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Ndamukong Suh Gets Two Game Suspension

Fox Sports' Jay Glazer is reporting Lions DT Ndamukong Suh has received a two game suspension as a result of Suh stomping on Packers OL Evan Dietrich-Smith's arm in Green Bay's win over Detroit on Thanksgiving.

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The suspension is expected, considering the severity of the act. The league, under Commissioner Roger Goodell, has not suspended a player for on-field conduct more than the five games then-Titans DT Albert Haynesworth was suspended for, incidentally, stomping on an offensive lineman (then Cowboys C Andre Gurode). 

Lions head coach Jim Schwartz was Tennessee's defensive coordinator when Haynesworth was suspended. 

CNBC's Darren Rovell is reporting the two-game suspension will cost him $164,000.

Suh's suspension for the act itself is justified. His antics on the sideline after he was flagged and ejected for the stomp, as well as his comments immediately following the game make it clear and obvious a suspension was warranted. He questioned the decision of the official to eject him, something very few - if any - would agree with him on. He took it to the media after the game, stating he isn't a dirty player and tried to sell the public on the idea he didn't stop Deitrich-Smith, but was merely trying to regain his balance. In his initial comments to the media, he only apologized to his teammates for "allowing the refs to have an opportunity to take me out of the game."

Not even the Lions bought that excuse. A statement from the team not long after the game read: 

"The on-field conduct exhibited by Ndamukong Suh that led to his ejection from yesterday's game was unacceptable and failed to meet the high level of sportsmanship we expect from our players," the team said. "Ndamukong has made many positive contributions to the Lions on and off the field. We expect his behavior going forward to consistently reflect that high standard of professionalism."

Conveniently, not long after that message, Suh wrote a public apology on his Facebook page. 

While many are against the strict regulation Goodell has enforced on the game over the past few seasons, this particular act seemed a no-brainer. 

Suh has been fined multiple times this year already for a series of late and illegal hits, 

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Suh, a repeat offender this season, warrant less than the 5 games Haynesworth got for his first offense?

by Larrybob8187 on Nov 29, 2011 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

He stomped on his arm and not his helmetless head?

Haynesworth’s stomp was A LOT worse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5nlEA8BUTQ

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by John Stephens on Nov 29, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

and we’ll check back with you for your reaction when jimmy h is sidelined for a few games after he destroys someone

by klompus on Nov 29, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Klompus,

is that meant for me or John?

by Larrybob8187 on Nov 29, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

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by alfresco on Nov 29, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s not really meant for any one person in particular, just a sentiment that anyone who thinks two games is not enough should wait before being so critical.

the seasons not over yet and james harrison could easily end up in a situation that causes him to get suspended for more than 2 games — at which point Im sure Steelers fans would be glad that the type of suspension wouldn’t be 4-6 games +. i mean jimminy crickets i saw a writer say that suh should be suspended for the rest of the year?

by klompus on Nov 30, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Young and hot headed

Just like a certain Hall of Famer was when he started the winning attitude for the Steelers back in ’69.

by Bradhaw's index finger on Nov 29, 2011 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

He did earn the title Mean...

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 29, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

And there was no suspension for Mean Joe

…and he was worse. He was kicked out of multiple games his rookie year, once for clearly kicking Jim Vellone of the Vikings square in the balls.

I’m just glad, contrary to the prediction of John Clayton, that there doesn’t seem to be any provision for Anger Management for Suh, who’s had zero off-field issues. What about a suspension and anger management for the Green Bay linebacker who spend the weekend on ice after being arrested for domestic battery.

by swissvale72 on Nov 29, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Times were different back then - the game has changed a lot since the 70's

but I do not understand stuff like you are referencing or the fact that Edelman received no reprimand whatsoever for his public assault (he grabbed a girl by the crotch on Halloween and got arrested) or how Cedric Benson who is a multiple offender gets a one game suspension for something he actually served jail time for.

The only thing that has been consistent during the new regime has been inconsistency.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 29, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I just realized

Santonio Holmes – 4 games, for smoking a recreational drug
Ben Roethlisberger – 4 games, accusations with no proof
Ndamukong Suh – 2 games, attempting to injure another player by stomping on his arm (coming after several “dirty” play infractions this season)

As always, thanks for being inconsistent and irrational Goodell

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by John Stephens on Nov 29, 2011 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks

for reiterating my point. How is this JUST a 2-game suspension? Oh yeah, they are in a playoff hunt and their colors aren’t black and gold.

by Larrybob8187 on Nov 29, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

That list can be extended to included a number of other players that were not suspended for infractions that are definitely a violation of the conduct policy – keeping with the irrational, and I’ll even go as far as saying, biased and one sided.

by IronJake on Nov 29, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

"attempting to injure another player"?

trust me, if Suh had intended to injure anybody, that player would indeed be injured.

The guy was grabbing him and I’m quite sure if we look at the game film Suh had taken his share of cheap shots from that packer before he lost his temper.

This thing is being blown WAY out of proportion. If Suh wanted to hurt the guy instead of just kicking him a little for not letting him go then he had plenty of better options for stomping then his arm.

by lkwdsteel on Nov 29, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess we should just allow players to stomp on one another as long as they don’t injure the other guy, right?

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by John Stephens on Nov 30, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah... 2 GAMES?

Really? I cannot stand the inconsistency. That was WAY worse that other offenses that have drawn suspensions for more games.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 29, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

player’s dont often get suspended for their on the field antics… albert hayneworth stompin out andre got 5 games and the guy required 30 sitches in what was a way more clear and vicious act… helmetless player vs arm stomp? 2 games seems to fit pretty well to me

by klompus on Nov 29, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Goodell

Should also have taken into account that Suh’s stomp could’ve easily been to the throat/chest/or any other body part of that OL. He wasn’t even looking when he stomped. Could’ve been a lot worse. If that had been his throat and not his arm, he would easily be looking at 5 games, maybe more. I still think he should’ve gotten more than 2 though, even if it was only his arm. Player safety?

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by WVSteel6SB on Nov 29, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed, much more about the act than the part of the body

He deliberately stomped on a downed opponent, does the where really matter? If there is anything to take into consideration on the where it is this: The player had no protective gear in the area where the stomp occurred.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 29, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Being from Detroit and perhaps BTSC's resident Lions fanboy

There’s a couple things worth considering here. I’m not saying this stuff excuses either Suh or Goodell for some bogus shit going on, but we should keep these things in mind.

Yes, the inconsistency is infuriating, though I think the weaker punishments for guys like Cedric Benson (who were actually charged with crimes and punished) are more egregious and worthy of anger than Suh v. Ben, just because Suh’s stuff has been entirely on the football field. They’re different categories… though it’s still pretty sketchy.

The second thing to remember is that the league wants Suh to be a face of the NFL kind of guy, perhaps the league’s defensive face – they’ve got a ton of quarterbacks, dumping Ben from that category isn’t a huge loss because they have a ton of other options for quarterbacks and Pittsburgh itself. Suh really is the Lions – Stafford and Megatron are far too laid back to really be the symbol of the team, and the city.

Suh has been a model citizen off the field. He came into one of the worst situations in both football and the country and has been an example. He’s doing incredible things for the community and for the team. By all accounts he is also a really, really great guy off the field. I remember reading a story where he was signing autographs for some fans and this high school player was telling Suh about a big game he had coming up. Suh actually shows up for the game, watches it, and, if I recall, bought a ton of the people in the stands concessions. He does that kind of stuff pretty consistently, and the league wants to eat it up. They don’t want to turn him into a villain too fast, because he could be really great press for them, so they’re going to come down lighter.

Let me be clear – Suh has always rode the edge of going to far on the field, and this time he stepped over it, and he deserved to be punished. His post-game rant was immature, but I think it mostly just came from frustration and I think his apology the next day was honest and came after he had cooled down, reflected, and talked to the Lions organization about it. Still, it is worth noting examining the play again.

Suh and Deitrich-Smith go to the ground. They’re scrapping a little bit on the ground and Suh pushes on his head a few times, then tries to get up – at this point you can just make out Deitrich-Smith’s arm coming up as Suh get’s up – he’s clearly been holding on to Suh, which is itself not good. Suh is trying to free himself, Scott Wells starts trying to separate them peacefully. Then number 70, T.J. Lang, charges and knocks Suh back (whose feet are still entangled on the ground with Dietrich-Smith) into number 74, Marshall Newhouse, who lightly puts his hands on Suh (I think partly as a reaction to getting Suh knocked into him and because he’s seen some scrapping going on and wants to end it – perfectly acceptable. At this point, though, Suh’s feet are wrapped up in one Packer, he’s just been shoulder-charged by another, and two more Packers have their hands on him. I really saw this as Suh trying to free himself at the feet from Deitrich-Smith and lashing out unconsciously because he thought – incorrectly, except for the Lang hit – that he himself was under attack. Stupid move, and he needs to keep a clearer head, but this is football and these are offensive and defensive linemen. People seem to ignore that the tempers down in the trenches are higher, and these guys are chopping and slapping and basically assaulting each other on each and every play, and I don’t even want to know what goes on during scrums for fumbles – the stories of these guys biting each other and going for each other’s balls are far too common.

The point is, what would have been a pretty standard post-play scrum we all would have forgotten about two seconds later went a bit too far, and Suh kicked out in frustration. He got ejected, gave up a first down on what would have been a stop, the Packers scored and the rout was on in the biggest game of the year, and now he has a two-game suspension. That seems like pretty fair punishment for a bone-headed move which caused no harm to anyone. If Suh had continued going after any of the Packers and further escalating into a full-blown fight, I can see more than two games, but two games is a LOT, especially for a team in playoff contention near the end of the season.

by JDSpartan on Nov 29, 2011 1:46 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

pretty much my opinion on the entire thing. people thinking 2 games isn’t enough is looking at the situation in an entirely too black and white manner. we see the hd slow mo of feet coming down on an arm and thats all the people want to react to.

by klompus on Nov 29, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Slow mo??

Hell, I saw it as it happened, you don’t need hi def or slow mo for that. C’mon.

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by Fifty-Eight on Nov 30, 2011 6:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

just difference in opinion comrade, i know things can happen quickly in a fight, which is what it’s like every down in the trenches

by klompus on Nov 30, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

hell I like having a DT that has an attitude

plus Suh seems like he’s got his act together off the field. Fat albert was a nightmare on and off the field when he got his suspension.

2 games is 2 too many in my opinion. Good lord they’re turning this sport into a league of pansies. Joe Greene would have been run out of the league before his 3rd year today.

by lkwdsteel on Nov 29, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like the back of Elton John's tour bus
the stories of these guys biting each other and going for each other’s balls are far too common

Bound to cover just a little more ground.

by Steeliver on Nov 29, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry.

Way too long of an argument that reeks of making an excuse for the guy.

He was a hotheaded idiot. He didn’t own up to it and bald-face lied to everyone afterward, even bringing God into it.

Dude deserves more just for being a douche. sorry.

If I bought a bunch of people hot digs and cokes at a football game a couple times, then expected that to be a character argument after I rammed a co-workers face through a window and then lied about it to my superiors as they showed me the security camera tape… Yeah. Don’t think it would fly.

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by Fifty-Eight on Nov 30, 2011 6:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

fair...

Good post Spartan, I truly believe Suh gets it now. Will he have another incident? Probably, he’s a crazy beast. Any one of us Steeler fans would love to have him with Tomlin coaching him. This punishment lays a good foundation and start. IMO

by sweedemotions on Nov 29, 2011 3:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Also, I imagine plenty of teams are going to go after Suh now

With cheaps shots and cut blocks, in the hopes of getting him pissed off so he gets flagged/removed

by JDSpartan on Nov 29, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

this

is an excellent point. One that I’d hope (in vain) that Goodell would look into before the appeal. Look over the game film and see what the other A-hole was doing to tick him off in the first place. If he was doing some nasty stuff, then suspend them both or don’t suspend either.

by lkwdsteel on Nov 29, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Spartan...

Good post on the off-field stuff, which is EXACTLY why I was infuriated with the talk of requiring him to enroll in Anger Management while the NFL does nothing about batterers and the like. Suh is clearly able to channel his anger toward the one place in society where it’s not only acceptable but encourged. He’s doing it how it’s supposed to be done…..just a bit excessively this time. And….for the record…..most of his other supposed transgressions…..were absolutely bogus calls. Wish we had him.

by swissvale72 on Nov 29, 2011 3:49 PM EST reply actions  


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