Will Roger Goodell Suspend Mark Sanchez In 2011?
Much was said last off season about the expolits of our "John Wayne" Quarterback named Ben Roethlisberger. It seems the rich and young Roethlisberger liked to go out and party with young women in college towns. One night some things went awry and got out of hand. No charges were brought but Big Ben suffered a lot of embarrassment and a lot of criticism including by me. Ben was not charged or convicted of anything but was suspended for 6 games by Roger Goodell for conduct unbecoming or some other reason.
Now word comes out that around New Years Mark Sanchez had a tryst with a 17 year old teenage girl. He thought she was of age but she was not. Sources claim he continued to call her sometimes as late as 2 AM on school nights looking to hook up. I am not sure when he figured out she was too young. Point is, Ben did not commit a crime. In this case it appears Sanchez unknowingly or knowingly did. What is the suspension? Your thoughts?
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i refuse to stoop to the level of opposing fans and holier-than-thou journalists
im not going to jump to conclusions here. i think its best to wait for more evidence to present itself, and let stuff play out first.
however
at first glance i would say that if ben got suspended, sanchez should too.
Why should Sanchez be suspended?
Sanchez didn’t do anything illegal and it’s not even that uncommon….When I was 17 my boyfriend was 23 years old, my mom wasn’t exactly thrilled about it but it really isn’t that big of a deal.
I knew this was going to happen but you can’t compare Ben to Mark…This girl is not claiming Mark did something to her that she didn’t want done. She’s not even claiming she had sex with Sanchez. It’s sad because athletes are now prime targets for media scrutiny for the things that have been going on for years. I really wish we could go back to the days before camera phones and twitter. Mark should learn that he needs to be more low key when he does his business because the media is just waiting to pounce on anything he does.
"In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women."
Tony Montana- Scarface
the article to me
seemed to imply that they had had sex, which is statutory rape. i dunno, i could have misinterpreted it. i havent had much sleep lately
It's not statutory rape...17 is legal in most states
It may not look good but it is legal
"In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women."
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yes, exactly
wild incorrect facts being thrown around by those who nothing about the law. age of consent is 16 in NJ and CT and 17 in NY. there are romeo and juliet laws where the age difference matters in order for a 13 year old to have sex with a 15 year old and it not be considered a crime. once you reach consent, a 99 year old can have sex with a 17 year old and it is not rape if consent is 17. there may be extenuating facts, like in CT where consent is 16 but if you are a teacher or in position of authority then you have to wait until the age of 18.
lawrence taylor had sex with a 16 year old in Suffern, NY (not NJ) where the age of consent is 17 which is considered “rape in the 3rd degree.”
ben was accused and investigated for a crime, sanchez is not b/c there is no crime at this point. if more information comes forward then there may be something to discuss but at this point he just looks a little strange b/c there have to be many girls out there for him.
Unless I am missing something
It happened in New Jersey and the age of consent in NJ is 16.
by John Stephens on Feb 10, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
yeah you got it posted seconds before I did
16 in NJ, 17 in NY. I don’t see anything coming of this.
And a river runs through makes the difference? There’s an old Patti Page song from the early 50s called “Cross Over the Bridge” that includes the lyrics:
If you’re a guy who’s had a gal in each and every port
And you forgot the rules of love that life has always taught
And if you broke as many hearts as ripples in a stream,
Well, brother, here’s the only way that you can be redeemed:
Cross over the bridge, cross over the bridge
Change your reckless way of livin’, cross over the bridge
Leave your fickle past behind you,
And true romance will find you,
Brother, cross over the bridge
If you have built a boat to take you to the greener side,
And if the boat is built of every lie you ever lied,
You’ll never reach the Promised Land of Love, I guarantee
‘Cause lies cannot hold water and you’ll sink into the sea
Cross over the bridge, cross over the bridge
Change your reckless way of livin’, cross over the bridge
Leave your fickle past behind you,
And true romance will find you,
Brother, cross over the bridge
I know it isn’t easy to resist temptation’s call
But think of how your broken heart will hurt you when you fall
‘Cause someday you will find that you are hopelessly in love
And she’ll belong to someone else as sure as stars above
Cross over the bridge, cross over the bridge
Change your reckless way of livin’, cross over the bridge
Leave your fickle past behind you,
And true romance will find you,
Brother, cross over the bridge
Cross over the bridge
I’m not sure how this applies to Sanchez’s situation. From all reports the girl is not claiming she was raped. And it is also not statutory rape as we explained.
by John Stephens on Feb 10, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
True, but
the age difference can be no more than 4 years (meaning she is 17 and he can be no older than 21) same as in Ohio. So, technically, it would be statutory rape, plus a number of other charges… corruption of a minor, taking a minor across state lines, etc. This could put the man in a world of hurt, it all depends on the mother (she could be in trouble too).
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incorrect
OH consent is 16, which means at that age they can choose to have sex with a partner of any age. you are confusing romeo and juliet laws with this, a 13-16 year old can consent to sex with someone if they are under 18, but a 19 year old and a 13 year old is considered statutory rape.
separately, the age of majority is 18 so parents still have control. if the girl got pregnant then if they might ask the DA to charge “contributing to delinquency of a minor.” but in any case, a 17 year old can have sex with any age partner in NY, NJ, CT or OH and it is totally legal unless it is a teacher, coach, clergy, etc. (position of authority).
Protocol has been set
BB was suspended for conduct that undermined or put at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players.
How is the Sanchez situation different?
One girl cried rape after a night of underage drinking. The other lied about her age to have sex with an NFL quarterback.
In my opinion, neither man did anything wrong. Once the protocol was set, Goddell can’t pick and choose anymore. The bar has been set.
"The standard is the standard" Mike Tomlin
by LuvMLB on Feb 10, 2011 12:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Shouldn't pick and choose but does anyway.
If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.
I agree w/ LuvMLB
"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
It’s not that it’s illegal, it’s how it makes the NFL look. The image is the important thing according to Roger. But if Favre can send naked pictures of himself to a woman who complained yet the NFL did nothing, what do you expect from the posterboy of partisanship concerning a mainstream, big market boy with a past involving similar questionable behavior? He did say it didn’t happen and wouldn’t happen again and I imagine that’s good enough for the New York fans, Roger and those who BBQ’d Ben.
But no one is singling out the Steelers. There are just different standards for different cities and teams….and certain players…and certain coaches (N.E.). But the cheerleaders can dress as skimpy as possible and that’s ok.
Where are the NFL Headquarters?
Is that bridge in New York still for sale?
The two situations really cannot be compared.
by John Stephens on Feb 10, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
chances are nothing will happen
but thats because the media will be on sanchez’s side, and they will bury this story quickly. goodell suspended ben on the grounds that he made the nfl look bad, and since the media isnt going to pick this story up, he wont make the nfl look as bad. goodell will show his hypocrisy once again…
by steel.curtain.number2 on Feb 10, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions
We’re not talking legal or illegal. We’re looking at it from the point of the NFL’s purity clause and what they worry the public will think. And if the NFL thinks it’s ok for a 24 year old spotlight QB in their “employ” to date a high school girl, then that’s fine. But there are a lot of people who may feel differently and the NFL certainly doesn’t want to offend them.
This may be a little tacky but, what if Ben while in New york or New Jersey takes a 17 year old high school girl to his NY Apartment? There wouldn’t be enough paper to print the outcry.
By the way, if Sanchez is a resident of New York or NJ, then I would think the laws apply to him (no statutory rape). But if he’s a resident of a state that says under 18 and that’s a crime, then what? Does that mean any guy from any state can go to NJ and pick up 16 year olds? That’s pretty pathetic. I’m sure a lawyer would have a field day with that.
I’m pretty sure the statutory laws are different in other countries, too. Would that give NFL football players visiting those countries carte blanche to pick up younger girls if that’s the custom? The NFL may find that rather embarrassing but since it’s legal…hey, who cares?
But int he end, the media will ignore it and so will the NFL. They can only have so many people watching Ben and they do have that “thing” to take care of in Dallas.
Look to the Lawrence Taylor case
The prostitute was 16, which is the age of consent in that state. However, he was charged with Statutory rape and Solicitation of a minor (he was able to plea to lesser charges of course).
However, if your remember the political and law pundits talking they brought up the fact that even though she was of the age of consent the age can be no more than 4 years difference. Furthermore, since this girl resides in Connecticut we must ask how she got to Sanchez’s apartment. If he drove to her state and picked her up to take her to his place without the mothers permission he is in violation of several laws. The Mother could also be in hot water here.
Ultimately… I plan on returning the favor and pointing this out the next time i hear about Roethlisberger’s indiscretions.
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"I've gotta a feelin!
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wrong
talyor had sex with a 16 year old in a Suffern, NY where the age of legal consent is 17. many people here have no idea what the laws actually are.
the romeo and juliet laws apply when a person is under the age of consent, i.e. a 13 year old with a 17 year old. there are cases where legal consent age is not valid, i.e. a teacher or coach may need to wait until the student is 18 or even 21 in some states.
the legal consent age almost always protects you from statutory rape.
good thing i'm not a lawyer
thanks for the info… now to start chasing 17 yr olds (j/k)
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"I've gotta a feelin!
Pittsburgh Steelers to the Super Bowl!"
i know you are kidding
but there are many guys who use these laws to hunt for the 16 year olds they desire. but the real sick ones with money just go to thailand where they can get any age girl or boy (like age 5-15) now how sick is that?
thats very disgusting
however, i still plan bustin sanchez/jets fans chops over this… just to try that shoe on for once,
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"I've gotta a feelin!
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this girl is living the life you see on MTV
she comes from a very wealthy family, parents divorced both cheated on each other. mom (we would probably call her a cougar) is known to hang out at NY clubs (even with her daughter) so it’s not surprising that she got involved with Sanchez., she is just doing following her mom’s example.
Sanchez should have passed on this girl or waited until she was a little older. she is too young (still in HS) to have media chasing after her and she is most likely not able to handle it. with that being said, now she can roll this fame into a reality show or something like that, maybe she is the next Hilton or Kardashian.
it would be tongue in cheek
i never claimed to be better than them, just more creative with childish taunts i can throw around
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"I've gotta a feelin!
Pittsburgh Steelers to the Super Bowl!"
or they confuse it for a happy meal
yes, it comes with fries and a toy
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by dmdjr1 on Feb 14, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really don't care but...
in short, no, he will not punish Sanchez. Because Sanchez wears green and white, not black and gold.
No
That is all.
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I read a story once about a guy who has to register as a sex offender for exactly this type of deal.
When he and his wife were dating her folks got pissed and filed a complaint and the years difference in there age made it statutory rape.
They’ve been married for 20>10 yrs since then, but he has to go on registering.
If her parents or her don’t make a big deal out of it, no one will.
If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.
I have to admit this..
The Rape laws in nys is this…17yr old girl is the age of majority, not 18! If she was 16 when the affair happened, he would be in trouble, BUT, if she is 17, no rape! May not be moral, but, no crime..
A man is innocent untill proven guilty...Even if it's Ben Roethlisberger!
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he lives in NJ where the relations supposedly occured, the age is 16
so even if this girl was 16, it would be legal in NJ where he lives. if she was 16 and he pulled a lawrence taylor and met up with her in a NY hotel he would be facing charges of “rape in the 3rd degree.”
The guy is only 24
he’s committed no crime (as far as I can see) and as for moralising, well she’s 7 years younger than him. Big deal. I’ve dated a couple of girls 7 years younger than me (although they weren’t 17 at the time!).
Superbowl’s over, now silly season begins where they try to find anything to fill the papers.
I don't see it
happening but what’s funny to me is that the NY Post has an article stating that Mark sent a text to this young lady at 1AM in the morning after he had just gotten back from the Jets loss to the Steelers to see if she up for a late night get together…for some reason I find that really funny!!!
by the duchess of steel on Feb 10, 2011 4:42 PM EST reply actions
He needed some consoling
Because Mendenhall rejected him at the end of the game.
13.
by Wiedmann on Feb 12, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
In light of the 'new" conduct policy..
that caused Ben Roethlisberger’s suspension, yes. I think considering he was arrested for sexual assault while at USC, he should be suspended if the rules are to be equally enforced.
However, I don’t think there will be any repercussions to mr. sanchez’s behavior.
i would agree if
this girl was 16 and he had sex with her in NY like lawrence taylor where you need to be 17. but what has he done wrong here? many guys like younger girls. many like older women.
this is similar to ben riding without his helmet, it may not be smart but what did he do wrong? i think riding without your helmet may be a misdemeanor crime, in sanchez case there is no possible crime at this point and no one is accusing him. sanchez probably should have passed on this girl and got one that was at least 18, but if he is willing to put up with the scrutiny then so be it. i wouldn’t doubt that he called his lawyer and checked her ID before having sex with this girl.
if he is accused of a crime, then the league will definitely come down on him. they need more token white guys to beat up on to keep the black guys from complaining as they are going to come down even harder on them.
hook or crook, the NFL is going to get much tougher on crime. they do not ever want the perception that the league is filled with closet gangsters like vick or the late chris henry. there is no doubt in my mind that the next guy to get in real trouble (like gunplay or assault) is going to be in a world of hurt, like a full season ban. if that doesn’t work, the next guy will get two seasons. ben was the guy that allowed them to broadcast the message.
the message is loud and clear, white or black, QB, WR, or LT we can no longer put up with BS. you want to be involved in crime, do like OJ and wait until you’re retired, otherwirse we will retire you early.
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by 5020 on Feb 12, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He's probably learned his protection scheme.
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by alfresco on Feb 12, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think I’m more interested to see what rug the Commish is going to sweep Chris Simms dope smoking and Braylon Edwards DWI under. Let’s see if it’s “Conduct Unbecoming the NFL” or “Pittsburgh Steelers conduct only”
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Get your facts straight
Sanchez committed no crime, in New York the age of consent is 17. At least he had the decency to take the girl home instead of to a bathroom stall.
Go cry in your beer

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by Steel Spike on Feb 11, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Just like 2006 right.
Oh wait, he was arrested for that.
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by idiscgolftexas on Feb 12, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
+1
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 12, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Took place in New Jersey, not New York. Legal age is 16.
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This is not a story. Sorry.
As much as it might be in poor PERSONAL judgement for Sanchez to be hanging out with high school girls, the legal age of consent…wait, let me write that again, because I doubt yje OP wants to hear it…the LEGAL AGE OF CONSENT in New Jersey is 16. She is 17. Therefore, nothing illegal took place, and there is no story.
Ben did much worse, in my opinion.
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Of Course He Did Much Worse
Sanchez didn’t go in with a paid entourage of off-duty cops to help him isolate his prey. I would think any fair-minded Roethlisberger-lover would offer the same defense they did in holding him blameless: that it wasn’t up to him to make sure everybody in the club was of a certain age.
what about the fact
that this teenage girl was transported across state lines… for sex?
isn’t that a crime? How Can I effectively be an obtuse jaggoff if there is no crime. Work with me people, I need ammunition here.
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I reasd through the entire response thread.
Amazing how many people don’t even know the facts of the story.
They weren’t in NY. They were in NJ. Huge difference, in that age of consent is 16 in NJ, apparently 17 in NY.
Therefore, regardless, she is well into being “legal” in NJ, where Sanchez’ house is.
Gawd, I am not looking forward to more of this type of inane filler trying to pass (and be commented on) if we don’t have football next year. Shoot me now.
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You mean the difference is like, one year? Whooooweeeee, big deal. Who gives a fuck what state they were in? The dude is cavorting with teenagers. Seventeen year olds. He’s in his twenties, and plays for a major, and I mean major market in the Jets. Apparently it made a big difference with Ben because I guess she was drinking alcohol. Funny how one year can be the difference between a four game suspension and getting him on TV as the up and coming quarterback.
Nobody cares about the facts when everybody likes the guy. Details suddenly make a difference when you don’t.
Bottom line is that he violated the conduct policy in having sex with a teenager. It makes the NFL and his team look like sex crazed pedophiles.
I mean, can’t this guy find normal women to date?
If this becomes a scandal, Sanchez will be suspended
The reason Ben was suspended ultimately had more to do with the fact that it became a big story, not what he did or didn’t do. Even if Sanchez were charged with a crime, which it appears he committed none, he will only be suspended if this blows up into a black eye on the league. Plenty of players were charged with various crimes last offseason, and not suspended. As maryrose pointed out in one his posts, they should have been treated the same way as Ben. But they weren’t. The difference? Ben’s story became national news, while those other stories were police blotters with no further coverage.
I think that what we’ve seen is that the NFL, like most of the media, is basically hypocritical.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 12, 2011 11:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Where are all the self righteous hypocrites?
Like fucking a seventeen year old is ok?
And buying drinks for a 20 year old isn’t?
Calm down Jake… don’t let this rattle your cage. Not worth the aggravation.
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Ha!
Thanks. Really, I do appreciate that.
I have a tendency to play devils advocate, and words come across as though I’m screaming and jumping up and down…..but I’m not. I have an essay coming soon in regard to the game and the NFL side shows….and this is peripheral…
But you are right, though. It’s not worth the aggravation to take it too seriously.
Well if hypocrisy in an NFL season is any part of your essay, you’ll certainly not be short on material. lol
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Can we please stop with posts like this?
I thought we all agreed that Roethlisberger getting suspended was the best thing for him?
Enough is enough! I’m tired of the comparisons. We all know Goodell won’t suspend Sanchez anyway.
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