Sunday Morning Sermon: Final Thoughts On Week 12 Steelers at Chiefs
It's time for the congregation to put its blinders on.
Nevermind the crowd. Don't worry about who they have under center. Pay no attention to what other teams did. Instead, focus on the task at hand; playing a bipolar team that lacks a true offensive identity.
It's certainly a winnable game, but The Church of the Latter Day Rooneys knows everyone remembers 2009. The phrase "Letdown Game" permeates the entire league. No one is immune.
- The real season for championship teams starts in Week 12. Six games against teams either playing for that ever-important home playoff game, or playing for contract extensions. It's a dangerous combination, particularly when no team is even remotely healthy; only relatively so.
- Kansas City can beat teams over .500 by 28 points, or they can lose to wannabes by 41. You have no idea which Kansas City team will show up tonight.
- Define Foundational Player: A guy who is five catches away from breaking a team record for his position, will likely not get that in this game because his highest and best use this week will be blocking instead of receiving, and when informed of his proximity to the record, wasn't even aware of it. That's Heath Miller.
- Tamba Hali is a game-changer, plain and simple. The focus must be on stopping him.
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- May this be the last game before the return of Brother LaMarr, and no one replaces him next week.
- May Brother Ben not sink to his competition, and have confidence that his running game can win this with his help.
- May Brother Legursky replace penalties and inconsistency oft seen at the left guard position this year with the quickness that has taken him from undrafted training camp pylon to starter.
- May The Church, its members and certainly, the Steelers, remember this has nothing to do with the Baltimore Ravens. Tough game lay in waiting, we must take care of business.
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May the defense come up big: I’d love to see 9 sacks (although I might have to wait till we play the 9ers for that) but INT’s and forced fumbles… yes; yes that is the goal.
May the stands be filled with black and gold.. Here we go!
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
Win the game and protect Ben.
I hope you’re right about getting Saunders more involved. Offensively, it doesn’t have to be pretty because the most important thing is to keep #7 out of trouble. If we don’t throw even a single deep pass, that’ll be fine with me.
I think it’s his time. They can play out of 2 TE tonight, and as long as they account for Hali, no one else there concerns me. Run the ball, but I think they can use Saunders on the goal line.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Amen
brothers and sisters, Amen.
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Nov 27, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions
brown
with the modified formation ben will be in and the focus on getting it out of his hand antonio brown should be in for a monster game. In the game against the pats the chiefs were pressuring brady and sacking him. but once he stopped holding the ball he ate them alive. hopefully ben can do that
That would require BB and BA to employ "lessons learned" from watching tape...
…and neither has shown a consistency with doing so, preferring to try to force their own pre-conceived game plans onto the actions of the opponent.
If I recall correctly, in 2009 KC stacked the box, a game plan the Browns emulated, both to the detriment of the Steelers.
I’m feelin a bit concerned about this game, in that it has the makings of a trap game; this year teams coming off the bye have not fared well, and the Steelers are notorious in both starting cold, and playing down.
Hopefully, with bellys full from TG, and bodies rested, we don’t start off cold and slow. Instead, (I hope) we come out blasting like we did against NE and take this game away from KC within the first quarter (and keep it away).
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Nov 27, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not too worried. The Steelers haven’t dropped a game to a weak opponent either this year or last.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
There are so many “knock on wood” comments on this article, I’m starting to worry…
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Got that right..
in ‘09 the Cheifs & Brown put 8 up in the box to stop the run, and the Steelers couldn’t adjust. If they do that this time, Mike Wallace may have 250 yrs receiving. The times, they are a-changin !
"Pitch me outside, I will hit .400. Pitch me inside, and you will not find the ball." - Roberto Clemente
It's always about the ravens...
Its obvious to any Steelers fan following the AFC playoff picture that the Ravens games are more important here on out than Steelers games. With the exception maybe of the Cincinatti game next week, none of the remaining Steelers games matter too much given our near certainty to make the playoffs as at least a wild card. The Steelers are about 93% likely to make the playoffs and 70% to be a wild card team according the mean of the projections from Accuscore, playoffstatus.com, and sportsclubstats.com. Nowhere to go but up and thats not going to happen without baltimore losing.
In poker terms, we call this a freeroll. We are going to the playoffs, we will be the 5th or possibly 6th seed unless Baltimore loses more games than we do. IF this happens, then we jump up THREE OR FOUR seeds in the AFC Playoffs. This is absolutely huge and this should be more important than the steelers beating the lowly Cheifs to maintain status quo at the 5th seed. We. need. baltimore. to. lose. Period.
However, I appreciate your sermon and your passion. Nice post.
With that kind of thinking...the hell of 2009 will be unleashed again...
…the Steelers (and Steeler Nation) need to take care of their own business. Our fate is solely in our own hands. We relegated ourselves to Wildcard status by losing to the Ratbirds twice (a “sweep” in Skev’s parlance) and the Texans.
The Ravens’ games are immaterial to the Steelers; they can easily lose even a Wildcard if they don’t tend to their own games. If they win out, then a playoff position is highly likely regardless of what the Ratbirds do, but if they lose games,
We are going to the playoffs, we will be the 5th or possibly 6th seedbecomes increasingly unlikely. How does anything the Ravens do affect that?
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Nov 27, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I wrote what I wrote specifically to go against this line of thinking.
Lot of games left for both teams. I’d go as far as saying I don’t think either of them will win out. Things change quite a bit in this league week-to-week. Hell, Cleveland’s a lot better than we like to believe. Let Baltimore worry about Baltimore.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re a football fan, you see the big picture, and discuss the particulars and minutia of the race to the playoffs. That included the Ravens and what they do. Some people simply want a home playoff game, instead of having to travel. Seeing how the steelers haven’t won against a quality opponent in a road game, talking about what the ravens do is part of that discussion.
Calling fans misguided because they talk about a division rival and what they do is completely inappropriate and unfair. I do however agree that there is a lot of football left. Anything can happen.
I didn’t call anyone misguided. I understand their reasoning, but worrying about a home playoff game right now is presumptuous, in my opinion (Cincinnati’s a “quality” team, by the way). We haven’t won anything yet. I feel strongly if we win out, we’ll win the division. I also think that will be extremely difficult to do, and simply hope the Steelers are focused on playing the Chiefs, and not worried about what Baltimore is doing. Control what you can control, that’s all I’m saying.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I know
Somewhere here somebody said “misguided” in referring to fans for simply for discussing possibilities. The steelers are the athletes playing, not the fans, so I certainly hope they’ve mentally prepared for this game. We are just fans hoping for the best for our team. That’s all.
Yeah, cincy’s a quality team, and I think there are a couple of possible speed bumps that can turn into a wreck – San Fran being one of them – and the browns being the other. The niners will have the benefit of brother’s knowledge, and it would be naive to think he won’t be sharing info. Even though cincy’s a home game, it might also be a problem.
The ravens on the other hand, won’t win out either, imo, but the fact that a tie with them won’t do us any good. As long as the Steelers are playing their best football for the playoffs, I don’t care where they play.
In poker terms, we call this a freeroll. We are going to the playoffs, we will be the 5th or possibly 6th seed unless Baltimore loses more games than we do. IF this happens, then we jump up THREE OR FOUR seeds in the AFC Playoffs. This is absolutely huge and this should be more important than the steelers beating the lowly Cheifs to maintain status quo at the 5th seed. We. need. baltimore. to. lose. Period.
You realize if Pittsburgh loses tonight, Baltimore’s up a full game plus a tiebreaker, right? That means they have to lose two more games. It’s ridiculous to suggest Baltimore losing is more important than Pittsburgh winning. That is NEVER true.
It says nothing of the fact that Baltimore has already won this week, so if we really do care about something more than this game, we should remember we fall a long ways out if we lose.
You don’t get in the playoffs with seven wins, so until they clinch a wild card spot and have a game against Baltimore, I don’t care what the Ravens do. We had our chance to be in the driver’s seat, and we didn’t get it done.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Our "fate"
is absolutely not in our own hands unless we absolutely blow it and lose 3 or 4 more games. The only way we don’t finish 5th or 6th is if the ravens lose another game. Period. We will be the wild card team otherwise. We all know that we won’t lose 3 or 4 more games to awful teams. We know this, you know this. Let’s keep watching the Ravens as intently as we watch the Steelers…
Just like we wouldn't lose 5 in a row in 2009...
…What the Ravens do is immaterial. We consigned ourselves to the wildcard route by losing to them twice, and, given the number of teams with the same record as us, all we can and should worry about is taking each game one at a time, and NEVER looking past the current opponent.
KC – a trap game if there ever was one
Cincy – against a team that played us tough, w/o their best receiver for most of the game
SF – only let the Ratbirds score 16 points; better performance against them than we had
Cleveland (2x) – a team with nothing to lose, no expectations, and every incentive to play the spoiler.
With that facing us, you want us to care about what the Ravens do?
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
I really walked into this, didn't I?
The last three things I’ve written have either been hijacked by a Ravens fan talking about the Ravens, hijacked by Steelers fans talking about the Ravens, or both at the same time.
Planned all week to lead with something alluding to “no sense in worrying about the Ravens.” Looks like I merely poked the bear.
Well, feel free to comment on the game we’re playing and not on the team watching at home if you’d like. If not, oh well.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
No, keep writing what you have been...
…I (and I’m sure most of Steeler Nation) agrees with your perspective. I’ll just keep being me and tilting at skewed windmills and misguide fans.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
I was agreeing with you, particularly with Cleveland. Worried about that team. Late in the year, those are really tough games.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I know you were...
…my post doesn’t read well, my keybord is crapping out.
The Ravens shouldn’t exist in our collective sense of the remaining season. We’re not competing with them for the division; its theirs to lose. We have to take care of business and worry about (cliche alert) “one game at a time”
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
+1
We’re not competing with them for the division; its theirs to lose. We have to take care of business and worry about (cliche alert) "one game at a time"
Damn right! I’m fine with that. Guaranteed, that’s what Tomlin’s been preaching all week.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Tyler Palko was the QB at Pittsburgh who the coaches thought was the better option than Flacco and forced Flacco to transfer to Delaware.
Can’t wait to see what he has tonight, over/under set at 4 turnovers from Palko.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Breaking news!
You’re about four years late on that story, pal
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve known about that situation since we drafted Joe. It was just more of a general statement being made and reminding everyone the crap QB you play tonight. Don’t get in a twat now.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
We appreciate your reminder. Feel free to let us know that Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick too. Haven’t heard that lately.
I’m not sure if you know what a “twat” is, junior, but let’s not use that word, please.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Bad mood today buddy?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
FAIR ENOUGH
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
p.s.
Can’t wait to see what he has tonight, over/under set at 4 turnovers from Palko.
You forget, we don’t force turnovers.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Its a while for once for amaurotic rodents...
…to locate tree kernals
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
This guy managed to give the Patriots (worst defense in the league) 3 interceptions last week and put up only 3 points. I think 4 is definitely possible once Harrison gets to him.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I thought that about Indy…and Seattle…and Jacksonville…and you guys…and New England…It’s a mental block, their defensive backs can’t catch the ball, and the pass rush isn’t all that great without Woodley in there.
Frankly, if Worilds doesn’t whip his assignment today (one of the worst in football) I’ll be upset. I mean, no team gets NINE sacks, but five is pretty good…ahem…
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, no team gets NINE sacks
Would be insane if a team got 9 sacks in a game this year….
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I knew exactly what you were saying, just playing off of it a bit.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I know
I lobbed you a softball in a peacekeeping effort.
And I just watched a biography on the making of Ferris Beuhler’s Day off. It fits pretty nicely, if I do say so myself.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
“Les jeux sont faits. Translation, the game is up, your ass is mine. "
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
French men are narcissists
Translation:
Any wanker who quotes French on a football forum needs beaten roundly and booted from the conversation.
It is a quote from Ferris Buehler.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
And a good one at that!
Never seen the French translation.
“What’s the score?”
“Nuthin’-nuthin’”
“Who’s winning?”
“…….The Bears.”
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
that's because Tyler Palko is a better quarterback than Flacco.
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Who the hell's interrupting my Kung Fu? - Black Dynamite
With two D's, for a double dose of this pimpin'
So like, good morning
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
He played out of position much of the year. While that makes up for some of it, he could stand to make a few more plays, inside or out.
Could say that about several Steelers defensive players right now…
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno about that
He’s been pretty good
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Thinking about Ike Taylor
:p
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Understand but when he was outside he was lost
That suprised me, was looking forward to seeing him use his speed. Just really non exixstent and to your point, maybe it’s shuffling all over. The oline seems to be getting stable, now need that LB corp to get stabel for the playoff push.
Well, if they played Casey Hampton outside, he’d look lost too. That’s not his primary job. Someone had to fill in.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
That's been the case all year
We’ve been getting banged up
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Which is why we should be excited moving into the “real” season (Week 12 and beyond). We haven’t had two of our best defensive players together for a full game since Week 3. They get healthy, we’ve got an immediate in-season upgrade. Not many teams have had that many injuries from which players will return.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
but he played outside in college so I expected more
My expectations from my couch are so hard to meet!
Apparently
Ha!
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Reno
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
noticed Giants, Sharks and Stanford
I’m in the Bay Area but don’t follow any of the teams here
Yep
Love my teams. :]
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
He played like 12 games in two seasons at FSU and that was what, five years ago? I’m surprised he’d even remember where the stadium was.
Look back at PZB before Timmons’ first start at OLB. I was excited at the possibility of him being out there. I saw him rush the passer once, and remembered he’s about 235 lbs. Harrison makes it work at that weight cuz like he’s like 5-foot-9, and stronger than granite.
If he can cover here and there along with trail the run and make plays, I’m very happy with Timmons, regardless of his contract. He could stand to do that a few times though…been a bit too infrequent for me.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Outside
in a 4-3, completely different system.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Nov 27, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts on next yrs LB corp?
I don’t see Potsie back
Seeing the way Sylvester played, I don’t think you can even consider Farrior not being on the roster next year. There really isn’t anyone else. They’ll likely spend a pick on that position toward the top of the draft, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they looked at a vet or two.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hightower
could start day 1, just saying :)
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Nov 27, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
All yr long I've been saying why not more SLY?
Than when he got in I saw him get pushed around and less than effective and realized…the coaches know more than I. As much as I dont want to believe that. maybe Farrior is back but not at his current price. He and Larry cost about $8m between them and that’s too damn high for aging, slower LB’s.
lol Yeah, I remember his first play, I literally said, “ohhhhh….k….” Next play, I sort of threw my towel to the side. It went downhill from there.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Then he was benched midway through the third series
I don’t like his chances of making the squad next year.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 27, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
When VY is picking apart your secondary...
you’ve got problems
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by stillergorillar on Nov 27, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
which makes palko
play last week even more disturbing.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
I hope the Steelers have it wrapped up by halftime
because I have a very, very, very early flight on Monday. Ugh.

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