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Nnamdi Asomugha Should Be a Pittsburgh Steeler

What was theorized by some as early as the opener against Atlanta, and what was confirmed against New England and New Orleans, ultimately proved to be our undoing in the biggest game of the year on the biggest stage there is.

I'm not going to say what it is.  We all know. And it needs to be fixed quickly.

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What we need is a 6'2", 210 lbs. corner who can run with anybody, who can maintain tight man coverage as well as play great in the zone. A guy who will step up and put a hit on a ball carrier, and not shy away from contact. Someone with the smarts and veteran savvy to pick up and mentally devour a playbook, maybe not knowing it all, but having the physical ability to make up for what he doesn't know yet while he becomes versed in the rest.

Now picture that player hungry for a championship, and starving for any team success in general at the professional level. Sounds pretty good right? But is there a player of that pedigree even out there, let alone someone that the Steelers might realistically be able to acquire? There may just be.

Asomugha_mediumNnamdi Asomugha came into the league with Oakland in 2003, as the 31st overall pick out of California. At the time, he was most likely fulfilling a dream to many dream, playing professional football in his home state (he was raised in Los Angeles, CA), but possibly for his favorite team to boot. They were coming off of a Superbowl appearance, and he was about to make them even better.

He has since developed a reputation as a top-tier corner, and one of the league's elite defensive players overall. Due to a clause in his contract requiring he reach certain incentives (which he failed to reach), Nnamdi is now a free agent who cannot be franchise tagged again. He had the tag applied in 2008.

Clearly the demand for a player like Nnamdi is great, and the number of contract offers even greater. But after years of playing without any sniff of a championship, we can offer him a perfect place to come in and compete for one immediately.

If I were Nnamdi I would want to play for a winning organization...

At this stage in his career, Asomugha has both the free agent freedom and padded bankroll to try to land on a winning team if he so chooses.

After he was drafted in '03, Oakland began its free fall into  an immense step back, and during his career he has played for teams that went, in chronological order, 4-12; 5-11; 4-12; 2-14; 4-12; 5-11; 5-11 and 8-8. That is a combined 37-and-79 (.318), without a single playoff appearance on his resume. Not to kick a franchise when they are down -- I  actually respect for the Raiders franchise -- but Asomugha has been through more coaching turmoil and instability than any player should. The list of coaches and head-scratching leadership decisions that have come and gone or occurred during his eight years in Oakland includes Bill Callahan, Norv Turner, Art Shell picking his offensive coordinator up from a bed and breakfast, Lane Kiffin's mere existence in Al Davis' eyes, and Tom Cable maybe or maybe not punching assistant coaches in meetings.

In his eight years as a pro, Asomugha has played for five different head coaches along with numerous positional coaches and defensive coordinators. 

Since Nnamdi joined the Raiders, the Steelers have by contrast been quite successful. Most notably of course are the two Super Bowl wins, but even in the down years, stability at the top has never been a problem for the franchise. We've had the same defensive coordinator for that entire span, and a decent one at that. We have, however, had one change at head coach, but the new man in charge, Mike Tomlin, is no stranger to working with defensive backs. Given Tomlin's early successes, not to mention that the Rooneys have only changed coaches twice twice in forty years, it is safe to say he'll be around for a while.

How does Nnamdi fit in with the Steelers image?

This would normally rank a little lower in order of importance to some but I almost lead with it, because people like Nnamdi should be celebrated, in my opinion.

  • Asomugha serves as Chairman of the Orphans and Widows in Need Organization which provides necessary assistence to those in need of it in Nigeria.
  • Asomugha launched the annual Asomugha College Tour for Scholars Program where he takes students on tours of  colleges. Since launching the program in 2006, 100 percent of it's participants have gone on to college after high school.
  • He has been nominated for and/ or received numerous awards for his dedication to his community including:
    • Home Depot Neighborhood MVP in 2007
      • The President's Volunteer Service Award in 2008,
      • One of Essence Magazine's "Do Right Men of The Year" in 2008
      • "Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year" nominee in 2008
      • The NFL PA has nominated him for their Byron White Award for Outstanding Community Service in 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 before he finally won the award this past year in 2010.
      • The Jefferson Awards for Public Service named him to their "Dream Team for Public Service" in 2009.
      • Honored as a United Way Ambassador in 2010
      • And most recently, Asomugha was nominated for the Walter Payton Man of The Year Award.

I encourage anyone who feels like it to read his Wiki-page, which goes into Asomugha's off the field contributions to society in greater detail. You can also check out his foundation's website for more information about what they are doing, how they are doing it, and possibly how you can get involved. People like Nnamdi don't get enough recognition for what they do, and as an organization that likes to take great pride in not just the player, but the person inside the uniform, Pittsburgh Steelers fans would love to have him in the 'Burgh representing our team.

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                          In many ways, Nnamdi reminds me of our own Troy Polamalu. (via www.exposay.com )

 

Nnamdi is too high-priced for the Steelers...

But let's not forget who was paying him before.

I'm not going to pick on Al Davis too much, but the bottom line is, in order for the Raiders to acquire or keep talent at this time, they must overpay, and occasionally overpay big time. Javon Walker, Tommy Kelly and Sebastian Janikowski all come to mind as either being (extremely) overpaid free agent signings, or overpaid in house re-signings. Add to that the recent signing of Richard Seymour to a two year deal that pays him $15 million per season. Does anyone actually think any of these players were worth what they signed for?

In no way was Asomugha extremely overpaid, but he was paid more than what I think he could have gotten elsewhere. At $17 million, his salary is not in line with what the other players at his position make. The closest comparable player, Darrelle Revis was resigned to a $12 million per year deal. I prefer Asomugha to Revis personally, and even I don't think he is $5 million a year better.

In order for the Raiders to keep the talent they do have, they have to outbid not only other teams, but they have to almost outbid themselves a few times too. They're almost like the Yankees in a way, but the bizzaro Yankees, because their reasons for doing so are so vastly different.

 

Big market teams in need of a corner can surely outbid the Steelers...

The usual suspects in free agency will be on the hunt, let's see how they stack up along with other potential suitors.

The last salary cap in place was $130 million dollars. Dallas, a team in dire need of secondary help, is already over that number. The Redskins potentially have the cap space to make a push for him, but they are not one piece away from a championship at this time. Houston is rumored to be in the mix as a potential landing spot, but they are in a rebuilding phase as they transition to a 3-4, so I would expect them to be at least two years away from competing defensively. The Giants and the Jets are both near the tipping point cap-wise as well.

His old team, Oakland, may have just pushed all their free chips into another pot, choosing to forgo possibly playing them with a slightly better hand.

 

The Steelers have won without an elite corner because of the system...

How would this work football wise?

This is where it could hurt Steelers fans.

Ike Taylor has been a major piece of two championship teams and three Superbowl teams. He has never gotten that big pay day from the Steelers and his clock is ticking at 30 years old. For the many teams, I would say Ike would be a top priority free agent who could demand more than the 3.5 million he made last year in Pittsburgh. Theoretically, given the importance of position he could warrant a deal in the neighborhood of $6-8 million a year. Think that's too high? Compare Ike to Chris Gamble, or even Corey Webster. Heck, compare him to Bryant McFadden who got $5 million just two years ago in free agency. Maybe that $6-8 million is even on the low side. Teams such as Arizona, San Fransisco, Dallas, Houston, Minnesota, New England, Oakland, Philadelphia, and San Diego could all be interested in Ike potentially. I could even see New Orleans getting in the mix maybe. This could be his last chance at a big time deal, and I couldn't blame him for taking one if it's offered.

Ike could take another "hometown discount". I could see yet another instance where he steps in and tells his agent to take the deal, possibly leaving money on the table. He loves Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh loves Ike. In a dream world, Ike on one side and Nnamdi on the other would be, well, seventh heavenly.

LaMarr Woodley is also a major factor. The pass rush he provides, along with James Harrison and the rest of our 'backers, has given us the luxury of not needing top tier talent all over the secondary. LaMarr was just "franchised" yesterday, at $10 million for this season.

If we can get a long term deal done with Woodley, we will save money as compared to franchising him. I do not foresee him getting more than the franchise amount from us, if for no other reason the rule that is forcing our hand with the franchise tag wouldn't allow us to pay him that much without giving it to him guaranteed, something the front office seems hesitent to do. On the open market, it is a distinct possibility he could be offered that kind of deal, but he will not with Pittsburgh any time soon. If the time comes when we do have to say goodbye to LaMarr, the system that allows us to "get by" with average (in some cases average at best) corners would take a serious hit. There is a young pass rusher waiting in the wings named Worilds, and at some point he will step in at one of our OLB spots. It's unfair to assume the same high level of QB pressure would continue right away, so coverage on the outside will need to be better to compensate.

And, whether any of us want to admit it or not, the window for this team (this specific group of payers) is closing. At the start of next year, Aaron Smith will be 35; Hines Ward will also be 35; Casey Hampton will be 34; Brett Keisel will be 33. We clearly have young talent waiting in the wings, if not finding their way onto the field whenever possible, but  these players need this issue corrected as soon as possible, or they may not get another ring before all is said and done.

It is not normally this franchise's M.O. to make "quick fix" moves, and not only do I understand that, I personally love that about our team. And I do not mean to exaggerate the circumstances we are in, we did make it to the Superbowl last year with our current group, so we are not in desperation mode by any means. But, we are in an interesting position. As a franchise that prides itself in continuity, we are in a position now where we can look at the guys who have gotten us to where we are over the last ten or so years, and we can say maybe just one more player can make the difference we looked like we needed against Green Bay. Maybe that one more piece can take us from the "great team" category to the "all-time great team" category. In my opinion that piece can and should be Nnamdi Asomugha.

He is a great player at one of this team's few points of, well, weakness for lack of a better term. He must, by now, be starving for team success and we can offer that for him right away. He is a great person, who more than fits in with what the Rooney's look for in a player. A person who takes great pride in his community, and is always willing to offer that helping hand when the moment arrises. We offer him a chance to play for one of the great minds in coaching in Dick LeBeau, and one of the rising stars in the head coach ranks in Mike Tomlin. Both men offer great insight on his position, LeBeau being a Hall of Fame corner himself, and Tomlin being a Superbowl winning secondary and two time Superbowl winning head coach.

The Steelers are a perfect fit for Nnamdi Asomugha, and Nnamdi is a perfect fit for the Steelers. All that is left is trying to make Asomugha financially comfortable. LaMarr Woodley's recent "franchise" designation complicates things, but with the money that can potentially be saved through the expiring contracts of Mewelde Moore, Keyaron Fox, as well as the possible inability to resign Ike Taylor while restructuring deals with Byron Leftwich eventually LaMarr Woodley, a competitive offer can at least be made, possibly in the neighborhood of $10 million or so a year. That combined with the other intangibles the franchise offers, might not get Asomugha in Balck and Gold, but I would think he would at least have to weigh the offer. Being, in my opinion, an extremely intelligent person, Nnamdi would recognize what we as a franchise offer, and that could possibly be the deciding factor. If New England was able to capitalize on their winning tradition in the mid 2000's, I say we try our hand similarly in this instance.

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So, Nnamdi, if you're looking for a winning organization, that celebrates it's great defenders, has a team poised for a championship now, and want to become part of what could be an historic championship run in NFL history there is only one place to be.

Be a Pittsburgh Steeler.

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If Nnamdi became a Steeler

I would run (not walk) to the nearest sports store and buy his godamn jersey.

There would literally be nowhere for anyone to throw on our defense. Also, it would allow Troy to freelance more, beings that he wouldn’t have to help B-Mac all the F’ing time.

If he’s willing to play for a champion, at a small discount, of course, I say pursue him relentlessly.

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 1:31 AM EST reply actions  

I always love your comentary

"Did you really expect Joe to have it as easy as you think it would be against James "I want to stomp of your children’s testicles" Harrison and Lamar "I’ll kick your grandmother" Woodley? I sure as hell didn’t." - Malor

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 21, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? Why?

Not that I’m complaining, just curious.

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You always

make me laugh, some way or another even when you’re not trying to be funny. And I mean that in a good way.

"Did you really expect Joe to have it as easy as you think it would be against James "I want to stomp of your children’s testicles" Harrison and Lamar "I’ll kick your grandmother" Woodley? I sure as hell didn’t." - Malor

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 21, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, thanks, bromosexual! (no homo)

Wanna get a drink sometime? ;)

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

"Did you really expect Joe to have it as easy as you think it would be against James "I want to stomp of your children’s testicles" Harrison and Lamar "I’ll kick your grandmother" Woodley? I sure as hell didn’t." - Malor

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 21, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

amazing post

but even if nnamdi did try to sign a deal with us, i bet the NFL intervene b/c we’d be too dominant, or they’d have to come up with another rule to limit defense. thats just not fair, nnamdi + harrison + woodley + polamalu + everyone else on our d with lebaeu??

by Bleed-Black&Gold on Feb 21, 2011 1:32 AM EST reply actions  

That would never happen.

The league wouldn’t do something like that. At least not so brazenly coughjamesharrisonfinescough

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Had we won I probably would have started working out some time in March. I started yesterday.
-Ryan Clark

by svenhoek on Feb 21, 2011 3:50 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

in reality, we’re lucky if we sign a name as big as champ bailey. it would be an uncharacteristic move by the steelers, but this isnt your fathers offseason. i dont know what’s going to happen

by hasay on Feb 21, 2011 4:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Been saying it all along.

I got a real good feeling about this off season. We are going to sign one of these guys, I’m almost sure of it.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Had we won I probably would have started working out some time in March. I started yesterday.
-Ryan Clark

by svenhoek on Feb 21, 2011 3:49 AM EST reply actions  

Ahh the voice of realism that shatters a wonderful dream

Signing a high priced FA starter is just not done in Pittsburgh. We draft and coach our success. We dont buy it!

by steelerstyle on Feb 21, 2011 4:15 AM EST reply actions  

I agree…but damn it would be nice!!

by OIF3GUNNER on Feb 21, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Farrior?

When the right player comes along, they make the move

Offense may sell tickets, but defense wins championships

by canadianblackandgold on Feb 22, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Ryan Clark, Jerome Bettis, Kevin Greene...

If the front office finds a player they want, at a position they need, they sometimes make a move.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 22, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

May be too old...

If drafted in 2003 then he’s near 30 himself. Steelers very old, esp. defensively. Trend will have to be towards youth if they are to remain competitive. Look what Pats have done with youth. Steelers need to follow suit.

by STEELSPIKES on Feb 21, 2011 5:11 AM EST reply actions  

Right

It would just be a band aid.

 Steelers are not interested in fixing secondary problems, too much pride in being #1 against the run. (Even though nobody tries to run on them because it is too easy to pass)

by biggcat on Feb 21, 2011 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

that the Steelers aren’t interested in fixing secondary problems, the moves that they made to get Mcfadden back show that they are, whether it worked or not. I don’t think they will chase the FA’s, because as you said it would be a band aid. I think they will do what they have always done and draft their solutions.

People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee

by stillergorillar on Feb 21, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah we should trade our good run stoppers for good corners

sure we could hold up better against the packers in the super bowl. but we would never get there with the ravens running over the top of us in our first game of the playoffs. this team is built like it is for a reason.

by steelerintexas on Feb 21, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree we should get young

But Asomugha is that good and could step in immediately, unlike any rookie we draft. I’ve been thinking about it a lot and as good as this team was, I think we got a bit fortunate in our playoff run. We avoided all the good passing teams in the AFC until we met the best one from the NFC. I really do not think we can beat those teams more often than not with the secondary we have now. As it stands, our defense is designed to shut down the running game and then hopefully limit the passing game.

Unfortunately, if you are able to spread us out and throw quick passes we can be had easily. Ike Taylor is the only CB we have that I am remotely comfortable with playing man to man without a 10+ yard cushion. Gay and McFadden just do not have the talent to. K. Lewis has not made much progress and most people think he is a big liability to get cut in the off season. Madison is garbage outside of ST. And lastly, we have a big question mark with Butler who people say at best is a #2 CB.

Nnamdi may be 30, but CBs with his talent have probably 3-5 years left in the tank. Hell, even at 35 he would probably still be better than McFadden and Gay are now. Unfortunately, I really don’t see the Steelers going out and getting Nnamdi, because he has been pretty much ruined by the Raiders, in the sense of contracts that is. I really think the Steelers have to resign Ike, which will probably be 6 mill a year (I think he takes a bit of a hometown discount, say $18 million over 3 years). That leaves them less room to fool around with, unless they make some payroll reductions (Foote and Smith seem like the unavoidable) and restructure Woodley to something long term and therefore cheaper. That’s why I think they should go after a cheaper option in a #2 CB and then release McFadden. That would leave us more room to get maybe a younger veteran DE and maybe some other small holes we need like K.

Sorry for ranting.

"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Feb 21, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

And look at the Pats terrible defense. Just because you have a young team doesn’t mean that they will be good.

by GDEUCE on Feb 21, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Asomugha can play FS if his wheels slow down.

This could be a move for now and the future.

The Pats are not the best example, they dismantled their team to rebuild.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 22, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Nicely done,

you present a compelling case, but it is too good of a scenario to ever happen. The chances of the Steelers paying for a high priced player is doubtful and the chances of Nnamdi taking a pay cut is also doubtful. The picture you presented of Nnamdi in black and gold is a pretty one, but football is a business and that means its all about the money. Its too bad he seems like the perfect Steeler.

by ibygeorge on Feb 21, 2011 7:50 AM EST reply actions  

PLayers want championships too.

It may be all about money to front offices, something I would still disagree with, but to players the ring matters too.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 22, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Not happening.

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 21, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

We’re not talking about Flacco ever winning a SB, though if we were, you would be correct.

by alistar7 on Feb 21, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

All good. Pouncey will never win one either.

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 21, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Pounceys chances at winning a title are far better than Flaccos, as are his chances of making pro bowls and the HOF. Flacco will continue to put up dreadful postseason numbers and fail in the clutch.

Flacco isn’t even a top 10 QB. Even as a 20 year old rookie Pouncey is already one of the top 3 centers in the league. Much like in college, he dominated Cody so badly once again Mt Lardass had to hold him in the latest Ravens playoff loss to the Steelers.

Steelers getting younger, deeper, and better due to superior drafting, while the Ravens continue to get older, have average drafts, and make horrible FA decisions. Steelers already one of the top teams in the league and still rising. The Ravens are a middle of the road team and beginning to decline. You being here only proves your well founded concerns that the Ravens will continue to be nothing more than second class posers, Steeler wannabes that will always fall short.

by alistar7 on Feb 21, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Much appreciate your opinion. Can always count on you.

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 21, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Just like we can always count on you being a troll and sharing your ignorant and predictably wrong opinions/‘insights’.

We certainly have the flexibility to make room on the roster, and payroll, to offer both Nnamdi AND Bailey competitive offers. I’m sure both of them would love to play on the best defense in the NFL and have a realistic shot at winning the SB every season.

by alistar7 on Feb 21, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

You two fight like an old married couple

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Fight? With this low life? Puh-lease.

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 21, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, you'll fight with anyone

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the internet man, Harrison and Woodley may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 21, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

corollary being that your words should never hurt anyone

by klompus on Feb 22, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

lol -

It’s too true, spike!

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Feb 21, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

:)

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

He’s only been in the league for a year and he has already been to a SB more than Flacco.

"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Feb 21, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

So has Crezdon Butler.

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 21, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Being called a low life from a no life troll is amusing. Words may not hurt you but losing to the Steelers sure does, enough to make you leave Heinz field with tears in your eyes.

Change your name to Miss Mallory, suits you much better. At least that way when you cry after Flaccid fails again nobody will give it much thought.

Face it KID, your team has always been nothing more than a bad attempt at copying the Steelers.

by alistar7 on Feb 21, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Geez!!!

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Feb 21, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

:p

In related news, Miss Mallory was just bestowed the immense honor of being the first back to back pro abortion poster child/

K I’m done with that idiot, I’m just hoping he carries through on his threats to use my IP to make my life a living hell.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2011/2/13/1991031/rock-out-with-your-mock-out

by alistar7 on Feb 21, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Just an FYI, Malor has been around here longer than you and he’s a generally respected presence. There is some back and forth tolling but it’s all in good fun.

When you go picking fights you just make us look bad.

by Phantaskippy on Feb 21, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 22, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

You get a Blue Moon

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Mmmmm...

Morning beer.

And it helps prevent scurvy.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 22, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You get a Stella Artois

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

no, you’re probably not done. i’m just waiting for the part when you slip up and reveal that you were someone malor beat at beer pong during highschool and you can’t get over it

by klompus on Feb 22, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

You get a Natty Light.

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

keep that Nasty Light

hey where is my comment in your Beatdown poast buddy?
All of a sudden its gone

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Feb 22, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Strange…

"If only Flacco could put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan, or maybe just improve his stats year-to-year, he wouldn’t seem like such a wasted draft pick. It’s as if a young quarterback needs to put up better stats in his first three years than nearly every other quarterback to play in the NFL to justify a first round pick." - Amp

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2011 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

MaLor can ‘play’ dumb but he is well aware what transpired. He has been put in his place for his threats and lies that were used in an attempt to get me banned.

by alistar7 on Feb 23, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought i was being fair with my comments

oh well your house rules i guess

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Feb 23, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The ‘respected’ MaLor has stated many times he often comes here with the sole intent to troll/flame.

I posted a comment on BB in one of the mock draft threads. Just offered my opinion that the Steelers are pulling away due to better drafting and that Flacco is not an elite championship caliber QB.

MaLor’s response? He pointed out he now had my IP and threatened to make my life a living hell. He then followed that up by either committing a crime and impersonating me in spoofed emails, or just lied to Bruce, the head moderator at BB, in an attempt to get me banned. He claimed I was sending unwanted and harassing emails.

That is ‘all in good fun’? I didn’t call him out in that thread, yet he seized upon the chance to make threats and follow through with unethical actions that would likely gotten most anyone banned from SB nation.

Bruce deleted all those comments from the post, and has assured me he will handle MaLor. If you choose to respect anyone who acts in such a manner then that is your choice, but IMO there isn’t anything respectable about his comments, actions, or him as a person.

It’s a shame Bruce destroyed the evidence of MaLor’s threats and the epic pwnage I laid down on him.

by alistar7 on Feb 22, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

you too?

no wonder my comment is gone. I thought my comment was fair, but oh well Failbirds fans cant handle the truth

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Feb 22, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Your comments were fair, but considering how BB is moderated don’t expect anything to be handled in a fair, or ethical, manner.

I may still pursue this matter as there is a chance he committed identity fraud by using my information and pretending to be me in spoofed emails. He likely did this from his college’s internet connection. Colleges normally expel students who abuse that privilege to commit crimes.

by alistar7 on Feb 23, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be

A dream come true. Could you imagine how dangerous the front seven would be when you put him on the best receiver and say “shut him down”. Pittsburgh hasnt had a guy like that in years.

by p stuby on Feb 21, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

So you haven’t been watching Ike Taylor then?

by worldtrip on Feb 21, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's refering to Rod the God

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
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by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The fact remains that Taylor has taken and often shut down the other teams best receiver for several years now

by worldtrip on Feb 21, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I know that

The fact remains that the Steelers haven’t had a Pro Bowl corner since Rod, IIRC. If Ike could actually make INT’s when they hit him in the hands, he would be that high profile Pro Bowler that everybody wants.

Opposing teams know about him, but the average fan doesn’t, and that’s good enough for me.

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Which has nothing to do with his original comment or my response to that person

by worldtrip on Feb 21, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I see you're in argue mode again

Let’s go our separate ways for now. :)

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by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you trip

Ike doesn’t make pro bowls because even Steeler fans underrate him. Dude is a shut down corner…

by shleeve on Feb 21, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering his contract status Im glad he is ‘underrated’.

by alistar7 on Feb 21, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

ike is not shut down. there are probably only two shutdowns in this league, revis and aso

by klompus on Feb 22, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The term "shut down" is used too much in my opinion.

While I would put Ike on the cusp, I would agree there are only the two in the whole league right now. Bailey isn’t there anymore, I would put him and Ike in the same class, Bailey slightly above Ike for his ball skills.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 22, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Well Taylor had a better year than last

but you certainly have a higher opinion of him than I do. As far as Steeler dbs are concerned , they have the best safety in the league and 3 others. When TP is out or playing injured,it shows. I would consider Taylor a good #2. If I under rate him then so be it but I got a feeling I’m not the only one who sees it that way or so many others wouldn’t be excited at the thought (however unlikely) of getting Asomugha).

by p stuby on Feb 21, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure fans of every single team in the league would be quite excited about the thought of getting Asomugha

by worldtrip on Feb 21, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.

There weren’t many attempts to Taylor’s side because the other side was free pickin’s. If somebody decides to pick on Taylor, they will at least get a load of interference calls.

by biggcat on Feb 22, 2011 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

We are not going to be able to draft a CB that is going to be able to learn our scheme and be a starter in his first year. I do believe they will draft a CB in the first 3 rounds, but with the expectation that the player won’t have a realistic shot at starting until his second year.

While Champ Bailey an Eric Wright are more likely, it is not impossible that we could land Nnamdi. I can imagine he wants to actually play in the postseason, maybe even win a ring. Doing so with a franchise known for defense, and being part of an elite, possibly all time unit, also has to be appealing.

This isn’t a guy looking for his first big payday, he’s had the huge contract. That being said I don’t expect him to come in and play for the veteran league minimum. Clear some cap room and free up some money by dumping Fox and/or Foote, Memo, ARE, Battle. Maybe ask Aaron Smith and Ben to restructure their contracts if additional money is needed. We can make him a very competitive financial offer, and when you factor in everything else playing for the Steelers brings to the table I think it would be much easier to land him than most believe.

by alistar7 on Feb 21, 2011 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

You think Ben will restructure his contract to pick up Nnamdi

Hell No! I think Steeler FO is smart enough to not touch certain players contracts.

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Feb 21, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Everything else that comes with playing for the Steelers?

Do you think he cares?

It’s nice to have a better fan base and a great organization, but you also have all the yinzer fans calling and complaining about anytime you don’t live up to our ridiculous standards. Steeler fans may be great, but we are also really tough on our team. Frankly I can’t imagine Nnamdi taking much less to play for a contender. Maybe 2 million a year? If Oakland offers him another ridiculous contract he’ll stay there. If somebody who is a playoff threat sends him enough to be the highest paid CB he’ll go there. No way he takes less than Revis.

Even if he was willing to take 12 mill, no way the Steelers pay that. Asking players to take cuts, that might work if A. Smith loses his starting job and realizes he’s not a starter anymore, but no way a starter takes a cut for someone to come in and break the bank. Especially since all the players know the franchise doesn’t drop big contracts on non-QB’s.

It’s just not going to happen. There isn’t even a realistic chance, not even an implausible but still there chance. Just isn’t going to happen.

by Phantaskippy on Feb 21, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

A Sweet Midwinter Dream

Perked me up just to think of this (albeit remote) possibility.

by Citizen of Steeler Nation on Feb 21, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

I love the thought

I have been wanting him on the team for years now, I can only hope that he will see the light at the end of the tunnel, the possibility of a ring and decide to forgo the top $$ and come to a team where he can make a key difference and immediately challenge for a title. He would be fabulous, and we could finally put Ike where he belongs – at #2. Our last good corners were Woodson and Lake, it has been a long time coming. Even though he is older and not quite the jewel, I would be almost as happy picking up Bailey – and he might just come for all the same reasons.

Pittsburgh – Please make an honest run at one if not both of these guys, we just need one more piece and we are there – and we draft too late to get the best corners in the draft, please go after this top tier talent – it will be worth it. Hell, might even be able to get a steal on Bob Sanders too (Okay, now I am dreaming). :)

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Feb 21, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

I would much rather see them give Bailey 5 million a year than McFadden, or see that 5 million go towards Nnamdi.

by alistar7 on Feb 21, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Nicely written post

Unfortunately, I do not think it fits our M.O., and I give the chance of it happening at about 15%. I would love for it to happen, no doubt, but I really see Nnamdi getting something like 27-30 million a year for over 3 years, which is way too expensive for us. I really do not even see them going out and signing a cheaper #2, because they never do that, but we ultimately end up on top.

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by John Stephens on Feb 21, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

maybe offer some security with it

5 years – 30 million

6 mil/yr

its up to him if he takes it, which he’ll only do if he feels like he’s made enough money and wants to chase a championship

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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd have to actively pursue the Steelers

I don’t see the Steelers feeling out Nnamdi far past telling his agent, “Hey, we can give you a shot at a ring for what you’re asking minus 15%.”

by theobserver on Feb 23, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Fantastic Article

I was skeptical, and expecting a “dream another dream” post, but you made a very compelling case. So much so that I actually really like the idea, as opposed to denying myself false hope.

“Make it so!”

by gostevego on Feb 21, 2011 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Great post, but I'm in the other camp

I prefer to take the long term perspective. The short one may fetch more short terms results, but compromises long term. Big buck FAs, even if they take less pay to wear black and gold and vie for a Lombardi, usually mean less productive years since they are older than rookies, and it reduces the cash to be able to have lots of good players versus some really good ones. The skill of Colbert and his staff also points to the draft/long term strategy. And, IMO, the Steelers have a better chance of keeping the salaries of draftees (versus FAs) who turn out to be gems at something less than market value because they, having “grown up” in the Steeler org, are more likely to want to stay even if that means less scratch than if they would leave.

by NCSteeler on Feb 21, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

The window for a lot of our defensive stars is closing

To get many of these guys another (or their first, in some cases) ring, it needs to happen in the next two years.

How long will Troy remain healthy, and playing at his normal Pro Bowl level?

Ryan Clark is getting up there in years too. How long before he jacks himself up like he did to McGahee and ends his career?

The Steelers best shot at achieving the highest honor in football within that 2 year timeframe, is to get a top flight corner to shore up that pass D. This will not happen through the draft, especially not this years’.

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by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

why especially not this year?

This years CB class is one of the best and deepest ever. The following corners can all be #1 corners in the NFL at some point in the next 2 years:
1. Patrick Peterson
2. Prince Amukamara
3. Brandon Harris
4. Aaron Williams
5. Jimmy Smith
6. Ras I Dowling
7. Curtis Brown
8. Brandon Burton

I don’t recall any draft class ever that has 8 potential #1 corners.

by seton hall and steelers on Feb 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Jimmy Smith will never be a true #1 corner in the NFL. I just don’t see it.

"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Feb 21, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Since when do defensive players start year one in Coach Dad's system?

Outside of the D-line, even Troy sat for part of his rookie year.

I quantify “starter” as #1 or #2 corner. Not nickle, dime or ST’s.

Yes, this draft is deep with potential #1’s, but they won’t be #1’s on the Steelers this year.

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by Steel Spike on Feb 21, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I only see Peterson and Amukamara as true shutdown number 1 cornerbacks there. Harris and Williams will be very good #2 corners who play the #1 position. The rest are meh

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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 21, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Hes got at LEAST 4 good years left

by OIF3GUNNER on Feb 21, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

W. C. Fields said

I’d rather have two girls at twenty-one each, than one girl at forty-two.

by NCSteeler on Feb 21, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

HA!

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Feb 21, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely Spot on!!

As a steeler fan I am not offended at all that you spell out the teams weakness. It has been since Rod Woodson departed a lack of good coverage on the DBs. The talent of the defense and the “system” is the ONLY reason they compete every year.

I think signing Asomugha should be the Priority besides drafting OL/OT in draft.

Can you guys imagine how freaking good this defense would be with a real shutdown corner???

by Fixer29 on Feb 21, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

We have one

Ike is definitely the most underrated corner in the league. He has been unstoppable. He has a couple down games here and there (see broncos, 06, Javon Walker)

But he’s awesome.

Now I imagine him being older teaching some of the new guys and hopefully retiring as a steeler.

by Mechem on Feb 21, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds great

To get this guy in our team sound great, but I agree with some guys here the Steelers will address this position in the draft, we know that our team only few times look in FA for the people that really need.
I hope that can sign Asougha, and resign Ike and Woodley

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by ninke on Feb 21, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

From your lips (fingers) to Colberts and Asomughas ears (eyes)

by worldtrip on Feb 21, 2011 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

sounds great

I agree. getting Asougha would be a coup for us. Especially if we can get Ike and Woodley resigned. Would make a big difference in the secondary.

by ChukaMan on Feb 21, 2011 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

Well poasted

I personally think the solution was to franchise tag Ike, and maybe let him go in exchange for those juicy draft picks. Then sign Almosthadyamomma. Draft a good CB with the extra picks, B-Mac gets healthy, boom.

Let woodley go, and you draft a few more LBs to be System backers and let worilds take over from there. Woodley’s numbers have been slowly declining and he just doesnt seem to be what he was in 08.

by Mechem on Feb 21, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

It wouldn't be fair

The only way offenses have hope against this defense is to spread them out and attack the #2 CB and that only works if your QB is good enough to execute it.

Put nnamdi in there and you destroy that hope, our secondary would be tops in the league. The defense would probably set records. Excuse me even more records. Yea the defense is getting old but they got at least one more year in them. Go all in – you finished runner up this year, one free agent splash for a quality character guy isn’t going to hurt.

Hopefully they could do it before the draft and then focus the draft on the future, G/NT/LB or S (hopefully they can get gibson back so they won’t need another linebacker)/RB (MeMo replacement)/DE.

We wouldn’t need to get a CB in this draft and could pick up Pouncey in the first and trade up and get Phil Taylor in the second. Then in the 3rd and fourth rounds I would invest in a pass catching/speedy RB who I believe I can teach to block, either Locke or Devine and a defensive end (maybe lawerence guy DT ASU 6-5 runs a 4.9 300 lbs) then pick up Alex Henery in the 5th round K/P (yes he can do both).

I’m being a complete optimist here but here is what I would think our depth chart would look like:

QB
1. Ben
2. Leftwich
3. Dixon
(Batch becomes Ast. QB coach)

RB
1. Mendy
2. RedMan
3. Dwyer
4. Devine

TE
1. Miller
2. Spaeth
3. D. Johnson

WR
1. Wallace
2. Ward
3. Sanders
4. Brown
5. Sweed ( I think he’ll get one last chance, for lack of a better option)

C
1. Pouncey

LT
1. Starks
2. J. Scott

LG
1. Chris K.
2. D. Legursky

RG
1. Mike Pouncey
2. R. Foster

RT
1. Willie Colon
2. F. Adams

Offense 24 players

Defense

LDE
1. Aaron Smith
2. Ziggy Hood

NT
1. Casey Hampton
2. Phil Taylor

RDE
1. B. Keisel
2. Lawerence Guy

ROLB
1. J. Harrison
2. T. Gibson

RILB
1. L. Timmons
2. S. Sylvester

LILB
1. J. Farrior
2. L. Foote
3. K. Fox

LOLB
1. L. Woodley
2. J. Worilds

LCB
1. Nnamdi A.
2. B. McFadden
3. A. Madison

RCB
1. Ike Taylor
2. C. Butler
3. W. Gay

FS
1. Ryan Clark
2. Ryan Mundy

SS
1. Troy P.
2. Will Allen

Defense = 25

K Alex Henry
P Daniel S.
LS G. Warren
Special Teams = 3

25 +24 = 49 + 3 = 52

Looking at the roster I think we’d be in good shape next year. I could see the offensive line improving and I think the WRs will improve. I would see the defense improving especially with the addition of Nnamdi, I think that would lead to more sacks and more turnovers. I would think we could handle the pats if we had to face them in the playoffs.

"Did you really expect Joe to have it as easy as you think it would be against James "I want to stomp of your children’s testicles" Harrison and Lamar "I’ll kick your grandmother" Woodley? I sure as hell didn’t." - Malor

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 21, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

with a roster like that

goodell would have to suspend harrison and possibly 5 other steelers for the season to even make it remotely fair.

by steelerintexas on Feb 21, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Incredible roster -

is it even possible? Only God, and Kevin Colbert, knows…

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by Rebecca Rollett on Feb 22, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Gibson is gone

but I likey

"We didn't worry about the calls," Harrison said. "When you're getting a lot of penalties against you, it brings you together."

by kick him in the head on Feb 22, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Where to throw?

Nice write-up, agree it’d be great to have him as a Steeler. But someone posed the question – with Nnamdi and Ike, where to teams throw? If you’re Green Bay and have 4 talented WR’s, you still have WGay and McFadden/Madison to throw at all day long.

Which is why we’ll continue to build through thr draft, try and bring young guys along. That formula continues to get us to the big game. Perhaps next time we don’t turn it over three times…the offense deserves as much blame as the defense (more, probably) for the SB debacle.

by elpapafrita on Feb 21, 2011 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

I think C.butler

will be better than gay and he’s faster…. I can see him challenging gay for his 3rd CB spot this year.

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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 21, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

If there is one less area that Troy has to worry about, then he can concentrate on Gay and/or McFadden’s coverages thereby increasing his effectiveness.

by SteelerEmpire on Feb 21, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Randy Moss took a pay cut to get with NE...

So I think are chances are as good as anyone’s to land him. It’s well know across the league that to be (or stay) on a high caliber team (like the Steelers) USUALLY requires the trade off of a pay cut. The author of this article should try to get it in front of Nnamdi himself.

by SteelerEmpire on Feb 21, 2011 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

i think, pats are even cheaper than us when signing FAs

isn’t their payroll at the bottom in the league where ours is usually in the top 5.

by kk99 on Feb 23, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

yay __________________________

by klompus on Feb 21, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

Outstanding article..I hope to god we can sign him..I dont care if we give him the keys to Heinz Field!!

by OIF3GUNNER on Feb 21, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Willian Gay

I hate to say it like this but…..willie needs to say big play for the other team gay!!

by OIF3GUNNER on Feb 21, 2011 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

OK, so the problem is we need one great CB?

Because the problem I saw was teams spreading us out and attacking a mismatch against our depth. One star CB to shut down an opponents #1 is nice, but after that you need talented depth to take on teams that can take advantage of spreading us out.

I’d take 2 upgrades at depth over Nnamdi. Greg Jennings didn’t kill us, Jordy Nelson did.

When teams talk about how to attack us, they always say spread them out, not throw on B. McFadden. Nnamdi and Ike would help trickle down coverage, but I’d still take 2 really good depth guys behind B-Mac over Nnamdi.

And then the contract, Nnamdi doesn’t have to rehab his image like Moss did. He doesn’t have to take a massive pay cut because no one is really that interested in him. Anyone would take Nnamdi at 9 million. Anyone. Even at 12 he could get a playoff team to sign him, heck they’d clear room.

Yeah I’d love to see Nnamdi here at Ike Taylor money, dream come true. But also never going to happen. He’d have to be absolutely dying over not competing for the Title and a life long Steeler fan with a lifelong dream of playing for the Steelers to take that much of a cut to play here. I don’t think either is the case.

The real solution is depth, young talented depth. Unfortunately none of our youngsters were ready to step up this year. Hopefully someone changes that.

by Phantaskippy on Feb 21, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I am in agreement with this. Depth > Individual stars at CB

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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 21, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair...

…Greg Jennings murdered us too. I agree we need quality depth but signing Nnamdi shifts our current guys down a slot. McFadden is a good 3/4 not a 2.

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by Jon Ross on Feb 21, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i would like to think we would still get a corner in the draft

probably not in the first and maybe second, but no way we would keep asomugha and ike for too long. we would still have to develope some young guys.

by steelerintexas on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

It Won"t Happen

We only need to have Ike, or Asdamougha or Champ Bailey for two or 3 years. Crezdon Butler and Keenan Williams are developing fast. Gay needs to go. B Mac is iffy.

by Allen F on Feb 22, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean

Keenan lewis and that last I heard of him is that he may be on the chopping block next year… he needs to get his act together in a hurry.

"Did you really expect Joe to have it as easy as you think it would be against James "I want to stomp of your children’s testicles" Harrison and Lamar "I’ll kick your grandmother" Woodley? I sure as hell didn’t." - Malor

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 22, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

adding

one great player creates depth, then you can put a better corner (Ike) on nelson instead or BMac or Gay…. which one wouldn’t be on the field

"Did you really expect Joe to have it as easy as you think it would be against James "I want to stomp of your children’s testicles" Harrison and Lamar "I’ll kick your grandmother" Woodley? I sure as hell didn’t." - Malor

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 22, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I am one of those dreamers too....

As I stated in another post. But I also share your thought on a 2 fer1 signing, Two young FA’s who are just under the radar, but have a big upside and bright future for the price of 1 Asamugha. We have to get a cover CB who can keep up with the top WR’s so that we don’t have to play soft and let other teams nickel and dime us right into the Red Zone (like Brady and Brees did). Also take the pressure off of Troy. We really got burned by TE’s several games also. My dream is, in all likelyhood, not going to happen – so am hoping our FO can find those 2 younguns who can fill the bill at CB..

by Allen F on Mar 7, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

In reality...

We will have William Gay and BMac back next year. You heard it from me first.

by biggcat on Feb 21, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, we don’t spend the big money at CB. Gay and B-Mac will be here till someone wins their job. I’d love it to be this year though.

by Phantaskippy on Feb 21, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly…I can cover better than gay…if we dont get aso…lets draft 2 corners

by OIF3GUNNER on Feb 21, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

A long way from Pittsburgh PA, in fact, 8653.2 miles to be precise. My blood still bleeds black and gold like the rest of Steeler Nation, proud fan since 2002.

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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 21, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure I can especially in Madden!!!

by OIF3GUNNER on Feb 22, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Used to his strengths,

William Gay is very good. He’s good at rushing off the edge, for example, and in the nickel, or at least that’s how it looks to me. He’s not a #2 corner – he wasn’t last year, and he wasn’t this year. He also wasn’t good enough to help compensate for McFadden’s difficulties, which I think were at least partially caused by a Week 1 groin injury that cascaded into a constellation of problems and slowed him down as the season unfolded.

I think that this is part of why we’re all excited by the idea of a really good corner as a complement to Taylor – because that would allow the some of the other DBs to return to their pre-Peter Principle level (in other words, to go back to playing a position suited to their level of competence.) That, plus a possible improvement in one of the young backs, plus a relatively injury-free season, could give us a seriously awesome secondary.

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Feb 22, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

To clarify I like Willie just not in coverage as the 2nd corner….

by OIF3GUNNER on Feb 22, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Um...
To clarify I like Willie

I’ll just leave this one alone…

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by Steel Spike on Feb 23, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank god he doesn’t share part of his name with Will.I.Am. from the Black Eyed Peas.

by alistar7 on Feb 23, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

He certainly has the right name!

“The Steelers are a perfect fit for Nnamdi Asomugha, and Nnamdi is a perfect fit for the Steelers.”

I have been saying for years that I think when Colbert goes to the draft he’s convinced that he’s actually playing in a giant game of Scrabble. He just takes the player with the most unusual name trying to use up all of his letters! Just to list a few: Polamalu, Roethlisberger, Rashard Mendenhall, Limas Sweed, Antwaan Randle-el, Plaxico? Not that I’m complaining. It seems to be working wonderfully for us!
Honestly I don’t know how he let Ndamukong Suh get away!

by SuperSteelers on Feb 21, 2011 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Alright, note from the author...

Wish I could have gotten here to do this yesterday, I aprreciate all the ffedback, thank you all.

I’ll say this, I had to re-write this about ten times. Even as I finished the article the other day, I really can’t see this happening. One thing became abundantly clear to me, and that is Nnamdi Asomugha loves California. Not saying he wouldn’t leave, but the man clearly has planted his roots in the area, and I wouldn’t blame him for not leaving.

One CB will not change the spread attack on our defenders, Phantaskippy nailed that, but he would create some more depth, and allow us to double a slot guy, if we felt the need to. Is he an absolute solution? Not at all. Would he help the cause? Yes, and I would say immensely.

This is an almost impossible sell, and I would even clasify it as a dream, but as far as I’m concerned he is the perfect Steeler, and a case should at least be made. I had a read a lot of “it will never happen” and I just wanted to present how it could, even if just in theory. The Woodley tag threw off the whole original idea, which was signing Asomugha and saving money, while not taking too much of a hit defensively.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 22, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

Well, I thought it was splendid,

and if you can’t dream a little, what have you got left? I’m just hoping that when the (almost) inevitable happens and somebody else gets Asomugha, that we’ll find that the FO had an even cleverer plan up their sleeves. Because I can’t imagine that Kevin Colbert didn’t notice that the secondary had some issues this season…

"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Feb 22, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I am a little late responding, but.....

I also dream that dream. Hope you are correct about our FO. I hate seeing these opportunities (to sign a top notch FA CB) pass us by. Asomugha could be the missing link that we need to make this the best Defense ever. Am hoping we can get either Phil Taylor or Marvin Austin to back up OR replace Casey next year. Also a good future DE. I also like the looks of Dontay Mochs (Nevada) as a future replacement for Troy, he is listed as a DE, but at 224 pounds will not play that in the pros. Because he possesses DB speed and tenacity, I think he could transition over to be a Troy clone. – but there I go dreaming again. Have almost given up on our getting Mike Pouncey. Too much dreaming (lol).

by Allen F on Mar 7, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Polamalu is a West Coast guy as well

just saying

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Feb 22, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

i am sure

in a perfect steeler world, nnamdi would want to come here. but with his bargaining power, he has the chance to play for many up and coming/winning teams that will pay him. if none of those come thru then he can always stay in oakland or go to dallas or washington. plus raiders may be on an upswing and dallas has no where to go but up.

in the NFL, it’s really hard to chase rings, the best place is probably the pats ($93mm payroll) but they are one of the cheapest franchises in the NFL. unless you are going to go to a “dynasty” like deion did w/cowboys. or you had the chance to go to montana’s 49ers or the steel curtain, it is a huge risk. i am sure if we were dominant and could almost guarantee nnamdi a ring, he might come here for $3-5mm less. pgh has had the most success in the last 7 years of any team in the NFL but with the parity is is very possible we don’t win another SB for another 3-5 years, maybe even 10. not to say we won’t be competitive but winning the SB, you have to be lucky as well as great.

asking someone to take $3-5mm less on the chance you can predict the future is asking a lot. randy moss is the perfect example, he got to 18-0 before the giants stole his ring. the grass always looks greener until you get there. if nnamdi is smart, he goes to a good team with a SB chance (maybe falcons, eagles, jets?) where he can get paid. but at the end of the day, probably crazy al davis pays to keep him or the cowboys take him.

by kk99 on Feb 22, 2011 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

Signing a CBA would help

Frankly, a lot of the free agent stuff is in limbo until everyone knows what the rules will actually be next season.

by theobserver on Feb 23, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

here is the champ bailey's quote after re-signing

One thing I’ve learned, the grass ain’t always greener," Bailey said Tuesday after signing a four-year deal with Denver. "I could go to an organization that looks like they’re ready and then they’re not ready and then I’m miserable because I’m around a lot of unfamiliar faces and in an unfamiliar place.

this is exactly what i said, you cannot gamble significant money, thinking you are going to play for a winner unless they are joe montana 49ers or steel curtain dominant. it is too hard to pick a SB winner for the next 3-5 years as it is too cyclical and random. the minute you start chasing a ring in what looks like a sure bet (randy moss) football fate turns on you.

there are no Celtics/Lakers in the NFL and that is a good thing for football.

by kk99 on Feb 23, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

One Thing Champ Can Bet On

Unless it’s an act of God – Champ will not be on a SB team the duration of this contract he just signed. He needs to fess up. It’s all about the Benjamins.

by Allen F on Feb 25, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

here is the bottom line

no NFL player has gone to a new team (even a SB contender) without being paid top dollar. lebron could do this b/c his salary is no more than half his income.

until we see huge endorsement deals for NFL players (like jordan and lebron), players will never chase a ring for substantially less $ unless they have no choice. champ did what everyone else does, stay home unless a title contender pays top dollar.

i am sure champ might have come to the steelers if we gave him $43mm for 4 years, with a soft guarantee of $22mm. it’s always about the benjamins.

by kk99 on Mar 1, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Sad But True

I like what Mike Bibby did in the NBA. He bought out his contract instead of playing for the Wizards (perennial losers) making him a Free Agent and freeing him to sign with the Heat, who stand a good chance of winning it all. Although I despise the Heat and Lebron, I like the initiative taken by Bibby. He made good money over his career and evidently invested it well. Now he is free to seek that championship ring that has eluded him over the years. I do not know if Asomugha invested as wisely as Bibby or wants that ring bad enough. But, it would be nice to have some Bibbys in the NFL. This would be an opportunity for him/them to play on the best defense ever. With his (Asomugha’s) inclusion and a good NG – Phil Taylor or Marvin Austin in the draft, our defense would not be equaled by any – past or present. Also, if we obtain Phil Taylor in the 1st round there are enough quality DE’s for us to get a good one in the 2nd round. I am basing this on our not being able to get the quality OL that we are seeking in the 1st round and going for defense instead with our first 2 picks.

by Allen F on Mar 2, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Broncos

Signed Bailey to 4 years.

by biggcat on Feb 23, 2011 7:08 AM EST reply actions  

now that champ set the market

nnamdi is going to get seriously paid, unless something drastic changes in the new CBA. i see nnamdi going to the eagles, jets or cowboys. i think the eagles are a real possibility b/c they are willing to pay and gave Assante a pretty big contract when he came from NE. and they have already expressed interest. it is a rumor packers are interested, but they probably don’t have the $ (cap space is ok, but revenue is tight) and they already have so an abundance of CBs.

i think he probably wants to play for the eagles or jets. many players like rex ryan but doubt they will have the room to keep their receivers and add nnamdi. not sure, but i think they have to let cromartie go if they could get nnamdi. i am sure rex and mgt would be ok with that.

at this point, to play for the steelers, nnamdi would have to give up like $12-25mm over the life of his contract. no sane person would give up this kind of $. champ has just killed our nnamdi pipe dreams.

by kk99 on Feb 23, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  


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