More than a fluke loss
by rjschaffer on Nov 7, 2011 9:32 PM EST
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The defense though is one of the more troubling issues on this team. The freefall that the defense had this week was greater than what Bryant McFadden has had all year. How do you go from dominating the Pats and Brady on every level to simply folding against a below average quarterback in Flacco? Coaching that's how. Go back and watch highlights or what not and you can see that the corners played at least 5 yards off on every single play. I'm no John Madden but I think any Henne or Edwards out there can complete a pass to a receiver that has nobody 5 yards around them. If you leave a receiver that much space then all you have to do is simply throw it to the guy and let him pick up an easy 5. The defense never adjusted to it. But this isn't a new problem this is just the same formula that it takes to beat the Steelers the past few years. Whether it falls on Tomlin, Lebeau, or Farrior (now Foote) is beyond me but one of them needs to recognize that.
The last glaring issue is the goal line problem. Obama has a better chance of being reelected than the Steelers have of scoring on the goal line. Now it wasn't much of a problem in the Ravens game but it has been a glaring problem all year. A high school team can score on the Seahawks but not Rashard Mendenhall. There are only so many chances a team can get to put the ball in the end zone and coming away with three is simply not a good answer. On the other side of the ball the defense seems intent on shooting themselves in the foot. The goal line stand was impressive but a team is only going to stop that so many times as evident by Ray Rice basically walking into the end zone. Ball games are won at the line of scrimmage and so far the Steelers aren't winning many battles. It truly is a miracle that they have 6 wins based on the putrid football they've played week in and week out.
Now I can't bash the whole team. Ben is playing out of his mind and Antonio Brown looks like the next Marvin Harrison (jokes, jokes, jokes...?). Harrison and Woodley are hands down the best outside linebackers in the league I don't know how that can be disputed. The offensive line has improved by miles and Isaac Redman continues to impress in short yardage. Cam Heyward looks like the next great lineman for the Steelers and Ziggy Hood is already there. But if this team is going to go anywhere this season they need to take a long hard look at the tape. After all Baltimore doesn't seem like being at the kids table anymore.
A Few Good Notes
1. Bryant McFadden is that you??
2. It's a shame Polamalu's car broke down on the way to the game. Really seemed like he could have made an impact.
3. Max Starks: 2011 Steelers MVP
4. William Gay and Shaun Suisham are in a close race for LVP.
5. Antonio please stop dancing around on punt returns and just run straight damnit.
Something To Think About
At this point in the season who should the Steelers be thinking about drafting: offensive line or corner? After Max Starks was brought in it seems like corner is now by far the most glaring need. But that's up for debate like everything else so take it away.
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How do you go from dominating the Pats and Brady on every level to simply folding against a below average quarterback in Flacco?
Shaking my damn head…
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
His QB rating is 76.9
which is below the league average. And he only has 9 touchdowns to 6 interceptions. He is not a good quarterback in any way, shape, or form.
Not to mention he has a completion percentage of around 55% and only 6.6 yards per throw.
Guess you missed the last 3 minutes of the game last night. All good though, I’ve come to notice that nothing is impressive to Steeler fans unless their team does it.
I actually enjoy it more knowing that you saw a “below average” Quarterback put you guys to night night with your thumbs in your mouths.
Below average QB’s don’t do what Joe did last night. Time to start getting real Steeler fans, Joe is a top 10 QB, deal with it.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 7, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But I don’t really care anymore. I know what happened last night. Got nothing to prove to you at this time. Say whatever you guys want.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
You guys earned a great and well-deserved victory.
And Flacco played as well as I’ve ever seen him play on the game-winning drive. Congratulations and we’ll see you in the playoffs!
Thanks Billy. Comments like that are what hold me back from throwing personal attacks at your fanbase. Classy stuff.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 7, 2011 11:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well..by your estimation
Matt Moore is an elite QB right? I mean, he did have a good game once…right?
are you seriously dumb enough to put Flacco in the same category as Brady?
Sorry…1 game…as nice as it was, still doesn’t make him better than Dirty Sanchez..
Even Dirty Sanchez has pulled off wins against good teams in crunch time, once or twice…
It could be the start of a trend…but, it needs to be proven. Of course he’s had good games here and there. He still had that Jags game this year, that Titans game this year…
the list goes on and on.
And please, go with the personal insults, i enjoy them.
I just hope you can make them good, but i’m betting you can’t
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Yup, that was Flacco’s first good game this year. Did you miss week 1 as well? 3 TD’s is pretty good isn’t it?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
so...one time..he throws 3 touchdowns...i guess that makes him the next Joe Montana...
i guess after years of being a goat, anything will get your hopes up…
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He threw for 3 TD’s in the first matchup in a murderous performance by the entire team against you guys, then threw for 300 yards and had 12 3rd down passing conversions (14 total, most ever in the last 60 years against you guys) and that beautiful, BEAUTIFUL game winning drive that sent your Steeler fans home crying in their terrible towels and people like you sitting there with your hands on your chin wondering “Did Flacco just dominate us? Wow”
Coming into this year, allllllllllllllllll I heard from you Steeler fans was how Joe can’t beat Ben, he just can’t beat Ben and can’t out perform Ben to win a Steelers Ravens game. Now that he has done it TWICE this season, he has somehow dropped to one being one of the worst QB’s in the league and one of the worst to ever play the game.
You go girl.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 8, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Well..maybe people said that
I certainly didn’t
He isn’t the worst to ever play the game, but finally having multiple decent games in a year, in his fourth year, doesn’t really make him elite, even with your homerism
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but finally having multiple decent games in a year, in his fourth year, doesn’t really make him elite
He has had plenty of good games in his career, very good ones actually. And I never said he was elite, I said that he was a top 10 QB, and that he certainly isn’t a below average QB.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
It was his 3rd down converstions
If his receivers had held onto the ball a few more times he would have looked even better. I am not a Flacco fan but I thought he showed up and manned up in this game. Key plays when they are needed is a quality of Ben’s that endears his to Steelers fans. I saw Joe doing that this time.
I may mock his eyebrows but I think he can hold his head high for this performance.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
No, I do not have to come here and brag. But if a Steeler fan is going to talk bad about my QB without any support to back it up, I am going to let them have it.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
And honestly, I don’t like bragging about the wins. I like bragging about my QB, but not the wins. This is a crazy league and we could flop the next 3 games and you guys could be right back in it, which already happened once this season.
I am well aware of what the Steelers accomplished the last 3 years, and did so by beating the Ravens in convincing fashion. The last thing I want is to look like an ass to a handful of people here who I think are pretty cool guys and legit know their shit.
But guys like FrankWyt and the Riddlah kid, they don’t even consider using logic, and I am not about to hear some bullshit opinion about Flacco when there is proof otherwise.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
agree Mr. MaLor
Flacco is truely developing and I dont think you can say otherwise. I think even next year with with a year under Torrey Smith’s belt and getting Evans back he is going to be even better. Heck, sooner than that once Evans is healthy again. Hate to say being a steeler fan, but it is what is is.
“…that beautiful, BEAUTIFUL game winning drive that sent your Steeler fans home crying in their terrible towels and people like you sitting there with your hands on your chin wondering "Did Flacco just dominate us? Wow"”
Then stick with the numbers and your argument. The quoted statement is just bragging and shoving it in our faces.
I don’t go to your teams website and taunt your fans.
I never go to their website
Ever. I just don’t care enough about them.
One of the great disappointments of a football game is that the cheerleaders never seem to get injured.
It’s lame & barely has any population, & even then they usually argue amongst themselves. Before the cards game they were ready to run Joe out of town, afterward some were actually saying he is better than Brady.
The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010
Actually it does seem underpopulated
with a few exceptions plus they have one of the most annoying fans there that I have ever encountered. I won’t name names but he does drive off fans of any other team who drop in to try for intelligent conversation.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
It's because they seem to be here on our site
I wish they’d go to their own site where they belong instead of hanging out here.
One of the great disappointments of a football game is that the cheerleaders never seem to get injured.
It smells over here, I’m surprised Malor hangs around over here for that matter.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
And yet, here you are
Hanging out, just like malor and the rest.
One of the great disappointments of a football game is that the cheerleaders never seem to get injured.
Yeah, I have a cold though, so I can’t smell you right now.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, really
Go back to your own blog. You know… BB.
One of the great disappointments of a football game is that the cheerleaders never seem to get injured.
Weak! You can’t bash our team since we swept you guys so now you gotta bash our site and fans. tsk tsk tsk
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
I can bash your team
I’ve been a fan since the early 70’s when your team was the Browns. I have seen the Steelers on top, and in the basement of the league.
I am not upset about Sunday’s game. You won the games, no big deal. But I have always disliked the Ravens because the Coach and the Players whine like 4 year old girls. They also do ticky tacky stuff after a play ends, chippy stuff, they have to say something after every play, push someone after every play.
So no, I don’t like the Ravens. And it isn’t because you beat us. That is actually not that big a deal to me.
I come to this blog to interact with Steeler fans. I don’t personally care what you think of the Steelers, of me personally, or of any other Steeler fan. I just think you have a home, and this blog is not your home.
Feel free to agree or disagree with me. I’m ok with that.
One of the great disappointments of a football game is that the cheerleaders never seem to get injured.
Again
reading comprehention, where did he bash the site or the fans?
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by stillergorillar on Nov 9, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
No support to back it up? How about Flaccids overall performance this season, which he provided in support:
His QB rating is 76.9, which is below the league average. And he only has 9 touchdowns to 6 interceptions. He is not a good quarterback in any way, shape, or form.
Not to mention he has a completion percentage of around 55% and only 6.6 yards per throw.
Face it Malor, he came into the game with a QB rating of 75.4, while Tebows was at 75.1. Tebow also had a far more impressive showing in putting up multiple scores to win a game in the last 5 minutes, so according to your judgement that means Tebow is also a top 10 QB lol.
Flacco is an average QB having a mediocre year, the stats don’t lie.
The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010
Face it Malor, he came into the game with a QB rating of 75.4, while Tebows was at 75.1. Tebow also had a far more impressive showing in putting up multiple scores to win a game in the last 5 minutes, so according to your judgement that means Tebow is also a top 10 QB lol.
So 2 games total should be counted? Tebow has played against the worst teams in the league and has been crap for 55 minutes in each. I’m not going to look up stats, but I’m almost sure he has the same rushing yards as passing yards right now and is averaging like 150 yards a game. Tebow couldn’t pay to hold Joe’s jockstrap.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
No one here is seriously comparing Flacco to Tebow
There may be some teasing going on but I would be shocked that anyone here would seriously put Joe and Tebow in the same category.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Malaki has brought it up repeatedly, so I take that as him being serious about it since he uses it to try and prove his point.
Though, this is also the same guy that takes Hillis’ opinion seriously when the guy has been proven to be a phony, quack, loser that his own crappy team hates. I don’t think anyone should take Malaki or whyt seriously
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
maybe not Teblow
but definitely Dirty Sanchez…..
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GIMME FOOD GIMME FRIES GIMME SAMMICH ON THE SIDE - James Hetfield
That loser ran through your D last year like it was a troop of boy scouts.
I don’t care if you take me seriously, but QB ratings are not opinion. Tebow is a HORRIBLE QB & his rating of 75.1 bears that out. Flaccos was at 75.4 going into this game. Considering how close their ratings are to each other I think that says a lot about Flacco.
The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010
That loser ran through your D last year like it was a troop of boy scouts.
He ran through alot of defenses like they were a troop of boy scouts. What happened in the 2nd meeting? He had about 30 yards rushing.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
what's flacco's career QB Rating?
he has had some rough games this year. The QB rating evidences that. But looking at his NFL career as a whole, his numbers are EXCELLENT for a 4th year guy. Add to that the incredible clutch and poise he displayed last weekend and I think it’s pretty hard to call him average.
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
"Did Flacco just dominate us? Wow" I wouldn’t call that performance domination. Domination would be throwing 4-5 TD’s. You cant dominate by only winning by 3 in the last seconds of a game.
So 12 3rd down conversions doesn’t count as dominating? Sweeping you guys doesn’t count as dominating? 300 yards against the best pass defenses in the league isn’t dominating?
Hell, Had Torrey Smith not been flagged on that opening play and had he caught all the balls, the score would have looked more like week 1. That is domination…
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn't a dominating performance by Baltimore
but it was a good performance.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
It was a good game and the Steelers did very well. I’m just saying that if Torrey caught all the passes he had hit his hands and not been flagged on that first play, you are looking at 2 more TDs, which puts this score far out of reach.
Also if Torrey catches those passes, Flacco is much much much closer to 400yds passing than not. 400yds, 2 TDs and a last second winning 92 yard drive is pretty dominating imo. Not saying it wants a close game, but Joe was damn good all game long.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
not on
1st and 2nd down. He was amazing on 3rd however
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by stillergorillar on Nov 9, 2011 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
If the refs call the PI on Brown or Cotchery, the h2h hit on ward, & Bolding pushing off on Taylor rather than calling Taylor for slapping his hand away you lose by 14.
Your front 7 got dominated. Joe was good all game? The only thing Flacco does consistently is be inconsistent.
The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010
If the refs call the PI on Brown or Cotchery, the h2h hit on ward, & Bolding pushing off on Taylor rather than calling Taylor for slapping his hand away you lose by 14.
If the refs don’t call that horrific holding on the first play or don’t blow an early whistle on the goal line, you lose by 14.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Take the purple glasses off
It was holding.
early whistle? Are you serious? If they hadn’t blown the whistle and he fumbled the ball you’d be screaming it wasn’t early enough. His forward progress was stopped. Period.
there were FAR more bad calls against the steelers than even your two stupid wrong examples. They extended your drives and allowed you to score, while preventing the steelers from scoring.
I really hope to hell we see you a third time to crush your sorry ass misplaced confidence.
wake up Frank
As much as you hate Joe Flacco, he is developing and is turning out to be a top QB this season. I cant stand him or the Raisens either, but you have to admit he is making great passes, and putting the ball where it needs to be for the receiver to make a catch. I have watched numerous games this year, and there is no doubt he is a different qb, and he is much better than he was last year and years past. Joe Montana wasnt a 3000 yard passer his first couple years, and look how much Terry Bradshaw struggled his first couple years.
Lets look at how many times Ben has underthrown or overthrown his receivers too. He underthrows Wallace fairly often. He did in the Baltimore game at least once that I remember, it was a sideline throw that Wallace end up juggling becasue the defender pulled it out, Wallace had to slow down for the throw allowing the defender to catch him. Ben throws that where it needs to be and its a touch down.
I don't hate him
i just don’t think he’s quite elite level yet. He is, as you said, making some great passes. He has grown a lot, and is on his way to possibly being great.
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still between 50 and 60%...still Joe
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you think Flacco "won you the game" in week one?
i can assure you, it certainly wasn’t the 7 turnovers…that had nothing to do with it.
Flacco is more Jags than Sunday vs the Steelers
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Would you say that 117.6 QB rating didn’t help contribute to the win? Your right, it was a great TEAM victory, and Joe was a major, major part of that.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
55%....
short fields all day…
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I’ll freaking take it.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
as soon as Joey
loses another game they’ll be calling for his head again in Baltimore….SMDH!
BTW…who’s your backup QB???
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Nov 8, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Tyrod Taylor
Some think he’s the future. He’s no Troy Smith, but BB’ers love him
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Mr. Malor
Please don’t feed the Troll!!! Yes a website can have a troll that is of their own fanbase. Learn something new every day!
by steeler fever on Nov 8, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Troll
“doesn’t agree with overly optimistic people, and wishes to discuss the teams troubles with other fans”
That’s from the dictionary
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Nirvana had a song about that.
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BB has it's own in house troll
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Flacco is a good QB..
Always was! Elite? NO! Good, YES!
A man is innocent untill proven guilty...Even if it's Ben Roethlisberger!
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by nycsteelerfan on Nov 8, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
He is!
Sanchez is not even in the equation! He plays in NY and other than that, he is average, at best.
A man is innocent untill proven guilty...Even if it's Ben Roethlisberger!
'I rather have a German division in front of me than a French division behind me'..General George Patton
" I don't care if he has two horns and a tail, as long as he is anti-communist"..General Douglas MacArthur..
"The way to end our dependence on foreign oil is to keep our tires properly inflated"....B. Hussein Obama
"Government is not the solution to our problems, it is the cause of them" Ronald Wilson Reagan..40th President of the United States
by nycsteelerfan on Nov 8, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Because one good game means a quarterback is good, right? Lol. Keep telling yourself that Flacco is the future.
Flacco is the future.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 7, 2011 11:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Joe is not a top 10 QB to anyone aside from biased Raven fans.
Time to start getting real Ratbird fans, Joe is an average QB, deal with it.
by Riddlah. on Nov 7, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
as long as we are a winning team every year that’s fine with me (to some extent). the ball is shaped a funny way and the playoffs sometimes are a tribute to it’s 45 degree bounces. you have won a few biggies on such oddities. rices fumble. troys strip on joe. games we believe we handed to you. and you feel the reverse which is why we go tooth and nail every year in the greatest games.
the ball is shaped a funny way and the playoffs sometimes are a tribute to it’s 45 degree bounces.
This. When you guys fumbled that kickoff in our territory, who knows what happens if we recover it. But, that oddly-shaped ball did not bounce our way, and I think you could pretty much sum up the entire night right there. Sometimes it bounces your way, sometimes it bounces ours and, as you said, that’s part of what makes our rivalry what it is.
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by Craig Sager's Wardrobe on Nov 7, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Well Put Raven
Well see you guys in January, hopefully we get the bounces then.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 8, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
agreed!
A man is innocent untill proven guilty...Even if it's Ben Roethlisberger!
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by nycsteelerfan on Nov 8, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Would you want Romo over him? How about Mr 14 interceptions Rivers right now? Cutler? Ryan and his average season?
Joe is on pace for a 4,000 yard season and what looks like a 13 win season. Add on top of that his past accomplishments, it is quite embarrassing on your part to practically say that there are 20 or so QBs better than him.
Stats aren’t everything, especially at the QB position. 5 of our main pass catchers right now don’t even have a total year or experience that equals Boldin’s time in the league.
Like I said, below average QBs don’t march 92 yards in the last two minutes against Pittsburgh in that stadium on primetime TV. Who is the last QB to do that to you guys, Garrard?
Get real dude. Your shit is so freaking weak.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 7, 2011 11:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Romo...no
Rivers, yes…he’s doing what he can with what he has
Cutler, Yes…ever since he found the balls to tell Martz off, he’s been awesome, and on top of that, he has NO ONE to throw to
Ryan….ughhh…he’s pretty much the same as Flacco…
I will give you Quarterbacks that are better than Flacco though
Rodgers
Brady
Eli Manning
Phillip Rivers
Peyton Manning (even though he’s not playing)
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Stafford
Jay Cutler
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Matt Schaub
Cam Newton
Josh Freeman
Sam Bradford
Michael Vick
Tim Tebow (ok i’m joking about that)
And as your number 55 would say (Benjamin Buford Blue) that’s, that’s about it
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Whatever you say man. The last half of that list in their entire careers hasn’t done what Flacco has done in somewhat 1 season.
Your opinion doesn’t mean much anyway, even your fellow Steelers have said that.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
nope...you're right.
one game…one important game….that’s all that matters
forget the fact that all of the Ravens success…had absolutely nothing to do with him (that Pats playoff win, etc)
But, hey…i can tell you someone who has a more valid opinion..it’s you.
of course you can never back that up, but you are certainly e-vocal about it…so that makes you right
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well
all i can say is..thank god i’m not a 12 year old girl..otherwise your comment would really sting.
that said…can you for once, come up with a counter point? which of those QB’s do you honestly believe Flacco is better than?
Don’t worry…i don’t expect anything, except your usual.
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Don't bother.
His arguments to support Flacco are something like this:
“Who cares what you Steeler fans think? He’s a top 10 QB, get over it. Sure. he has terrible stats but who cares about stats anyways?”
or
“Look what he’s done in the least few seasons. He’s sooo good OMG.”
- First rookie quarterback to start all sixteen games and make the playoffs
- First rookie quarterback to win two playoff games
- Most starts by a quarterback in first season: 19
- Most starts by a quarterback in first two seasons: 37
- Most starts by a quarterback in first three seasons: 55
- Most wins by a quarterback in first 60 consecutive starts: 40
- First quarterback to start and win a playoff game in each of his first three seasons
- Most combined regular and postseason wins in first three years as a quarterback: 36
- Most playoff road wins: 4
- Only 6th Quarterback in NFL history to eclipse 10,000 yards in first 3 seasons. (Something Ben
didn’t do.)
- Career 85.9 rating
- Eight 4th quarter or OT comeback victories (Ben has 16 in more than twice the years)
- In previous seasons, he has finished with a better QB rating than the likes of Brees, Manning, Ryan, etc.
- Joe in his first 3 seasons compared to Brady, Brees and Manning in their first 3 seasons. Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions. Add on top of that more wins than any of them in their first 3 seasons, I guess those guys were below average at that point as well.
But I am sure that given what I just stated above, it means nothing to you and you will just say that 54% completion this year puts him as one of the worst in the league, which is alright. Like I said above, nothing is impressive to Steeler fans unless their team does it. The few points I made above prove that he has been one of the better QB’s in the league over the last 3 seasons and this one.
Like I said to FrankWyt above, this topic is so played out, especially on this blog, and you as well seem fairly new to BTSC as I have been debating the topic for over 3 years now with some of the logical ones here.
Be easy.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 8, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
I’m not arguing against you, but some of those “firsts” are a bit specific.
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by John Stephens on Nov 8, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, if it has never been done by anyone else, gotta be specific about it…..right?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I'm just saying
- Most wins by a quarterback in first 60 consecutive starts: 40
That’d probably be more impressive if it wasn’t consecutive.
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by John Stephens on Nov 8, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
But it just so happened that his 60 consecutive starts were also his first 60 games played.
So maybe we just came up with another stat by Joe that has never been done!
- Most wins in for 60 games played: 40
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
that is what is known as a team stat
any of those stats that have to do with wins are not him.
The yards/ less int’s…i’d go with that
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any of those stats that have to do with wins are not him.
Yea, same with all the other winning QB’s in this league, Ben, Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, their wins are not on them either.
Do you not find it strange that QB is the only position judged by wins? Do you see LB’s or OL being judged by wins? No, because they do not play the most important position on the team.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Most wins, for Sunday 1 o’clock games, while wearing purple, in the month of october, with a OT who had a movie based about him – 13
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by John Stephens on Nov 8, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Add it to the list!!!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
lol
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by John Stephens on Nov 8, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Also, in your comparison
You used Manning and his interceptions, despite the fact that right out of the gate, he was the entire team. So yeah, he’s going to throw some picks
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Not my problem. And I am sure Joe would have loved throwing to Marvin Harrison right out the gate and have Marshall Faulk backing you up instead of Mark Clayton, Yamon Figurs and Demetrius Williams, rookie Ray Rice and no speed McGahee.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Well that
or knowing you’re not really responsible for your teams success, because you have an amazing defense.
Btw, Harrison wasn’t all that good until Manning got there.
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Did you know the NE defense all 3 years they won the Superbowl allowed 17 ppg or less in each of those 3 championship years? Guess Brady wasn’t responsible either, right?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Yes, i did know that
And Brady played his part, as part of the team. That is different than Manning being the team.
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or knowing you’re not really responsible for your teams success, because you have an amazing defense.
I recall hearing the exact same thing about a certain Steelers Quarterback for years
Seriously, drop it now.
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 8, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd
A lot of Steeler fans forget how horrible Big Bens third season was. No one threw the towel in on him and yet they expect you to in Flaccos fourth despite three playoff appearances just because its Flacco and youre a Ravens fan
Sigh….
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 8, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe because Ben was almost killed in a crash, then needed an emergency surgery to remove an internal organ just before the season started.
THREE most starts stats, lol, talk about reaching. Ben’s rookie year > Flaccos, same when you compare their first 4 years.
The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010
Hell if Flacco can be in Ben’s arena, I’d be happy as a Ravens fan. It really doesn’t take anything away from Joe by saying he hasn’t been as good as Ben.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
He’s 2-0 against our biggest rival and previous AFC Champion.
He’s led 2 game winning 4th quarter drives.
He’s the most important player on a 6-2 team who has a great shot at a first round bye and at least one home game.
He’s on pace to throw for over 4,000 yards.
I’d say he’s doing pretty good overall, especially considering he’s had a few down games. I’ll take that any day.
He’s had a few good games, the rest have been pretty horrid. How is he doing this year overall?
QB rating 76.9
9 tds/ 6 ints.
55% completion %
6.6 YPA
win/loss record is a product of combined team play. When you look at his individual stats they show he is clearly not having a good year.
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I’ve debated this topic too much, and it is quite boring at this point. You are new to these blogs, so I expect you to be all prissy about it. Funny that I see more Steeler fans on this post saying he is a top 10 QB or at least a very good QB than I see people like you and Riddalin saying he is garbage.
I’ll just leave this here and let it soak in juuuuussssttttt a bit more that this below average QB just had the greatest drive on Pittsburgh in god knows how long.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
Amazing
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Wasn’t trying to detract from your Flacco argument. Having a little caption fun. Sorry if it seemed to be at your expense.
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
No, please do detract me from that dumbass argument. But glad the noobies got put in their place, should be fun to see their response other than Joe’s completion % this season and that he had 4 completions in the NE playoff game.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
So which of those qb's listed is worse than Flacco?
I mean, trust me, i enjoyed your meaningless stats.
An important one is “almost never the reason they win” but you forgot that one.
Of the QB’s listed that hurt your feelings, which of those is worse than Flacco?
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I would say the only QB’s that are clearly better than Joe right now are Rodgers, Ben, Brees, Brady, Peyton (when healthy) maybe Rivers (17 turnovers is shit) and Eli. I think a case can be made for guys like Stafford, Schaub, Ryan, Freeman, etc.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Stat responses are a bit boring to me. But judging from this thread, it’s safe to say I believe Joe is a better QB than most of the folks posting here. Further, I’m not sure how you can discount the two games he had against us this year either.
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
Cant agree there!
Stafford, better than flacco? Vick?? Fitzpatrick? Cutler?? Newton? Bradford? Freeman???? He is not top 10, but close..
1. Rodgers
2. Brady
3. P. Manning
4. roethlisberger
5. Brees
6. Rivers
7. E. Manning
Flacco is getting close to top 10..
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by nycsteelerfan on Nov 8, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Who are 8,9,10?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Just for you MaLoR, my list:
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Peyton Manning
4. Ben Roethlisberger
5. Drew Brees
6. Eli Manning
7. Phillip Rivers
8. Matthew Stafford
9. Matt Schaub
10. Joe Flacco
Based on the last few seasons, he comes in at #10 on mine, but I will say the parity of the guys 9-12 (Ryan, Freeman being 11 and 12) is seriosuly close.
Personally, if Matthew Stafford wasnt made of glass, he could be higher on that list.
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 8, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Mine
1. Rodgers
2. Ben
3. Brady
4. Brees
5. Eli
6. Peyton (seriously considered taking him off)
7. Flacco
8. Stafford (want to see it continue)
9. Ryan
10. Cam Newton (yup, I did that)
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Quite similar
I thought about leaving Peyton off too.
Also seriously contemplated Newton in the top 10, but too soon.
Big Ben is still my number 1 quarterback for the Steelers though, dont think any QB could have had the same success with the OL issues and what else. I made my rankings off pure passing ability, clutch and consistency, hence why Brady and Manning snuck in front
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 8, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
My List
1. Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Ben
4, Brees
5. Rivers
6. Eli
7. Stafford
8. Ryan
9. Vick
10. Cutler
Too soon to tell, but He’ll be here soon
Cam Newton – That team has been in every single game because of him.
One of the great disappointments of a football game is that the cheerleaders never seem to get injured.
Cam Newton looks scarily good for a rookie
If he keeps improving he may be in the top #5 before too many years pass.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how anyone can put Stafford in a top 10 list. The guy can’t stay healthy. When he can complete 2 seasons in a row and not miss a game, then he should be allowed in the discussion. A half season doesn’t prove anything
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
it's not like he hasn't played at all
He did finish ten games in his rookie year.
He has shown flashes of brilliance despite the injuries, and now it’s coming together. We are talking about the current best (I think), and that’s how i could personally justify having Stafford’s inclusion in my own “list”
That is also why Cam Newton is so high for me too.
Right now..
If i went off history, there’s no way I’d put Brady all the way down to like 4th or 5th
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U got me there!
I was thinking Romo, great numbers, but lots of miscues..schaub? ok, this year Flacco #8! Ok?
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by nycsteelerfan on Nov 8, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Rivers, yes…he’s doing what he can with what he has
What!? A team full on offense. The guy can’t even get the snap right… he’s in a huge funk and has never been known to win games. He’s a stat hog and nothing more.
Cutler, Yes…
Absolutely not! The guy can’t even finish a playoff game cause his feelings are hurt. His own fanbase and team questioned if he was really hurt. Not to mention Cutler is an INT machine.
The rest of the list is a joke aside from like 4 or 5 right now. Its clear you don’t watch any other team aside from the Steelers or you’d know better.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Full on offense?
are you kidding there?
Vincent Jackson…then what? You should try watching that team some time.It’s funny that you would say the Chargers are “full on offense” then accuse me of not watching other teams.
Every Sunday, I have the tv on, and switch back and forth between one of several streams.
Gates? yeah…not the same guy.
Maybe you meant Mathews? nope, can’t be that.
Tolbert? yeah, he’s a beast, but not exactly great.
With Cutler, if you choose to believe that nonsense about Cutler, feel free, I won’t stop you. It’s kind of stupid to think that, considering how often he got drilled all of last year. Same with early this season, he just keeps getting up.
I’ve seen some of your comments, and I have a hard time believing that you are dumb/gullible enough to believe that “Cutler ’s a pussy” nonsense. Int’s do get thrown when you are constantly getting crushed.
The list is a joke to you because I didn’t put Flacco on it, that is all.
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Cmon...
Over at BB you guys are continually debating just how good Flacco is. You guys aren’t even convinced he’s a top flight QB, so why are you trying to convince us?
I give him his due, he played great Sunday night, and yes he played damn fine in week one as well, but you can’t forget those pesky six games in between where he spent most of his time sucking. I get that your proud of him for stepping up in a big situation, but everyone has their day…it doesn’t mean he’s elite. Personally, I say he’s somewhere between 11-16, but not top ten. To suggest that Flacco is somehow better than Matt Ryan or Philip Rivers, or that he’s even their equal is pretty laughable.
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by idiscgolftexas on Nov 8, 2011 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
Over at BB you guys are continually debating just how good Flacco is
Not me. There are maybe 2-3 asshats over there who think Joe is a piss poor QB, and most of the time the only reason they say is that Bulger had more experience or Tyrod Taylor can run.
it doesn’t mean he’s elite.
Don’t think I said he is elite (and if I did, it is mostly a joke to piss you guys off). But what he has done this season doesn’t also mean that he is below average.
To suggest that Flacco is somehow better than Matt Ryan or Philip Rivers, or that he’s even their equal is pretty laughable.
I don’t think that is laughable, particularly with Ryan. Joe had better stats in EVERY category but TD’s (Ryan had only 6 more) in each of their first 3 seasons, on top of that 4 playoff wins compared to Ryan’s zero.
And the Rivers argument can be made for right now. If idiots like Riddalin and FrankWyt are throwing out CURRENT stats as their main reason for why Flacco is a below average QB, than what does that say about a QB like Rivers who has turned the ball over a whopping 17 times this year and is single handily losing games for his team. (don’t give me that “doing more with less” crap either, Joe has 3 rookie WR and two 2nd year TE’s going for him).
Look, I don’t expect to come on here and find much support for Flacco, and that is fine, you guys are Steeler fans and just look at his ugly, boring face and strictly think that the failures he had against you all determines what kind of QB he is overall.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
OOOOH Idiots!
I suppose that is what anyone who points out the obvious is.
Glad you had to resort to that. I would expect nothing less.
It’s the philosophy. If you can’t beat em, cheap shot em..
it’s a raven staple
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Just like you described me as a 12 year old girl?
If you can’t beat em, cheap shot em..
Been the philosophy in both our matchups from your team this year for sure.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
wait a minute now
who described you as a 12 year old?
there have been two “12 year old” references
One was by you, saying that Halo was for 12 year olds, so, that’s on you
the other was me saying “I’m not a 12 year old girl”
i don’t know how you could take that as saying you are a 12 year old, it was saying, since i’m not a little girl, i don’t get all worked up by what someone thinks of anything I say or do, especially you.
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All twitch games are for 12 yr olds
Halo, CoD and GoW are all twitch games as far as I am concerned. Give me Hearts of Iron 3, Victoria 2 and Europa Universalis 3 anytime over a twitch game.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I've never heard the term "twitch game" before
No video game is for any specific age group. Being the age I am, was one of the first generations of the “video game revolution” so it hasn’t actually been established what is “too old” for some things.
My brother in law is 41, he still plays shooters, I’ve played Halo on Live with people much older than me, and they are damn good at it.
I haven’t heard of any of the games you mentioned though. What type of games are they?
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4-4 against the Steelers. Joe has had a decent amount of success against the Steelers.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Only stat that matters in the end is the W. Can he get you there or not? It'
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 8, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
Oops, typo at the end.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 8, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Only stat that matters in the end is the W.
Well considering he has the most ever of those in a QB’s first 3 seasons, guess that means he is the best ever then.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
How far that carries you I am not sure
but you can’t argue against wins. Everyone tries to breakdown Ben cause he isn’t pretty – but the cat WINS games. And in the end, that is all that matters. Flacco has been inconsistent, but he is playing at a high level and if his last 2 games against the Steelers are any indication, his stock is on the rise. I don’t understand all the Flacco hate, but we get the same crap about Ben, so it is what it is…
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Nov 8, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that is truly the only stat that matters. I honestly think Joe is in the same boat and mold as Ben. Both are big and tough to bring down at times, yet they make head scratching plays every now and again. But at the end of the game, you always have a shot to pull something out.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Don't agree
that they are in the same mold. They are both big, but I think that is were the mold broke. I don’t consider Flacco to be that hard to bring down, just my opinion. Another difference is that Ben is better at scrambling and making a play, Flacco is far better when he stays in the pocket and has protection (as witnessed on 3rd downs Sunday). Flacco is not great when he gets outside the pocket and tends to get just rid of the ball a lot, Ben often holds it too long when scrambling and takes a sack.
All that being said, Joe shows a lot of growth this year. His calm on the last drive was amazing, he didn’t have the dancing nervous feet of old. I miss the dancing nervous feet.
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by stillergorillar on Nov 9, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
I was saying all of last week that the only QB I would take over Ben at this point is Rodgers. Ben is a straight Baller, won’t find any on him from this guy.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 7, 2011 11:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Find any hate*
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 7, 2011 11:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ya
Rodgers is RIDICULOUS, I cant believe how well he is playing. He is so efficient too. Heard some analysts debating whether Rodgers season this year has been better than Brady’s in 2007. I think it has been better so far. Hes posted a QB rating of 110+ in every game this season. His rating for the season so far is 129. wow
Flacco is good, its just strange how inconsistent he can be at times. He had a little streak there of bad QB play against bad teams, then comes into Pittsburgh and plays a great game, drives the whole field in the last 2 mins and wins the game. He was really good on 3rd down, that was huge for the ravens.
Flacco is good, its just strange how inconsistent he can be at times
Trust me when I say that pass blocking has been absolute shit this year. McKinnie and Gurode were getting destroyed the last 4-5 weeks, and the pocket was never there.
Joe isn’t the type of QB Ben is where he is going to extend the play with his legs (no QB has been as good as Ben is at that in the history of the league) Joe is a pocket passer, and there isn’t anything wrong with that, basically all but 3 or 4 of the QB’s in the league are pocket passers. And Steeler fans saw first hand Sunday night and also in week 1 that when Joe has a pocket, the man can absolutely pick you apart.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Hey man
i’m not trying to argue with you or anything, im giving Flacco his due. What would the NFL be without these Steelers/Ravens games? As fans we are blessed to have two teams left in the NFL that play good, old school smashmouth football, the way the game is supposed to be played. I really look forward to seeing the Ravens again in the playoffs. You and I both know they will see eachother again. Probably in the AFC championship game.
i’m not trying to argue with you or anything, im giving Flacco his due.
I know man, and I highly appreciate that.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Malor..
I agree!
A man is innocent untill proven guilty...Even if it's Ben Roethlisberger!
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by nycsteelerfan on Nov 8, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh for heavens sakes Riddiah,
Flacco has definitely been inconsistent this season, but when he’s playing well he’s playing incredibly well. His overall numbers are down because of a few bad games. Last night wasn’t one of them.
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Nov 7, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
when flacco fumbled it looked like he wouldn’t be allowed off the plane at BWI. that last drive saved b-more from total insanity. not because of a loss but because it was the “fumble” AGAIN. flacco needed that final drive more than anyone will ever know.
yeah
I think that could have been considered a statement game by him. It wasn’t perfect but he kept battling and making plays when he absolutely had to make them. I am not a fan of his but I think he deserves credit for the a good game. The Ravens needed him to step it up and make plays and he did. That is all you can ask of your QB.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Joe Cool Graduates
When Joe started that final, fateful drive, I said to myself, “If he pulls this off, he will slay his demons and move to the next level.”. Mind you, I didn’t think he would do it. But, sadly for Steeler fans, he did. Suggesting now that he is not a good QB, or was just lucky, is both ungracious and ignorant of the long and rocky path he took to this moment. Joe has arrived. But, of course, he will never get his full due until he gets his team to the big game.
by Citizen of Steeler Nation on Nov 8, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you. Much respect.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 7, 2011 11:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"His overall numbers are down because of a few bad games"
That’s incorrect. In fact, his overall numbers are actually up because of two great games and one good one. Look at his QB ratings for each game:
Pittsburgh-117.6 rating
TEN-51.2
STL-103.6
NYJ-37.4
HOU-78.5
JAC-61.0
ARI-72.0
Pittsbrugh-85.4
Except for the first Steeler game and the St. Louis game, he’s been terrible to average in every game.
Funny that two of his top 3 QB ratings this year came against you guys, and in very convincing fashion, but he is below average. I’ll take those below average ratings in games where Joe mops the floor all over your supposed “best pass defense” in the league.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I’m sure you would take those ratings because you have no idea what it’s like to have a great QB on your team. However, playing well twice a year doesn’t make you good. Keep up with your hilarious “arguments”, though, because I find them absolutely… well, hilarious.
by Riddlah. on Nov 8, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HEY HEY HEY. third best pass D, and he didnt “mop” the floor. Throwing for 400 yards is mopping the floor-like statistics
Had Torrey caught the easy balls that hit his hands, Joe would have been damn close to that 400yd number.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
If Torrey had better hands
would he have been available in the 2nd round? Torrey reminds me of Limas Sweed though he seems healthier.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
If i had wheels, i'd be a wagon.
There were plenty of missed plays for the Steelers too.
for instances, if David “dumbass” Johnson doesn’t drop that ball, the clock keeps moving, no chance for a comeback
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no doubt
Sometimes the other guy earns his paycheck. Tip your hat and move on already. I really don’t see how anything has changed. Yes we normally win these games by a FG, and this time we lost on a final minute play. It’s not the end of the world, it’s just the reason they play the game.
I’m sure Ravens fans aren’t saying to themselves “please let us play them again in the playoffs – they’re patsies!!!”… at least not any rational fan. Aside from the week 1 debacle, these games can go either way every time.
I didn't think Gay was that bad
Clark blew it on the final TD not Gay.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
By the way, this post bears no resemblance to the game I watched on Sunday night.
This was a thrilling and hard-fought matchup; the kind that the NFL loves to have on SNF. Pointing fingers is pretty absurd at this point.
Thank you, Billy.
rj, I don’t see how you’re seeing what you say you were seeing. Are you sure you didn’t put your recording of Week 1 on instead?
Were some mistakes made? Yes. Did everyone play perfectly on every snap? Probably not. Would you if you had been suited up for the Steelers yesterday? I presume that your answer must be yes, given your assessment of the game.
I also assume that you must be perfect during every moment of every day at whatever it is you do. People aren’t perfect, no matter how much you pay them… Even the great Tom Brady had a bad game or two the past few weeks, IIRC…
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by Rebecca Rollett on Nov 7, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
you are right about one thing
John Madden you are not.
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When a guy says he not John Madden
normally means he isn’t John Madden boom
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by WVPiratesfan on Nov 8, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
+1 for boom
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Flacco is top 10 no question
I’m tired of the press banging on him. He won that game fair and square. Threw 2 perfect passes. 1 was dropped and 1 wasn’t. It’s the law of averages……we should never have won that game in Balt last yr. On any given Sunday………
Agreed
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
i see you got answers for things that make you feel good lol
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You are the Evan Skev of this forum aren’t you. The guy that no one likes and refuses to admit when you are completely beat. Then you just post 1 liners about something stupid and irrelevant to the conversation like you’re some cool guy.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Please do not mention that name here
He is a burden you should keep to yourself. He is the most annoying fan I have seen on SBnation boards (who hasn’t been banned).
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, fair enough. Though you have to admit that FrankWyt is pretty damn close. I’m not entirely sure they aren’t the same person. Look at the way they respond to things and tell me you can’t see it.
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by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
so you are basing that on comments made to one of your BB people that are mostly
true, but also meant to get him going, because he’s so determined to prove this point that can’t be proven?
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absolutely
he played great on Sunday, and did what he had to do to get a win. Getting sick of people arguing that it’s all his team that pads his stats… Don’t you guys realize that with that, you essentially agree with the exact argument that was used against Ben for the majority of his career? What more do you expect of a QB than to come away with a win at the end of the day? I can’t stand Flacco’s face, but it’s absolutely ridiculous to suggest that he is a below average QB when you see guys like John Beck and Tavaris Jackson start on some other teams.
I'm not sure you understand what the word "good" means
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+1
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
i dont see it as a fluke loss
but i dont see it as an indication that we arent a good team either. i see it as a classic rivalry game that didnt turn out in our favor. i dont understand why everyone is pointing fingers so much. is everyones ego that hurt from getting swept?
because
people need to blame someone for things, acceptance that their isn’t one or two people to blame is tantamount to giving the credit to the other team.
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by stillergorillar on Nov 8, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
Fluke
There are no flukes in football. Its a game determined by surprises, mental errors and wacky plays. On the subject of Flacco, he has been inconsistant this season. Just a few weeks ago you had writers and fans doubting him and the boos rained down. In one half vs arizona the fans booed Flacco and questioned the season. The 2nd half he suddenly becomes top 10 in the league in peoples eyes. Lets just stop calling him below average because you’ll be countered with stats that say otherwise. Lets also stop calling him top 10 because stats say otherwise. Besides, its mid-season still. Its a goofy argument. If Flacco completes 45% of his throws and loses 2 fumbles this week you can expect the pitchforks to come out again from the Ravens fanbase. I dont consider Flacco Elite. Not because I hate him, but because our own QB has and still is left out anytime talking heads mention the Elite. If ben isnt included, Flacco most certainly is not. This guy must win a SB, and even then people may neglect to include his name in any conversation. Ben has guided the Steelers to 3 SBs and has 2 rings and look at the disrespect he gets. You think Flacco can bypass that scrutiny?
I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.
by steeltech on Nov 8, 2011 10:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Let’s just agree with Ben and Joe being the two most disrespected QB’s in the league. Alright with that?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I can agree with that...
…I’ve never been a big Joe hater (other than he plays for Ratbirds). Actually, his arm strength amazes me; he can drop a 60 yarder into a bucket numerous times.
What we have here gentlemen (and ladies), is (1) natural born rivalry that, for some, doesn’t allow room for appreciation of the talents on the other team, and (2), jealousy. Yes, I said it, jealousy. Your guy won, ours didn’t. Ours is just starting to get some appreciation outside of Pittsuburgh, and WHAM, now we have another QB in our division that is showing signes of greatness (though, that will have to wait until he wins the big one, or plays for 13 years and breaks records ala Marino). Just as we don’t like to share dominance in our division with the three teams from Ohio, we don’t want any shade to fall upon the spotlight on our QB.
End of day Mr. MaLoR, yea, your guy did good. He looks like he has it together to put a strong career up. But we still hate anything, anybody, wearing Purple.
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by PaVaSteeler on Nov 8, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea, Ravens play in Bal'more, but they'll always be Cuyahoga river scum to me.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Thank you man. Like I said, there are quite a few logical people here. Guys like FrankWyt and Riddalin…..not so much.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
awww
why do you want to hurt me when all i want to do is love you?
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Are you still baffled by the fact that every Steeler fan here but you and Riddalin is saying Flacco is a good QB?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
He is good obviously
he’s an NFL qb (I know, Sanchez is too, but that’s different)
He’s not a top ten qb, or anywhere near elite level
for every good game he has, he has 2 or 3 horrible ones.
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You are talking to a Troll!
If yall want him, you can have him!
by steeler fever on Nov 8, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
what exactly do you think you're doing right now Ms Sunshine?
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Which is why it is fun!!!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
so...
about “calling you a 12 year old girl” do you care to answer for that?
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Yea, you’re a 12 year old girl.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
part of the reason I like this site is it does tend to get policed
even with a few stragglers like you mentioned, at least it’s not “lord of the flies” bad like yahoo where 99% of the time is spent adding more trolls to the ignore list.
Nice win by the way Malor. I hope there’s a third meeting in the playoffs. Win or lose, these games are the best entertainment of the season… well maybe not week 1 this year, but you get the idea.
We do get a few
who seem to be off their meds every once in awhile but they tend to post a lot then vanish in a puff of indignation (where have all the Hi-5s gone). I don’t think we have anyone in that territory atm.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Malor is right
It is time for Steelers fans to realize that Flacco is good. I wouldn’t say elite, but definitely good. We sweep the season series with the Ravens and Flacco is terrible. They sweep the season series and Flacco is terrible? Sounds like haters hating to me. Give the guy some credit. He stepped up in some huge games/situations this season. Yes, he’s had a few hiccups, but most seasons we can say the same thing about Ben as well. Just so happens Ben’s playing out of his mind this season.
And if he’s so terrible, then why did we lose to them twice thus far? And don’t be use the “he has a great defense” argument because everyone used that against Ben (especially in XL) and we Steelers fans argued against that until we were blue in the face, so that would be hypocritical. Flacco is good (above average QB) period.
"If we weren't all crazy we'd all go insane" - Jimmy Buffett
And if he’s so terrible, then why did we lose to them twice thus far?
I’m sure FrankWyt will say it was strictly because of other factors, and Flacco wasn’t one of them.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
you should worry about what you say
he was good against the Steelers. The first game, it was more about the turnovers, but he did lead the winning drive Sunday, so, for that game, it was him, for once
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Still gotta put the points on the board off those turnovers, which is exactly what Joe did. Not my fault Ben had 5 turnovers in that game.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
and he did that. It's helpful, but you still gotta get it done.
i said “more about the turnovers” not “only about the turnovers”
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Flacco is good
That last drive was not an easy drive. Or maybe it was because we had William Gay on 1-1 coverage. But maybe thats the quality of a good QB, to recognize bad matchups and exploit them.
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
exploiting weakness is a sign of a good QB
I wonder if Gay was given his last assignment based on that receiver’s bad hands (which he showed several times earlier).
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
It wouldn’t be the worst idea. Just like in sandlot football, you put the kid that sucks on the kid that can’t catch… you’ll win most of the time in that matchup.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I think happened there
Clark was supposed to give support over the top but was a step late moving over.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
It was a play that could have gone either way. It could have been knocked down and it could have been caught. Luckily it looks like Clark was caught peeking somewhere and let Torrey get behind him. Honestly, Torrey had been crap all game, so I wouldn’t blame Clark for assuming he wouldn’t catch it deep and maybe want to play in front in case we wanted to catch Torrey in stride in front of the endzone as a surprise.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
FrankWyt
Can everyone please just discredit everything this guy says? He makes us look bad. After the game sunday night, i saw multiple comments on a previous thread here that bc of this loss sunday night, the Steelers were done and we’re even going to make the playoffs, etc etc. I dont know if who this guy is, whether he is a persistent troll or a moron, but his comments make me feel embarassed for him.
Is Joe Flacco an “elite” quarterback? It depends on who you ask- Gruden thinks there are 41 elite quarterbacks in the league… But it doesnt really matter, Joe was good enough to beat the Steelers on sunday night.
Can everyone please just discredit everything this guy says?
Exactly why I said to him…..
Your opinion doesn’t mean much anyway, even your fellow Steelers have said that.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
so..
two or three people that barely show up here are “my fellow Steeler fans”
Not sure what i’m going to do now.
I’ll tell you, i’m going to go over to the corner, try to regroup, and hopefully come back stronger in a few minutes.
I’ll let you know how it goes
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You do that bud.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Well I did it
After a few minutes to reflect, i have came up with a solution. i’m going to keep it in house, because that’s how I roll. But i can assure you, it was beneficial, and I have only you to thank.
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Fellow steeler fan here!
Your opinion means nothing………
I would trade you for Mr. Malor any day!
by steeler fever on Nov 8, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It means enough to get your sunshiney panties all bunched up
so..there’s that
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do you know how i treat opinions that "don't matter"
i ignore them. That’s what everyone does to opinions that don’t matter.
If you continue to follow me around making stupid comments, it matters to you.
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do you know how i treat opinions that “don’t matter”
i ignore them.
You didn’t ignore me…and my opinion on Joe clearly didn’t matter.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
it's an opinion and like assholes we all have one
and most times they ALL stink:)
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Nov 8, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
because your opinion does matter
i never said it didn’t, now did i?
are you putting words in my mouth again?
that’s unnecessary
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No, I am not putting words in your mouth, seems like you have enough shit in there already….
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
haha
you should really work on your insults, they are weak as hell
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So is your knowledge of this sport.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
you managed to outdo yourself
nice job!
Does “knowledge of this sport” mean saying all Raven players are the greatest?
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When did I say that?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
here we go round the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush
would you, for once, say something?
That is really the only reason you could possibly say what you just said. Because I pointed out about 13 or 14 qb’s that are currently better than Flacco.
What else could you possibly be going on sweet cheeks?
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Um, what?
Does "knowledge of this sport" mean saying all Raven players are the greatest?
I was asking when did I say all Ravens players are the greatest?
Because I pointed out about 13 or 14 qb’s that are currently better than Flacco.
That is your opinion, which obviously holds as much truth as a bag of dog shit it seems like to most people, even your own “Yinzers”
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
so.. about that knowledge thing.
who am i kidding? you are what you are
we already went over this “fellow yinzers/Steeler fans” thing. You are going to need something new.
I have a question though, what’s the difference between you and Evan Skev?
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You are going to need something new.
Such as what….a Ravens regular season sweep of the Steelers? Been there, done that.
I have a question though, what’s the difference between you and Evan Skev?
I actually know what I am talking about, and will respond to horrific comments like the ones you have made with stats and logical explanations to prove my point. Funny that my comment about Joe above is green now…..and neither you or that other fool have come up with anything to say regarding it.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
stats?
“most starts” and other irrelevant stats.
what was the option there?
Yes, some of those are nice stats, but most of them were just “participation trophy” type stats.
He has more than proven himself to be awesome against weak teams.
This year he took a step forward by playing well in the two Steeler games. But also laid eggs against the Titans and Jaguars.
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Well glad your only response is “those are some nice stats”
My job here is done. Goodnight!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I just skimmed through the comments and don’t know if Malor has covered this, but one thing that continually gets overlooked is how many new and switched around pieces we have had offensively this year. Oher switched back to the right which took some getting used to, Yanda was an OT last year and went back to guard, Gurode wasn’t here last year and is a C, but has had to play G ( which he’s horrible at) and Mckinnie wasn’t here last year either and has been getting beat as well.
Our most experienced Ravens receiver has been with us a whole season and a half. After that we have Torrey and Laquan who are both rookies, Pitta and Dickson are both in their 2nd year and barely played last year because of Heap. The whole offense is basically brand new and naturally most QB’s aren’t going to put up the same numbers they have in years past. However the big knock on Joe over here is he chokes when the game is on the line. Last week we saw what happened, Texans we were down at half and Joe lead us back that game, also the week before last against the cardinals he was the primary reason we came back down 21. Joe is starting to play his best ball when the game is on the line now and that is very significant. Yes his numbers are down, but that is the main area we all wanted to see him improve. The numbers will come but he’s now performing with the game on the line. Our D will keep us in every game, but now we got a QB who is performing his best in critical situations.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Game on the line is important
and at least among some of the BB’ers, that was the knock on him. He’s obviously grown a bit.
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You’ve quieted down a bit, I like that.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
sorry, lunch time
but since you miss me so much, i came back, just for you sugar britches
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I meant basically with your comments towards Joe. They slowly went from…..
He is not even a top 25 QB.
to
Those are some nice stats, he looked really good when it mattered most.
Like I said, goodnight!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I said not even top 25?
I don’t remember that, but if i did it should be obvious i said that to get your riled up, because it’s funny
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props up Malor
U dirty stinking rat face
by Steelchamps !! on Nov 8, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
You aren't going to win they arguement that you have had to make so many adjustments
when you compare the number of adjustments the Steelers have had to make on a weekly basis for the last two years. I can’t believe any of our coaches have any hair left.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
by the way
comments like “Such as what….a Ravens regular season sweep of the Steelers? Been there, done that.” will have those same Steeler fans that are my “fellows” turn on you quickly.
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I thought it was funny
There’s shit in there… get it!? Its like he’s saying you’re full of shit, you know, cause your an idiot.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Confusious say
while calling someone an idiot, one must know the difference between “your” and “you’re”
I do not own “an idiot” “an idiot” does not belong to me.
You do realize we learn that in second grade right?
“you’re” school not dun good?
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GIMME FOOD GIMME FRIES GIMME SAMMICH ON THE SIDE - James Hetfield
*Confucious
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GIMME FOOD GIMME FRIES GIMME SAMMICH ON THE SIDE - James Hetfield
why are u calling FrankWyt a Troll????
just because you happen to disagree with him does NOT mean he is a troll….he is not a troll but you might be an asshat if you keep calling him troll…get over it already…SMDH!!!
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Nov 8, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
cuz in my opinion he is a Troll!
And folks that bring meaningful conversation, ie Mr. Malor , should be aware of him.
by steeler fever on Nov 8, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
You can shake your damn head all you want Duchess!
You are breaking my heart!
by steeler fever on Nov 8, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
awww thank you!
i have been coming on here since the beginning of the season, and never had a negative word to say, then Sunshine panties sees a conversation i wasn’t even having with her and has been following me around ever since.
it’s actually getting disturbing now
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We'd all be thankful
If you two would just kiss and make up.
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
I have no problems with him/her
I’m not him/her around, I’m not talking to him/her, i have nothing to do with this.
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*following him/her around
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rather kick him in the ass
and chain him under the bridge with his Troll kind!
But for the sake of the site, I will NEVER again engage in any convo with him again. I will perhaps warn others of the presence of the troll if they are someone who brings quality conversation to the site.
by steeler fever on Nov 8, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
i still love you anyway sunshine!
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by the way, if you do that, you'll still be following me around and doing the exact same thing
so i will reword your comment for you.
“for the sake of the site, i’ll stop doing that, but i’m going to go around and continue doing that”
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Such as what….a Ravens postseason win against the Steelers? Joe’s been there, but never done that/
The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010
Why is it that every time we do something, another excuse comes up on why we still suck? We beat you… twice… once in a very convincing matter. Just let it go already and lets meet in the playoffs again.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Nov 8, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I can't keep up with BTSC anymore
Every thread turns into 100+ comments. Time to start skimming for specific names…
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
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A lot of comments are just
“Bitch”, “Moan”, “Steelers suck”, “Seasons over” etc etc
Can hardly bother coming here after a loss because “Level-headed thinking” is completing FUBAR
Formerly known as Steeler_
BTSC's token Kiwi fan. That means I'm a New Zealander. Yes, that small country next to Australia....no we are not part of Australia
by Michael Hewitt on Nov 8, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Its incredible to see such gloom over one loss. The division crown is still up for grabs, and its not what I care about at all. Earning a playoff spot is the only thing Im looking for and its still a ways to go. The team also gets a bye and hopefully gets healthy. There are a lot of people preparing to jump, many who already have…..its embarassing.
I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.
by steeltech on Nov 8, 2011 2:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Its no wonder people cannot stand Steeler fans.
Formerly known as Steeler_
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 8, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
starting to think the same thing
the overreacting after losing one game to a damn good team is disgusting. Get your shit together people, we’re still 6-3, which is what a LOT of teams right now would love to be.
I dont think people are jumping
They are just being realistic and true. I dont think people are jumping ship because they realize that was an important win and the steelers didnt come through. And, at this point we are looking at a wildcard spot. Yeah, alot of things could happen, and they could be positive or negative, but now we have to rely on negatives happening to the other teams in our divsion.
Ban MaLor from BTSC
And the comments will be reduced by more than half.
J/ K….
:)
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
by Han on Nov 8, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Gosh, I thought I would never miss Hi5
Quack!
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
lol
I was thinking of him while reading this thread. We haven’t seen that level of special yet but anything is possible.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
level of special
heheheh
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
Frank, its time to come for dinner...
…and stop talking to that strange looking man under the bridge
Frank: But mom, he was talking funny gibberish
Mom: No dear, he was trying to obfuscate
Frank: Yewww, what’s that?
Mom: It means he’s trying to hide the fact that the Ratbirds can’t get to the Super Bowl because of the Steelers with all his talk on how good his QB is doing.
Voice Over: Little did Frankie and his mom realize, but a dark force has risen in the North, at its name is Flacco
Cue to scary music.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
but a dark force has risen in the North, at its name is Flacco
Joe has definitely stepped his game up, but Ben is still the King of this division. That man worries me more than any other player in the league.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
well....
It’s funny how one line I put in turned into a huge debate. But while I’m at it I’d simply like to point out the fact that the stat about Flacco winning the most games in his first three years really doesn’t mean all that much. How many games did Marino win with no superbowl? Let me know when Flacco overcomes is playoff demons because until then Ben has more Lombardis in his first three years than Jacko does.
what's funny about the whole debate is this:
Joey said it himself that he is an ELITE QB….yet when Ben is asked he always pretty much shies away from it and gives kudos to Brady, etc….yes I think Joey is a GOOD QB….and so what….I’ll say it again we are all entitled to our opinions and we do not have to agree with someone’s opinion to make it valid or invalid….and Mr Malor you seem hell bent on getting into “it” over here….if you wanted a fight you found it and what would you expect….now please take your ball and go home for the day…LOL!!!
I Feel a Sin Coming On....
by the duchess of steel on Nov 8, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
My opinion of Flacco
Flacco is a good QB and tending towards being great QB. But here is a simple reason for that. He has been coached by Cam Cameron and for a while by both Cameron and Jim Zorn. Those two are definitely the top tier offensive coaches in the league now.
Actually, if I have to discredit Flacco I would say that he should have evolved much sooner. I still believe that Ben would be in the same class as Rodgers and Brady if he gets some serious coaching. Arians is a good coach but he gives Ben too much freedom.
Now I know Ravens fans will jump on me for saying Cameron is dumb. He might be a dumb playcaller but he is not a dumb coach.
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
Fluke-o?
Flacco IMO is ‘decent’
Not great, not elite, but not terrible nor bad. He’s good, decent even. He can make plays. But he’s inconsistent and is rattled under pressure. We didn’t bring pressure that whole last drive and he picked us apart.
He’s beatable. Ben is a guy that almost always leads his team to a win when he has the ball. That’s my definition of elite. Flacco did that last night, and he’s done it before. If he can do it more often he’d ascend up my list. At the moment I leave him around 9 on my top 10 list.
At the moment I leave him around 9 on my top 10 list.
From someone who spews out more hate than anyone on here, I can freaking live with that!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
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- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
