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Pregame Zone Blitz: Dipping Into Roadhouse for Road Game Against Bengals

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Backs against the wall? Not really, especially with a sagging level of competition in the AFC. The Jets are charging the Ravens, who sit on top. But, the game of the week is between these two teams; Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The Best Cooler in the Business takes his home field to smack the defending champs in the mouth, and establish his team as legit contenders in the AFC North. The Steelers look to avoid an 0-3 start in the division they won last year, and knock the upstart Bengals back down to earth.

It's a great match-up, as mid-November football brings us closer to the last leg of the regular season, when contenders crank it to 11, and pretenders shrink. Which do each of these teams fit into? Let's find out. 

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Cincinnati Enquirer reporter Joe Reedy went to Steelers FS Ryan Clark to get his thoughts on Bengals QB Andy Dalton.

Cincy Jungle is worried about the injuries along the tight end position.

Last Game

That may just have been the worst regular season loss the Steelers have dealt with in the Roethlisberger Era. There, we said it. It's out in the open. But it's only that, a regular season loss.

On one hand, many other teams would be perfectly happy with being 6-3 before a winnable game and a bye week, with a winnable schedule the rest of the way. On the other, the Steelers have started 6-2 each season under coach Mike Tomlin since 2007, and have finished with records of 10-6, 12-4, 9-7 and 12-4.

Past success is no indication of future performance.

But maybe past success can be a foundation for improved future performance. It's not as if the Steelers played poorly in the loss. There were two passes that could have been picked off on that last drive, a few incompletions, a few missed sack opportunities. The Steelers offense still handled the Ravens better than any other team has all year.

None of that makes up for a loss, but that's not the point. Pittsburgh played much better in Week 9 than they did against Tennessee in 2008 - an equally tough loss to a quality opponent - and managed to rebound.

All of that begins at Cincinnati against a very tough, young Bengals team. 

Us Against The World

How utterly ridiculous is it that James Harrison makes a football act and gets fined $75,000, and Richard Seymour, despite whatever happened to provoke him, slugs a player on national TV in full view of the cameras and knocks him to the ground -- and gets fined $25,000. Weak. Very weak.

Peter King

The hallowed lead quote for this section nearly changed this week when FS Ryan Clark was fined $40,000 for a glancing blow to Ed Dickson's chest went a bit further north than Clark expected. Peter King, the author of the quote of "Us Against The World," in response to some chowderhead who suggested Clark should be "...fined until he stops," Tweeted Wednesday, "Stops what? Lowering his head and aiming for a guy's sternum? Bury a guy when he AIMS for head. Clark didn't."

It's always seemed strange to me how everyone can hate King (for the record, I didn't see a problem with this comment this week that SS Troy Polamalu's body language was negative after Baltimore's game-winning touchdown. He's right. It was. It's not a shot at the Steelers or Polamalu, he's just reporting what happened). But the fact is, he's the only writer in the national media who's outwardly and vociferously against the sheer ridiculousness of these policies.

I've written on here I felt the play, according to the rules, deserved a penalty - or at least a penalty wasn't a surprise - and I'm not surprised by a fine. I've also written about my disdain for those rules, and the act of fining in lieu of any other method of punishment will ultimately lead to a decline in quality of defensive play.

Treating Clark as a "repeat offender" based on the hit on Dickson is utterly preposterous. He clearly aimed with his shoulder, and after he hit Dickson's chest, the force of the hit drew Dickson's head inward toward Clark's, and it was only then did their helmets make contact.

That is not the same as a helmet-to-helmet hit; or, the same thing as Ravens LBs Ray Lewis or Jameel McClain did. It's hard to say why neither Lewis nor McClain were penalized, and while Lewis has been fined for his kill shot on WR Hines Ward, as of the time of publication, McClain was not fined.

As angry as Clark is (and understandably should be), the real crime here is the fact Antonio Brown gets no retribution for a cheap shot that cost the Steelers a first down. It's classic old-school football to say he should have held onto the ball, but he was knocked unconscious for cripessake.

An absolutely ridiculous fine, possibly the worst of all time.

Opponent Spotlight: QB Andy Dalton

"His name...is Dalton."

"I kinda thought he'd be bigger."

It'd be easy to force a comparison between the Bengals rookie QB and the legendary character played by Patrick Swayze in "Roadhouse." It may not be too far off, either.

Dalton isn't the biggest player at his position. He's not the best either ("Wade Garrett's the best"). But what he lacks on the surface he's making up for by rising to the challenge of the situation.

He's better on third downs than he is on first and second. Even more impressive, he has four 4th quarter come-from-behind wins - a stat owned in the AFC North by Roethlisberger.

By all accounts, he's quiet but a strong silent leader. He's very even-keeled, a trait that will benefit him against a fierce Steelers defense. Both of these are traits unlike former Bengals QB Carson Palmer.

That could indicate Cincinnati's success is addition by subtraction. Not taking anything away from Dalton, but Palmer was one of the worst quarterbacks in the game last season. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis was quoted earlier this season as saying Palmer had decided well before last season was over that he wanted out.

Cincinnati wisely honored his request. Who wants a quarterback who doesn't want to be there? Who wants a leader who doesn't want to lead?

The hyperbole surrounding the Bengals' intangibles and non-statistical talent they have is trite. The fact is they have a tough-as-nails defense (led by emerging superstar DE Carlos Dunlap), overachieving performances from WRs like Jerome Simpson complimenting physical freaks like WR A.J. Green and TE Jermaine Gresham and a Pro Bowl level OT in Andrew Whitworth.

Dalton is the straw that stirs the drink. Even if he's not the best cooler in the business, he's good enough to win the game Sunday.

Steelers Spotlight:  OLB James Harrison

After being snubbed for the otherwise-worthless AFC Defensive Player of the Week, Harrison re-groups for a battle with outstanding Bengals LT Andrew Whitworth.

Whitworth has taken over the locker room leadership of the young-but-talented Bengals in wake of Carson Palmer's departure. Whitworth, combined with Dalton's borderline disinterested calm, establishes a strong sense of confidence, and that kind of consistency mirrors in his pass protection.

It's the kind of trait a tackle needs to block the unrelenting Harrison. Ravens LT Bryant McKinnie broke down early in the second half, and Harrison ate him alive for the remaining two quarters. Harrison's conditioning was not at its peak, and probably won't be 100 percent for his showdown with Whitworth either, but what Whitworth has in savvy and presence, he doesn't quite have in athleticism. Harrison's ability comes from his conditioning and his flexibility. He plays lower to the ground than any other defensive player in the league, and is one of the few pass rushers who can not only boast going around or through a blocker, but under him as well.

Getting in Dalton's head will be critical in this game, and that rush will likely come from Harrison.

I See You

I see you, Larry Foote. You've filled in wonderfully in James Farrior's absence, and this defense hasn't missed a beat. Baltimore has an outstanding offense, particularly their running game, but your ability to smash their protection schemes and defend Rice in the flats made a huge difference, right up to the end.

You'll see Baltimore again. There's no doubt. But Cincinnati is first. They play the way you like; straight ahead, bashing heads and talking trash. It looks as if Farrior will be back, and you'll return to your head-bashing Buck LB position. I've got nothing but confidence in your ability to hammer the gaps and don't let Cedric Benson breathe.

Key Stats

  • Cincinnati is 11-1 when Cedric Benson has 25 or more carries
  • If the season ended after Week 9, Cincinnati would be the No. 1 seed in the AFC
  • The combined records of the Bengals first eight opponents is 16-33
  • The combined records of the Bengals remaining eight opponents is 36-31

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contenders crank it to 11

“You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You’re on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you’re on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?… What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do? …Put it up to eleven.”

Let’s go, Steelers!

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Nov 11, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

but couldn't you just make ten louder?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 11, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice

Send him back to biotch school.

"They eat fish and are majestic" - Great Sergios Ghost

by Varmint on Nov 12, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I wanna see

Tony B’s penguin dance in the end zone again. Putting Hines’ mirror ball to the test.

by Damnscot on Nov 11, 2011 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

somebody, please, make a GIF out of that!

by Damnscot on Nov 11, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

someone already did.

i’ll try to find the post for you.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 11, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Bengals defense overrated

The Bengals have achieved a lofty #4 ranking in yards allowed by playing the following teams (NFL offensive YPG rank in parenthesis):

Jaguars (32)
Colts (31)
Browns (30)
Seahawks (29)
Titans (27)
49ers (26)
Broncos (20)
Bills (12)

That’s right, the Bengals have “shut down” the four worst offenses in the NFL and six of the worst seven. They have played no team with a top 10 offense and only one team in the upper half of the league.

Admittedly, the Steelers have played several of these same lame offenses. But the Steelers have also played two top-10 offenses, the Patriots (2) and Texans (8), and played twice against the Ravens (16). And, of course, the Steelers defense faces the NFL’s #9 offense in practice every day. :-)

by Steelin on Nov 11, 2011 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

lol

The Steelers are super…
They barely beat the Jags with a rookie QB. They barely beat a Colts team on a Monday night with a QB off the bench. You beat the Patriots, who got beat by the Bills who got beat by the Bengals. Then you get stomped by the Ravens who went on the get beat by the Jags.
Oooo the big scary Steelers.

Yep, the Bengals aren’t for real. I can’t wait till Sunday night to read all your excuses as to why you got beat. I am sure they will good.. They always are.

"Next season will be better" circa 1990

by Yarin on Nov 11, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

you'd think, as a Bengals fan, you'd have learned by now.

I do understand you don’t get to feel good about the team very often, but come on.
you’re coming on to blog about the STEELERS criticizing STEELERS fans who think the STEELERS are a better team.
How can you not see the ridiculousness of your trolling?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 11, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

where did I criticize Steeler fans

I stated facts. The teams Cincy beat were in question as to how go they are or aren’t. Ithen pointed out the fact you barelt beat some of the same teams.

"Next season will be better" circa 1990

by Yarin on Nov 11, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

What is a barelt?

"you will hardly know who I am or what I mean"-Walt Whitman

by Pittsblitz56 on Nov 11, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

there is site that you would feel right at home in

it’s called Yahoo! sports.
it’s right up your alley

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by FrankWyt on Nov 11, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

cant handle thr truth?

"Next season will be better" circa 1990

by Yarin on Nov 11, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

thr truth?

nothing you have typed indicates any type of truth troll. The truth that can’t be handled is that Yahoo is for people like you.
We can go over your imagined truths though.
Jags, very solid defense, Gabbert didn’t do much at all.
Saying “they beat them who beat them” blah blah blah, is stupid. It means nothing. The Rams beat the Saints, you think that automatically makes the Saints a bad team?
The Colts team’s strength was the Steelers weakness at the time, edge rushers against atrocious o-line players like Jon Scott. You can look to last nights game as an indicator of what happens to an offense when the defense is constantly in the back field.
“almost” means nothing, they won.
ad baculum is not a solid basis for anything. but if you do want to get into that, the Bengals lost to the Broncos..so there’s that.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 11, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Fact

You beat 1 team with a winning record—the same as Cincinnati .That is all that needs to be said.

"Next season will be better" circa 1990

by Yarin on Nov 11, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

+1
You can look to last nights game as an indicator of what happens to an offense when the defense is constantly in the back field.

And the Raiders STILL gave the Chargers every opportunity to win that game late. The Raiders are not a better team overall than the Chargers, but the Raiders match up with them better. There’s a difference between a team’s ability standing alone and when compared with another. Houston matches up with Pittsburgh very well. Houston, part for part, is not a better team than Pittsburgh.

Indianapolis did a lot of good things in their loss to Pittsburgh. There’s no such thing as a bad win.

“You are what your record says you are.”
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by Neal Coolong on Nov 11, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you actually watch the Bengals games? You didn’t blow out the Jaguars either. They were actually leading with under 2 minutes to go in that game. Nor did you really blow out that Colts team. They were only behind 3 points near the 2 minute mark in the fourth. The only team you really blew out was the Seahawks, the team we shut out.

I’m not saying your team isn’t for real, but your reasoning and logic sucks.

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by John Stephens on Nov 11, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it might be wise if everyone in the AFC North simply admits the Jaguars are much tougher than their record indicates. Of the three real teams in the North, no one blew Jacksonville out, and one of them lost. That’s not a bad team, just too young on offense to win games in the fourth quarter.

Cincinnati pulls those kinds of games out, but Pittsburgh’s three losses have all come to likely AFC playoff teams. They’ve proven they can play with the best. Will Cincinnati be able to stick with them through the first three quarters? It’s a good question. If they can, I’d lay money on them to win. If they can’t, though, people are gonna be talking about the bottom falling out on a quality and surprising season in Cincinnati.

I’m just glad you guys got rid of Palmer. Absolutely hate that guy.

by Neal Coolong on Nov 11, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Agree

Sucks for the Jags having to play all of the AfCN, they could have won all of those games though and would have a good record now.

Also a good call on the game summary. If the Bengals can keep it close till about the second half of the third quarter the Steelers will be in trouble. But the Steeler Offense might run it up in the first half and not give Cinci a chance to get back in it.

by TheVilified on Nov 11, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Your point is?

I never stated we blew anyone out in any game. Like you I stated that you barely beat certain teams. My point is to the OP who stated we have not beat anyone. I just stated neither have you guys.

My reasoning and logic sucks— yet you use the same reasoning and logic to reply?

"Next season will be better" circa 1990

by Yarin on Nov 11, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was quite evident what my point was in the last sentence.

My other point, like Neal elaborated, is that Jaguars team is actually pretty darn good. They just have a QB who isn’t capable of putting the team on his shoulders at this point. He doesn’t have an AJ Green to throw to.

And on the Colts, we barely beat them in Indianapolis, which is a lot more acceptable than barely beating them on your own turf IMO.

And your attempt to discredit the Pats win is so illogical I didn’t even try to address it. So, because you beat a team that beat a team, it doesn’t matter that we beat them? Solid logic. Or, how about we just address that the Pats have a damn good offense and have been a solid team for years. That’s a quality win.

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by John Stephens on Nov 11, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

And

I should mention you are on a Steelers blog. Steelers homerism is appreciated and encouraged here.

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by John Stephens on Nov 11, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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yep………I rec’d it!

by steeler fever on Nov 12, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

What is “barely beating” an NFL team, anyway? The Colts players are still professional athletes. Playing on the road in primetime is an extremely difficult thing to do. Winning those games takes more than just your usual effort.

When the rubber meets the road, though, it doesn’t matter who you’ve beaten. All that matters is that you did beat them. If either team plays six teams they should have beaten, and did, I don’t see how the manner in which they beat them is relevant.

by Neal Coolong on Nov 11, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep..you don't extra points for the "difficult" wins

they all count the same

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Nov 11, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

True

But you can’t blame the Bengals for playing the teams that are on the schedule. The Bengals did play the Bills, but the Bengals have faced a truly tough test yet… It’ll be interesting to see if the Bengals can contain Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown. If anything, the Bengals are susceptible to the big play, and the Steelers seem to have plenty of those.

by drj112379 on Nov 11, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully Brown can get at least one

“Browny wiggle” in on you…that would make my day, and it should make yours, even if you don’t like the Steelers.
But you guys have a tough defense, so I don’t see much running on the menu, but our team has a pretty good passing offense.
What has been the Bengals strong point on offense this year? run or pass?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 11, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

More so the pass than the run

But we’re definitely not one dimensional. I just think the run game is not exactly where we want it to be, but Benson has been able to rip off a couple decent runs, but he’s not dominating by any standard

by drj112379 on Nov 11, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

what about defense?

better against the run or pass?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 11, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Palmer wasn't the worse QB last year

Inconsistent would be the best word to describe Palmer last year. Palmer had games like the one against the Chargers (4 TDs, 157 rating), and then games against you guys (1 TD, 3 INT, 48.7 rating). Even after all that, I was sad to see Palmer go, but now with Dalton behind center, I’m really excited. Hopefully you guys don’t knock the stuffing out of Dalton and burst Cincinnati’s bubble.

by drj112379 on Nov 11, 2011 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

Did you see

the excellent article in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review this morning about Marvin Lewis and the Cinci team? I can see why you’re excited. I’ve always liked Lewis as a coach, and thought he was getting a raw deal in Cinci, and now that it seems that he’s much more in charge I’m more nervous about Sunday. As somebody in the Steelers organization said the other day, the Bengals aren’t going to beat themselves for us anymore – we’re going to actually have to do all the work if we want to come out with a win. This should be a great game.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Nov 11, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

well said.

It is starting to look like there might be three solid and impressive teams in the AFCN consistently for a few years at least. I hope this turns into a lot of primetime games.

by TheVilified on Nov 11, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I live just outside Cincy, and think Marvin has done a great job considering the overall lack of talent and the absence of grey matter in both the owner’s box and under the helmet of several players. Think about this…their previous home games have been blacked out…this is their first sell-out and is likely because of Steeler Nation.

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by The 58 Standard on Nov 12, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Cincy protects Dalton well, and he’s probably best described at this point in his career as “not stupid.”

I know that sounds like a back-handed compliment, but it’s a good thing to have. He doesn’t make a ton of bad mistakes, certainly not as many as his rookie counterparts do – including Newton.

Palmer lost you guys games last year. Dalton avoids those kinds of plays, and you end up on the winning side of some games I believe Palmer would have lost you.

by Neal Coolong on Nov 11, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

All your posts are right on

Its awesome. Yeah, Dalton has the ability to lead winning drives, but his best asset is staying in the game and capitalizing on the mistakes of opponents.

The whole Bengal concept this year is to wear down the other team then destroy them in the latter second half. But I am not sure how well this will work against other AFCN teams so it will be an interesting game this week.

by TheVilified on Nov 11, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I will be there on Sunday

It seems like the Steelers always either trounce the Bengals, or this game will come down to the wire. I’m hoping for the later, even though those games can be tough to watch…

Haven’t read the article yet. I will have to check it out.

by drj112379 on Nov 11, 2011 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

If Palmer could give Dalton some advice,

He’d probably say something like, “I used to be just like you; a young, NFL quarterback full of possibilities and off to what I felt was a fast start. But look at me now. I had to get out of Mike Brown’s Little Chamber of Horrors or I was fully prepared to call it quits.”

Brown and his wacko organization have already proved—time and again—that they could screw up a 2-car funeral. This isn’t saying that the Bungles aren’t an improving team or that they don’t have the ability to upset the Steelers on any given Sunday. But Carson Palmer never was the problem on this team, and most people in Cincinnati are smart enough to realize that. They should have put up a big sign in the locker room for Dalton on his first day as a Bungle: “Welcome to Hell, kid!”

by Billy52 on Nov 11, 2011 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

Dalton’s a gamer. Palmer was and is a pussy.

by Neal Coolong on Nov 11, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think we know what Dalton is yet.

But Palmer was a pretty good-looking QB before Mike Brown ruined him. I will agree, though, that for the last three seasons that Palmer played in Cincy, he wasn’t worth much.

by Billy52 on Nov 11, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

right and yet wrong

correct that Palmer was not the whole problem, but so many changes this offseason for the Bengals and it is an entirely different culture. One of the biggest changes (and the one that should scare Steeler fans) is the change at O coordinator.

I say it whould scare the steelers because the old system had Palmer waiting forever to try to throw a 15-40 yard pass each attempt. That sort of gameplan plays right into the steeler D. This year with Gruden (no the other one) the O tends to actually look at the D and try to pick it apart in a west coast style. This quick drop and out passing game could hurt the steelers a lot more than the big play or bust O of the Palmer era.

by TheVilified on Nov 11, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the most endearing quality of Bungles fans,

Every year they hail the arrival of a new culture and new attitude. And then reality sets in.

by Billy52 on Nov 11, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish

that this year didn’t feel more like it is for real…

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by Rebecca Rollett on Nov 12, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree they look like a pretty strong team with a good young QB and good WRs.

But Mike Brown has devised ways of screwing up a football team that are truly mind-blowing. And after being continually jilted for as long as anyone can remember, I’m afraid of what Bengal fans might do if this latest “new and improved” version fizzles out. I lived in Cincy for 13 years and I’ve seen their trauma up close. Not a pretty sight!

by Billy52 on Nov 12, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m really excited about this game and I expect the Bengals to win, but I’ve been excited by the Bengals before and been let down (almost every time). Good or bad, we always seem to beat the Ravens. Good or bad, we always seem to lose to you.

I know it will be labeled as such one way or the other, but I don’t think beating the Steelers means we’re legit and I don’t think losing means we’re fake.

Steelers fans predictions of score of the game? Is this just another game against your ‘little brother’ or are you actually worried you might lose? If Bengals win, are they legit in your eyes or will it be more about the Steelers failure? I figure most/all of you expect a win, just curious as to what you think the score will be.

by angrypanda on Nov 11, 2011 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

Bengals had good year in 2009 and then blew it when it counted.

In 2010 they sucked again as everyone figured them out. I think until the Bengals have consistency they will still have a problem proving themselves.

by steeler_in_maryland on Nov 11, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed
I know it will be labeled as such one way or the other, but I don’t think beating the Steelers means we’re legit and I don’t think losing means we’re fake.

Getting to the playoffs is the standard for legit. We’ll see how the AFCN shakes out. It might be 75% legit by the time the regular season ends.

by SteelheadOH on Nov 11, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

props to the op

for knowing “roadhouse”, thats more a cincy thing. national media seems to be enamored with calling dalton, “the red rifle.”

couple of cincy fans tossed around “red green” and “the red green show”, never caught on since its a canuck reference.

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Nov 12, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions  


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