Seven Round Steelers 2011 Mock Draft: One Week to Go Edition
Alright guys so I've thought about this year's draft for the Steelers in about a dozen different ways, and throughout my travels on the internet I have seen much of the same for us when it comes to mock drafts. So in an attempt to mix things up a bit, this time I'm going to try and give you somewhat of a unique look at what I think could happen late next week during the 2011 NFL Draft. It'll still be relatively conventional in the sense that it will address the bigger needs of the team --OL and CB -- but a couple of the picks may be a little off the beaten path. Let's get to it. Feedback welcomed and appreciated.
Round 1, Pick 31: Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
Ht: 6'1" Wt: 198 lbs DOB: 5/9/1988 POS: #2 Corner with #1 Potential
I consider myself a member of the growing group of Steeler fans who wouldn't mind seeing Dowling selected by the Steelers with the 31st overall selection come April. Here's my post about that idea from last month. Simply put, Dowling is a baller, a hard worker, and a just a stand up character guy. Logic normally dictates that a man with Ras's size, speed, and potential should have no business being selected and likely considered a reach at the end of day 1 in this year's draft, but this is not your typical cornerback crop-big athletic freaks are numerous; see Peterson, Amukamara, and Smith for other tall and fast corners to understand what I mean. The only rational explanation that allows Dowling to slip this far is because of an injury-riddled senior year and another injury at the combine, which has subsequently kept him from working out at his initially scheduled pro day a few weeks back. Dowling did end up working out on April 5th, and work out he did, clocking a 4.36 40 yard dash time and reportedly looking very good in drills.
Mike Mayock (as pointed out by Dracula_in_Cleats) has moved him up into his top 5 corners, and from the link in the previous sentence NFL "grandfather" Gil Brandt was also impressed with his showing, citing that he may have sneaked into the bottom of the first round. If selected Dowling lining up at #2 cornerback spot would not be insane to believe as he has the size, speed, and skill set to matchup with outside receivers and plays the run well from what I've seen. If not he could act as a nickel/dime corner who could potentially double as a backup safety if need be. His character, competitiveness and locker room presence fit what the Steelers look for in all their potential players, and his addition could be an immediate upgrade to a secondary in serious need of an overhaul.
**********
**********
**********
**********
Round 2, Pick 63: Sam Acho, OLB, Texas
Ht: 6'2" Wt: 262 lbs DOB: 9/6/1988 Pos: Initially a Backup/ST LB with the Chance to Replace Harrison
Let me preface this pick by saying that the idea of drafting Acho, like the one of drafting Dowling is gaining some momentum in Steelers nation, as I've seen it pop up in several of the most recent mocks here at BTSC and in other places around SBnation and the internet. Anyway, I know drafting an OLB in the second round back-to-back years seems counter-productive, but hear me out. We all know that Kevin Colbert and Co seem to have a thing for linebackers, especially ones that can make QB's soil themselves upon reviewing game film in the days leading up to a game against the vaunted Steelers defense. Sam Acho fits this mold. A tough and relentless pass rusher who doubles as a very good sound run defender, Acho is seen as a good technician who has great character and competitive drive.
If I were to give a player comparison I'd probably have to go with Tamba Hali of the Kansas City Chiefs. Some will think LaMarr Woodley when they see the near identical-measurables between the two (in terms of height and weight) but two of Woodley's strongest assests coming into the NFL were his strength and ability to anchor the run, which are the two biggest areas in need of improvement in Acho's game. Back to Hali and Acho-both were defensive linemen coming out of college, and their respective heights and weights come within an inch and 10 pounds of each other. Both have and had questions about their playing strength, and tendency to over-pursue while both were praised on their pass-rushing and character.
It is important to note that with this pick the Steelers would not be giving up on 2010 2nd rounder Jason Worilds. On the contrary, adding competition at the position will only make Worilds better as he tries to battle for the next starting spot at the OLB whenever and wherever it become available, which leads nicely into my next point-the future. James Harrison will be 33 in 3 weeks and has had two back surgeries this offseason while LaMarr Woodley is only signed through next year, assuming that the Franchise Tag is still valid following the new CBA agreement. Doomsday scenario is that Harrison's aging process has been sped up by the surgeries and Woodley and the Steelers never come to a long term contract agreement.
Now, being an optimist when it comes to football, I'm not agreeing with either of those views-I believe Harrison has a good 2-3 years left of all-world production, and that Woodley and the FO will get a 6-year extension done before football resumes again-but even if things work out for the best, we need to have depth at the position. If Thaddeus Gibson were still on the team I don't consider Acho at all at this pick and neither do the Steelers. Seeing as how he's not, the only viable back up OLBs on the roster are Worilds and Timmons, and moving Timmons out of the ILB spot where he's become a force to be reckoned with is a last-resort.
You want to have the security and the luxury of having 2 quality players who can come off the bench and "maintain the standard," and while nothing is certain yet about Acho and Worilds on whether or not they're capable of this (I like how Worilds filled in last year), they are in the best place possible for young, talented linebackers. Working under the direction of LeBeau, Butler, and Tomlin, three men with the supreme wisdom to rival that of Charlie Sheen's, I have to believe that at least one of either Acho or Worilds becomes an eventual "quality player" if not both, and that at least one if not both will be seen as Harrison's eventual replacement. Admittedly I think getting Acho as late as 63 may be a bit of a stretch but not out of the question, and getting him there would be a strong value pick.
**********
**********
**********
**********
**********
Round 3, Pick 95: Jah Reid, OT, University of Central Florida
Ht: 6'7" Wt: 321 lbs DOB: POS: Right Tackle
big_jay made this same pick in his latest mock draft and I tried to differentiate in my own, but couldn't find a tackle I thought was a better fit at this selection. Reid presents exactly what the Steelers look for in a tackle: size, strength, and a mean streak. With a lot of questions remaining about who will line up at tackle for the Steelers when football finally does return, adding one in the draft will be of chief of importance. Flozell Adams is ancient but still effective. It remains to be seen if he'll retire or not, but his status
is up in the air. Willie Colon is likely to be a free agent, and it may be difficult to resign him when he hits the open market.
So again viewing the world through "the end is nigh" glasses we could potentially have Tony Hills or Chris or Johnathan Scott starting at right tackle next football season. Scary, scary thought. Again, being somewhat of an optimist when it comes to football, I think we retain at least one-I think it'll be Flozell-but there will still be a need for depth and a tackle for the future. Even if Colon and Adams are both retained it's imperative we get a young guy in there to develop, as neither Starks nor Colon are young anymore, and Starks is coming off a pretty serious neck injury.
Jah Reid, in a lot of ways reminds me of Colon. Both went to smaller schools and both are those big mauling types, and Reid looks to be further along than Colon was when he entered the draft. I like this glowing scouting report done by Mocking The Draft. It may be a little more positive than most evaluations of Reid currently out there, and suggests that he could be taken as high as the end of the second round. In all honesty I wouldn't mind seeing us take him that high, but that may be a bit of a reach. It may not be out of the question though as Reid wowed at his pro-day, in which all teams were present for. Ultimately his combination of size and quickness are hard to find, and would be valued in the Steelers blocking scheme. There are some questions as to how he'll adapt to the NFL level of competition as UCF does not face top-end college football teams all that often. Most of his drawbacks are concerning technique-hand and arm extension, redirecting, scout's talk that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, etc.-but with a coach the caliber of Sean Kugler in charge of his development, I like Reid's chances.
**********
**********
Round 4, Pick 128: Stephen Burton, WR, West Texas A&M
Ht: 6'1" Wt: 224 lbs DOB: POS: #5 WR-Potential #1?
And here I was thinking I was only the only one who read the Walter Football blurb on Stephen Burton's amazing pro-day (he ran in the 4.3's and had an awesome first 10 yards indicating great burst off the line). In any case I'm going to agree with big_jay again, and say that we take a shot at Burton here, as a man with his size and speed would be a bargain in the middle rounds. The selection of Burton would be an attempt at finding that "big receiver" Big Ben has asked for in the past, and while I know 6'1" isn't towering height it'd still be good for the tallest WR on the roster assuming Burton could beat out Limas Sweed for a roster spot.
That's another thing, I'm not entirely convinced Sweed is a "bust" yet. Whenever football resumes the Steelers will give him one last shot at making the team-Mike Tomlin says he is still in the teams plans, but competition is getting "stiff". Drafting Burton would make that competition even more stiff (yuk it up TWSS'ers) but there's no denying the physical gifts (dammit) Burton possesses. As mentioned earlier he clocked a blazing 4.38 at his pro day and has great jump ball ability, to go along with a willingness to block and toughness after the catch. Remind you of anyone? I can't think of anybody either.
It's not often receivers weighing in at over 220 can run that fast and also be a willing blocker. Then there's the fact that aside Ward, the Steelers don't have a true #1 WR on the roster (and that's not really the case with Ward anymore this far along in his career). Mike Wallace is the closest thing to it that we have, as he commands a lot of attention from opposing defenses because of his lethal speed, but he needs to continue to prove he's not that "one-trick pony" as Tomlin put it or in other words "just a deep threat."
The likes of Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders, while promising project as slot wideouts and #2 receivers only. The need for a physical receiver who can haul in 70+ passes a year without second thought is needed, and Burton shows some of those qualities. While it remains to be seen how he'll adjust from the II level of competition to the NFL, I could see the Steelers grooming him as a #5 WR early on, and then increasing his role as he gained experience. He could also see some red-zone targets early in his career due to his ability to go up and get the jump ball.
Makes a few Appearences in this video. Not the best quality. He's #11.
************
Round 5, Pick 162: Chris Neild, NT, West Virginia
Ht: 6'2" Wt: 319 lbs DOB: 12/1/Unknown POS: Backup Nosetackle
A fierce leader, hard-working, lunch pail blue-collar football player who fits right into the classic mold of a Steelers player. He's also a local and Colbert tends to take under-the-radar players from Penn State, Ohio State, and West Virgina in the later rounds (see Ryan Mundy, Doug Worthington, Rodney Bailey, AQ Shipley, and Matt Kranchick) and try and give them shots at making the team.

Neild projects inot a role at backup NT similar to that of Chris Hoke's. He won't do anything other than really play the run and eat space, but that's all you can ask of a nosetackle, especially one that is a backup. He has the optimal size for the position, and doesn't need to add too much more weight room strength. He's said to have the ability to occupy double teams and disrupt the run game. I think this is the type of player John Mitchell loves to have to work with. WVU's coaches rave about Neild's work ethic and presented him with award given to the player who conditions and works out the most in the offseason (see video below). With Chris Hoke's status as a free agent up in the air, Neild, if drafted, could be put into an active NT role relatively early on if Hoke is not a member of the roster next year. Having played in the Mountaineers wacky 3-3-5, Neild already has experience at the Nose, and would improve with coaching.
************
Round 6, Pick 196: Willie Smith, OT, ECU
Ht: 6'5" Wt: 311 lbs DOB: 11/13/1986 POS: Back up Left Tackle
Sure he'll be a 25 year-old rookie, but he flashes potential. At this point in the draft I think it's pointless to take a tackle unless the front office thinks he can play left tackle. As it is we'd have about 5 right tackles if you counted Reid Colon and Adams, and the left side is left pretty vacant after Starks and Scott. Smith is a converted tight end who is said to possess good athleticism, the foundations of very solid fundamentals in pass protection, and decent but far from dominant run-blocking ability. He'd be another project for Kugler to attempt to turn into a respectable player, and could push Tony Hills for whatever the hell it is that Hills does for the Steelers. My guess would be Big Snack's personal hot dog attendant, other than that your guess is as good as mine. In any case it'd be an interesting camp battle to watch if Hills returns to the Steelers when football resumes.
Round 7, Pick 234: Mana Silva, Safety, Hawaii
Ht: 6'1"Wt: 206 lbs DOB: POS: #2 Safety Eventual Starter?

I'll attribute this one solely to SteelCage who brought Silva to my attention in this excellent fanpost the other day. Silva is a little known safety who transferred from Oregon State to Hawaii in 2008. The man has tremendous ball skills, racking up 14 interceptions in his career at Hawaii, and while I can't find a scouting report anywhere on him, his 4.44 40 yard dash time at his pro-day would suggest that he's pretty darn quick too.
Add that and the 6'1" 200+ frame and you got yourself a football player. If he were drafted his initial role on the team would be a reserve safety and special teams player if he were to get a hat on Sundays. Who knows, maybe if Carnell Lake can get to him we could see Silva and Polamalu side-by-side one day, which for Silva, seeing as how he's Samoan and wears the #43 could be a dream come true.
***********
***********
***********
What's Missing and Why:
Defensive End-Mainly kept out because I know very little about the 5-techniques in the middle-to-late rounds, I don't doubt that the Steelers will try and add a Defensive end on draft day, it's just that I wanted to present information on players that I had an inkling about. Also, isn't there a man named Sunny Harris still floating around the organization? I know he's been inactive for nearly his entire career, but correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall it taking Brett Kiesel some time to crack the lineup, back when he was young and beardless.
Kicker/Punter-I would like adding Alex Henery as much as the next guy, but somehow I just don't see the Steelers doing it. In today's NFL you can find a good kicker just about anywhere-rookie free agency, MLS, the park, you name it. That and the Steelers are seemingly pretty confident with what they have in Shaun Shuisham, especially since the Kickoffs were moved 5 yards forward. Punter is a different matter, but seeing as how Sepulveda's latest knee injury was his non-kicking leg, I think he'll be back and in form before too long.
Tight End-I tried but just couldn't bring myself to do it. There's some speculation that the Steelers may draft a TE as high as round 2-a Lance Kendricks or a Luke Stocker-but I don't see it. Heath Miller is still in his prime, Matt Spaeth, although mediocre, will likely sign the tender he was offered and David Johnson will most likely be retained.
A Second Corner-Not having the Steelers draft a 2nd corner in this draft is the thing I hope the most that I'm wrong about. While I would love the Dowling pick, he'll probably strictly be an outside corner, not quite fluid or quick enough to play the nickel. They need a speedy guy to plug into nickel and dime packages. I think free agency may hold the answer with Baltimore having multiple potential candidates, the most appealing being a Josh Wilson or Chris Carr.
An ILB-It's not a Steelers draft without an LB in it. I gave that distinction to Sam Acho, so I decided to forgo grabbing another one to line up inside. Besides I've become a fan of Stevenson Sylvester; I really think he could be an above average starter a year or two down the road.
49 comments
|
Add comment
|
1 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
There's no way in the world Baltimore lets go of Wilson
And Wilson is too good to be just a dime or nickle.
I really wouldn’t mind Dowling in the first if the FO is not worried about his injury stuff. I think the NT pick would be a waste because you are basically drafting him for the PS and it seems like recently we have not been able to hold onto DL down there. Burton would also be another waste pick IMO. We have 3 players in the exact same mold of him. Sure he may be an inch or two taller, but that doesn’t do much. If we want a tall guy he should be 6’3 at the least. We need him as a RZ threat, not a burner. I’d be terrified of getting another guy who would encourage Ben to “go for it all” every other down.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
Nice Work
This wouldn’t be a bad draft, and would fill some holes. Dowling may be a bit of a reach in Round 1. However, if the FO really likes him, I would not be opposed to taking him that early because he likely won’t be there at #63 overall.
I don’t like drafting a LB that early. We have needs at other positions that are greater. I would rather see them take an OT, OG or D-lineman in the 2nd round over a LB.
I agree with John Stephens If they draft a WR, it should be a bigger guy.
Ehh
I like the Dowling and the Reid picks.
I’m not one of the guys on the Acho bandwagon. I think he’s got potential to be a good player for us, but I just don’t see the Steelers taking him. We have too many needs to spend another second round pick on an outside linebacker. Harrison, Woodley, Worilds, Farrior, Timmons, Foote, Fox, Sylvester… if anyone goes down we’re deep at the position because Timmons can move outside and STILL be awesome. Fox has looked good when he’s played and everyone is pretty pumped about Sylvester… I think spending a second round pick on a guy who’s going to struggle to make the roster or dress just because of the depth is a mistake.
I’m with John on Burton. If we’re going to do it, let’s really grab someone who’s 6’4" or something. I do hold out hopes for Sweed though. He’s just so talented, it’ll be sad if he really does bust.
Timmons can move outside and STILL be awesome
Dear God no. That means you take your most dynamic player out of the middle of the field. Timmons should not be an option at OLB unless Harrison, Woodley, and Worilds go down. I even might sooner go with Foote.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 21, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
ehhhhhhhhhhh
I agree we don’t want to move Timmons unless we have to, but we need the outside pass rush more than we need a superstar inside. Will there be a dropoff? Yes – but this defense is built around the outside LBs more than the inside guys. I’d rather sacrifice some dynamic play for solid play in the middle and maintain solid play on the outside.
Solid play is an understatement of the performance Timmons put up last year. If you do not have Timmons in the middle it makes Farrior look a lot older. A pass rush wouldn’t matter much, because there would be a lot of quick slants over the middle open.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 22, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I said his play was dynamic
and if we move him out of the middle, our play in the middle would still be solid, IMO. The point about the quick slants is valid though.
I dunno about that. Farrior looked really slow in 2009 when Timmons was hampered by the high ankle sprain. Well anyway, I hope the situation never arises that we need to consider it.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 22, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont buy Dowling as a number 1 pick
And as much as I agree you can find a kicker anywhere, getting someone as accurate as Henery is nearly impossible. I would be less surprised to see the Steelers draft Kyle Rudolph in the first than Dowling.
The Poster Formerly Known As Gimpsta7
by Michael Uhlhorn on Apr 21, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
Why don't you like Dowling?
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 21, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Dowling
Just not in the first. I think there is better value there in Williams or Harris. And I think they come with less risk. If we traded up for Dowling in the 2nd, or if he were available at the end of round 2, I am all for that. But not in the first.
The Poster Formerly Known As Gimpsta7
by Michael Uhlhorn on Apr 21, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m beginning to think it would have more value to trade out of the first and take Dowling with an early second pick. That is, if we could get a deal. I guess that depends on what happens with Sherrod.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 22, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree with this
I think the Steelers should either trade up for someone they love, or down to get better value. But they shouldnt just draft at 31, just to keep a first rounder.
I also wouldnt object to trading with the Redskins or Dolphins and taking their first next year.
The Poster Formerly Known As Gimpsta7
by Michael Uhlhorn on Apr 22, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Liked it a lot
I’m not on the Acho bandwagon, mainly because I’ve never been blown away by him. He’s always been good…. but that’s it. He’s not a world changing OLB and really it doesn’t seem to me like he ever will be. He really never seemed to blow me away when I watched him vs OU, A&M, and the first half vs Nebraska. Really, drop his stats vs FAU and he looks extremely average, honestly more than a third of his production in the TFL and Sack categories came against the owls. I’d be for moving up in the third to get him, but there seem to be better options available, and really, we don’t need to load up at the strongest position on the team.
Other than that, I’d rather take Henery, especially if he falls into our lap. He was one of the decades best, and a fifth rounder for him would make me more excited than Dwyer in the 6th last year. I haven’t watched Burton b/c I don’t watch much lower 1A ball, so I’ll hold off on judgement.
Overall though, good job!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Apr 21, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
All for Dowling
I like Dowling as a #1 pick. He was a #1 pick coming into the season and only because of injuries did his stock drop. He’s got a lot of the qualities that the Steelers like in their CBs. He is a physical guy who can make plays on the ball.
I don’t think Acho is a good pick. That would mean there are two second round draft picks sitting on the bench behind Harrison and Woodley. When are they going to play? Jah Reid isn’t bad. I don’t see room for another WR especially with a fourth round pick. I agree that the Steelers need a big WR but there is value late in the rounds for a bigger receiver but WR is not a priority this year. Neild could replace Hoke and provide Hampton a breather now and then. Don’t know much about the last two picks so I won’t comment but I like the positions that you went after.
Big difference between Keisel and Harris is that Keisel wan’t cut three times by two teams. Sepulveda has had three knee surgeries. He needs to be replaced and Henery can be a punter even though I feel he would be a better place kicker. He could be drafted as a punter this year then if Suisham doesn’t work out, which his history says it’s very possible, Henery can move right in.
While I disagree with some of your picks, I commend you for the effort and in-depth analysis you put forth. Really nice job on your part.
Proud fan of Pittsburgh's professional sports teams and the Pirates too.
by Black&GoldTrain on Apr 21, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
Neild Won't Replace Hoke
Hokie is too valuable across the line…knows the defense and how it works…is cheap insurance and gives Hampton plenty of breathing time. Maybe next year!
"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo (1970)
Yeah
The only way I see us taking a NT is if it is in the first 3 rounds. That way they might cut Hoke and let Ziggy play some NT while the rookie develops.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 22, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
And yea I do like Henery a lot but it’s hard to project where he’d end up being drafted. My guess would be early 5th round, and I’m not sure if he would be worth that late 4th round pick, but hey, that’s where Sepulveda was drafted so I wouldn’t count it out.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are are said to have been "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 21, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt cry if we picked dowling but on some mocks he is being taken in the 3rd round. 1st could be a stretch considering how the draft may fallout. I see dowling sliding into mid second round.
I would rather move up in the second to grab dowling and use my 1st round pick on a talent that falls to bottom of 1st round into our lap.
As for what I dont think steelers will do and I dont really like then I would say drafting another linebacker and another wide receiver in the first four rounds would be a mistake because we would be stacking players in positions.
I wont go over who we have at what positions because its been done a thousand times but id rather see all that competition at corner, o line, and safety.
We have a team that was a half a drive short of winning the superbowl so id rather just fix the immediate problems and let future issues like WR and OLB lie dormant for now.
by Dracula_in_Cleats on Apr 21, 2011 7:05 PM EDT reply actions
what would we have to give up to move up 10-15 spots in the 2nd?
by MAN_OF_STEEL_86 on Apr 21, 2011 7:49 PM EDT reply actions
To go from 63 to 50, the value chart says we would also need to give up our third pick.
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
thats not too bad
it would be pretty awesome to get williams and dowling in the first 2 rounds or williams and house. maybe we can get house at 63? thanks maryrose
by MAN_OF_STEEL_86 on Apr 21, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
We could trade out of the first into the top 15 of the second, use the extra picks and one/some of our own later ones to get another in the 2nd-3rd round. I would prefer quality at a few key positions this year. 4 picks in the first 3 rounds, maybe 5 at most in the top 4 rounds.
Don’t be shocked if they take a DL in the 1st, due to the depth at CB/OL in this draft they have that luxury if a guy they covet is available.
BPA
Hate to say it, but the Steelers stay true to their board and draft mainly guys who drop unexpectedly. Rudolph would be less of a surprise than Dowling.
How do you know they will have Rudolph ranked above Dowling?
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 22, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree actually
But if we don’t take one in round 1 it may be hard to find one worthy of a second round pick. Allen Bailley and Jenkins from Clemson may be decent day two picks but I’m not sure if either is worth a 2nd rounder. There’s also Jerrell Powe to think about I wouldn’t mind adding him in round 2 or 3.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are are said to have been "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 21, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
HSS, Nice job!
others may quarrel, but their speculation isn’t really any more valid than yours. I like that you have some different options for us to debate…we learn more about other players that way! I’m not sure about Dowling myself, but I’m not responsible for making the pick. Now I need to go out and research some more players!
"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo (1970)
Lol thank you
That’s exactly what I was hoping to do-generate some discussion and bring some players to light that are a little under-the-radar.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are are said to have been "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 21, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is Dowling a reach at no. 31? ...
He’s a big physical CB with 4.36 speed who plays in a position that is weakest on your team. He is more of playmaker than Smith, Harris, or Williams and has better character than Smith. I love the kid and would love for the Steelers to take him at no. 31. I hope that they can trade down and still get him early second round. Those people who think Dowling will be there at the end of the 2nd round or even in the middle of the second round are mistaken. I still have this funny feeling that Muhammad Wilkerson is going to be there at 31 for the Steelers and they’re going to jump on him. He’s another 20 year old with great physical skills and a lot of upside, all characteristics that Kevin Colbert and Tomlin have earmarked for their 1st round picks since he’s been head coach. Still, here is my mock with one week to go and anticipating a trade down:
2. CB Ras-I Dowling, UVa
2. LT/G, James Carpenter, Alabama
3. NT Kenrick Ellis, Hampton
4. CB Curtis Marsh, Utah State
4. LT/RT Jarriel King, South Carolina
5. RB Da’rel Scott, Maryland
6. ILB Mario Harvey, Marshall
7. DE/DT Zach Clayton, Auburn
by datruth4life2.0 on Apr 21, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
I like the mock draft too. I was gonna say there’s no way we can trade the 31st pick and get a high enough selection in the second to grab Dowling and also get a 3rd but then I realized that you had given us an extra 2nd and 4th instead. I think one of the biggest misconceptions (I was guilty in thinking of it at one point) about this year’s draft is that we’ll be able to trade down from 31 to let’s say 41 and get both that 41st pick and an additional 3rd and 4th rounder. The 31st pick just isn’t worth that much.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are are said to have been "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 21, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent!
I LOVE your mock here. If this was the way our draft turned out I would be so excited I might wet myself. I think Dowling is a baller and worthy of our 1st round pick if need be. I also think Marsh could develop into a very good corner in our system.
by SpokaneSteeler on Apr 22, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
i see you joined us in the last month or so
first of all, welcome.
second of all, let it be know that datruth has been known to peg some draft picks just right each year. had mike wallace most notably a few years ago; and he was on Dowling and James Carpenter before the rest of the world warmed up to him. I’m hoping he’s hit another homerun or two with his prognostications this year.
if only i could get the dude to write for me regularly :)
Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)
by Michael Bean on Apr 22, 2011 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions
i do wonder though datruth
does the fact that you live in the mid atlantic keep you from seeing enough guys from out west? Not a knock or challenge, just curious. You always have to have some sleepers from your neck of the woods, but not as many from west of the mississip
Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)
by Michael Bean on Apr 22, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Blitz, I don't know, maybe so ...
Never really thought of that. I must admit, I am intrigued about the Silva kid at safety though I have never seen him play. I also think Greg Little could be a perfect Steeler replacement for Hines Ward for the future. I do probably watch SEC football more than any other conference though. I also base a lot of what I see on the Senior Bowl as well. I know it is just one game, but that one game showed me how much of a stud Mike Wallace was going to be and how much work Castonzo and Solder still need to be starting tackles in this league. Mark my word, Carpenter from Alabama will end up being better than both of them.
by datruth4life2.0 on Apr 22, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Great write up. Unless there is a real injury concern, I will really be disappointed if the Steelers don’t take Dowling first. He’s a top 10 CB, and a PERFECT fit for the Steelers defense. Hope this Aaron Williams v. Brandon Harris stuff is just a smoke screen. The Steelers are never going to have a chance to draft a CB prospect as good as Dowling until they go 4-12. I just hope that if the Ratbirds take a CB in round 1, as generally expected, that it’s Jimmy Smith. And unless there have already been trades up to take a 2nd round QB in the first round, and if Harris, Williams, and Dowling are all available at #31, the Steelers could take a calculated risk and add a 4th round pick by trading down with Buffalo for #34, Cincinnati for #35, Tennessee for #38, or Washington for #41 and likely still get Dowling (or Williams or Harris), and then use that extra 4th to take K Alex Henery.
I agree with you that the Steelers should draft another a DE to OLB conversion, but it doesn’t seem the Steelers do as they haven’t brought in one such prospect for a visit. Acho would be a great fit, but the 2nd round is too high for him, 3rd about right. I don’t think he’ll be there when the Steelers pick, but Kiper’s and McShay’s latest 3 round mocks still have him available there. If Acho isn‘t there in the 3rd round, I’d take Greg Romeus and convert him.
I’d love for the Steelers to take Mana Silva, but I think it has to be in the 4th round, if he’s still available even there. I checked the Combine numbers, and he is clearly THE most athletic safety of the 100 or so tested, and his size is equivalent to safeties on the Steelers roster. And he’s not just a workout warrior, he really was productive, 14 INTs and 155 tackles in 2 years.
Regarding O line, instead of taking 2 projects that might work out, I’d rather take one in the 2nd round that’s more of a sure thing, either James Carpenter — 2 time all-SEC LT who projects well to G, or RT Marcus Gilbert.
As you did, I would take a development NT in the 5th round, but it would be Anthony Gray of Southern Miss instead of Chris Neild. Gray, who’s been on site or invited, is a Casey Hampton clone, absolutely immovable, exceptionally strong (only DT to lift more was Paea), plays with great leverage and violence, and if anything is too aggressive (coaching correctable). Hampton is listed at 6’1", 325#, Gray is 5"11", 330#.
I agree with the commentators about WR, i.e. need a big one, don’t see what Burton adds. Already have pure speed (Wallace), fast and quick (Sanders and Brown), possession/move the chains (Ward). The Steelers need a big, jump ball guy. As an Austin resident and UT fan I’m pulling for Sweed, I remember all of the Vince Young to Sweed passes that were like that. But let’s give Sweed some competition. Two 6th-7th round guys who fit the bill are Tori Gurley of South Carolina (6’4", 216#), who will either be a bust or a steal, and Armon Binns of Cincinnati (6’3", 209#). A "2 birds with 1 stone" alternative pick would be TE Wes Sanders of South Carolina (6’5", 272#), who’s been brought in or invited for a visit.
I think the Steelers take a RB in the 6th or 7th round, a 3rd down-type to compete with or replace Mewelde Moore. Two guys that intrigue me that may be available there are FB Henry Hynoski of Pitt, and especially RB Mario Fannin of Auburn. Both can catch, block like FBs, and pound the ball on 3rd down if desired. Fannin is a terrific receiver, and ran a really incredible 4.37 at 239 pounds.
Thanks for the response
I’m a fan of some of the late round guys you listed-Gurley, Hynoksi and am intrigued by Fanin and Binns. I also am still rooting for Sweed to finally make it this year. I wonder though about your suggestion with Hynoski moving to FB. I thought he was strictly a FB.
I’m all for the trade down idea, I’m just not sure the Steelers will do it-Colbert has never done it before-but I guess there’s a first time for everything.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are are said to have been "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 22, 2011 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My sneaky way of getting the Steelers to take a FB
But in any case, why not as a 3rd down back? On those interminable 3rd and 3s when Ben goes in the shot gun, if Johnson or Heath is next to Heath there’s no running threat, and if Moore is back there there’s a weaker blocker and a limited running threat. Hynoski is a good blocker and weighs 260, can catch out of the backfield, and while not as shifty as Moore would be a load running for those 3 yards running behind Starks and Kemo. And he did run for 7,000 yards in high school.
Re: trading down, in a PG story about a month ago Colbert said while they haven’t done that before, this may be the year.
I still think there’s a chance they can get Pouncey. There’s 4 or 5 teams that are projected to take a QB in the 2nd round, and I don’t think they are going to wait to see who drops to them, they are going to want the specific guy they want (say, Andy Dalton), so there’s going to be some trades up into in the 2nd half of the first round (once 1 team does it, 1-2 more have to), and that’s going to make other mid to late 1st rounds guys drop, guys that teams might not have expected to. Pouncey could easily drop to the mid to late 20s in this scenario, and the trade value chart projects that the Steelers could move up 5 spots in the first by giving up their 3rd round pick. I think they’ve actually planned for this, because if you look at who thev’ve been bringing in, expect for WR where they’ve brought in 5 players who are rounds 3-5 guys, virtually everyone else in a round 1-2 guy, or 4 at the very earliest.
I'm glad Nield is getting some pub, I like him a lot in the late rounds.
We agree on the round and pick of Acho. I also have Nield penciled in, but later than you do.
Jah Reid… Hmmm. Going in to the Shrine Game, he was a late round, if not UDFA, prospect. I’m not sure what exactly caused his stock to soar that fast.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Apr 22, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
Reid's probably more of a 4th rounder
But he looked great at his pro day apparently. Mike Mayock went as far as saying he could see Reid as a starter in 2 years.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are are said to have been "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 22, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Great mock draft Tim
I’m glad to see you’re on board with Burton and Reid. The only issue I would have with the entire thing is taking Acho in the second round. I do think he’s a very good player with loads of potential but I think that after taking Worilds in the second last year the front office won’t take another DE/OLB so early given the depth already on the roster. I do however think they will take a linebacker as some point in the later rounds though.
Someone like Marc Schiechl from the Colorado school of mines or Jabara Williams from Stephen F. Austin would be great pick-ups in the 7th round, or as UDFA’s. Or Rick Elmore from Arizona in the 5th round.
Thanks
I think Monte Simmons from Kent State may be another 7th rounder/UDFA who could have some thinking Harrison 2.0.
A lot people like the OLB Friday from VT could be another late potential addition, despite the fact the Rebecca Black jokes would be brutal.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are are said to have been "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 22, 2011 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

by 









































