Because There's Little Else To Discuss at the Moment, I'll Play Devil's Advocate in the Willie Parker Discussion
Make sure you read that title twice. I'm taking a stab at this primarily because there will continue to be no major NFL news until June 3rd when oral arguments are heard in a St. Louis courtroom.
Also worth noting up front is the fact that I am like the rest of you -- I don't think the Pittsburgh Steelers will show any real interest or put any substantive thought into bringing back Willie Parker; I do however believe that it wouldn't be a terrible idea to invite him to training camp (assuming there is one). And finally, I'll go on the record to say that if Parker does get an opportunity to make a roster in 2011, he will exceed expectations. Considering there are no expectations for Parker at this stage in his career, that might not be saying much. But I do think if he can make his way to camp with the right team, he will find a way to stick and conribute with the occasional carry in 2011.
A couple quick thoughts on why I see no harm in the Steelers bringing Parker to camp this year.
- First, what's the harm? At this stage in his career, Parker is looking for an opportunity to make a team, not sign a big contract. Obviously it would require the same level of financial commitment as it would to bring in any old undrafted free agent rookie that faces an uphill battle to make it through camp.
- Is it too much of a stretch to say that Parker's presence would be uplifting while also serving as a stark reminder to young and old players alike that fortunes can change in a heartbeat in this league, so best not take anything for granted? I don't think so.
- I say that partly because Parker didn't burn any real bridges with the organization or his former teammates. At least not that I know of. In other words, his presence wouldn't be viewed as a distraction by guys that Parker had alienated himself from at the end of his tenure with the Steelers.
Nothing too controversial there, but what about the fact that there doesn't appear to be any real niche on the RB depth chart for Parker to occupy? Well, it's hard to argue that the Steelers are in need of too much added depth or versatility at the position. Rashard Mendenhall obviously has established himself as a legitimate No. 1 workhorse back; Isaac Redman was adept in short-yardage situations and proved he can pass-block, catch the ball out of the backfield and fit in nicely within the team concept; Jonathan Dwyer is eagerly awaiting the chance to see the field; and either Mewelde Moore or Baron Batch look like solid candidates to play on third down.
All told, the Steelers don't appear to be lacking bodies at RB. But what happens if Mendenhall or Redman suffers an injury?
For those who believe that Parker has never, and will never, be the same type of explosive back since he broke his leg in Week 16 of the 2007 season, a year in which his rushing title dreams were dashed when he broke his fibula in the opening moments of the Steelers' easy win over the Rams. True, Fast Willie probably said goodbye forever to his world-class speed on that unfortunate Thursday evening. But it wasn't just recovering from the broken leg that set him back so noticeably the following season in '08. Parker also injured his knee late in the Steelers' atrocious 15-6 loss to the Eagles early in the year. A freak accident in which he stepped in a pothole during practice re-aggravated the injury in October. He also dealt with a torn labrum later in the SB season, an injury that did not require surgery. And finally, and perhaps most importantly, Parker was hampered by a lingering toe turf injury for much of the 2009 season, a typically crippling malady that prematurely derailed the career of Jack Lambert and countless others.
That's a lot to overcome -- perhaps too much -- but don't point to the broken leg in December of '07 as the beginning of the end. Parker was hardly dominant in the 11 games he played in '08. But who could have been running behind that offensive line? The fact that he averaged 3.8 yards per pop in his 210 carries is fairly impressive actually. Don't forget, against a tired Chargers defense in the divisional round of the playoffs, Parker's explosiveness and speed to the edge reemerged. He made firm and decisive cuts en route to a 27-carry, 146-yard and two touchdown performance.
Since helping the Steelers win Lombardi No. 6, Parker has carried the ball a grand total of 98 times, all during his final season with the Steelers in '09. 52 of those carries came before the sixth game of the season in mid-October. He had zero rushing attempts last season in Washington.
Translation: the man has had plenty of time to finally get healthy.
And it's not as if he's had to recover from many years of absorbing bone-crunching hits. Parker accumulated very little wear and tear during his college career at North Carolina, and his 1,253 regular season career carries is nearly 1900 fewer than LaDainian Tomlinson's career total of 3,099 and nearly 1,000 fewer than Clinton Porti's 2,230 career carries. Parker's total is also just a handful more than the total of 25-year old Adrian Peterson (1,198), and fewer than Cedric Benson (1,256), Julio Jones (1,280), Frank Gore (1,371) and Willis McGahee (1,541) to name but a few of the active backs. There's just no reason to necessarily categorize him in the same class of backs who have taken a beating physically for a prolonged period of years.
Speaking of which, Rashard Mendenhall might not be able to handle such a huge workload this season. His 324 carries last season were the 123rd most in a single-season in league history, and three more than Parker's total of 321 in '07. Mendenhall had 61 postseason carries last season though giving him 385 on the year. If you're a believer in the 'Curse of 370' then you might be concerned that Mendenhall's in for a less productive season in 2011. Hopefully not, but whether he averages 5 yards per carry or 3.5, I sure hope Mendenhall's carries are limited to the low 300 range at the very most this coming season.
So, in conclusion, again I'll say that I don't think it's going to happen -- Willie Parker's days in Pittsburgh have probably come and gone. But were the Steelers to invite him to training camp, I would support the decision wholeheartedly. From where I'm sitting, it'd be just as cost-effective to sign Parker for a one-year deal at the veteran minimum as it would be to re-sign free agent Mewelde Moore to a two or three year deal at what I imagine would be around $800-$1.1 million per season.The Steelers could then use some combination of Parker, Isaac Redman and Baron Batch as your third-down backs, with Redman handling short-yardage situations and the trio of Redman/Parker/Dwyer competing for the infrequent series to give Mendenhall a rest.
If he looks fresh in camp, great, you've got yourself an experienced change of pace back to spell Mendenhall throughout the year, insure against an injury to any of the RBs, and play on the infrequent passing down (Parker was a plenty adept pass blocker). If he looks slow and not worthy of a precious roster spot during camp, so be it. No harm no foul.
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Give the man a shot but not a roster spot
I feel bad but i think he is opening the wrong door. There are other teams with RB need than the Steelers.
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Yeah, invite him, but not guarantees
Honestly, if the guy didn’t see time w/ the Skins last year, there’s probably a good chance he’s done, but hey, why not?
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on May 23, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions
llast year
I think the fact that he didn’t play last year was a good thing forhim. Allowed him to truly heal up.
Also, its not surprising Shanahan wouldn’t play parker last season. His job was secure for the foreseeable future so why not see what else ya got.
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by Michael Bean on May 23, 2011 7:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Regardless of what happens,
I’ll always be a Fast Willie fan, the guy gave us some great years and was a model Steeler on and off the field. Hopefully he finds success.
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I don't think a public campaign is the right way to go aout it...
I always wondered if there was some character issue that prompted his release. I did feel that beyond losing his fast, Willie just wasn’t willing to fight for the tough yards any more. He seemed contact shy.
I will always have fond memories of him though. I would not be opposed to him earning a spot with the Steelers again.
I loved Willie, but what about Plaxico?
It would be great to see Tomlin give Plax a shot. Great comeback story, I’m sure Ben wouldn’t mind either. Plus, we all know Tomlin will keep Plax in check. Ben got a second chance, no?
I would do backflips for Plex.
Not just because he was my favorite as a 14-year-old.
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plax didnt just shoot himself in an unfortunate accident
thats the reason he’s in jail, but people forget that he was having a lot of trouble with the giants prior to that happening. he was late for meetings, his work ethic declined, i think they even suspended him for a game for missing team activities. no way i want him back especially with all the young talent we have at receiver chomping at the bit for playing time.
by steel.curtain.number2 on May 24, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Plax is 34 and has been out of football since November of 08
Not to mention his production was already starting to decline that season.
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by LV Steelers Fan on May 24, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Plax is a prick. I’d rather have Sweed out there
"We didn't worry about the calls," Harrison said. "When you're getting a lot of penalties against you, it brings you together."
by kick him in the head on May 24, 2011 11:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No thanks to Willie and HELL NO to Plaxico.
I want the Steelers to find the next Fast Willie and that’s not going to happen if an old, worn out vet is taking up a roster spot. The average running back does not last long in the NFL and Willie has shown that his bets days are behind him. I would love to be proven wrong, but this team needs to get younger, not older.
Let Plax go to the Raiders, Cowboys, Bengals or some other team that harbors miscreants. The Steelers have an exciting corp of young receivers. Let Hines teach them how to be Steelers and keep Plax away from them.
Invite him to Training camp
But I really cannot see his place on the team unless we dump MeMo. Mendy is the undisputed starter, Redman and Dwyer(who i am really excited about) will battle for #2 duty, and that leaves Parker to find a way to show he is better than MeMo, which will be hard considering MeMo’s proven track record as a reliable 3rd down back
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Memo
Add on to that the fact that Tomlin effectively brought Memo with him from Minnesota, and I think it’s unlikely they drop Memo for another vet from a previous era.
Yup
Maybe if injuries occur he could be a signing mid season or the like. I do not expect him on the roster come opening day
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by Michael Hewitt on May 24, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Really Rob?
Being a Steelers fan who is lives in NJ, it pained me to see Plax dominate the playoffs the year The Giants last won the superbowl (go back and watch the NY vs GB playoff game Rob ). The following year we all got to watch Santonio dominate the playoffs for the Steelers only to see him go to the Jets and almost take them to the superbowl 2 years after.
I am pretty sure Kevin Colbert would slap you Rob for suggesting that The Pittsburgh Steelers draft miscreants. I can’t even name one player we let go who ended up on any of those teams you mentioned. (aside from Gary Russell, who was no miscreant)
Regardless, I have supported my Steelers through these decisions with little pushback. I’m just saying, I’m a little tired of seeing the most annoying fans in the world reap the benefits of our loses.
He shot himself in the leg Rob, I lived here when Jayson Willaims got 18 months in jail for accidently blowing some guys face off with a shotgun. Sorry Bean, I know this was supposed to be about Willie.
see above
plax has tons of other issues other than his jail time. plax can go to the jets where they dont care if you’re a pain in the ass
by steel.curtain.number2 on May 24, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
We would have kept Plax had it not been for the unfortunate fact that we also had Hines' contract run out the same year
All things considered, I don’t think anyone could say we made the wrong choice.
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by LV Steelers Fan on May 24, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Really
>Being a Steelers fan who is lives in NJ, it pained me to see Plax dominate the playoffs the year The Giants last won the superbowl (go back and watch the NY vs GB playoff game Rob ). The following year we all got to watch Santonio dominate the playoffs for the Steelers only to see him go to the Jets and almost take them to the superbowl 2 years after.
Yes, it pained all of us to see Plax dominate, but he wasn’t going to sign with the Steelers anyway. So, it doesn’t matter who he played for at the time, he wasn’t a Steeler. So, why should we take him back now? He’s trouble witha capital T.
>I am pretty sure Kevin Colbert would slap you Rob for suggesting that The Pittsburgh Steelers draft miscreants. I can’t even name one player we let go who ended up on any of those teams you mentioned. (aside from Gary Russell, who was no miscreant)
Colbert doesn’t draft micreants? What are Holmes and Plax? He might not know it at the time, but some turn out that way eventually. Then they’re gone.
Bengals had TO, Ocho, Chris Henry, etc. Raiders are the Raiders. Cowboys had TO and now Dez. Those aren’t miscreants? Let those teams take everyone elses loser players. The Steelers don’t want them.
>He shot himself in the leg Rob, I lived here when Jayson Willaims got 18 months in jail for accidently blowing some guys face off with a shotgun. Sorry Bean, I know this was supposed to be about Willie.
So what. He’s a ME player. He shows up late to practice, is a distraction and is a bad influence in the locker room. Too many other good players out there then to try and relive the glory days with a has been.
after reading the article twice (since i have so much to do)
i recalled reading an article over at nlf.com a month ago about Willie Parker joining the UFL. i’m not quite sure what the contraction regulations are, but did read somewhere that the NFL team wanting a UFL player has to put up 150000$ in order to get the player.
Very well thought out post, Michael.
I always had a soft spot in my heart for Fast Willie and thought he had some very big shoes to fill when he replaced The Bus. I mean, that’s an almost impossible task.
I don’t see where there would be any room for him, but he could be a serviceable back-up for some team. He may have lost a step or two but he has enough in the tank to be on someone’s roster. I know that much.
Fast Willie Dressed Up With No Place to Run
First Michael, given all I have read, I think you’re right. There is little chance the Steelers will give Willie Parker a shot.
The question of whether they should or could benefit from it is another one.
My gut reaction is to say no.
I agree with your arguments. Being out of football should have helped him. He was quite banged up, and by comparison, he has a lot fewer carries on his body than other NFL running backs still doing at least respectably well.
And if you think back to that clock killing, impose your will final display that Willie Parker put on to seal the win in his final game against Miami, it is tempting.
But just don’t think the Steelers want to look back on this one. Its not that they have a “don’t let the door hit you in the as_ on the way out policy like they did under Tom Donahoe” but I think they want to move in a new direction.
Ultimately, to answer the question, it all comes down to whether or not the Steelers think that Barron or Dwyer can cut it.
by Hombre de Acero on May 23, 2011 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting argument
I always have claimed to be FWPs first actual fan in the NFL. And I have people that can back this up. But I won’t bore you with the story.
Anyway I agree 100% on his body of work. He was hurt in the last couple years, but prior to that seemed like one of the best backs in the game. Hell, he WAS the best back in the game before breaking that leg statistically speaking.
He had a very great ability to turn what should have been -3 rushes into 0-1 yard gains. Which was handy with our O-line.
I think with the O-line improving via Pouncey and possibly Gilbert this year, FWP could have a second shot here.
We don’t know if Dwyer is even worth a ham sammitch. Willie could replace him. I’d like to see him develop but we don’t know anything about the guy and he was a late rounder. Can’t expect much there.
If FWP shows up healthy and isn’t afraid of getting hurt, he could be an asset for another season or two.
If it comes down to Dwyer vs Parker, I would take Dwyer if he shows anything in the preseason
FWP is a known quantity. He could indeed have a year or two left but the only thing he ever really had was great speed and that has obviously been reduced since 2007.
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by LV Steelers Fan on May 24, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Joining BTSC
I had lurked on BTSC for about a year. Watched FWP break his leg against the Rams in 2007. Listened to the announcers gleefully congratulate Fred Taylor for getting to his first Pro Bowl at the expense of FWP. I was livid. Joined BTSC that evening and posted about how callus, unprofessional and antagonistic the announcers were towards Willie’s injury. The rest is BTSC history.
BTW, love FWP but if came to Dwyer vs Parker, youth wins every time. It won’t though. Dwyer is 3rd RB. Parker would be battling for the 4th spot.
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OMG
I remember that. Bryant Gumbel is such a tool.
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by LV Steelers Fan on May 24, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember you posting that comment, back when I was just a reader and not a commenter. The site has changed SO much since then.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on May 25, 2011 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a small rear view mirror....
It will be better to give 2 or 3 udfa a try out than an old favorite
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Bring him back
He was always a favorite Steeler of mine, and the 39 jersey still hangs proudly in my closet.
I don’t see the harm in bringing him in, just for camp. He isn’t ridiculously old and has seen fairly little carries for his age.
If he doesn’t make the team, at least allow him to retire a Steeler.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on May 24, 2011 4:36 AM EDT reply actions
Why Not Willie?
- Once the season starts we will need to start quick. We will have missed games and there will be a short quick training camp with lots of knee, hamstring and ankle injuries. We will need depth at RB. We are 1 injury away from starting Redmon and Dwyer. Nothing against them but are they ready for a playoff game against Baltimore? Why not Willie?
- Mewelde is a FA. Batch is an untested rookie who hasn’t seen the playbook yet. Also a couple FA RBs on the roster. We are in the market for a 4th RB who may or may not dress on game day. Why not Willie?
- Not looking for a feature back, just one that could carry the pigskin a couple weeks until Redmon or Mendenhall get healthy in case of injury. Why not Willie?
- Willie didn’t fumble in the 3rd quarter of a Super Bowl game with the Steelers gaining momentum. He ran 75 yards for a TD and also had a 145 yard 2 TD game in the playoffs versus SD in 08. He led the Steelers in rushing in both Super Bowl’s he played in. Willie is a big game player with 2 Championships. It’s just a shot. Give him one.
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wait a second
I was with you until the last point
willie didn’t have 3 defensive guys jumping on him behind the line of scrimmage either…. just sayin lol
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by tannofsteel84 on May 24, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
But still...
FWP didn’t screw the pooch even when most of his runs were like 2 yard gains.
Mendy OTOH…. really shit the bed there with his fumbleitis. We need to fix that.
that fumble ruined 90% of the hope I had
for salvaging that game, there was still the last drive but I still can’t believe they ran it in that situation. GB had loaded up to stop the run, got some rest between quarters, it was perfect for play action. Granted I had no clue mendy would fumble but I still hear myself telling everyone on the room, ‘They better not run!’. lol Sometimes you hate it when you’re right.
I don’t blame mendy for that as much as I do the play call, it was an impossible situation.
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by tannofsteel84 on May 24, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we get Stefan Logan back instead?
"We didn't worry about the calls," Harrison said. "When you're getting a lot of penalties against you, it brings you together."
by kick him in the head on May 24, 2011 11:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
ugh.. i never liked having him
wasted roster spot for 2 years. its not that he wasnt good at what he did. but having a pure return man (that arians could never find a way to utilize in the passing game) was just wasteful. we couldve cut him in 2009 for a ST gunner and maybe we wouldnt have let all those TDs go by and maybe we make the playoffs.
i know maybes are worthless, but still. it always frustrated me
by steel.curtain.number2 on May 24, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
And sadly
He DID have a few good plays in the game and yet BA just couldn’t comprehend what he had. Such a moron.
this
but the only question is could he block well enough, you dont want to put in a 3rd down back thats gonna get your QB killed.
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by tannofsteel84 on May 24, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
he was listed as a receiver IIRC
by steel.curtain.number2 on May 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't mean you can't make
him a RB
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by tannofsteel84 on May 25, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice writeup
I’d bring him in as veteran insurance against an injury to Mendenhall, Redman, or Dwyer.
He doesn’t have very good hands so it might actually be kind of a stretch for him to make the team even in the event of injury. It would have to be a nod in favor of veteran leadership.
The only negative I can see it that it might continue the trend of Pittsburgh picking up it’s FA losses on the next contract. I’m sure Tomlin doesn’t care about things like that.
by Steely McSmash on May 24, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
I would love FWP back in black and gold
But, I don’t there is spot for him. Also, I actually do think he would cost more than a rookie UDFA. Because of his years of experience, he would require a vet minimum, correct?
And, as a third down back, he’s gonna be fine for blocking, but his receiving skills would be an issue.
Emotionally,yes. Logically, no. I wouldn’t mind him on the preseason roster though, because he could showcase himself for other teams.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 24, 2011 12:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I stated my opinion in another thread, but I'll add a bit here
The Steelers offensive blocking scheme doesn’t fit well with an undersized speed back anymore. Willie would be a lot better off going to a team that ran a ZBS, instead of the Steelers power blocking scheme they run now.
That being said, if Willie wasn’t the feature back, he could do very well as a Sproles-type guy. However, I seem to remember him having Sweed hands most of the time, so the RB screens would shoot us in the leg (see what I did there?) for the most part.
I still say no to even bringing him in at all. You would think that with all these guys wanting to come back home (El, Foote, B-Mac, Parker) it should give Ike a clue as to what he should do with the rest of his career.
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Only on deep balls
Just like Sweed, he could catch stuff short. But anything deep just fell to the grass.
I distinctly remember one play and I can’t recall which game, but it was over the shoulder and it slapped FWP’s hands and fell to the ground. It was like watching somebody play hot potato.
I don’t think he’s really 3DRB material though.
2009 Camp
I remember a lot of people throwing to Willie and he a catching touch you would expect from a OL! He was even worse in the open field where he consistantly took his eyes of the ball.
by 1969 NM Steeler on May 24, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
All of the backs........
with the possible exception of Julio Jones that you compared Parker’s carries to, are bigger,stronger backs than him.
And it’s not just ‘carries’, but ‘touches’………Not to mention hits given/taken when blocking. I don’t think FWP has much left for the NFL.
At what cost?
A fourth back that may or may not add anything. Mendy had a heavy year last year, hopefull Redman get the ball more this year, Dwyer looked good at Danver last preseaon…then dinged a shoulder – and there is still MM or Batch for some 3rd down efforts. So we hold a spot for the injury of 3 RB’s – not tha tFWP could ever catch a ball soe the third down back is out of the questions (man I would think that given the 2010 season we would be screaming for extra OL and DL instead). FWP had his day and then like other choose money over team…so now the team need so to chose the future over the past.
by 1969 NM Steeler on May 24, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
Go with the kids, Slowing Willie Parker is always a phone call away ...
If Dwyer can make the same leap from year 1 to year 2 that Isaac Redman did (particularly when it comes to blitz pickup) then I think Dwyer could really help this team this year. His running style (one cut and go) works well with a power running game.
RB’s are a dime dozen. You can pick those up during the season.
by datruth4life2.0 on May 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
I tend to agree with Datruth
But I would take him to camp for veteran miminum. He can compete with Dwyer for the fourth spot. If he’s cut, he’s only a phonecall away in case of injury and the guy has been through your practices, knows your playbook. Who knows? We could have a comeback story!
We could also have honesty, candor and transparence from Roger Goodell…
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FWP couldn't make the it with the redskins
even though they run a zone blocking scheme. He had great numbers when our line was great, but combine his slowing down with our line and I see no upside at all.
Give the kids a chance. If there are injuries or complete busts then I guarantee Parker will be available by his phone. Thanks for the memories FWP, but your time as a productive player in the NFL are over.
It actually cost more than a UDFA (I believe)
There is a veteran minimum for each position, while the UDFA minimum is smaller. ( I believe)

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