I Knew It!
I knew Troy was hurt worse than the Steelers were letting on in the playoffs. Turns out, his Achillies was injured. This explains his being a non factor in the Super Bowl and the playoffs.
I read that the Steelers were out in force at Wisconsin's pro day and that Kugler worked out Carimi, Moffit and their center. Of course, the Steelers would be interested in Carimi, some of our mockers have mentioned him, but what about Moffit? Can anyone tell us about him and the possibility of the Steeelers selecting him in the later rounds?
Here's a question for all you big brained mock drafters: What about John Clay in the middle rounds? He slimmed down to 233 for his pro day (Down from 270 against TCU in the bowl game). We, as Steelers fans, are always looking for the large back in the mold of Jerome, could this guy be a candidate?
All this information came from the same piece at SI.com. In said piece, Don Banks also talked about the fact that the Hated Patriots won't draft a player represented by Tom Condonbecause he was Ben Watson's agent and he gave the Hated Patriots a hard time in negotiations. This goes with what I've always thought: You have to be a sucker to be a Patriot. They are always talking players into taking less than market value contracts, as do the Steelers, but the difference is, the Steelers still end up against the cap, the Hated Patriots are way under it. I think the Steelers do it to make sure all their players get a fair wage, I think the Hated Patriots do it to save money at the players expense. I don't think they care about their players anywhere like the Rooneys do. So anyway, if you have an agent who is going to get you a fair deal, the Hated Patriots don't want you.
I was reading James Walker the other day and he had a little article about the Bengals'quarterback busts, with Carson Palmer being the only exception as of late. I think it is time to label the organization a quarterback killer. Consider this, the steelers drafted Lawrence Timmons in the first round and he didn't start until his third year. And now he is a beast. Would he have been considered a bust on other teams and given up on too early? I think one of the qualities I see in Tomlin is that he does not give up on potential unless he absolutely has to. The Steelersseem to understand that developing a player is a process and that some players seem to take longer to get going. I think the Bengals and other teams don't understand this as well as being poor at developing players past what they walk in the door with.
This leads me to Sean Kugler. What are his capabilities when it comes to developing offensive linemen? I've seen a lot of coments in mock drafts about drafting a lineman who needs finishing and letting Kugler "Coach him up". It is good to have a line coach we all have confidence in, but how good is Kugler? And, if he is really good, why not make Spaith (SP?) a tackle? And, if the Steelers were not able to get a great offensive lineman in the draft, what are the chances the line sees marked improvement in Kugler's second year using the same cast?
Then there's Carnell Lake, very intriguing. I think he has as much potential for bust as success. I mean, he really only has one year of coaching under his belt, albeit a good year. I am curious as to why he quit what seemed to be a good job? But I am excited to have him. He is like a first round draft pick on the coaching staff. Expectations are high, the future is unknown.
Also seen: Mike Tomlin at the University of Miami's pro day. Can you say Brandon Harris? How long has it been since we drafted a shutdown corner in the first? Or, how long has it been since a corner met expectation for the Steelers, excluding Ike? Anyone?
Here is a nice look at secondary prospects:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/14795835/draft-preview-primary-secondary-prospects
Interesting what is said about Dowling, who is ranked 9th overall. Interesting about Moore too.
Go here to see Walterfootball.com's multiple round mock draft, as well as their 2012 mock draft:
http://www.yardbarker.com/jump/41
What, Seaton Hall and Steelers, no 2012 mock draft? Slacker.
Somebody is delusional if they think those two teams will be in the Super Bowl next year! Sure, at the beginning of the year, those two are going to be in the Super Bowl every year, but at the end of the year? Not! You would think the professional writers would catch on sometime.
Today is the last day of the extended CBA. I wonder if Vegas has odds on the NFLPA and the NFL getting a deal done? Or, extending the deadline yet again? I bet they can't get a deal done, but they extend the deadline. Pure guess.
At this point, I'm thoroughly confused as to who to be rooting for. The owners include the Rooneys and I should be rooting for them, but they also include Kraft and Jones and I don't want to root for them. The Players Union, kind of the same. But, further than that, is the eighteen game season just a bargaining chip? Are the owners really suffering (Relative term - they own football teams for Gods sake) under the burden of infrastructure debt? What do football teams really profit in a year? How does the business model apply to football? I learned, once upon a time, labor costs should be around 75% of costs. Is that true in the NFL, where the players were getting around 60% of income? How does this all work, does anyone know, or is this one of those life mysteries that can never be answered?
That's all fo today, I think.
GO STEELERS!
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Good post
with lots to think about.
I am not surprised about Troy being injured. He just didn’t seem to be himself.
It is amazing what a difference it can make when you let a player develop instead of writing him off too soon. I think Ziggy may have been in the same boat as Timmons as a guy who is developing more slowly than some but I think it will pay off. I am hoping Sweed gets it together as a WR or is able to be converted to DB. He has far too much talent for it to be wasted.
"Canada? I don't even know what street it is on." Al Capone
"Until I can to Canada, I didn't know that snow was a four letter word." Alberto Manuel
"I wouldn't say it's cold but every year Winnipeg's athlete of the year is an ice fisherman." Dale Tallon
"If it wasn't for the anticipated flooding it will bring, Spring can not get here soon enough this year." COSF
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 11, 2011 2:22 PM EST reply actions
Sweed is a good point...
The Steelers haven’t given up on him. I don’t think he makes it as far with other teams.
And Lewis?
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
hopefully the same thing goes for him
James Harrison~ "We are not trying to hit nobody hard. We don't want to get fined" *blank stare* /end sarcasm.
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Mar 11, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
Maybe Lewis can be a receiver ;-)
"Canada? I don't even know what street it is on." Al Capone
"Until I can to Canada, I didn't know that snow was a four letter word." Alberto Manuel
"I wouldn't say it's cold but every year Winnipeg's athlete of the year is an ice fisherman." Dale Tallon
"If it wasn't for the anticipated flooding it will bring, Spring can not get here soon enough this year." COSF
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 11, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
on the owners you are right
jerry jones is against the salary cap and revenue sharing, without these, small market teams will eventually be like baseball. jones, snyder and kraft have much more revenue than the average team and account for about a 30% of all NFL operating profits. most NFL teams do not make much money, in 2009 steelers $18mm, packers $9.8mm. compare this to cowboys making $150mm.
whoever told you that labor is 75% of revenue was dead wrong, you would be BK within six months in pretty much any business. most companies look to pay employees max 40-42% of revenue, the NFL pays currently about 51-53% (it is a complex formula based on “football revenue or total revenue”). the owners originally were looking for players to take about 47% of revenue, now they are up to 48%.
about 80% of total revenue in the NFL is shared amongst teams. small market (which means smaller revenue) teams need and obviously want revenue sharing. jones is obviously against it (or for less revenue sharing).
in some ways jones is for the players b/c by decertifying the union the salary cap and free agency may be shot down in court. so really there is no right side here, it just depends upon each side’s point of view, there is probably no true wrong or right side.
one thing i did know all along
is there would be a lockout. owners are not going to give out all their financial info and players know that. no super rich person ever shows their tax returns unless they are going for a loan and even then they try to avoid it.
this is not a battle between owners and players, it is a battle between the smaller market teams who are not making much money vs. the jones, snyders and krafts who have figured out how to make a lot more $ by creating revenue that isn’t shared. small market teams cannot get their hands on the same additional revenue, which limits their profitability. there is only one place to get this money and it is from the players. obviously players don’t care much about that, they just want to get paid and will not take a lot less money without giving it their best fight. unfortunately, this means we will likely be missing football games.
75% of expenses maybe
I would think that staff could easily be 75% of expenses for many firms.
"Canada? I don't even know what street it is on." Al Capone
"Until I can to Canada, I didn't know that snow was a four letter word." Alberto Manuel
"I wouldn't say it's cold but every year Winnipeg's athlete of the year is an ice fisherman." Dale Tallon
"If it wasn't for the anticipated flooding it will bring, Spring can not get here soon enough this year." COSF
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 11, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
and that is one of the main problems
players, because they get a direct revenue cut (less certain taxes and they don’t get a cut of a hot dog sale, owners get to subtract out the cost of the hot dog before sharing the rest with the players) the players are not a variable but a fixed cost.
even if an owner lost say $100mm in one year, players would still get paid the same. most all companies would be able to reduce compensation in relation to lower profits or losses.
it makes it real tough to run a business. plus owners, if they are smart, only care about increasing revenue that is not shared. why would they look for additional sales, if they just have to share it with the other teams and players. there is no incentive to increase revenue, unless you keep 100% of it. jerry jones and dan snyder have learned this lesson all too well.
yea, i now see he said costs/
but costs or expenses are totally different than revenue, players salaries are not based on costs, they get a percentage of revenue, not costs.
John Clay
I think he would be a great pick in the later rounds,something this team has missed since the BUS retired,would be a great short yardage back, big and strong and runs over players this would be a great pick.






























