was taking fire for the entire damn team…still pisses me off. Both of them.
That taunting foul was bullshit. That shit happens every god damn play. And how is it any worse than stepping over the guy you just tackled.
Did Cotch even hit the field? Maybe he should be getting some of Ward’s snaps.
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
They do it for a second or two
He carried on for way too long. Way too proud of himself.
You play the game with emotion, I get that, but you made your point, get back to the huddle and get ready to do it again.
I saw Cotchery once. So we’ve got that goin’ for us…
I guess the preseason was just a fantasy?
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He needs to trade his current hamstrings for his preseason ones.
They worked better. Honestly, I kinda thought at first they were just giving him some time to learn the offense, and didn’t want to make him look bad by healthy-scratching him. Maybe he really has been hurt for the last six weeks.
Ehhh
Ward got absolutely hammered square in the back on that play. Ben should have thrown that ball lower. I know Ward has made those catches in the past but there are just some throws that physics prevent you from hanging onto, no matter how strong you are.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Oct 2, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ward had dropped the ball before he got hit. Not saying he would have caught it, but he never gave himself the chance.
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Troy played well
after the TD he basically caused a 3 and out by himself.
by SteelerBuddha on Oct 2, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
My first Steelers game next week -- what should I do?
Besides praying that Ben’s ankle is ok to play and we don’t get killed at home?
It’s my first trip to the Burgh since I was a little kid. I’m getting in mid-day Saturday. What should I do? What should I see?
Go get a jersey
Some cleats and maybe some gloves. Start working on your blocking technique.
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Sandwiches which challenge Primanti’s for best in the ‘Burgh. Tons of micro-brews on tap if you’re into that. Personally, I only drink Yuengling when I’m back there cuz you can’t get it on the west coast!
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by RoethlisCrosby on Oct 3, 2011 5:44 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Amazingly, we're giving up less than 160 pass YPG
And its not even like that’s a fluke. Too bad our run defense has magically disappeared.
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Is it because teams no they can run on us so well?
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Other teams with bad run defenses get shredded through the air as well
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Bracing myself
For the 50 fanposts about Offensive Line sucking, season being over, FIRE ARIANZ! posts that will inevitably arrive
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Well, the ones about the O-line sucking won't exactly be off base
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep should be an awful week for fanposts
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by seton hall and steelers on Oct 2, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I'll be avoiding the Steel City Insider forums this week
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
how many of them will be more than 1 paragraph?
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The over-under is 1.5
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
under please
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
A new game
Over/Under on the appearance of the word “Arians” in a sentence of extreme negativity, borderline violence:
40.
Jesus
Probably over, but that seems unrealistic
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm waiting to rec the first "Fire Tomlin" post
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
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Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a sick sense of humor
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Fire Tomlin
Couldn’t resist
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by Pittsblitz56 on Oct 2, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Popping the cherry
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Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
all jokes aside
Hell I fired myself after the 11+ min opening drive
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I think I might make a post titled "Fire Johnny and Bean" just for the hell of it
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by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Title it
Mike Tomlin en Fuego,Johnny and Bean no es en Fuego
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You see...
I’m factoring in the likelihood of everyone completely freaking out, and blaming the coordinator, who’s apparently telling the offensive line it’s ok to not block Mario Williams. But…I’m also factoring in the amount of bandwagon fans who will drop the site’s average hits this week to half of what is was in Week 1.
although it hurts the website
i won’t mind the drop off in “sky is falling” posts
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine is more then a paragraph
Why write something that’s is 1 paragraph long when I could just respond on another post in the same length.
If only we could get that point through to everyone.
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by John Stephens on Oct 3, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I only had one play call from BA I really didn't like
which, considering how many offensive plays there were, wasn’t bad.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 3, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
second and 2 pass?
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by stillergorillar on Oct 3, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
On the plus side
The Yankees are down 4-0 in the sixth!
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't follow baseball much
But I just hate the Yankees and Red Sox.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Hes not cut, we just didnt activate him for this game
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by Michael Hewitt on Oct 2, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He disappeared in the second half
Very disappointing.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Coulda sworn Harrison was back out there at the end
could be wrong.
Anyway…
Just some quick notes: I said this in the 1st half thread
If Ben can’t win with an offensive line, you know it’s bad. No one can win with this line. The left side is in shambles, the right side is a little better, but still nowhere it needs to be. The "standard is the standard," bullcrap has to stop. It’s like saying Wall Street will do better because I said so. I don’t care what this standard is but you’ve got guys who clearly cannot live up to it.
Although slightly knee jerk, I stand by what I said on “the standard.” If that logic were true any team in the league would be able to be a contender because everyone wants their standard to be winning. If you have bad players, they are going to perform badly no matter how you tell them to perform. In my lifetime this is the worst offensive line the Steelers have ever fielded. Of course they have gone against some of the best pass rushers in the league so far-Suggs, Freeney, Mathis, and Mario-but that doesn’t change the fact that they are just pitiful at times. Pouncey of course being the exception, but even he’s gotten off to a slow start and is playing with injury. The injury to Willie Colon may be the deciding factor on this season when all is said and done.
As far as the pass defense doing well: It’s deceptive. Because of our inability to stop the run, passing teams do not have to throw on us to be successful. It’s sad but that’s what it comes to. Our defensive line fell off a cliff in terms of ability this past offseason, which does have to do, in part to do with injuries guys like Aaron Smith are recovering from. Nonetheless, they are not getting the job done, and as a result the linebackers are really struggling to get good lanes to the ballcarrier/quarterback.
The only positives I’m seeing are the young wide receivers are steadily growing better and better. Brown in particular. Yes he ran the wrong route early on, but Ben should have hit him on that overthrow towards the end of the first half. Brown was winning his matchups against Jason Allen (aka Mike Wallace’s b*tch) consistently and seems to have developed into our number 2 wideout. I believe he’s second in both receptions and targets on the team and may even be second in yards.
Overall we need to improve on every front. No one is above criticism right now-coaches, players, front office-no one.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Oct 2, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions
Next week will be huge
Tennessee is 3-1 and will be competing for a WC barring an unforeseen collapse by either them or Houston. If we can’t wrest the division from Baltimore, so will we. A loss next week and people really could start saying “season’s over” without sounding like trolls.
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I hate to make these kinds of proclamations in Week 5, but...
Tennessee is a must-win game. The AFC is stacked this year, 12-4 is a wild card, and there may be two 12-4 non division champions. Division record and AFC record will be huge, and we’ve already lost a divisional game and two AFC games. We gotta win the rest of our AFC slate, starting next week if we want to contend for the playoffs.
It’s not over, but they really don’t have any more margin for error.
Yup
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
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Please somebody say something to cheer me up! This season is tough on me! I can’t stand to see teams be able to run on our Pittsburgh Steelers! Big Ben has got to be the toughest son of a gun I have never met! Good thing or he would be broken in half!
Is it just me
Or is getting killed by another team through the air a lot less painful than getting killed on the ground?
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Its not just you :(
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by Michael Hewitt on Oct 2, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
But you know what, they ran right at Woodley and he let them thru all day. We stuffed most of the middle/left runs.
Pass D was solid with Lewis and Gay. This is against a pass happy team.
17 points allowed on D two fumbles forced (none recovered sadly) against one of the leagues best offenses.
I’ll take it.
Ravens Fan Here
I’m not here to gloat at all because i’m not one of those kind of fans. I have nothing but respect for the Steelers. And I don’t want to tell you guys what you already know, but there are serious problems with Pittsburgh and it’s dissapointing in a way to me. Strange tactic on my part you might say, but I look forward to our game in week nine. I know some of you will get mad and say "we’re gonna smash the Ravens in week nine but that is just fan hype. I know that it usually doesn’t matter when the Steelers lose a few in the beginning because you guys always come back and get your act together to play smash mouth football and that is what I want in week nine. I would be lying if I said that I wasn’t glad for the loss today because it’s like a Baltimore win. But as far as you guys getting it together, I have my doubts. It seems different this season so far (I know it’s early still). But I don’t know what you guys can do to remedy a few things. The thing that stands out to me is the O-Line.
I mean what can be done? Practice harder? How do you improve verterans? Where’s the “next man up” when someone is hurt?
Again, no disrespect, but please offer your own opinions other than trash talk. I know I’m on your blog and I do post here because I’m interested obviously.
Thanks
You guys could help by losing tonight! :-P
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That is good humor
but I don’t want that to be the answer. ROFL
The thing that stands out to me is the O-Line.
Understatement of the Year, right there. Although I wouldn’t say the line stands out, I think it gets moved four yards backward, then helps its 250 pound quarterback off the ground one of every three pass plays.
That's a huge biggie
I’ve never seen Big Ben sacked, touched, and interrupted so much in such a short time.
Basically our right side is shit now
Almost all of the big runs in this game were to the right side. Guess who’s job that is? Fatass Lamarr Woodley.
I was not a big fan of resigning him and I just think he’s not fast enough to handle his position.
He got his ass beat all day and didn’t stay in his lanes. He is the reason that big foster TD happened.
On the left side, Harrison basically halted any attempts to do anything oerhere.
Offensively, yeah the O-line is pretty bad. And the penalties they commited were silent killers.
This game could have been a LOT worse if 2 TDs and a fumble weren’t called back on Penalty.
Quick injury update...
…Ben was apparently walking around in the locker room with a boot on his foot, and would not say anything about next week other than “I’ll play if I can.” He had an x-ray after the game.
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by Craig Sager's Wardrobe on Oct 2, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Facepalm
If you think that picture is only from failblog you should die
by Dr. Disrespect on Oct 2, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rage face is either from 4chan or reddit. one of the two
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I especially enjoying laughing at the hilarious misfortunes of others.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This game is a classic example of OL CONTINUITY vs. NON-CONTINUITY.
Hard to have continuity when you lose both OT’s.
Stay thirsty my friends.
Its not just that
We’ve started 4 different O-Line combinations this year.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
thats my point.
Texans have had a pretty consistent OL. And it shows.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Oct 2, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
we have played four games, so 4 combos in 4 games. Maybe by game 16 we will have played 16 with 16.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 3, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Can anyone tell me who came in for Harrison when he was out?
I was watching at my mom’s and could not tell.
Worilds
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure...
Everyone says Worilds was, but I didn’t see anyone doing anything…probably why they lied about Harrison’s injury and put him back on the field.
Worilds got hurt, too.
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by Craig Sager's Wardrobe on Oct 2, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I counted at least one Worilds pressure. The guy can rush the passer at least.
Anyone else pleased with Heyward’s play the last couple of games? Two gaps well, gets pressure when one on one, is smooth and athletic when dropping.
by BluegrassSteeler on Oct 2, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Worilds looked pretty good
He just needs to spend the offseason in the weight room.
And Heyward is looking really good out there. Imagine how good he’ll be when he learns some real technique.
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by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Something has been bothering me all season
Is Patrick Chung asian? And if not, why not?
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Oct 2, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
lmao
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by Michael Hewitt on Oct 2, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of all the things that could bother you, that did it
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by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Update
After some research at the Library of Congress, Chung is on Chinese-Jamaican descent. His father is Chinese-Jamaican and his mother is Afro-Jamaican.
I thought he was Dutch.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Oct 2, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He could pass for Messican
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by SteelerMessican on Oct 2, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Chinese-Jamaican, I think.
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by ISN on Oct 3, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I am not worried about the sky falling on our season...yet.
I am hoping the coaching staff handcuffs the OL together this week so they can learn to work better as a unit. I would also like to see Troy light a fire under some of team mates on defense.
Gentlemen, we can rebuild them. We have the talent and the coaching staff to make them better, faster, stronger.
Which pretty much means as they were last year. Not asking for much.
Oh Joy
Roethlisberger in walking boot as he leaves stadium. X-Ray results not back yet.
Balls. Well gotta hand it to Ben, he’s a warrior.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Oct 2, 2011 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
When was he injured?
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
On the first play of the last drive
JJ Watt rolled into his leg in the end zone and was flagged for a roughing the passer. The penalty negated an INT. Ben got up gimpy. But to his credit stayed in the game.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Oct 2, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
I turned the game off after the INT so I didn’t notice.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever
-Napoleon Bonaparte
The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.
-Thomas Szasz
Cornell University Class of 2014
by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
haha yea well all you missed was Ben running for his life and somehow avoiding sacks for the next 2 plays or so and then he tried to find Brown deep and Brown fell as he went up for the jump ball and Jason Allen picked it off.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Oct 2, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Will he be all over ESPN like Romo now? Nope.
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
When was he not injured?
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever
-Napoleon Bonaparte
The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.
-Thomas Szasz
Cornell University Class of 2014
by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
SonOFAMother!!!!
Hope it’s not too bad..Ben is pretty tough so I think he’ll play through whatever it is.
#Leo"Don't wait for the one u can live with, wait for the one u can't live without"
"#Leo born on July 26 not only possess amazing star quality and an intriguing personality, but draw attention to themselves without trying." #SoTrue
I think so too
The fact that he didn’t leave the game gives me some confidence he’ll be ok.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Oct 2, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Steeler's Digest
Says he was on crutches…
Confidence starting to fade
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Oct 2, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Eek
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever
-Napoleon Bonaparte
The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.
-Thomas Szasz
Cornell University Class of 2014
by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
More injury news (good)
From James Harrison’s Twitter:
I don’t have a concussion, my forehead pad in my helmet came down and hit me in the eye when I made contact with the tackle.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Oct 2, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
I am not in panic mode . . .
But I see little room for optimism. The OL is getting Ben killed — today was brutal. The defense is holding together but there is no QB pressure and no forcing turnovers, not to mention, Bal and Hou ran all over our asses. I just do not see a bright future, but maybe we can turn it around..
"Chew on it. Chew on it and swallow it whole. Chew on it men, we’ll be fine" -Mike Tomlin
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." -Jack Lambert, 1990 HoF Introduction
It's always darkest before dawn
Although dawn might not come for a while. Or it could come next week.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever
-Napoleon Bonaparte
The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.
-Thomas Szasz
Cornell University Class of 2014
by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 2, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It's dark in a casket too.
"Aye, do tiitieboy twochainz got twitter?"
by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Oct 2, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It is also darkest
when it is really, really dark!
"Canada is a great country, one of the hopes of the world. We can be a better one – a country of greater equality, justice, and opportunity." Jack Layton (R.I.P.)
"My city's still breathing (but barely it's true) through buildings gone missing like teeth. The sidewalks are watching me think about you, all sparkled with broken glass. I'm back with scars to show. Back with the streets I know. They never take me anywhere but here. " John K Samson (Left and Leaving)
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 3, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
and at the
bottom of a well
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Oct 3, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I won't blame just the O-line
There were few instances where Ben could have thrown the ball better. Either that or there was total chaos out there in terms of communication between Ben and his receivers.
I would say the loss is 50% Ben and 50% O-line.
I had no expectations from this game anyway. I just hope that the injuries are not severe enough.
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
At least our high draft position next year maybe yield us a top notch OT.
Who’s it looking like Seton???
Stay thirsty my friends.
This is Suicide...
The Front office is dumb. They are trashing the franchise QB with poor protection. BB was not given an extra second to hit No.17 when it is needed. Look at the protection Brady got today and Matt schaub. Looks like he has to get a new QB for another 2-3 weeks :-(
MT talked about fixing things by Monday. He has to fix OL. He has to fix DL and the sloppy play by Woodley. What about the special team play where SS missed the FG ???. Awful. He has to fix that too. On top of that he has to fix himself with a strong shot tequila !
What about Troy, play football & quit the commecials!
@ the Texans 5 letting Foster for a big run & whiffing on the winning TD. Did you see his face? Embarassing, Troy needs to focus on football, not commercials!
LOL LOL LOL
Peyton Manning, he sucks at football because he does too many commercials. Or wait is it Manning is really good at football because he never does commercials???
Shit, I forget.
Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)
You came on here to complain about Troy's commercials?
This is gonna be a long week.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Oct 2, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
*facepalm*
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
or is it
palmface?
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Oct 3, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I stopped reading after:
The Front office is dumb
If the Front Office is dumb then I need 24/7 Supervision around sharp objects
Formerly known as Steeler_
BTSC's token Kiwi fan. That means I'm a New Zealander. Yes, that small country next to Australia....no we are not part of Australia
by Michael Hewitt on Oct 3, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
OL Terrible
OL is a joke. This blog has reputable anaylysis. Gilbert should be @ LT. Sign the Hotel for RT. Had the ball with 3:30 zero, had the ball with 1:30 zero. You cannot get a silk purse out of a sows ear ala Essex. He did not make the team. 10-6 with luck, no playoff & hope that Big Ben is not permanently damaged from this terrible OL.
We can't afford the Hotel
Maybe we can just curl up on a park bench under an old newspaper for the night instead.
"Canada is a great country, one of the hopes of the world. We can be a better one – a country of greater equality, justice, and opportunity." Jack Layton (R.I.P.)
"My city's still breathing (but barely it's true) through buildings gone missing like teeth. The sidewalks are watching me think about you, all sparkled with broken glass. I'm back with scars to show. Back with the streets I know. They never take me anywhere but here. " John K Samson (Left and Leaving)
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 3, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
can a team "cut" a player under contract?
sorry for the rookie question, but was wondering if its possible. thanks.
In Communist China and Russia, you have 1 choice of "Kool Aid": RED
In America, you have 2 choices of "Kool Aid": RED (republican), AND BLUE (democrat)
The difference is, in China and Russia THEY KNOW IT’S KOOL AID.
Texans worst fans in NFL
Hey guys, I was at the game and the Texans are the most classless fans in the NFL. They don’t know how to watch football (even with a win)….
but does anyone want to blame BB and the WRs a little? it seems like they didn’t know their routes again…
Why were they bad?
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by John Stephens on Oct 2, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well they won, had a terrific game, and were the most unsportsmanlike fans I’ve seen at a football game (including drunk college kids here at UT). Heckling included touching and complete disrespect. Four guys in front of us were kicked out after purposely spilling beer on my poor old mother and yelling aggressively in her face…fights breaking out after the game during the exit. They need to learn how to win.
by FeeltheSteel on Oct 3, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter
how you run your route if your QB is on the ground or running for his life as soon as he takes the snap.
I saw several thrown-away downs where BB had time to throw and threw it to someone who wasn’t around nor looking backwards
by FeeltheSteel on Oct 3, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Dead Man Walking
Until they replace the high school seniors on the offensive line with at least an offensive line from the Big Ten, then Roethlisberger is right to stay in a boot and let a younger (or older) guy take those hits. When I told my kids that Big Ben would literally die behind that line I didn’t think I was being serious but I guess I was.
And, do you know who covers tight-ends? Linebackers. Did you see the Steelers linebackers chasing the Texans tight-ends all game? When Warren Sapp says old and slow, this is what he’s talking about. Interestingly, it was the Patriots, in the game last year, that showed the league how to beat the Steelers – 2 tight end sets, chip the linebacker coming off the line, catch a wide open pass, run for 10 yards. Now every team in the league is copying that formula to beat this defense.
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