Goodell Will Change The Face of The League If He Suspends Harrison
by Neal Coolong on Dec 13, 2011 9:31 AM EST
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PrintFrom a historical context, neither NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, nor the league itself, has precedent to suspend Steelers LB James Harrison for his helmet-to-helmet hit on Browns QB Colt McCoy.
Word on Harrison's punishment - which some have speculated a suspension is coming - is expected today.
Two players have been suspended for on-the-field actions under Goodell. Buccaneers DT Albert Haynesworth was suspended for five games after he stomped on the head of Ravens OL Andre Gurode when Haynesworth was with the Titans and Gurode was with the Cowboys. Gurode wasn't wearing a helmet, and suffered severe lacerations to his head. He missed the rest of the season and Haynesworth was thrown out of the game.
On Thanksgiving, the world witnessed Lions DT Ndamukong Suh stomp on the arm of Packers OL Evan Dietrich-Smith after shoving his head into the ground in a post-whistle altercation. Suh was also thrown out of the game along with his 15-yard penalty.
One doesn't need code breaking experience to see the common theme. Cowardly actions in a post-whistle environment that led to the removal of the player from the game.
No one is comparing the gutless actions of Haynesworth and Suh to that of Harrison - or at least if they are, it's because they don't want to see the differences. Suspending Harrison would mean the league is putting him in the same light as those two.
That's categorically false. But if he is suspended, it wouldn't be the first time Goodell established his own precedent for his own reasons. NFL life before Week 6 of 2010 was completely different than it was after it. After a few notable helmet-to-helmet hits, two from Harrison, Goodell began his fundraising campaign.
Changing the rules on the fly, Goodell decided to use Harrison as his main target in his war against the rules of his own league. In a week where he sought brutal financial justice for two helmet-to-helmet hits from Harrison, the league was selling an image of one of those hits on its web site.
They liked the image so much, it was the photo they used to tease their full line of pictures they were selling. It wasn't until someone pointed out the hypocrisy they took them down.
Obviously Goodell does not personally approve which photos the league would put up for sale, but even more obvious is the reasoning behind why whomever chose it. That's the culture within the league. It's obvious to those selecting the pictures that would be the best one to use.
Goodell wanted to change that, and made moves toward that new culture, but didn't inform the league's employees, including the players, until after it happened. Closing the barn door after the horses have escaped doesn't make sense.
Yet, he's doing it again.
A suspension in this case opens the league up to a level of regulatory involvement no sport has ever seen. They have as must justification to suspend Harrison as they do to suspend at least one player on every team this season.
That will, without question, change the league. Imagine the current culture is in place last year. Had the Bears defeated the Packers in the NFC Championship Game, how does Goodell justify not suspending Bears DE Julius Peppers for the Super Bowl? The hit he put on Aaron Rodgers was considerably worse than what Harrison did to McCoy.
What are the odds of something like that happening in the playoffs this year? What if the Ravens are hosting the Steelers for the AFC Championship Game and Goodell suspends Terrell Suggs for a hit that only used to garner a fine?
Most will try to suggest Harrison is a "repeat offender." He seems more like a "repeat accused." The league has successfully painted him as a bad buy; the league's ultimate heel character. It all stems from Week 6 of 2010. What people choose to ignore is the fact Harrison - unlike several other players in the league, including Ray Lewis, Cullen Jenkins and Dunta Robinson - has not been flagged or fined for anything either the game officials or the league view as a "dirty hit."
Harrison Haters will be shocked to read this, but, Harrison has actually been the most compliant player in all of this. He successfully changed the way he played. He wasn't happy about it (and a litany of comments aimed at Goodell this offseason supports that assessment), but he fell in line.
Robinson's done the same thing more often, and he's not being suspended. Richard Seymour just punched yet another player in an on-field incident, he was fined $30,000. That's his third fine this season alone.
A suspension now only shows Goodell is acting out of emotion. He's making it personal, and in doing that, he's ignoring historical precedent. He didn't like or appreciate Harrison's negative comments about him and he's been calculating his payback ever since.
But that's off the field stuff. Goodell suspends people all the time for off the field stuff. On the field? Stomp on someone after having received several fines and penalties for dirty play is the current grounds for suspension. Those are obvious. Hit a guy in the head, it's 25 grand. But now, Goodell has his patsy right where he wants him. He gets his own double-victory; message sent to the players that he's still in control of them, and personal revenge on Harrison, the guy he profits from while using him as his regulatory guinea pig. He can offer up Harrison as a sacrifice in his attempt to display concern for the health of players when the league will ultimately be sued by this generation of players for the amount of concussions they sustained in their careers.
Goodell created the "repeat offender" stigma, and has no issue with the media running with the phrase.
What's bogus about that is "repeat offender" is the NFL's Scarlet Letter. If he's a repeat offender, at what point do we enter conversations about statutes of limitations? How many games will the league force players to compete with the sword of Damocles hanging over their heads?
Maybe not "players." Maybe just "Harrison."
A player who was fined at the start of Goodell's campaign, but hasn't been fined since then should not be suspended while players who have multiple offenses well after the campaign began aren't hearing the word. The league even rescinded a large portion of the fines Harrison received last year, noting he was playing the game the "correct" way. He hasn't been flagged or fined or any similar offense all season, and he's hit the quarterback plenty often.
Goodell's personal vendetta will become policy with the suspension of Harrison, and fans across the league - not just Steelers fans - should be outraged.
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Good article
Thanks for the write up!
by Steelgator on Dec 13, 2011 9:48 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great write-up...
…and I can just feel the wrath of II Duce Goodell coming down on Harrison, as you’ve aptly outlined.
For all the angst and gnashing of teeth this will cause in Steeler Nation, in the end, there are far too many non-Steeler fans to believe any type of fan action (boycott, letter/email writing campaign, etc) to the League or to its main advertisers, will have any type of impact.
What I would propose is such actions be directed to the 32 Player Team reps to the Players union, with the message: This time its a Steeler player; next time it could be one (or more) of yours – when are you going to stand up and do something?
Thanks for putting into words the trepidation I feel, and I believe most of Steeler Nation feels. Now, all we can do is wait…
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Dec 13, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think your focus on collective action
strikes the right note. It won’t work otherwise, and despite the fact that the lockout was NOT popular, it was about, among other things, the right to bargain collectively, and for the players to have a say in the way the game is played, and also, how discipline policies work.
I am honestly not sure if Goodell is aware of his hypocrisy, and tendency towards double standards. He certainly has not played it smartly from a PR perspective, and has to realize that being inconsistent severely undermines his credibility. This gives my Niners an advantage six days from now, but it’s clearly a BS call, and not the way in which we would want to win, facing a PIT team potentially missing 3 of its 4 most important players.
Then again, maybe Goodell is just a Cleveland fan. That’s the team where Harrison keeps getting into trouble…
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am so mad I can barely think about this BS anymore!!!
It’s hard for me to express how PI$$ED OFF I am over this…..and no one cares but us…SMDH and that makes me even madder!!! I’d punch that SOB in his nuts if I ever met him in person and to hell with the assault charge! We must do something or this is never going to stop!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 9:54 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I believe that would net you a $15,000 fine
No suspension, though. Richard Seymour punches people all the time and he still dresses each week.
by Neal Coolong on Dec 13, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No problem with a fine
You could tell by Harrison’s body language after the hit, that he knew he f’d up. I don’t think he would argue a fine. Suspensions should be reserved for situations where a player goes out of there way to commit a personal foul. If Harrison’s hit came three or four steps after McCoy unloaded the ball, maybe we could talk suspension.
by Greig Clawson on Dec 13, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
+1
No one can argue McCoy had tucked the ball and was running. That makes him a runner. At the last nanosecond he turned back into a passer and got rid of the ball.
Poor technique on Harrison’s part, and according to the rules, the onus is on the defender to pull up and not hit the quarterback. A justified penalty and fine. Not a suspension.
Just look at what the guys who’ve been suspended did. What Harrison did happens every week. He can’t just decide now to play the suspension card, not with the fact he went 14 weeks worth of games where this happened and no suspension was given.
It’s personal.
by Neal Coolong on Dec 13, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But when U run your head is IN FRONT of your body and momentum
is carrying u forward…they have less than a split second to make an adjustment….I do not think it was intentional….fine him yes but a suspension….c’mon that’s crazy talk!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea Dick is a real piece of work isn't he!!!
Hell I’d pay the fine…it would be so worth it!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In my STEW I almost forget to mention: nice write up Neal:)
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like Seymour
I think he’s a beast, a throwback, and plays the game 100% all the time.
But the punching people thing is weird, needs to be addressed, and the lack of any meaningful response to his punching people is weirder.
I think the double standard that the league has with the Steelers on this issue is becoming more and more undeniable, and while I DO think Harrison needs to refrain from leading with the helmet, he has a legitimate case as the most overfined and penalized individual in the league. This is a BS suspension, and I say that knowing that it might keep Alex Smith safe. So, other teams agree with you guys on this issue, is what I am saying.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It will NOT keep Alex Smith safe.
Things actually got a little more scarier for Smith. And that’s with Harrison on the sideline.
I’m not a jerk…but I hope the carts come out for ’Niner players…all as a result of indisputable legal, clean hits.
Oh…and every hurt player gets cleared to play the following week. :)
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by Fifty-Eight on Dec 13, 2011 4:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I like the optimism
But with BR, Pouncey, and Harrison ALL potentially out…this could be a tough game for either side to win, and this Niners team is a LOT more physical than previous versions.
In what way are Worilds and that other guy with the hamstring, the one who ISN’T Woodley (carter?) scary for Smith?
Any word on Woodley, btw? I hope he plays. Even though I DO want the Niners to win, I love that guy…and the flying sidekick.
Every player on the Steelers offense should exhale a little if Willis does not play Monday night. That guy is frightening.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Dec 14, 2011 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
he is
saying it got scarrier because the “us against the world” thing just got kicked into high gear, I believe
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 14, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it looks like Woodley will give it a go. Hopefully with plenty of sacks and NO “flying sidekicks”
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 14, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel the opposite way
I love Woodley. I don’t want him sacking Smith though.
Contrary to many though, I love the flying sidekick- it makes me crack up every single time, and I dislike most sack celebrations.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Dec 14, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Reign of terror is coming
And I don’t mean by Goodell. If Harrison is suspended, you can book your tickets to Indy right now. The fines against Harrison fueled the Steelers D last season. It became “us vs. the league”. If Harrison is forced to miss games, the D will hold him up as a martyr, and impose their own reign of terror on the rest of the league.
by Greig Clawson on Dec 13, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Witch Hunt
Goodell is going to end up being the commish who ruined football. Being that I live in Ohio, I often watch ball games in a room full of Browns fan. Last years game was no different. Following each of Deebo’s hits in that Browns game, Not one of almost a dozen Brown fan called for a flag. As a matter of fact, following the second hit on the receiver Brown fan was complaining about the flag on the field, thinking it was against Harrison. Imagine that Brown fan angry because he thought the flag was for the hit, and relieved when the foul was actually on the Browns! These are die hard Browns fans and even they realize Goodell ruining the game with his skirt policy. If he suspends Harrison the NFL will lose my money, I’ll never buy another peice of NFL apparel again. F Goodell
by Ohio Steeler on Dec 13, 2011 10:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you.
And remember……
Bill Belichick CHEATED AT FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I blame ESPN
It seems to me that espn is carrying the banner for his suspension. No one else was talking suspension until they did. NFL network post-game anylists spoke of fines until sportscenter started trumpeting suspension. Even Peter King wrote that it would be difficult for the league to suspend due to the gray area surrounding run/pass, but there was espn all weekend long with the fake outrage at his “repeat-offender” status.
"We'll continue to search for the ceiling"
by jacksteel on Dec 13, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
U know what I can't even watch those donkey's anymore on ESPN!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I find it funny ESPN is so against what happened. He’d be suspended for a Monday Night game, and after last night’s borderline depressingly poor game, you’d think they’d want as many superstars as they could get.
by Neal Coolong on Dec 13, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but
it gives them plenty of story line to work with in the lead up
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I have not..
watched ESPN in years and I have a rough time stomaching NFL Network
by Bradhaw's index finger on Dec 13, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions
I have to agree with you Mate!!!
And now they have an NFL Magazine that they want us to buy….Um your station sucks why would I want to read your stupid magazine!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know I'm in the vast minority on this and I'll get roasted for this opinion but.....
in my opinion, Harrison clearly broke the rules with that hit and now he has to face the punishment that the judge and jury decide upon. Is it right that Goodell is the judge, jury and executioner in this case? Hell no, but that’s the screwed up system that the NFL has chosen to employ.
Maybe I’ve been on the wrong side of law enough times to accept the fact that when someone screws up, the result and punishment for that screwup is out of their hands. Sometimes that punishment will be unfair and sometimes the system will purposely make an example out of you, but when you cross the line you have to be ready to pay the price for crossing that line.
I’ll certainly be upset if Harrison is suspended and I personally think a fine should be the extent of his punishment, but I also acknowledge that the hit warrants some measure of punishment and unfornately Goodell has the only voice in deciding said punishment. Now if we want to have a discussion on how this system can be overhauled in the future (such as a seperate third party committee soley focused on rule enforcement), then I think that’s a much more beneficial conversation.
Go big or go home!!
by average joe blow on Dec 13, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
what i'll say about it is this...
he clearly had time to pull up…… but I think having our QB injured has a subc. effect on his decision….
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
You're not saying anything anyone else hasn't said here...
…and Neal’s piece says, in essence, “the punishment should fit the crime” – but goes on to point out that suspension DOES NOT fit the crime.
There is debate whether this is a fineable offense, if you adhere to the “McCoy was a runner” theory, which has been debated elsewhere.
So, don’t fear any roasting forks, at least from me.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Dec 13, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I don't understand the "let's go get Goodell" sentiment
Who put him in charge and gave him all this power? If the players really had such a problem with this system, why was that a major sticking point in the new CBA? I don’t remember hearing anything about trying to change that.
The way I see it, he broke the rules, he lives with the punsishment. End of story.
Go big or go home!!
by average joe blow on Dec 13, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The other 31 teams gave him the ultimate power
the Steelers were the only ones to vote against it, IIRC, because it gave Goodell ultimate power. He did break the rules, but this punishment does not fit the crime, when there are so many other examples of far worse happening and nothing being done—either flags in game, or fines/suspensions
Things can always be worse....
by ncmt40 on Dec 13, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But didn't the players as a union also agree to the CBA
It seems like Goodell having all this unchecked power effects them more than the owners, why didn’t they stand up as a union?
Go big or go home!!
by average joe blow on Dec 13, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To have a season is the only thing I can think of
I think one all was said and done, they still had to have a vote with a majority to approve the CBA. And the Steelers voted against it because of the ultimate power thing.
Things can always be worse....
by ncmt40 on Dec 13, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Then who's fault is that?
The players agreed to this system.
Go big or go home!!
by average joe blow on Dec 13, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed, they did
but the Steelers took a stand against it. Oh, well, it is what it is whether we like it or not
Things can always be worse....
by ncmt40 on Dec 13, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
On a seperate note...
Am I the only one sick of hearing hour by hour play by play of two child molesters on ESPN?… like to take both of them out back the barn like a lame dog…
And is it just me who finds it some what offensive to have “God” brought into football through some media hype of a certain QB?.. I was raised a good catholic, but must of missed the classes in route to communion and conformation where god wants you to have faith for personal fiscal gain or accomplishment….
And I find the media, and there intial condemnation, and now praise ( as if he was the mesiah of football) even more distastefull…. I see this morning even our good friend Merril Hoge has recanted….
No issues whatsoever
With a young man glorifying God. If that’s the worst thing that happens on my TV I’ll be better off. I have never gotten the impression that he was doing anything for personal gain, but it is nice to see someone being thankful when personal gain is achieved.
In a Look-at-me league, it is nice to see someone divert the spotlight so brightly shining on them to something more important. Just MHO.
Iron sharpeneth iron... Proverbs 27:17
by steeldawg on Dec 13, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Leave Tebow out of this thread please.
Make another one if you want to put pork fat into a thread that has not a luck to do with Tebow.
And if you want his take on mentioning God, look no further than his very well spoken response having to do with the comparison of a wife and how he’d speak of her.
I’m as sick or sicker of hearing him put down as you are having it shoved in your face by the media.
Oh…I forgot. You CHOOSE to watch sports channels & read sports publications/papers. My bad.
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by Fifty-Eight on Dec 13, 2011 4:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm with you.
Never has a QB gotten so much press for doing so little. Granted he’s won a lot of games which is a novelty in Denver, but I can’t get past the part where he SUCKS for the first 50+ minutes of every game and then is supposedly great because he can run a comeback. You want to know true horror? I live in Denver and have to listen to all the local sports guys gush over him constantly too. That horses arse Woody Paige even went so far today to say that the winner of NE and Denver would go to the SB this year! Granted some of it was tongue in cheek and he’s been cracked since birth, but come on already. I’m completely torn – my hatred for the Pats vs a part of me that wants them to beat Denver by 70 points. Maybe I can be happy with the latter as long as both sides beat the hell out of each other.
As for the other topic that fills ESPN – enough already! I don’t want to hear another word about those creeps except when they are sentenced. Maybe not even that part of the news.
by lkwdsteel on Dec 14, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
HARRISON SUSPENDED ONE GAME!!!!!!!
Just so pissed about this…….Breaking on ESPN now
by ToonaSteel on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I blame
the talking heads, with all of their blather they had to suspend him. The letter writing must start now, and examples of other players with histories that haven’t been suspended need to be included.
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
is this a case of the Tail wagging the Dog here??
Media dictating the decision pathway of the NFL?
by ToonaSteel on Dec 13, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think
it is that far fetched. When the mob starts chanting they usually get their way. It doesn’t hurt that, as Neal had stated, it allows the Goodell to exact revenge on Harrison.
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
And Goodell is a master at allowing those in the media to rile up the masses and then riding of the semtiment built up. Goodell is damaging the NFL is ways that are incalculable and far reaching. A fine for Harrison, maybe, a suspension…… is not the right decision, in my opinion.
by Ravens One on Dec 13, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
im with you....
I disagree with the decision…. just another step ruining the game of football….
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
If Goodell has his way...
few more years it will be NFL flag football…
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
After that flag against Redskins, b/c they tackled miss brady to avoid a first down, the no fun league is naked.
And in that line Harrison will be suspended to avoid to be too close to miss brady, WTF in the World better miss brady send gisele to play, and maybe, maybe that will be their next move.
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
by YeOldeMexFan on Dec 13, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Shefter is reporting a 1 game suspension…
"Fly Eagles fly..."
"Only the Lord saves more than Bernie..."
by 92-74-99-96 on Dec 13, 2011 10:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions
WTF!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
bung
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
yea but he's so WELCOMED here and we don't want to hurt his wittle feelings...
He needs to go away for a while!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Here Here....
Rec’d
He just needs to go away…..go dwell in the cave at the BB
An “educated” troll is still a troll
by ToonaSteel on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
what I’ll be saying when Rivers wipes your Ravens up this weekend
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Suggs or Lewis could be next...
…to paraphrase Franklin, “if we don’t stand together, we’ll hang separately”.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And Suggs and Lewis
know that very well. Harbaugh may have been pontificating about how “clean” his team plays, but Suggs was speaking up for Harrison.
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Dec 13, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but Suggs was speaking up for Harrison.
I saw this. Goodell is a freaking nut job.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Dec 13, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh are we back tracking now??? u said "good" earlier!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
It was just to piss you guys off, and of course I a happy to see him suspended, it hurts your team and gives Baltimore an even better chance at winning the AFCN. That doesn’t mean I agree with the suspension, but trust me, it isn’t ruining my day like it is most of yours.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Really...well let me jump on over to your BB and see what u have to say
over there cause u back tracking on here once u saw u were being told to “cool it”…u did a 180 my bloodymore neighbor and u know it!! Man up!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
well let me jump on over to your BB and see what u have to say
Haven’t even seen anyone talking about it yet, and I have not even brought it up.
cause u back tracking on here once u saw u were being told to "cool it"
Not really, that was my honest response to the situation. Goodell is a douche, I don’t need to buddy buddy up with anyone here. Harrison is a POS and deserves this suspension, is that what you rather hear?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
u are such a baby but I'm sure u already know that...SMDH!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Cool stuff.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
leave Joe alooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnne!!!!
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Who the hell's interrupting my Kung Fu? - Black Dynamite
With two D's, for a double dose of this pimpin'
But Why??? Because he's a baby???
I’m old enough to be his mom for god’s sake and if I cannot call him a baby then who can???
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know. If you insult average Joe Falcco she pops a gasket over it. If you’re not familiar with Chris Crocker and his “leave Brittany alone” video, youtube it. Then picture that as Malor and substitute “Joe” for “Brittany”
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Oh okay I get it...LOL!!!
Yea she does seem to go off about Joe when she thinks Joe is insulted…Ha Ha…and I like Joe and I certainly wouldn’t call any player on their team a POS…not even Ngata for breaking Ben’s nose…I might call them FUGLY…especiallly Suggs cause he is one FUGLY Mo Fo…it’s all good…I got the baby’s number and that’s all that matters.
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
How yo getz my numba?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
This cracks me up
Every time you say it.
It should be.
You are obviously not a football fan. Just a Ravens fan. This is bad for the league going forward. And all you can think is, “This helps my Ravens!”
The same Ravens who, despite sweeping the series between us this year, are in no way in the clear for the division title with 3 games to play. How does that even happen, trollboy?
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by Fifty-Eight on Dec 13, 2011 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not now MaLoR
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
Get off your high horse.
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by John Stephens on Dec 13, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
You have to admit that deep down you think this is completely fucking bogus. This isn’t just an attack on Harrison by Goodell, its an attack on hard hitting football in general.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 13, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
he doesn't care...u should see the Ravens fans at my job right now...SMDH!!!
you’d think WWII had just ended or something….WTF!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, he does get unfair treatment. Do I think he needs to regulate himself? Yea, sort of. But I highly doubt any other player in the league would have this happen to them.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
its because Harrison spoke down to “the big dog” and Goodell wanted to set a precedent, so he used Harrison to get back at him. How many of Harrison’s hits last year even deserved flags or fines? And why suspend someone when they seemingly started tackling players without H2H but his first slip up and he drops the hammer on him. Its like he was waiting for him to mess up.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 13, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think Goodell didn’t like hearing that Harrison wouldn’t piss on him if his hair was on fire.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Goodell should know the truth hurts
oh wait…
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I don’t see why not, unless Goodell is into that kind of thing….
Water would be a much better substitute for piss. But what ever floats Goodell’s boat hahah.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 14, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Your birds
needed to get a home playoff someday. With the probable loss to SD this weekend the league decided to give SF a hand in beating the Steelers to keep the birds ahead in the Conference ;)
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by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
As someone who grew up in SF
during the 80’s, when they were the best team on the planet…and watched their recent decade of futility…and is not excited by the promise they have shown this season…and is excited about the upcoming MNF game…
I think this suspension is completely bogus. If we lose, we lose, but if we win, I want it to be because we took your best shot, and dealt with it like a talented, professional team that wants to win important games.
Having your QB and center being both questionable, and having one of your most important defensive players removed for crap reasons…I’m not gloating. This is ridiculous.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
not=now, btw.
Proofreading, I hear it does magical things…
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ronnie Lott
Would never make it in this environment
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by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Probably true
But the last “illegal” hit we would put on someone, if that were the case, would be Goodell.
Shoot, most of the Hall of Fame wouldn’t make it in this environment.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
most of the Hall of Fame wouldn’t make it in this environment.
You got that right. I think they are paving the way for women to enter the NFL. No offense ladies! I am a gentleman and I wouldn’t hit a lady, much like they can’t a QB.
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by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
we=he
dammit, I still don’t learn to proofread.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Do like me
just roll with the typos lol
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by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
self-acceptane (see what i did there?)
can be a beautiful thin.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
nice
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by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Has it actually came down fromthe NFL?
Seems like a couple of weeks ago, Schefter reported Deebo, IIRC, was going to be fined for a hit. That fine never happened.
Things can always be worse....
heard on maddog radio it's a 1-game suspension
Whatta crock
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by SaratogaSteelerFan on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Wrong league move
and now the Steelers may be without Harrison, Woodley, and Ben for the San Fran game.
and Pouncey
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by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Pouncey?
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by John Stephens on Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Oy
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by John Stephens on Dec 13, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
just beat me to it
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by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
He said he was going to play in the Super Bowl too
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
And Ziggy with his groin
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by PaVaSteeler on Dec 13, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
YEP.....SOB!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I believe
that Harrison can appeal it, and so will be able to play in SF while the decision is being made. That would put him out for the Rams, which is much less problematic.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
They will rush the appeal process
so Goodell can deny the appeal like they did with Suh. This is not professional, it is all personal
Things can always be worse....
Well
there have been “appeals” both rushed, and thought out …. I would be interested to see how the NFL would handle an appeal…. Really would like JH to file law suit… one could make a case though current incident, and fine thru the league that he IS being unfairly singled out….
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
the only recourse
he has is through the union. He can’t sue due to the CBA
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by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
there's has to be precedent for everything....
and as I would like to see change…. even if not favorable… its a step forward in due process for the future, for james and others to follow…
If the CBA unjustly allows prejudice its “blanket” coverage of all players should be scrutinized.
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
there
is verbage in the CBA that doesn’t allow for this. He can appeal to the league, but it wont go any further. The most you can hope for in a union situation is possible arbitration by a third party that is probably also named in the CBA
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Lose appeal, file lawsuit, request an injunction
then drop it next week… lol
The judge and executioner seem to be the same person.. Not going to get appealed.
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"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 13, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Chris Carter and Jason Worilds. Should be interesting trying to stop Gore.
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by John Stephens on Dec 13, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
If by that you mean pathetic, I agree. There’s no way we can hold the edges with those kids.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
Totally disagree!
Carter and Worilds are Steelers. PERIOD. Worlids has more starts at LB on the 10-3 Steelers than most of the regular starters.
They’ll be fine.
Iron sharpeneth iron... Proverbs 27:17
agree.......
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by steeler fever on Dec 14, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
On the Niner's board, the other idiot brother said...
…Gore wasn’t 100% for Monday’s game – we can only hope.
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by PaVaSteeler on Dec 13, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Saw it on the Steelers facebook page
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NEIL, this was a GREAT piece... THANK YOU
The grandfather, Rozelle, takes the business on his shoulders and, by force of will, makes it a great success. The father, Tags, takes the successful business and leaves it an incredible empire.
Then the business comes to the son, who cannot top either man. But he too needs to make a splash, so he does what neither could. He ruins it.
Goodell-ball… Because your life isn’t already regulated enough.
this was a GREAT piece… THANK YOU
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by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
He should appeal that BS
Won’t matter though.
Maybe, Dan Rooney should declare Goodell a terrorist in Ireland.
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
I like it!
Dan Rooney should declare Goodell a terrorist in Ireland.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
now only if we could get Goodell to Ireland
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by count'em_six on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
all we have to do is get him to Pittsburgh
Seriously, dude better not plan any trips to western PA any time soon
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by steely mcballs on Dec 13, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Love to see Godell do that stupid training camp PR visit he did at Latrobe this next year.
Jackhat.
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by Fifty-Eight on Dec 13, 2011 4:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like the idea
If only to stall the suspension till the Rams game
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
When do we start protesting at Heinz Field to get this bastard fired?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM EST reply actions
NFL.com just announced 1 game suspension
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It's official
Was announced on Steelers.com. This is a joke. Obviously not having a fine all year was worth nothing.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
But he's a repeat offender
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by WVPiratesfan on Dec 13, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
so is
Richard Seymour, he has punched someone the last two years. He garnerd expulsion from the game as well as fines, but no suspension for after the play bs.
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I hope every hit the Steelers deliver against the 49ers is in devistating fashion to send a message that pansy ball won't be tolerated.
Can’t suspense them all their not “repeat offenders” except for Clark.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 AM EST reply actions
I vote for the exact opposite. Hold out all the starters and let San Fran score 100 points, since this is what Goodell wants; a high scoring game with no hitting.
maybe… but I still want to win and get in the playoffs and all.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 13, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
You realize that for us
That’s like 34 field goals, right?
David Akers would have to file a complaint with OSHA, for having his labor rights violated…
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
No, every Steeler should go onto the field WITHOUT their helmets...
…and refuse to use them, because the Riddell helmets mandated by the leage are NOT the best ones for protecting the players from H2H hits.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Dec 13, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I bet those helmets are cheap though. GODell would know.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 13, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Roger Goodell better NEVER go to Pittsburgh
"I respect everyone on the football field. But some people I don't like. And some people I dislike even more." - James Harrison
by steely mcballs on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions
Does this mean
that they are going to also suspend the Browns for one game for mishandling a concussion?
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by Rebecca Rollett on Dec 13, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions
They better
Because that was clearly the most villainous act that took place during that game.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
not likely
they will shine light on the “fraternity” …. which further highlights the double standard displayed by NFL management , and lesser degree ownership.
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, they'll keep that one quiet...
…wouldn’t want to make the League’s hypocrisy over H2H so blatant, showing that a team didn’t take proper care. The only “offenders” are the players, like Harrison.
Does not matter that the League (dictatorship) severely limits access to helmets proven to be more effective in protecting the players, than the ones most players are allowed to wear, manufactured by a major contributor to the league, via licensing fees.
Next’s week game, sponsored by Excedrin…“because we care about player safety”.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Dec 13, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Fantastic point Rebecca
I am not a doctor, and I wasn’t there, but just watching it on tv, I felt sorry for the kid, and was appalled when they stuck him back in- I was yelling at the tv “he’s clearly got a concussion, wtf!?!?”
The NFL once again demonstrates its “commitment to player safety”
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
With exception of the Steeler organization....the other 31 teams approved the collective bargaining agreement
The freaking players gave the vile Goodell this power….He has way too much power but….they gave it to him….
What a vile person……..and his puppets Ray Anderson and Merton Hanks should be jobless
that's what I was saying above
If the players had such a problem with Goodell having all this power, why wasn’t this a sticking point in the CBA? They have in a way agreed to and endorsed this system by not trying to change it.
Go big or go home!!
by average joe blow on Dec 13, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Only the Steelers, as a team, bothered to speak out...
…about the absence of any rational process, fine structure, or appeal process, by not ratifying the CBA.
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by PaVaSteeler on Dec 13, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I am shaking my head at this
I can’t wait until three or so years down the line when he’s put another couple pro bowls on the shelf and he retires. I can’t wait until he’s bronze-busted into Canton. I want to hear the induction speech. It’ll be priceless.
I hope he keeps his current level of play up and that rings true
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 13, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I think this is an excellent break down
Last night I got so riled up explaining it to someone else I just had to stop. This is a grave injustice being done to an outstanding player. I think what I am most upset about is the fact that I am powerless to do anything in response.
by ChitownSteelerfan on Dec 13, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions
I'm tired of this debate
The Steelers have one of the top-5 most powerful owners in the NFL. It is time to stand up for your guys Mr. Rooney. Make a statement and condemn Goodell. Stop staying quiet and pretending like the Steelers aren’t being singled out.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Dec 13, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions
What concerns me Neal is a changing of the game
I am all for player safety, but it is so patently obvious that this is not the case at hand that it’s shameful. The whole player safety thing is a complete sham that is propaganda for the league for future law suits, so they can say they did everything in their power to prevent these injuries.
The issue with that is after simple investigation you can see that is not the case at all. There are better helmets available on the market right now, but they aren’t switching to them because they have a lucrative deal with Riddell. Likewise all the the emphasis is on the Defender, and none on the Offense. If a running back initiates H2H contact, there is no issue. If a O or D linemen have contact no problem. it is a slippery slope that we are on right now and I fear that the game I love will cease to exist as the same product in the next decade.
Not sure I keep watching if the defense is removed from the game.
If James Harrison is suspended for that hit, it is a travesty of justice and a tipping point for a weaker NFL.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 13, 2011 11:19 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
+7, and better said than I ranted above
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To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I think player safety is crucial
And, as you eloquently pointed out, that is NOT the NFL’s priority here. It’s ridiculous that they don’t use the safest helmets, merely because they make more money with their current contract. You are a BILLION dollar enterprise- protect the necks and brains of the warriors who make your product viable.
Also, protect positions other than just the QB; especially lineman, who do a lot of head-banging, and running backs, again, as you stated above, making the point better than I have.
I don’t even have a huge problem with trying to make the game safer- people will say it is sissifying it, but the dudes who play in todays NFL are way bigger, faster, and stronger than they were a decade ago, and the impact is exponentially higher.
It’s the hypocrisy that bothers me, and it SHOULD bother the other 31 teams too, as well as their fans.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
The Hypocrisy
IS the issue. I can’t stomach this.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 13, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody will want to hear this
But Harrison played this very poorly. Instead of either not commenting or saying the HTH contact was an involuntary act while tackling a ball carrier, he went and said he did not deserve any reprimand and did nothing wrong. That shows no contrition or understanding of the rules. I know it was a bang-bang play and that he had little chance to pull up, but you have to be smarter when facing reprimand from the league. It’s like saying to a cop with a radar in his hand, “I wasn’t speeding and I don’t deserve a ticker”, that will never work. Insulting the judge (however big an asswipe he may be) doesn’t help either.
Not saying he deserves the suspension, he doesn’t, but he played his hand poorly this week and antagonized himself yet again. Not smart when you await judgement.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
I have to agree -
I saw that he had come out and said he doesn’t deserve a suspension, and I thought, Great, now he’ll be suspended for sure. If he would have just laid low it would have had a better chance to blow over.
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Dec 13, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
sadly
common sense isnt prerequisite for entry to the NFL
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
That man just doesn’t know when to shut up. You’d think his agent or Coach Tomlin would give him advice on that, but maybe he just does whatever he wants… I just wish he came out with some bullshit contrition media show to tone the whole thing down instead of antagonizing the NFL yet again. Still unfair, but poorly played.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
Harrison isn't really a thinker.
He just reacts. Why do you think it took him so long to learn the playbook and be a force? (which is also why he most likely wouldn’t have much success anywhere else?) I think he has a learning disability of some sort, and this could tie in to his inability to articulate properly. I really see him walking around going “Deebo SMASH” everywhere.
well, he must of thought about it a little...
as it took him to wed. to make his comments… I dont know the man or his heartfelt views, but stirring on something, and then mid week commenting negatively (going into an important FB game monday) is counter productive to his teamates and the organization..
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
And if he’s going to get in trouble over this beyond a fine, it should come from within the organization, from coaches and teammates saying “play this smarter, because we NEED you.” Them, he will listen to, and that’s who needs to get in his ear.
Not saying he should be suspended, just that his public reaction to it after the fact did him no favors.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Oil on the fire. Not necessary. I think the NFL had little choice but to sanction because of his stance. The suspension is ridiculous, but they had to do something because he sent a message that he didn’t get it.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
so
if he had acted like he got it like all the others that have been fined more than once they wouldn’t have suspended him, I don’t buy that at all. He definitely didn’t help himself, but that is still singling a person out.
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Not what I’m saying. Saying he doesn’t help himself with denial. We’ll never know what difference it made in the process, but I’ll bet it didn’t help.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
gotcha
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
But Harrison’s rxn definitely provided the opportunity RG was looking for.
Had he said “I believed him at the time to be a RB because of these reasons _______, and I hope he makes a swift recovery”, Goodell would have looked like a real ass suspending him…
Not that that would stop him, but still…Harrison needs to learn basic PR skills, and the team/organization needs to speak with him about it.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Dec 13, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sly like a fox
James Harrison and his agent are brilliant. They knew it wasn’t an offense worthy of a suspension, but they also knew it was a matter of time for Goodell to exact his revenge for an unapologetic James Harrison and his remarks dating back further than the Mens Journal article.
Goodell, in his haste for vengence has pulled his own rug out from under himself. He raised his own bar so high that he left himself no choice but to continue in the same player-suspension vein. Fans of other teams don’t give a rip about justice for James Harrison, but when some of their own players now HAVE to be fined ridiculously and suspended, they’ll start singing a different tune. Team by team, player by player, Goodell has NO CHOICE but to continue because his power play against James Harrison couldn’t possibly just his butthurt ego….right? Yep. Goodell has 2 choices: admit this is totally Harrison related or alienate the rest of the league.
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
no he just won't suspend other players and there will be no outrage!!!
I mean what team will complain about a player NOT getting suspended???
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
You mean
successfully make himself look bad by not following his own rules that is for the safety of all players?? Hmmm. Dude set himself up for failure big time.
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
he has
been doing this for a long time. Nothing will change
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
While I may agree with you that he could have handled his end better
It shouldn’t come into play with the decision, the suspension is for an on field act during the course of play. His actions on the field were not heinous or unusual, those hits happen every week. That alone should be the basis for any penalties levied against him.
Harrison is Goddell’s poster boy like it or not and he is abusing his office to get back at a subordinate; which BTW is illegal.
If the other players Neal listed have not been suspended (Jenkins, Robinson, or Lewis), there simply is no basis to suspend Harrison, his was the least severe hit out of the group and it was his first infraction of the year coming in week 14 – it is bias and nothing more, completely transparent.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 13, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
F*ck, he went and did it, just saw it on Yahoo
Unbelievably biased.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
More than anything I am disappointed
It is ridiculous that he has been suspended.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 13, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
So infractions from previous years ARE taken into consideration...
…at least as proven by II Duce Goodell’s suspension of Harrison. Funny how that doesn’t work against Raven’s Lewis, or other players who only got fined this year for H2H, but had been fined (sometimes repeatedly) in 2010.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
So how is Chris Carter's hammy??
Looks like he’ll be the starter or they will do the move Timmons to OLB and have the Foote/Farrior inside LB scenario
Come to think of it. They might be better off with Worilds and Timmons at OLB.
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by John Stephens on Dec 13, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Makes me sick.
I wish we could somehow get rid of the Commish.
hhhheaaattttthhhhh!
"You have to under promise and over deliver." Mike Tomlin
Perfect time for the Steelers to rally
and finish this regular season with vengeance. Us against the world again baby!
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." ~Jack Lambert.
"Superman ain't got nothing on me, ... Kryptonite? C'mon now. It's just that you're never going to hear me say that somebody is tougher than me, ... Because I don't believe somebody else could be tougher than me." ~James Harrison
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Dec 13, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions
Yet another game
without Harrison and Woodley together (not sure if Woodley was even going to be ready)
"I think the beard will decide when the time is right to come back. It will know when the time is right and all of a sudden appear." -The Deisel
and possibly No Ben or Pouncey!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Dec 13, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
"Ridiculous"
can’t even come close to adequately describing this.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 13, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions
It would be great if the fans would protest and not go to the games
empty stadium seats cause blackouts, which steal money from the league – the only place you can hit them where they care. Please stay away from the stadium on the Steelers return home everyone – make it an empty stadium – show the league that you disprove the extreme measures being taken to water down the product.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
If this was a RB no one would have a problem with it
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Back in my day we killed five hookers and thought nothing of it" Craig James
because
RB are a dime a dozen and can’t throw to keep the game super exciting
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
keep the game super exciting
Neither can Colt McCoy
This message will self destruct
Who the hell's interrupting my Kung Fu? - Black Dynamite
With two D's, for a double dose of this pimpin'
lol
p.s. I was being a bit of a smart azz, I like defensive games and think shoot outs are a bit boring
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Don't worry, he can appeal.
Oh, wait…
Bill Beeelichick proved that in America it’s okay to cheat, as long as you cheat your way to the top. – Eric Cartman
Where are the rules to protect offenisve linemen from h2h hits
they take the majority of them
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Back in my day we killed five hookers and thought nothing of it" Craig James
or how about
any defender receiving a hit from an RB that comes in head down…
"I think the beard will decide when the time is right to come back. It will know when the time is right and all of a sudden appear." -The Deisel
by count'em_six on Dec 13, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
There is no way a player can react that fast.
The league is full of shit. Put skirts on the QB. McCoy was not defenseless. He was a runner. He was outside the tackle box, running, tucked the ball. How can he adjust. Crapp. Would love to hear from an exercise phisiologist explain how a person can adjust that fast. The NHL atleast takes into account the change in position by the player getting hit. The reaction was so strong because the Browns sent him back on the field without checking him out.
Hope Deebo files a law suit against the league like Atkinson did.
by Steeler Nation VA on Dec 13, 2011 11:47 AM EST reply actions
interesting part of what youve mentioned......
Is if its a runner who makes way to running the ball outside the box, and then beccomes a passer, you can level his azz after the throw….. so what we have here is strickly a QB protection scheme….
yep
The new CBA protects the QB inside and outside of the pocket….used to just be inside…
"I think the beard will decide when the time is right to come back. It will know when the time is right and all of a sudden appear." -The Deisel
by count'em_six on Dec 13, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
So the pump fake
can be a useful tool. That sucks
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
unless
you’re Ben
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
TRUE!
those bastids
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
fargin
corcksukas
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
son of bystadges
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
fargin
ice holes
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 13, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I like the traditional
idea of protecting the QB being the offensive lines/running backs/ play calling responsibility to protect the QB…. not rules changes crippling a defense, and changing the game to something other then fair football
by OR69faithfull on Dec 13, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
The thing that pisses me off the most is that I feel like the media drove him to this decision!!
The way the media has been over reacting to this, not to mention it happened last Thursday. Therefore they’ve had more time then usual to cause an uproar over the hit!! Absolutely ridiculous decision, Roger Goodell is a Coward!!
by colorado steelhead on Dec 13, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions
One Game Suspension
Just announced report on The GFan…. Harrison hit with a one game suspension, not allowed at Steelers practice facility till Dec 20th!!!!!
This blows big time
Harrison really needs to stop using his head. He’s gonna hurt the team as he has to know now that even the slightest, incidental contact is going to get him in trouble. Like it or not, he’s the easiest suspension goodell can do. Im sure Roger was absolutely smiling when he signed the suspension paper. Goddam puke.
Harrison needs to NOT hit people with his $%#$%# helmet anymore.
We are not blaming Harrison here
He plays real football. Would rather we be unable to field 22 guys and play with testosterone than give into that hypocritical, legalistic sissy.
I still cant believe this
It would’ve been better if James Harrison punched him in the head instead of tackling him apparently
by ChitownSteelerfan on Dec 13, 2011 12:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I hate Goodell and he stanks
He’s a total assbag cockclown commie tyrant.
Goodell just want’s everybody to have a million points and 8-8 records and has no interest in good teams that show people what they really want to see. Goodell wants HIS brand of football and his brand is some glory boy bullshit with high flyin offenses and horrible defense. That’s what retarded mouthbreathers in Philly and dumbass creme pie eatin speech impeded Bostonians are used to. And those are good markets. And in NY you can be an asshole head coach guilty of insulting the media and fans numerous times without repurcussions
But make a football play on a goddamn football field and you’re made out to be some kind of criminal. The pussyfication of America continues. 30 years ago everybody would have been Harrison’s biggest fan, now he’s a cheap shot artist and bad person. Makes me sick. Everybody should seriously pull out their tampons and quit their bitching. Everybody who thinks Harrison is a dirty player needs to have their uterus examined. I hate this and it stanks.
Harrison, I still love you and if you wanted to hit me helmet to helmet I’d totally let you. Just let me write my will first.
You hurt my feelings. I'm telling Mom. -- Roger G
Oh, and I’m suing for intentional infliction of emotional distress.
Another frappuccino, Nancy, be a doll… Oh, I just love those earrings.
Sincerely yours, Roger G
This, with the flag, against the redskins b/c they tackled b-lady be4 the mark of the first down, sorry brady, trolltally justifies Deebo
suspension because, bitchgel, sorry godell, is trying to merge with “the” lingerie football league.
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
by YeOldeMexFan on Dec 14, 2011 3:11 AM EST up reply actions
Then there would be helmet to ....nevermind
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
that is
just called sex Coach
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 14, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
The pussyfication of America continues
I am with you 3,492% on that.
"I think the beard will decide when the time is right to come back. It will know when the time is right and all of a sudden appear." -The Deisel
meant as reply to Mechem
"I think the beard will decide when the time is right to come back. It will know when the time is right and all of a sudden appear." -The Deisel
by count'em_six on Dec 13, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
This sucks but,
look at how the team responded last year to BB’s suspension as well as all the fines Deebo got hit with. IF part of Goodell’s plan was to try to screw the Steelers out of the playoffs, then this may blow up in his face. I am hoping and believing they will respond like they did last year. I do not think I would want to be the 49ers this week.
Things can always be worse....
Well it's official
1 game suspension for Harrison
"I think the beard will decide when the time is right to come back. It will know when the time is right and all of a sudden appear." -The Deisel
Time to act
I am not renewing nfl ticket- I will bar hop with my no Steeler fans and I am selling my psl’ s for the giants. I am fas tossing interest in the dog an pony show. The nfl is turning themselves into pansies.
Impose your will.
Anybody got Goodell's phone number?
Preferably his cell phone, as I have a few choice words, I would like to share with him.
867-5309
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
TWSS
I hate it when the ladies do that! I can’t call em if they give me a bogus #! Not that any ever have of course ; )
by steeler fever on Dec 14, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah....
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Screw Goodell
I bet the farm that Goodell is still pissed over that “Men’s Journal” article where Harrison took shots at him. I mean, this suspension is B.S.
No Precedent?
No precedent for suspending a player for conduct outside the rules which was flagged by officials?…..Really? You mean in the vast history of the NFL this case and the others you mentioned where Suspensions did follow for on the field misconduct are it? Why would readers be skeptical of that? Cite your source perhaps?
Let’s assume for the sake of argument that what you said is true. Clearly you were wrong. Harrison has been suspended and his own Coach has stated he needs to follow the rules or he won’t be allowed to play. How many fines that don’t influence the offender to change would you have the NFL levy? How many chances? Five?….He’s had that….20?….100? …Clearly fines were not modifying his conduct. It was time to step up the discipline, especially after the offender stated, “I did nothing wrong” and “I’m going to continue to play like that”. The outcome was sealed with that response.
The only question that remains is how many game will he be suspended when he offends again, because this guy is not going to change.
there
are plenty of other repeat offenders, Ray Lewis has been flagged in each of the last 3 years yet no suspension. It is easy to say that Harrison deserves the suspension, but the problem lies with that fact that this is the first time a player has been suspended for a football act (meaning not after the play).
P.S. Harrison was only fined once last year for H2H. And you might want to look up the word precedence as you clearly don’t know what it means.
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 14, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
A'' HOLE GOODELL HAS DONE IT AGAIN
Get ready to reap what u sow as hole, the steelers ‘D’ WILL once again rise up and defend their fallen hero who u r obviously threatened by and stomp the 49ers into a pile of
OF shit that resembles the current Commish!!!!!! GO STEELERS
by steelers#1fan1972 on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM EST reply actions
He said hole
heheheheheh hehehehhehehe cool
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
tickles
the funny bone, don’t it?
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Dec 15, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
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