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Technically speaking this is supposed to be a piece evaluating the season at the three-quarter mark and I’m late. But I decided that it didn’t make sense to be so legalistic about this that I ignored the opportunity to have the results of yesterday’s game to provide additional information and insight into where the Steelers stood at this crucial time of the year. Boy, I am so glad I did.

I hope that most of you understood and appreciated what you saw last night. If not I fear that you may miss the point of being a fan of professional football. In the movie Star Trek Nemesis the Federation earns the respect and friendship of the Romulans because the Enterprise engages in a heroic and costly battle with a more powerful Romulan ship. For those familiar with Star Trek lore, a similar situation resulted in the creation of an alliance with the Klingons years earlier.

I would strongly urge that, for a couple of days at least, that we set aside the horse racing aspect of the season. Yes, the team struggled against a clearly inferior opponent. Yes, it was an ugly win. Yes, depending upon the progress of the injuries incurred last night, the Browns game could be the beginning of the end of a promising championship run. But every so often we get to witness a game whose impact and value is timeless. You’ve probably read Maryrose, Homer J. and others recount a Browns/Steelers game from 1964. A Pittsburgh team that was going nowhere in particular dominated a Browns team that would eventually go on to win the NFL Championship (their last championship of any kind, by the way). If you are a Steelers fan and was alive and aware at that time, you will carry the memory of that encounter to the grave.

Star-divide

Last night Big Ben made his claim to be included on the Mount Rushmore of Steelers players. In the process he made believers of not only Steelers fans but a national audience and the NFL Network (the Romulans). A game that nearly everyone thought would be a lopsided snooze became a compelling drama; probably too compelling for the digestion of Steelers Nation, but that should not stand in the way of our appreciation of what transpired as great football. Now I know that a lot of people openly or secretly can’t really stomach Ben. He’ll always be a sex offender in their eyes, a drama queen, and a stubborn, greedy player who will put himself and his team at risk because he doesn’t realize that sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. That is precisely why he got hurt last night. And to those people I say, too bad. Maybe you would be happier finding another team to root for, at least until Ben retires, because the argument is over. I had a friend who was so obsessed with keeping to a schedule that he never really appreciated what he was doing at the moment. His eyes were constantly on the next thing. Our problems are going nowhere. There will be plenty of things to worry about next week. For now, do yourself a favor and allow yourself to dwell on the greatness of Steelers football.

Now, before moving on a word or two for the inevitable nitpickers. I’ve been involved in discussions with some, who insist that the standard is to win every game, which I admit and acknowledge is a nice aspirational position to take. But it simply does not take into account the realities and challenges of elite competition. This is not Pop Warner, the WPIAL, the Big East or the Big Ten. In the modern era of professional football only one team managed to have an undefeated season and that occurred nearly 40 years ago. Lombardi’s Packers, Noll’s Steelers, Walsh’s 49ers, Landry’s and Johnson’s Cowboys, Gibb’s Redskins and Belichick’s Patriots for all their greatness were not able to vanquish all that were in their paths. In all of the discussion that is sure to come about concerning what the Steelers did and did not do in this game and what that might mean going forward, take a moment to tip your hat at the Cleveland Browns. Yes, we love referring to them as the Clowns, and yes, they are a deeply flawed team. But they did what they had to do to push the Steelers to the wall. At the elite level the line between great and terrible can be razor thin. So called bottom feeders are capable or rising up and smiting the mighty. Witness how the Colts pushed the Pats this past Sunday, or Steelers v. Browns 1964. So I’m forced to wonder that even if these high standard folks got exactly what they wanted would they understand what they were witnessing. If someone ties a cape around their neck and jumps out of the attic window expecting to fly should we feel sorry for them while they are being carted off to the hospital or should we just have a good laugh? (In the spirit of full disclosure; Cleveland safety Michael ‘Pops’ Adams was my son in law’s college teammate and room mate, and a close family friend. That might explain, in part, this disgusting sympathy I am displaying towards the Browns.)

9-9-9-9-9. Don’t know if you’ve been keeping up with current events but as of last Sunday Mike Tomlin became, I believe, only the sixth coach to have at least nine wins in each of his first five seasons. I’ve been shamelessly gushing about Coach Tomlin lately because somebody should. I’ve seen this movie before with Chuck Noll. Tomlin’s tenure may be the most underreported, underappreciated success story in professional sports. The fact that the Rooney organization sincerely operates from a space of genuine humility is no excuse for someone not stepping up and insisting that this man and his staff get their due. Belichick took decades to become an overnight success. I for one am tired of seeing Rex Ryan’s face every time I turn around. Then we have these lunatics in the Nation stroking their chins and talking about "The jury is still out." Well someone ought to get a small mirror and go into the jury room and see if those folks are still alive. If you can go to Steeler.com and watch the video of his press conference after last night’s game and his response to the question of whether they should have kicked a field goal when on the goal line you’ll have all the information you need to understand the quality of what we have at the helm of this team.

Warren Sapp. Has anyone considered the possibility that Sapp was doing a favor for his old coach with his "Old, slow, done" comment? It has come to serve as a battle cry of sorts. And maybe that was the intent.

The Lake Effect. (I should have made some t-shirts) Speaking of the jury still being out nonsense, I think it is time to speak in unqualified terms about the success of Carnell Lake’s secondary unit. Whatever issues this team has it doesn’t involve the wide receivers or the defensive backs (beyond Troy’s health issues). Lewis, Mundy, Allen and Brown are coming along strong. And those are the backups. And…..

How about that Willie Gay? Any questions?

Chris Hoke. Make sure you check out Michael Bean’s post that has the link to Jim Wexell’s article on Hoke. I admit to having cried as I read it and a similar account on the Post-Gazette website. It has been generally understood that the team was entering a period of transition. But I wonder if anyone believed that it would be happening so fast. It’s clear that this will likely be the final trip around the block for several players, and Hoke has been a favorite of mine for quite some time.

And I guess this is where I part company with many of the people on this site. In this modern era fans seem to be content to simply root for the uniforms. Consequently I often find myself appalled at the discard and replace ethic that seems to be ruled by the notion that as soon as there is any doubt about a players ability to give a maximum contribution to our entertainment and gambling needs that they be kicked to curb with all the sentiment usually reserved for one night stands. I find myself rooting for not only the uniform but the human being that happens to occupy it as well. This is why I took such umbrage to Gay being treated like the dork that everybody feels is fair game to bully in middle school (and, in true two faced fashion, will claim to be his best friend when he does well). This speaks to the relationship between Ben and Steelers fans who, helped in no small part by last night’s performance, means something more than just wearing black and gold. Even Kemoeatu who has a true gift for screwing up at precisely the wrong time is, in my mind part of the family. (I wanted to beat his head in with a baseball bat last night, but that’s another story for another time). I will remember Hoke’s 2004 performance filling in for an injured Casey Hampton, as well as the family man who entertained his teammates with his Hokey Pokey dance and literally jumped in the river in his uniform.

It should also be acknowledged how eerily prescient the decision to draft Hayward in the first round now seems, particularly when so many bitched about not drafting an offensive lineman.

Defensive odds and ends. Except for the relative underachievement of Timmons, what is there not to like about the defense? Being healthy does, apparently, make a difference. And I can’t wait for Woodley to get back on board fulltime. We should also be pleased with emergence of Jason Worilds in the meantime. Keisel and his beard are playing lights out as is the entire Dline. And they are doing it at the best possible time. Our offense may not be as consistently robust as Green Bay or the Saints, but with this defense they don’t have to be. If we are fortunate enough to still be around in late January and February that may be the difference in the end.

Money money money money (With a tip of the hat to the OJays). Mike and Antonio, Hines and Jerrico, Sanders and Saunders, Heath and Johnson. Maybe Green Bay’s better. But I’ll take these guys and consider myself fortunate. Brown has fulfilled the promise he showed in training camp and then some. And while we seem to be in the midst of a hiatus from the Bombs over Tokyo game that he was displaying earlier in the season, Wallace is figuring out ways of remaining relevant and finding the end zone. Don’t forget Sanders. Death and injury are difficult adversaries to overcome, but storms don’t last forever. Overlook Hines and Jerrico at your peril.

The last two games have demonstrated that the running game is just fine, thank you very much. And you can’t blame Arians for fumbles and interceptions.

Perhaps the biggest surprise of all. I can’t find anything wrong with special teams.

If we needed to be reminded, and I suspect many of us did, a season can turn on someone falling on someone else’s ankle. One play, one mistake, one injury can collapse the entire house of cards. But even with that in mind, as well as the unfortunate business of being swept by the Ravens, I’ll happily take 10-3. With a little good fortune we’ll be a lock for the playoffs by the end of the weekend. And last night should remind us not only to not take anything for granted in the remaining three contests, but also to not necessarily assume that Baltimore is home free either. But even if things don’t turn out with the division title or a high seed history has shown us that these things are not quite the security blanket we imagine them to be. We had home field advantage and the number 1 seed in 04. We were the 6th seed and on the road in 05. You know how all that turned out. Bottom line is that we are where we need to be at this time even if it is not necessarily where we want to be. What’s necessary now is for the team to put their heads down and win even if someone damn near breaks your ankle.

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Everything you said.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 9, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly.

Superb post. Thank you for getting to the heart of what makes this team great.

Last night had more twists and turns than a Hollywood thriller; I don’t think I’ll ever forget it.

by Chileburger on Dec 9, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

this

got out of my head, it is crowded enough

People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee

by stillergorillar on Dec 10, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

except

the Star Trek bit. The Federation earned the respect and friendship of the NFL Network. Huh?

by stylepoints on Dec 10, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, but I'm worried about the Offensive Line

It’s clear to me that Kemoeatu has to go. More dumb-assed penalties last night.

Anyone heard anything more about Pouncey’s injury? Hope he’s not seriously hurt.

by deemery on Dec 9, 2011 2:25 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

This

Special Teams, as you mentioned, look shockingly better-than-expected.

The Lake Effect is in full effect, and I think most Steeler fans are open to the idea that a new, improved Willie Gay has emerged. Not great, but solid.

The offensive line, however, needs some guards. Gilbert continues to emerge, and Starks, when he has his weight under control, serves his purpose. Pouncey, when healthy, is outstanding. But Essex, Legs, Foster, and Kemo just aren’t getting it done, even when healthy.

One of the things that has so many drooling over Andrew Luck is that his offensive line is outstanding; the Steelers need to poach some of it in the upcoming draft.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

So true

I trust the front office to do the right thing. However, they have not the past 4-5 years. Ben needs an O-line. Imagine if Ben had one more better than average linemen.

Also, what was Arians doing calling empty backfield plays after the injury? Luckily, it seemed like the Browns gave up trying to rush Ben.

by Steely McBeem on Dec 9, 2011 7:48 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Brown love

Antonio is awesome. So talented and full of drive. I hear he is one of the hardest worker on the team. + he is so funny after he gets a first down, his little penguin step walk with the ball and arm extended.

by steeler fever on Dec 9, 2011 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Think what you heard is dead on

When I was at camp he just stood out from just about everyone else. The only question was whether he could carry that all over to the regular season. I think you’ll agree that we have an answer to that one. We hit the jackpot with this guy.

by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Dec 9, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Ben

said in an interview that Brown is in his ear constantly, not in a whiney I want more passes way, but in a where do I need to be kind of way.

People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee

by stillergorillar on Dec 10, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

+7
Money money money money (With a tip of the hat to the OJays).

I read this, and instead hear Pink Floyd’s “Money”, cause these guys are out of this world good.

Bottom line is that we are where we need to be at this time even if it is not necessarily where we want to be

- Nuff said!

In this modern era fans seem to be content to simply root for the uniforms.

What separates the Steelers from the other 31, is the Rooney’s proven track record of keeping good men, even when they may not be at the top of their game, for the intagible things they bring to the team (i.e. Hokey’s humility, his Pokey, etc. Batch’s demeanor as the perennial back-up, and turning such a role into a positive plus for the team)

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Dec 9, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Love Pink Floyd

Still the best Concert I have ever gone to.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 9, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Obscured by Clouds

is a great Floyd album. Somewhat obscure, though. I’d recommed giving it a listen, if you haven’t already.

Bound to cover just a little more ground.

by Steeliver on Dec 9, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I have, along with every other record of theirs. I’d say that that that pair of albums (Meddle, OBC) may be their finest (in my opinion). It is enjoyable for me to track the growth of a group, and to me, those two albums are a perfect link from where they started to where they ended up.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 9, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Love those albums too

But Wish You Were Here and Animals are by far my favorite. I also really love the Final Cut… I know some people hate it, but The Gunners Dream still gives me goose bumps.

"I've been trying to justify you, in the end i will just defy you" Dream Theater

by OhioYinzer on Dec 9, 2011 9:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t hate the Final Cut at all. But it is a sad album for me. I know this will sound like nonsense, but without even knowing the history of the band when I was younger, it just sounded like “the end”. Hard to explain, but it’s just how I felt. Sad end to a great run. Shine on is probably one of my favorite musical compositions ever, period.
From Animals, any time I feel “down” I play the Pigs on the Wing bookend to myself and sing it…therapeutic…simple…beautiful. The song Pigs, and Dogs from that album are also in my list of greatest compositions ever. The whole album is great though.

As far as the Final Cut though. There are many gems on that album. I’m not as big a fan of Gunners Dream as you, I personally prefer “your possible pasts”

Incidentally. Final cut was really a Roger Waters solo project, with the rest playing (outside of Dave singing “not now john”) But if you are interested, and unaware, Roger Waters other solo album called “pros and cons of hitchhiking” is similar to Final Cut in my eyes, and equally awesome. Certainly worth a listen if you haven’t heard. Also…another “bad ass” point of the album, Eric Clapton appears…and is awesome.

Ok, I’ll stop now, because I could literally talk to people about Pink Floyd for hours on end, and this is a football forum…

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by FrankWyt on Dec 9, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah dude, totally

Get what you mean about the sad feeling of The Final Cut. And I have been all over Pros and Cons since it came out. I got to see Roger perform it live at the old "Richfield Coliseum " in Cleveland. Sadly, Clapton did not tour with him, but it was still one of the best shows I have ever seen. In fact, I still have the t shirt…needless to say, it doesn’t fit… but I still have it, and that’s something!

"I've been trying to justify you, in the end i will just defy you" Dream Theater

by OhioYinzer on Dec 9, 2011 10:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

awww. dude you suck. I would give up quite a bit to have seen that show…
Clapton or no…man, I am so jealous. they/he are one of the few artists I feel I “need to see” that I haven’t been able to. Obviously there are some that were impossible in my lifetime, such as the Beatles, and Zeppelin and Dylan (i know he still tours..but that’s not Dylan up there.)
That is so awesome that you got to see it..

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by FrankWyt on Dec 9, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Seen Floyd 3 times, all at Cleveland Muni Stadium, & Page/Plant 3 times as well, The Who, also at CMS, all great shows but Floyd is one of my all time favorites & their concerts are beyond description.

The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010

by malaki on Dec 10, 2011 6:47 AM EST up reply actions  

ugggh. You probably suck worse than OhioYinzer right now….GRRRRRRRR
I could have seen the reincarnation of them in the mid 90’s..but to me, it’s not the Floyd if Roger isn’t there, no matter how big of an asshole he may be. The one “old time” (I’m not really old enough to have seen any of them in their prime) band that I love that I got a chance to see is Rush, a week after my birthday this year. They are amazing live IMO.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 10, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Frank I saw them in the Mid 90's and the concert was PHENOMENAL

By far the best live performance I have ever seen, they really knew how to put on a show. If they went back on tour, I would drop a pretty penny to go again.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 12, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

My tickets were 100 bucks a piece, but well worth it. Especially since they eliminated the section I was supposed to be in, which was toward the rear of the floor section, and gave my tickets almost right on the corner of the stage. Those tickets would have probably cost triple or more what I paid. Great night all around.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 12, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in the bowl stage left at RFK (the old Skins stadium) for the Division Bell tour in '94

I don’t see anyone touching the kind of spectacle that they put on. I hear Roger Waters is touring right now and putting on a similar show, I would love to see that as well.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 13, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

oh whoops, I thought you were referring to Rush. Sorry, that’s the band I saw after my birthday. I have mixed feelings about the Floyd minus Roger.. I’m not exactly sure why though.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 13, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, looking at your reply again, I see why you were thinking Rush.

Understandable, and I would love to see the original band too but nonetheless, the concert was untouchable by any other I have been to before or since. My cousin went to see Rush at Nissan Pavilion a few years back and said that show was fantastic as well.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 14, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll try to find it on iTunes...

…just listened to a YouTube version of it. Awsome

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Dec 9, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe Floyd albums were taken off iTunes because they didn’t want them selling individual songs sold. However, I have it ripped on my computer, if you are interested, i’d be glad to hook you up with it.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 9, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

My email is on my profile...

…that’d be quite cool of you. Thanks!

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Dec 9, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to find a better way, and I will. Email file limit is 10MB, the album is bigger than that. Don’t worry, I’m on it. I will figure out a way.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 9, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I found a way, will be in your email when you wake up tomorrow. (or in 35 minutes if you’re still up)

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by FrankWyt on Dec 10, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I have every

one of their albums

People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee

by stillergorillar on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure I have listened to that one or not

but I love pretty much all of their stuff, even the late stuff, just something about their sound that I could listen to for days. I think Great Gig in the sky is my favorite Floyd song.

"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Dec 12, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I heard

the Ojays first, but you are correct that Floyd is da bomb

People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee

by stillergorillar on Dec 10, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

i can hear the unique 7/8 time with the bass and the register and coins

great song that is part of the greatest album of all time

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Dec 10, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Deebo

illegal hit or not i liked it

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."-Bill Shankly

Got bad knees and a high motor? Well cmon on over to PHILLY, we'll do our best to put you in the right position and do a better job!

by theaction on Dec 9, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Same here

Like to think Deebo did it in response to Ben being hit, probably not. But Wooooohoooooo!!!!!!!!

"you will hardly know who I am or what I mean"-Walt Whitman

by Pittsblitz56 on Dec 9, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ditto

but you know that King Rog the Lame is drooling over the fine money he’ll get.

Bound to cover just a little more ground.

by Steeliver on Dec 9, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I miss the old days when if you got a clear shot at the QB you put your helmet under his chin and drove up lol. You don’t see people taking at shot at them after an INT anymore either, which is a waste if you ask me. I dont care how far away from the play they are, hit them & hit them hard.

The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010

by malaki on Dec 10, 2011 6:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1000000

my thoughts exactly. I miss the old days when a defensive player KO’ed the QB, that was considered a job well done.

by blitzzburgh on Dec 10, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ive watched

many a brave perfomance since my first yr as a steeler fan (69) last nights equal to any, and represents an unspoken dedication and pride..
Im not so convinced our running game is where I would like it, simply, we cant run effectively with 7 of 8 in the box and that makes us predictable….
When I like Mr. Gay the man, im not convinced hes capable of winning the battle with premier QB’s and hope for Lewis or Cortez to fill those shoes next season…
Year in and year out the organization and football personel reafirm my support…
few fans in and sport are rewarded more….

by OR69faithfull on Dec 9, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

+7

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Dec 9, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Some love for Curtis Brown

The guy is a force multiplier.

I no longer worry about anyone’s return game.

Highly ubderrated.

by Steelzombie on Dec 9, 2011 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

Ah the "Thoughtful discussion" and "Level-headed thinking" that we know and love

Thanks for the phenomenal poast.

"In football, there are football players and there are footballs. A lot of times in football, a football player will be running with a football, and a lot of times, he carries the football into the end zone. Now, when a football player running with a football takes that football into the end zone, boom! It's a touchdown." - Anthony DeFeo

by chewiesteeler on Dec 9, 2011 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Ben now in a walking boot

If # 7 can’t go against the Niners, who gives the Steelers the best chance to win? Batch or Dixon? Batch looked unsteady last night, but has more experience than DD. Dixon’s scrambling ability could be huge versus a good San Fran defense.

by SteelStealth on Dec 9, 2011 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

DD I guess......

I don’t think hes been getting any reps lately has he?

by steeler fever on Dec 9, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree - with DD

Batch was totally useless. All he can do is hand it off and try to throw 5 yard passes. Dixon adds versatility. The Coaches can design a “safe” game plan to suit his abilities. We have many weapons for him (Dixon) to use. All we need is for the OL to block for him the way they did for Ben in the second half. And for our Defense needs to keep playing the way that they have in the last few games. I would also suggest to replace Casey with McClendon or use a 4-3 with many variations.

by Allen F on Dec 9, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats Leftwich's status?

Could he be taken off the IR and play? Honestly i don’t even know how the injured reserve system works in the NFL entirely. Can players be taken off the IR?, or once on the IR are they done for the season?

by blitzzburgh on Dec 9, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Blitz

Once a player goes on IR, their season is over. They can not come back to play.

by WV_Wiz on Dec 9, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Hat Tip to Special Teams

Special teams play is the real difference this year. We’ve been more beat-up at linebacker, and we’ve had slightly better play from the secondary, but the special teams play is better all around this year …. okay, with the possible exception of Suisham’s field goals – I still think we should find a new kicker … but kickoffs have been excellent, punting, punt-returns and both coverage units are performing the best they have in my 30 years of being a Steeler fan.

grain of salt

by PaulMorel on Dec 9, 2011 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

I am very nervous about Suisham's field goal kicking ability but....

I appreciate the job he has don thus far. There is a kid at Wisconsin this year (I don’t remember his name) who would be a good prospect. He has a strong leg.

by Allen F on Dec 9, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Good read Mr Cole

And yes I was one of the “still on the fence” guys. After the post game presser a long time friend and fellow member of Steeler Nation posed the question “what about now?” I just nodded my head yes and said he is the man for the job. Coach Tomlin has some things to improve on but who doesn’t.

"you will hardly know who I am or what I mean"-Walt Whitman

by Pittsblitz56 on Dec 9, 2011 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

well said, and that deserves a rec

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by FrankWyt on Dec 9, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

This!

Was it just me, or did everyone else suddenly hear the deep voice of the NFL film guy in their heads when he took the field. This was a timeless performance from Ben…I think all Steeler fans will remember where they were when this game happened.

by One4theotherthumb on Dec 9, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Actually, I did. Weird. It sounded so much different than the other voices.

"I've been trying to justify you, in the end i will just defy you" Dream Theater

by OhioYinzer on Dec 9, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

John Facenda (sic)...

…I can hear him now…

“…with the will and determination that IS the Pittsburgh Steelers, No. 7 returns to the field to lead his team to victory.

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Dec 9, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nailed it!

Perfect Facenda-Sabol diction. Still remember the opening of the ’79 Steelers highlight film. the team entering the field at Three Rivers via the tunnel, while Facenda intones “There are 27 teams in the National Football League. And then there is the Pittsburgh Steelers.”

by brksteeler on Dec 10, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I expect

that about 300,000 of them will “remember” being at the game itself LOL

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Dec 10, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Very solid comments !

And it may be up there with the longest post on BTSC. Great point regarding C Lake , and I have to give a shout out to all the assistant coaches ; they’ve done a tremendous job this year


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by michaelbro8 on Dec 9, 2011 8:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Excellent Post!!

…absolutely spot on the post here tonight…my only exception where i have a slight differing opinion would be the “underachievement” of LT ….Timmons, in my humble opinion, deserves a small bit of slack for his job of being pressed into filling multiple, diverse roles this season….i imagine the majority of the professionals on the field, regardless of their salary, would find difficulty in reaching consistent high-level performance week after week in similiar situations….there has been a lot of juggling with personnel on the defensive side this year, without, amazingly, a huge drop off in actual results…Timmons’ versatility, i believe is a testament to that….sure, we want that inner monster unleashed, but i believe we should find some degree in contentedness in that at least he has helped hold the line…imagine this team if everyone was ever able to be on the field simultaneously…..we do well on D with our injury situation….sure, i always can find fault in the O, but in the end, i think they deserve a tip o the hat as well….this team is where i thought they would be record wise @ this point in the season….frankly, it’s Flaccid and the Raisinettes that have surprised me….but if you consider all the negative prognostications directed @ this team earlier in the year, we should all walk around with a little smirk on our faces as these men continue to demonstrate how far off these “experts” and “informed minds” have been with regards to this team’s play….still a lot of football out there, but all in all, i’m pleased with our team effort….

by Ghost of Bad Ma'afala on Dec 9, 2011 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

I will take 10-3

With alll the scrutany of key postitions durning the off season and the 1st couple weeks of the season,im content with the current record.The week one loss i kind of saw comming just because of the lockout and the lack of practice and workouts.The second loss to the Texans was just all around bad defence and lack of offensive imagination.Now the second loss to the the Ratbirds was much more painfull,the boys had them exactly where they needed to secure a win at home,and let Joe Flappo once again drive down field and score with under one minute left (just like last year) and i lay all blame on that PREVENT a win zone defence where everyine but Ike is playing 20 yards off the ball allowing receivers to just find spots and run free off the line with no contact what so ever.Just the opposite was Laboes game plan against the Brady Bunch “flawles” physical man to man basicaly the entire game.Why cant they play that style every game?Now theyve won 7 out of the last 8 games..the offence is clicking minus the deep balls but with the emergence of Brown,Cotchery,Sanders and Saunders,hitting home runs isnt neccessary.The O-Line is doing a decent job keeping Ben upright..the run game is comming along even if it dose take Mendy and Redman combined to get ove the 100 yard mark who cares?The only true weakness im seeing is teams are taking their shots down field more.Ryan and Troy are tremendous hitters,but are not the best ball hawks when it come to the deep shots, perfect example was the hail mary Dalton threw to the rookie in the 1st game vs the Bungles,that pass should have been picked 100 out of 100 times, they both seemd to look at the ball thinking the other one was going to make the play.Both Troy and Ryan have great speed up around the line but in free space they look lost at times and out of position especially 43 BECAUSE HE GAMBLES way too much now days.Other then that i believe they have peakd at the perfect time,from the starters to the backups Tomlin has them up to the task and primed for a return to the big game in 2012.

by Rick Harmon on Dec 9, 2011 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

oh hell yes

Great post. I agree with everything, just everything.

I am one of those who is a little shocked that this team is witnessing a changing of the guard so quickly. A few seasons ago many of us were worried about the age of the D-line, among other things, boy has that changed.

The team looks great right now, imo. And they look great for the future at the same time. I am thoroughly impressed, but not too surprised.

by tkired on Dec 10, 2011 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

wonderful post

but there is no such thing as “disgusting sympathy” for the Browns. It was terrific to watch a real fight with our old rivals and I couldn’t help being proud of them. I’d much rather duke it out again in our division with a really good Browns team than with the Ravens or the Bengals, so I’m always hopeful that they’ll pull themselves together and become contenders again.

I got yelled at in my own living room for saying too many positive things about Colt McCoy—“You can cheer him on NEXT week,” I was told—but I do like the kid. He’s gutsy, he showed a lot of heart and poise and then there was that friendly helmet slap he gave Deebo a play or two after Deebo knocked him to the ground.

Oh, and only one thing could have made this game more memorable: Hines Ward as backup QB for a couple of plays. As soon as the announcers pointed out that was all the Steelers had if Charlie went down or went sour, I was thinking, Please, please, please…

by dogthebus on Dec 10, 2011 4:09 AM EST reply actions  

I agree completely

That was a tongue in cheek remark. McCoy is a class act and a quality competitor. I hope we beat him every time, but that’s really besides the point.

by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  


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