Steelers Survive Thursday Night Test against Rival Browns:10 Observations from Heinz Field
We're on to a new week and a fresh cycle of news, but in case any of you missed this recap of the Steelers' Week 14 win over the Browns last Thursday night. -Michael B.-
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My top 10 observations about the Steelers 14-3 win over the Browns from Heinz Field on Thursday. Apologies for redundant items you have already discussed at length.
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This game was one of the weirdest games I have ever attended. The Steelers score touchdowns the first and last time they touch the ball, and never in between. Both teams have touchdowns taken off the board. Both teams have their quarterbacks knocked out of the game, only to return, but they may still be injured enough not to play their next game. The crowd was nervous and relatively quiet the whole game, just weird stuff. More as we go.
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Nine penalties in the second half is simply unacceptable, though some were bogus.
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Speaking of which, Ed Hochuli and his crew had their worst game ever, and I rarely get on officials. Offensive pass interference was blatantly missed against Massaquoi shoving William Gay early in the game...Antonio Brown absolutely catches a ball that Hochuli incredibly overturns...Keisel was called for a neutral zone that caused the offense to move. It was Harrison who flinched, but stayed on-side, causing 81 to move illegally which in turn caused Keisel to wisely jump, horrible call...Farrior lifts his hands to cushion soft contact with McCoy out-of-bounds and actually tries to hold McCoy up. McCoy instead turns into a Hollywood stunt man taking a dive and the officials buy it...Hochuli actually once said "the result is a better result"...He also declared that there was no grounding, then called grounding on McCoy, when actually McCoy's knee was down before either the grounding or no grounding. It was wrong on top of wrong on top of wrong...The holding on Gay in the last minute was horrible...All in all, a shameful effort worse than any high school officiating effort.
Some idiot Browns fan decided to taunt 85 Steeler fans in a restroom. I asked the guy if he ever heard of General Custer before I advised a cop that he had 30 seconds to prevent a bludgeoning. I go annually to the Steelers game in Cleveland, and there is no amount of alcohol that could make me that stupid.
Being a good Christian that I try to be, I would wait until the day after Christmas before I told Kemo to clean out his locker. Enough is enough.
If I were a betting man I would be rich right now. 14 points? The last time the Browns gave a lackluster effort against Pittsburgh, their coach was fired within 24 hours. There was no way that team was not going to be fired up on national television. They cashed every check.
Jason Worilds had the two most unique and meaningless sacks in NFL history. He sacked McCoy on the last play of the first half and last play of the second half during meaningless Hail Mary situations. Another weird, by the way.
Those who think that the Steelers offense was inept should consider that Kapinos punted exactly one time in the game when Big Ben was quarterback (three more times with Batch). That one time occurred when Brown dropped a pass in the red zone, which would have eliminated the lone Kapinos punt (with Ben). More weird.
Deebo is going to pay a steep price for going helmet to helmet. Yes, he has a legitimate argument that McCoy turned into a running back and previously scrambled the exact same way for a touchdown (though overturned). And yes, you can't slow up if a guy at the last split second tosses the ball, turning himself back into a quarterback (the old QB-RB-QB switcheroo), but the helmet to helmet thing will cost him. Interesting that Hochuli blew it again by calling roughing the QB when it was more accurate to say helmet -to-helmet on a defenseless player without the ball. In any case, Harrison's history will work against him, especially in this day of player safety and concussion madness. Players will learn the hard way, sooner or later, to tackle with arms and shoulders instead of head and shoulders.
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I like the post a lot and am in definite agreement with you.
Especially #10.
To put a Harrison’ concussed player, right back into the game was aggregious. The Owner should be fined at least 1 million and the coaches suspended w/o pay for at least 1 game. IMO
Great stuff
1- It’s the curse of the Lightbulb helmets. They make everything look weird. Enough with the throwback to an era when Pittsburgh sucked. It works all too well.
2- Ed Hochuli. Nuff said.
3- See point no. 2
4- Darwin award winner.
5- Unlike Rick Perry and yourself I’m a total atheist on that one, clear out NOW!
6- Agreed. Trap game if there ever was one.
7- You want to see Worilds weirdness, watch him in coverage.
8- Boy did we have a hard time closing though. I blame it all on 68.
9/10- Absolutely right. Lost in the Harrison villain story is this awful and irresponsible decision to put McCoy back in without ANY sort of testing. You want player safety? Suspend Shurmur for a game or two and fine both the coach and the organization. That was a total disgrace. In this day in age there is simply no excuse for that.
Great input MR.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
Don't know that it's lost
I believe the top trending story on NFL.com is the one about Colt’s father blasting the Browns for putting him back in the game. Sure, Harrison is going to get fined, but the bigger story seems to be that the Browns violated the league’s concussion policy mandating that they hold out a player that shows any concussion like symptoms.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 10, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
My bad then
I kind of tuned out NFL.com recently. They kind of get on my nerves.
I think that started when they had Ray Guy listed in their top 10 steals of the draft. A punter drafted in the first round. Really guys, a steal? First-round steals make no sense to me for starters, and unless he can snap it to himself and fair catch it 90 yards downfield no punter should EVER be drafted in the first round. I spell that steal R-E-A-C-H. Sorry about the rant, just had to come out. Me no likes NFL.com…
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
I don't really check on them that often either
Just happened to notice it earlier today.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 10, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Before I was banned on DBN...
…I was commenting on the whole Colt returning thing (banned for a different post). Many of the fans there were incensed by the team putting Colt back in.
I looked at a replay of the period of time that Colt was on the sidelines, and if they administered any kind of test, it was for his ability to wiggle his finger.
There should be a righteous wrath to fall upon the Browns organization by the League for endangering McCoy that way.
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honestly
I don’t give a rat’s weenie about Colt McCoy, and I was glad they brought him back in – it was totally what you would expect from the loser town Holmgren Browns. Seneca Wallace was a much bigger threat to us in that series. From the 5 yard line he’s a running and passing threat of the sort that always gives our defense trouble. But of course they made the loser town Holmgren Browns choice, how could we expect any different? Ahh yes, somehow afterwards loser Holmgren could’ve found a way to blame the refs. I suppose there’s still time.
Don’t read this comment as me endorsing players getting hurt. I only endorse the loser town Browns making the loser choice that is typical of the loser organization and their loser president, Mike Holmgren.
However, Shurmur really needs to be dinged, not only for the decision, but for his condescending response to McCoy’s father, which was something like, “I’m also the father of a quarterback”. Right. And if it was your son out there you would’ve made the same call? What a Holmgren Brown he is.
"I respect everyone on the football field. But some people I don't like. And some people I dislike even more." - James Harrison
by steely mcballs on Dec 11, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
If I was Shurmur, and Colt McCoy’s dad came up to be whining about it, I would have been far less diplomatic in my response.
This ain’t Texas anymore, pal, shut your ass up. All you’re doing is encouraging the Browns to take a good, long look at Robert Griffin III. Don’t think for a second your boy is the kind of god in this organization as he was at UT, and that you have any kind of say in what happens here.
by Neal Coolong on Dec 11, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
indeed
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 12, 2011 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
In defense of the Browns...
It’s not like the concussion would have been easy to spot. Colt McCoy was looking dazed and confused at the quarterback position the whole night.
+1
That’s what I said. Concussion or not, he didn’t play well anyway.
by Neal Coolong on Dec 11, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
There was a serious drop off after the hit
He may not have looked great before but he really seemed lost after.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Dec 12, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
#5... Kemo... Explain it to me
Asked in sincerity.
In the first few games of this year, we saw some poor line play from people like Jonathon Scott and Trai Essex. Some of us criticized them, suggesting they were going to get our QB killed if they continued to play, and we received a vibe back from some of the Old Guard round these parts that we were being unfair or unkind or even Un-Steelerfan-like (shudder).
Now I find myself scratching my head how it’s ok to call for the head of Kemo, when Scott was sancrosanct earlier this year.
Don’t get me wrong. I realize he does some seriously dumb things, and I am altogether fine with upgrading G through the draft. But only eight weeks ago he was still being called our
third best lineman. In contrast to Scott, he has been with us a long time.
So, my question is: why is it ok to kick Kemo now when so many gave Scott a pass earlier this year? Want to understand what the differentiator is here.
Kemo vs. Scott?
I did not see the game, so I can’t make much of an argument. But….
However, Scott’s sin was to play poorly (and man, he literally had DE’s running circles around him.)
Everyone is saying that Kemo played poorly AND got flagged for stupid penalties. As I understand it, his penalties nullified some important gains.
by Hombre de Acero on Dec 10, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
3 3rd down conversions
He kills drives. He’s great at it.
I think he’s probably being paid by the other team.
But his technique is so poor in pass-pro that he HAS to hold people. On his 3rd hold on the Redman FB run he turns left and the rusher cuts right. It’s retarded when your run is to the right you push towards the center, force the guy left.
Instead Kemo retardedly holds, when simply letting him into the backfield at this point is no problem when Redman took a quick handoff and is already past the marker.
Just stupid.
Everyone is saying that Kemo played poorly AND got flagged for stupid penalties.
He got penalized three times, and on each of them, his penalty either negated a big gain, or he didn’t stop the guy from hitting Ben anyway.
by Neal Coolong on Dec 11, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
thats what kills me
if you are going to hold the very least you can do is keep your man from taking a shot on your QB
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Dec 11, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
I think you'd have to ask Kemoeatu what happened
If I was ever calling Kemoeatu our third-best lineman (which really doesn’t say much in an of itself), then I apologize.
Typically, when you see a player drop off as far as he has, it’s due to injury. Maybe he’s still hurt. Either way, though, his play is not at an acceptable level. We’re not the only ones noticing this, either, the only reason he was in the game is because Pouncey got hurt (Legursky to center, Kemoeatu into LG).
Scott’s situation was a bit different. He wasn’t playing at a high level, and Roethlisberger didn’t communicate the play changes at the line very well. Scott was also hurt. Starks came in, and played at a high level. Scott then stays on the bench. Kemoeatu wasn’t yanked because of an injury. He was flat-out replaced.
by Neal Coolong on Dec 11, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Didm't Momma say something about arthritis
Maybe it was her or someone else. Arthritis can be extremely painful. It may be he just is in pain every play and isn’t able to concentrate properly or is unable to do things he used to be able to do.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Dec 12, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
It was me,
and it is the cause in the swelling he’s been having in his knees since training camp.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Dec 12, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
You're a Generous Soul
Some idiot Browns fan decided to taunt 85 Steeler fans in a restroom. I asked the guy if he ever heard of General Custer before I advised a cop that he had 30 seconds to prevent a bludgeoning. I go annually to the Steelers game in Cleveland, and there is no amount of alcohol that could make me that stupid.
That does sound dumb. But it speaks well of you that you intervened.
by Hombre de Acero on Dec 10, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions
Some other thoughts on the game
I’m not a fan of the NFL network. I resent the fact that once every year I have to go to a bar and listen to a bunch of drunken asshole Browns fans all night long. However, it was well-produced – the director seemed to have a camera catch every little thing. It was a very cool viewing experience.
Pouncy is just as stubborn and tough as Ben.
Trainers run up to him on the field. “C’mon, man, your leg is all messed up. It’s time to take a seat.”
Pouncy: “Nope-nope-nope-nope.”
Two minutes later:
Trainers: “C’mon, man. It’s time to come out. Look, I think we can see a bit of bone sticking out down there.”
Pouncy: “Nope-nope-nope-nope.”
Kemo, I don’t hate you like many others, and I believe that you are a better option than some scrub off of a practice squad, but I get tired of seeing you shake that Easter Island-sized head of yours in disbelief whenever you get called for an obvious penalty. If you accept that you screwed up, you might be able to learn from it.
As much as I respect Charlie Batch as a person, I think that he cannot be relied upon to be a viable back-up. The entire offense just seemed to wilt when he came on the field.
One the other hand, the defense stepped up big after Ben went down. I can guarantee that they were telling each other, “It’s on us now. The game’s on our shoulders.” They came up big and ensured a victory.
Maybe it’s just because we always beat him, but Colt McCoy just seems adorable. I say we pick him up as a our back-up quarterback after Cleveland cuts him. He’s definitely better than Batch or Dixon, and Cleveland is probably just going to break him then run him out of town.
Just a great game to watch. The emotion from the crowd just poured out over me when Ben re-entered the game. I still feel like I’m riding a wave of positive energy.
The hopes
and dreams of a return to the Super Bowl just had to be carted into the locker room, so I think we can excuse the lack of enthusiasm/execution from the offense.
by pistil_stamen on Dec 11, 2011 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
Well
the defense is a different story. I recall the Steelers beating the tar out of Tennessee last year while passing for like 27 yards.
by pistil_stamen on Dec 12, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
Great commentators
I honestly found those two commentators to be the least annoying ever.
They were quite on the spot with the calls, didn’t dumb it down too much, and frankly were non-biased and honest. They echoed most of our sentiments throughout the game and were a refreshing change over d-bags like Aikman and Gruden
Mayock knows his stuff
and Brad Nessler is a very good play-by-play guy
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Dec 11, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I absolutely love listening to Mayock
He’s great on draft stuff and equally equipped to call games
Go big or go home!!
by average joe blow on Dec 12, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
McCoy is adorable, he looks like a chihuahua wearing a helmet
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by stillergorillar on Dec 12, 2011 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
Remember all the staph infections that Browns players were getting a few years ago?
Including the one and only, LeCharles Bentley?
Even if it was the hospital/clinic that the Browns were affiliated with that was to blame for the players’ exposure to staph and not the team’s actual medical/training staff, the Browns kind of have a history of medical messes.
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Cleveland
Cleveland is just like a time machine to the 1940s where diseases have not been cured and medical knowledge is abysmal.
How Cleveland clinic is rated like in the top 3 in the country is mind bottling. I was there once, place is creepy as hell at night. Feels like Silence of the Lambs cells…
Cleveland is a place that just tries its best to crush
with it’s depression
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Dec 11, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
you could pay me $125 million over six years and I still wouldn't want to live in Cleveland
Go big or go home!!
by average joe blow on Dec 12, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
whatever
my question would be would I have live there permenantly for the rest of my life?
The majority of my life?
Or just for the 6 years have a house in Cleveland.
With 125 million I’d buy a small house in cleveland for show and live somewhere else and just fly to Cleveland when I’m needed.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Dec 12, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Well there you go
You could be the Mayor of Winnipeg though the job doesn’t pay that much. Our mayor likes Phoenix IIRC.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Dec 12, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
the job would have to pay a lot lol
but if I was the mayor I’d fel obligated to stay near in the city i represent
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Dec 12, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
that was a LeBron joke I stole from How I Met Your Mother
(slightly modified to fit this scenerio)
Go big or go home!!
by average joe blow on Dec 12, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
cool
it sounded like a lebron joke, thats who I thought of anyway
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Dec 12, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
The Refs
I hate em and they stank! I always feel like Hochulesus is tryin to make up for SB40. Especially after his little confession that he blew a few calls, its like for him to sleep at night he has to screw us over.
That was one of the most one sided officiated games I’ve ever seen. I would say pretty much all the calls on our O were legit, false starts and holds and whatnot.
But all the calls on our D were just bogus. The two overturned calls were in my opinion really bad. The catch was a catch, and Wallace, well I don’t know that his knee fully touched the ground, do the blades of grass count?
Anyway good teams survive that type of BS.
SB 40
Leavy, not Hochuli. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XL#Officials
But I agree with the calls Thursday, they were all over the place. Maybe Kemo kept them too busy to pay attention elsewhere.
by 57_Varieties on Dec 11, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Kemo's second holding call was bogus
as far as I could tell.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Dec 12, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Those who think that the Steelers offense was inept should consider that Kapinos punted exactly one time in the game when Big Ben was quarterback (three more times with Batch).
They did turn the ball over twice…Personally, I’d rather punt than fumble.
Yes, he has a legitimate argument that McCoy turned into a running back and previously scrambled the exact same way for a touchdown (though overturned). And yes, you can’t slow up if a guy at the last split second tosses the ball, turning himself back into a quarterback (the old QB-RB-QB switcheroo), but the helmet to helmet thing will cost him.
Well said. Harrison’s right, McCoy turned himself into a runner, but he’ll be fined because the rules clearly state it’s on the defender to peel off if the running QB goes to the ground or releases the ball, and if he fails to do that, it’s a penalty.
Interesting that Hochuli blew it again by calling roughing the QB when it was more accurate to say helmet -to-helmet on a defenseless player without the ball.
Per the rule book, technically, Harrison roughed the passer. That rule trumps the defenseless player rules. It’s under the same set of rules as when a QB goes to the ground.
Hochuli actually once said “the result is a better result”
That was almost as funny as when Mayock held off on dropping an F-bomb talking about how tough Harrison is. I like the fact Hochuli at least tries to explain the situation. He’s the only official who does that.
…He also declared that there was no grounding, then called grounding on McCoy, when actually McCoy’s knee was down before either the grounding or no grounding. It was wrong on top of wrong on top of wrong…
Yeah, after all that, it was a sack. He looked to be well outside the pocket to me.
I like the fact Hochuli at least tries to explain the situation. He’s the only official who does that.
Mike Carey will on occasion too, but the rest couldn’t be bothered to try.
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by barnerburner on Dec 11, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather Punt than Fumble"
Yes, yardage-wise, punting is always better than a fumble, but schematically for an offense, punting means that your plays didn’t work. On both fumbles, the plays worked very well, then the fumbles occurred. You can’t plan for that offensively (though you can commit to better ball control). I was thinking in terms of the Steelers offense, they weren’t stopped (except for the goal-line stand), they really stopped themselves, thus hardly punting…(hope that makes sense)…
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
I still can't believe they overturned the Brown catch.
There was no evidence to overturn the call on the field. Unless they had a ground cam that we were all aware of.
Regarding the idiot Browns fan taunting 85 Steeler fans.
You apparently have a much higher resistance to alcohol than many other people. I’ve seen drunken fans do things during Steeler games that are virtually impossible to believe, had I not witnessed them with my very own eyes. Here are only a couple of choice examples:
1) Fan waiting in a long line to the Mens room decides he can’t wait any longer and takes a wizz right on the ground so now everyone is standing in his urine.
2) Little runt of a guy sitting in front of me and my two friends wants to pick a fight just because we asked him to sit down and stop blocking our view. I’m the skinny guy of our trio at 6-2, 195. One of my friends is 6-1, 295 and the other one is 6-5, 350. Both are mild mannered, thank God, because either one could probably have tossed this little banty rooster out to about the 50 yard line.
It has become almost impossible to attend a Steeler home game these days and not see one version or another of this kind of thing. That’s why I only go to the stadium once or twice per season. In the old days, people normally just drank during the game, but today they arrive bombed and then proceed to get fall-down, shit-faced. Not exactly a wholesome, family atmosphere.
thats too bad
Something I have wanted to do for a long time, is see a home Steelers game. I figured the folks at Heinz, were a little classier than the rest of the league.
by steeler fever on Dec 12, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sad day when you can't enjoy a Steeler game at Heinz, because of a Steeler fan
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Browns Concussion test
Trainer: Are you Batman?
McKoy: Why, yes, I am the Dark Knight.
Trainer: Get back in there then Batman the Joker is getting away.
I love the Steelers.
Bwaaaahaaaaaahahaha
That was awesome.
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by OhioYinzer on Dec 12, 2011 3:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hochuli,
or however you spell his stupid name, seems to overturn at least one Steeler play every time he officiates one of their games. It is usually exactly like the Brown catch, in that everyone believes the play will stand including the announcers and then Hochy cocky comes out and blows everyone away with his overturning the call on the field. He is a poohead.
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 12, 2011 8:18 AM EST reply actions
with Hochy it ain't his nose. Something else actually grows in its place.
He took two big catches away from us. A poohead indeed! I think he is on the roids, do they drug test NFL officials?
by steeler fever on Dec 12, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Hines is looking like he's done ...
No one wants to say this, but if Hines can’t catch 1-yard smoke screen routes and not fumble then why put him on the field? Cotchery is playing a lot better than Ward right now and I am a big Hines Ward guy. It’s not much of an argument with Sanders being out right now, but whenever Sanders ever come back healthy, the Steelers staff will have some decisions to make.
- If Ben can’t move at all, then I’d sit him this week and try to win a game with Batch/Dixon. Even if this team need every win right now, you still have to look at the big picture with your $100M QB. High ankle sprains are no joke. And from what I saw of Batch the other night, I am probably more in favor of playing Dennis Dixon rather than Batch.
- If Kemo sees the field again this season, someone in the Steelers organization should be tarred and feathered. He has reached that point where he’s more of a hindrance than a help. You’ve got to either give Meredith, Essex or the two guys on the practice squad a shot. Not saying here that Kemo is a little slow in the brain, but I do believe his I.D. card is a picture of a rock.
- Gunslingers sometimes get shot, Tomlin says, but Ben has to get rid of the ball to stop taking so many hellacious hits. I hoped that marraige would maybe change that style a little bit (have him think of the future after football a little bit and how great it would be to still be able to walk and chew on his own) but he keeps taking those shots. If we had better backups than Batch and Dixon, then maybe that would be less important. But if Ben is lost, then all is lost for this season.
by datruth4life2.0 on Dec 12, 2011 1:01 PM EST reply actions
I would not...
wait until after Christmas to tell Kemo to take a hike. He would probably hold Santa and give an elf illegal hands to the face.
Get him the hell out of here. I hate seeing his smashed up face in that helmut every time he gets another stupid penalty.
Great post Mary rose!
Living in Ohio I can totally understand how absolutely ridiculous Browns fans can be. The word insufferable comes to mind. It has gotten to the point that I do not even bother trying to an intelligent football conversation with most of the browns fans I know. Inevitably turns into vitriolic had speech directed at BB and a whole lot of name calling … on their part of course.
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by OhioYinzer on Dec 12, 2011 4:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeesh
Stupid auto correct…..
Should be vitriolic hate speech.
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