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AFC North Round Up Week 10: Fortunes Changed Edition

SEATTLE, WA - NOVEMBER 13: Defensive back Kam Chancellor #31 of the Seattle Seahawks collides with wide receiver Anquan Boldin #81 during a game at CenturyLink Field on November 13, 2011 in Seattle, Washington. Chancellor was flagged for a helmet-to-helmet hit on the play. The Seahawks won the game 22-17. (Photo by Stephen Brashear/Getty Images)


What a difference seven short days makes in the National Football League. Not to pick on anybody for sharing what was on their mind last week in the wake of the Steelers heartbreaking 23-20 home loss to the Baltimore Ravens, but I could only shake my head when I read anything that suggested that Pittsburgh's Week 10 road game against the Bengals was a do-or-die situation if the six-time Super Bowl champions hoped to return to the playoffs for the fourth time in five years since Mike Tomlin was named head coach.

Sorry but that's bologna. Eight weeks is an eternity in this league, and a 1.5 game lead is the furthest thing from insurmountable over a two month stretch. I do think though that part of the anxiety about this past Sunday can be attributed to most believing that the Baltimore Ravens would improve to 7-2 easily by dismantling the Seattle Seahawks up here in the Emerald City.

Not so fast. The Ravens were overwhelmed by the Seahawks and nearly got run off the field in their 22-17 loss. Had Seattle not had to settle for five field goals, that could have easily been a 35-plus point game for Seattle. Anyway, bottom line is anything can and will happen in this league. Each game from here on out is obviously important, but the race for the AFC North crown is not over until it has been mathematically clinched by one of the three primary contenders through ten weeks -- the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals. After this past Sunday, don't expect any one of the three squads to run away with the division.

To the updated standings and what unfolded for each of the four AFC North teams in Week 10.

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AFC North Standings (through Week 10)
Team Record Div. Record Conf. Record Streak Scoring Differential
Pittsburgh Steelers 7-3 1-2 5-3 Won 1 + 41
Baltimore Ravens 6-3 2-0 5-2 Lost 1 + 73
Cincinnati Bengals 6-3 1-1
4-2 Lost 1 + 48
Cleveland Browns 3-4 0-1 2-4 Lost 3 - 52

 

AFC Standings Through Week 10:

  1. Houston Texans (7-3)

  2. Pittsburgh Steelers (7-3)

  3. New England Patriots (6-3)

  4. Oakland Raiders (5-4)

  5. Baltimore Ravens (6-3)

  6. Cincinnati Bengals (6-3)

View complete NFL standings

Pittsburgh Steelers
  • Record: 7-3
  • Week 8 Result: 24-17 W at Cincinnati Bengals
  • How they did it: The Steelers played a solid, if not spectacular game on the road against an opponent that was riding a five-game winning streak. Pittsburgh outgained the Bengals 328 to 279, converted three of its four red zone trips into touchdowns, forced two turnovers defensively, and benefited from the very nice work turned in by recently re-signed punter Jeremy Kapinos. There was nothing extraordinarily impressive about the win, but good teams find ways to notch wins on the road in ho-hum fashion over the course of a long 16-game regular season. The Steelers did just that this past Sunday. 
  • Next Two Weeks: Bye week, @ Kansas City
Baltimore Ravens
  • Record: 6-3
  • Week 8 Result22-17 L at Seattle Seahawks
  • How they did it:Very odd game out in Seattle late Sunday afternoon between the Ravens and Seahawks. Seattle could have run them right out of the building had they not been 1-of-5 inside the red zone. The Ravens allowed Marshawn Lynch to record his second straight 100-yard rushing performance. It took Lynch 32 carries to get to 109 yards, but that commitment to the run kept the clock running and helped Seattle win the time of possession battle by over 10 minutes. I think Pittsburgh might be wise to take a page out of that playbook in the future. Even if the sledding is tough, there's some value to playing a grind-it-out game with Baltimore and making it tough for Joe Flacco to find his rhythm.
  • Next Two Weeks: vs. Cincinnati Bengals, vs. San Francisco 49ers
Cincinnati Bengals
  • Record: 6-3
  • Week 8 Result: 24-17 L vs. Pittsburgh Steelers
  • How they did it: I was fairly impressed with Andy Dalton. He certainly is committed to getting the ball out quickly. The Steelers did not sack Dalton once because of it, but I think over time, Dalton's going to have to allow things to materialize a bit longer before getting the ball out. If not, they're passing game will be too predictable -- quick hitting slants, curl routes and the occasional shot down the field to the sensational wide receiver talent A.J. Greene. Give credit to the Bengals' offensive line though. They played well enough for Cincinnati to accomplish some things offensively. The Bengals are on the right path, but they're not there yet.
  • Next Two Weeks: at Baltimore Ravens, 
Cleveland Browns
  • Record: 3-6
  • Week 8 Result: 13-12 L vs. St,. Louis Rams
  • How they did it: The Browns have lost four straight and five of their past six to officially erase any memory of their encouraging 2-1 start to the year. Sunday's loss to the Rams might have been the hardest one for Browns' fans to stomach. A botched snap on a 22-yard Phil Dawson field goal attempt with just over two minutes to play allowed the Rams to leave Cleveland with their first road win of the season. The Browns have scored just 57 points during their losing streak, and have scored more than 17 just once this season (27 in Week 2 win over Indianapolis). I suppose the growing pains for the Browns in Pat Shurmur's west coast offense are not yet over with. 
  • Next Two Weeks: vs. Jacksonville Jaguars, at Cincinnati Bengals 

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Wait...

aren’t the Ravens 2-0 in the division?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 15, 2011 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

nevermind, you mixed up the Bengals and Ravens division records...

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by FrankWyt on Nov 15, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember

Harrison was diving at Dalton knees, dirty player lol

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 15, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

lol..

if ever there was a case of seeing something on tv, and believing it’s always true..that’s one of them.
i watched that play a good 15-20 times after reading his comment, as to not make claims without knowing what i was talking about….
i just don’t get what he thought he saw there.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 15, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

it's the price to pay for having a successful team i guess

but geez…people’s “logic” is still “mind bottling”

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by FrankWyt on Nov 15, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

What are you guys talking about? Harrison diving at Dalton’s knees? On the TD pass to Gresham I guess he went low, but it wasn’t dirty.

by Neal Coolong on Nov 16, 2011 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh

but don’t tell that to this one bengals fan. He swore that Harrison dove at Dalton’s knees and that Benson whiffed on the block and had nothing to do with Harrison motion towards Dalton’s knees.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 16, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I can understand why

a Bengals fan would over react when a Steelers LB falls around their prized QB’s legs.

by steeler fever on Nov 16, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

of course

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 16, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I am a Bengals fan and I don't think it was dirty.

If the contact were solid it would have been a penalty because of the Brady Rule but dirty is a whole different level. If he wanted to play dirty he could have easily done some damage. I also understand where some Bengals fans are coming from. The Steelers had been involved in a couple of major injuries to Bengals players in relatively high profile situations with Palmer and Rivers. (Please I do not want to open that can of worms. I have let it go – I would hope you guys have) The debate about those two hits can go on forever. I don’t have the energy for it.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 16, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

True

Honestly though I can see how Bengals friends are jumpy about the Steelers. The Palmer hit could be seen as dirty. Most steelers fans don’t think Kemo VO meant to do it but I doubt that matters to most bengals fans. As for the Rivers hit, if you think thats dirty then I don’t know what to say.

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by tannofsteel84 on Nov 16, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I really asked you nice. Please, lets just agree to disagree on that one.

It has been argued to death and both sides are convinced they are right. I will never change your mind and you will never change mine. Please. Please. Just let it alone. I am actually sorry I even mentioned River’s name. Something like that is all it takes to disrupt a good productive football discussion. It is like picking at a scab – it just won’t heal.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 16, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean

it doesn’t bother me at all if you think it was dirty, thats your opinion. Im fine with that.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 16, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

wait, what?

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by John Stephens on Nov 16, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If you ask me

Was as much of a must win game as we will have in November… a loss would of had us looking at a second wild card hope for the playoffs… given both the Ravens and Steelers have the 49ers while the bengals get SD and Philly..and call me greedy but, I dont fancy fighting for a second wildcard seed…. not a mathamatically must win game, none the less a crutially needed win…. I dont expect the Ravens to roll over and play dead.. “are the bengals for real” well…..3 more games against Ravens n Steelers will show their metal…

by OR69faithfull on Nov 15, 2011 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

We don't play the Chargers or Eagles. The only other tough games we have are

tow with you guys, a game with the Steeler and another home game against the Texans and that game just got a bit easier with Leinart taking over. The other games we should (fingers crossed) win. IMO we nly need to win one of the tough four to make the playoffs. Something that wasn’t even on the outer edge of our radar four games into the season.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 16, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent Point

About sticking to the running game against Baltimore to try and fluster Flacco. Unfortunately, I don’t think Arians has the patience to stick with the run, especially when it’s not getting chunks of yardage.

Just look though, far inferior competition has been able to beat them through running it into the ground. If Arizona’s defense didn’t suck, they lose that game too.

by pistil_stamen on Nov 16, 2011 3:01 AM EST reply actions  

Arizona’s defense didn’t suck

lesser than or equal to the ScumRats running that same Pass Interference ‘play’ at game’s end

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"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton

by TVsCHACHI on Nov 16, 2011 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought Arizona’s defense really got after it in the second half. They gave up a huge play and a few others that shouldn’t have happened, but their line is nasty.

by Neal Coolong on Nov 16, 2011 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't wait for Flacco to be introduced to Cincy's pass rush

I also hope Ced Benson steps on Ray Lewis’ neck

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"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton

by TVsCHACHI on Nov 16, 2011 7:53 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, the Ravens better bring their A-game.

I think the fans in Baltimore are just about ready to boo Flacco out of the stadium if he has another bad game.

by Billy52 on Nov 16, 2011 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Which is hilarious considering he was the Messiah 2 weeks ago.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

like I said that Ravens game was a MUST win for Flacco

or he would have been literally ran out of town and that made for super motivation on his part in my opinion…..and yes he was the KING two weeks ago….now he’s CRAP and so is Harbs…hopefully they’ll fire that jackass after the season…Harbs I mean not Joe….can’t stand that mo fo…he cries more than my 2 yr old nephew does.

I Feel a Sin Coming On....

by the duchess of steel on Nov 16, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I think it is a similar issue for Joe that we have with BA

Cameron seems to create game plans that do not play into his strengths a lot of times and you have to wonder why Rice was on the bench for 90% of the game (not literally, just not getting touches) v Seattle.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Every Steelers game I watch

I wonder, at least a couple times, why someone doesn’t reign in BA and BR, and tell them “look, this thing you keep doing? It doesn’t work…like, ever. Try something else”.

However, when I watch BAL, I see whole quarters go by for Flacco where I think the same thing. I hate ’em (and they stink), but not running Rice on the Seahawks was the epitome of foolish.

Also, that photo- It sort of looks like Kam Chancellor is a lion, pouncing on Anquan Boldin prey…I wonder if he ate him after the photo was taken. If AB WAS eaten, I think the Steelers odds of winning a playoff rematch improve.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Nov 16, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

LWG, I think you and I agree on damn near everything...

I know you are really looking forward to that SF v Pitt game, I am hoping we can make it real hard for Gore out there – I know we can make it hard for Smith.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Even better

Is that I am going to that game, with my girlfriend, who is from Pittsburgh (hence why I started following the Steelers a couple years back.) We’ve already had “the talk” regarding possible outcomes.

You and I DO agree on damn near everything.

Also, Timmons and Willis will be forever linked in my mind- one has been exceptional, the other has been phenomenal. Can’t believe three of the best defenders in the NFL were taken right after each other in that draft (Revis being the 3rd).

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Nov 16, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, that thing they do sometime works.

Wallace? Brown? Heath? Just saying.

But I do think, as an OC, having your finger on what works and doesn’t at different times and different situations, is crucial. I think that, more than anything else, frustrates us as fans and puts our team in bad spots at times. He’s very intelligent. It just needs to be applied as the situation calls for.

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by Fifty-Eight on Nov 16, 2011 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We aren't disagreeing

I just need to see less empty backfield sets on downs where it wasn’t otherwise clear that they were going to pass, especially when the O-line can’t get the protection scheme right. And, stop forcing the long ball. It will come, but in the meantime, nothing wrong with 12 yards at a time to Heath and Spiderman.

But seriously- I AM looking for someone on the Steelers D to step up and literally eat Boldin. I think Big Snack is the obvious candidate, with Harrison being a close second- he doesn’t look like somebody who ISN’T capable of cannibalism.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Nov 16, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he was referring more to the bubble screens to Hines (he should be blocking on those) or the 5WR empty backfield sets on 3rd & 2...

A little more creativity would be welcomed. How is it that we can’t run screens in the flat to Mendenhall, but they are fine lining him up in 5 receiver sets?

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

This

And Mendenhall is a solid and willing blocker. Keep him in the backfield, it gives the play an extra possibility, AND extra time.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Nov 16, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely, BA can take a page from Cam there

Cause Rice is always killing us out of the backfield. I am more than happy to have it be Moore as well, he is a competent blocker and has great hands – we just don’t see enough RB sets in BA’s offensive scheme – that is why Suggs picked that damn ball off last game, hell 75% of America knew the bubble screen was coming…

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Precisely

Plus, if you leave Mendy in the backfield to block, it means Heath can slip away, and that’s a solid 8 yard gain if the ball has to be checked down.

Miller is a solid blocker, but it’s sad that such a legit receiver is taken out of the offensive game by design so frequently. That guy should get 5-6 targets per game.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Nov 16, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly!

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 18, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I would have been happier with a Ravens win in Seattle...

…and complacency set in with them against Cincy, in Bal’more. As it is…you know they’re going to come out fast and hard, at home, with a frothing crowd demanding nothing less than total annihalation of the Bengals.

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by PaVaSteeler on Nov 16, 2011 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

Zimm has had the Ravens number for many years

They have a rough time with Cinci every year, I think this may be more of an uphill battle than we are for them.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

This is true

Seems like Cincy beats them at least once each year. Granted, that may not be this week in Balt, but Baltimore has shown so much inconsistency that no game is a gimme. I really think Balt ends up 11-5, so we need to go 5-1 or 6-0 the rest of the way to win this division.

~Tommy~

by sb24ws2005 on Nov 16, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd say that is accurate

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

We will probably be short Green, Adam Jones and Carlos Dunlap this week.

This isn’t official but that is the way it looks. It is possible that they are thinking that without them we played you guys pretty tough in the 2nd half in alosing effort and Baltimore plays pretty well at home so we will hold them out and play with out them. This will allow them to heal for another two weeks (we play the Browns in between) so they will be 100% against you guys at home and Baltimore in Cincy as well. The way I see it is that if we beat the Texans without Schaub ( no given with their running game) we really don’t need to beat the Ravens or Steelers at all to get to 10 wins. If we can’t pull off a win against either the Steelers or Ravens we probably will get wiped out in the 1st WC game but, hey, thatis way ahead of where we thought we would be. If we can take advantage of a 5 picks in the first three round draft we should be legit contenders next year from the drop.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 16, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure

But, I also think my first love team (see posting name) has a pretty good chance of handing BAL a beatdown on Thanksgiving, and thereby giving the Steelers a little more room to control their own destiny.

Honestly, I don’t care who wins Bengals/Ravens= either way, one will lose, and I see positives in both scenarios. Plus, if Dalton can actually beat the Ravens, I will be happy for him…not even exactly sure why that is. Would love for them to split their games.

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by lottwasgangsta on Nov 16, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

So that is the 3rd Thanksgiving game this year?

Good, cause the Cowboys v Dolphins is not going to be a good game, but the Packers v Lions should be – 2 out of 3 isn’t bad.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It's ideal actually

Because three games is a bit much to watch when you are in theory supposed to be talking to family and friends, but two is doable; mostly.

And these are two excellent games. I am actually looking for Detroit to upset Green Bay. Also think the Giants might be able to pull of the same.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Nov 16, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

oops, reply fail see below...

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, especially because My wife and her family are Bolivian

she is a die hard Steelers fan, but doesn’t really watch anyone else – her family for the most part doesn’t get the whole football thing anyway – so trying to watch 3 games will get me a lot of looks – I usually try and disappear…

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

wait

you’re supposed to talk to family on Thanksgiving?

People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee

by stillergorillar on Nov 16, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Allegedly

And not only that, monosyllabic grunting, in SOME cultures, is not even classified as talking!

Alas…

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Nov 16, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

I have really dropped the ball for the last 38 years

People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee

by stillergorillar on Nov 17, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I am looking for that upset as well. Giants do have the right pieces to pull it off.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 16, 2011 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

I was one of the people that thought the game in Cincy was almost do or die,

simply because of the second-column. A loss would have put the Steelers at 0-3 in the division and the two other teams would have been undefeated. That would be pretty hard to bounce back from. Thankfully, they took care of business.

Nice recap.

by Anthony Defeo on Nov 16, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions  


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