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Grading the Steelers 2008 Draft

I originally published this on my draft website, draftdatabase.wordpress.com

During this quite period, I am going to take some time to grade the 2008 NFL Draft. We will look at the Pittsburgh Steelers draft today. When you look at this draft there is really only one pick that has had a siginificant impact on this team and that is first round pick Rashard Mendenhall. Outside of that only two players have had any role at all and they are Ryan Mundy and Dennis Dixon. Overall, this was not one of Colbert's best drafts and some could argue that it was his worst. 

Starters: 1 (Mendenhall)

Contributors: 3 (Mundy, Dixon, Hills)

Never Contributed: 2 (Davis, Humpal)

Undetermined: 1 (Sweed)

Round 1 Pick 23: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois: Pick Grade: A

This was by far the best pick of this draft. Mendenhall has been exactly what the Steelers needed as one of the best RB’s in the league. He has been a workhorse and is coming off his best season ever. His rookie season was ended as soon as it began but since then he has only gotten better. His carrying has improved and his vision has as well.

Star-divide

Round 2 Pick 23: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas: Pick Grade: D

What a waste of potential so far. Sweed had shown in his first three years an incredible ability to get open but he routinely dropped wide open passes. This past season he was injured the entire year due to a bum Achilles. He has one more season to try and prove himself. 

Round 3 Pick 25: Bruce Davis, OLB, UCLA: Pick Grade: F

 Davis was probably the worst pick of this draft. He never made an impact and is already off the team. Not much more I can say about this pick. 

Round 4 Pick 31: Tony Hills, OT, Texas:  Pick Grade: C-

Hills has been a decent backup but has not gotten much playing time. There are rumors that he could become the starting RT if Colon is not back. This is his last year to try and prove himself (if the Steelers even resign him).

Round 5 Pick 21: Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon:  Pick Grade: B

Dixon was brought in to try and become the backup QB. He has shown some potential to be that but has not fully proven it. He will likely be brought back this year and be given one more shot.

Round 6 Pick 22: Mike Humpal, OLB, Iowa: Pick Grade: C-

Humpal did not last a long time. He only was on the roster for one season I believe and did not make an impact. However, you don’t really expect much from rounds six and seven so the grade won’t be too harsh. 

Round 6 Pick 28Ryan Mundy, S, West Virginia: Pick Grade: A-

Mundy has been a pleasant surprise. This past season he did a great job filling in when Troy Polamalu got hurt. He could eventually replace Ryan Clark at FS. 

Overall Draft Grade: C-

The Steelers failed to take advantage of any of their picks from rounds two through four. They found a decent backup QB in round 5 and a good safety in round 6. The first round pick is all that saves this from an F grade. Mendenhall has been a beast and is only getting better. 

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probably the worst draft of the colbert era

although that could change if sweed suddenly gets his stuff together. but im not feeling very confident about that anymore

by hasay on Jun 6, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Even if he does, there’s not a whole lot of room for him for the next couple years with Hines, Wallace, Sanders and Brown ahead of him, plus Randle El as well. Unless he turns it around big time in the preseason and shows he’s deserving of keeping around he’s not going to last past this year, if he isn’t already released before the season starts.

by Akshay R on Jun 7, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Icky-poo!

I can't WAIT for MTD to do their version of this post...

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by Steel Spike on Jun 6, 2011 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

You could have dropped Sweed

I mean his grade dropped immediately. I guess his status can’t drop too much more. I thought he dropped off the face of the earth. At least we didn’t drop him off the roster. Ok I’m going to drop the subject. Oh, by the way didn’t he used to drop passes?

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by PixburghArn on Jun 7, 2011 7:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Just drop it Arn

Why is the "football" not round and thrown around?

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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jun 7, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dropped...

Like a sure TD in the AFC Championship game.

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by PixburghArn on Jun 7, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Guys!!

Just figured I’d drop by and say hi.

by HandsofSweed on Jun 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

thanks for dropping in

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by PixburghArn on Jun 8, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you all cannot hold on to the serious convo in here, we mist as well just close this thread.

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
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by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

I dropped the ball

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by PixburghArn on Jun 8, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

John got the drop on us pretty quickly.

by HandsofSweed on Jun 9, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does drop 'em pretty fast

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by PixburghArn on Jun 10, 2011 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you can't handle it

Feel free to let go of this convo

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by John Stephens on Jun 10, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drop it like it hot?

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on Jun 10, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

dip it low

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jun 10, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

turn your head and cough

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by PixburghArn on Jun 12, 2011 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will,

as soon as my balls drop.

by HandsofSweed on Jun 12, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that didn't rhyme

the wave must just be a prop

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by PixburghArn on Jun 13, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

It’s more like a “flop.”

by HandsofSweed on Jun 13, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or,

It’s only us 2 now, so we should stop.

by HandsofSweed on Jun 13, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok you can go

The the rest left a mess go get a mop

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by PixburghArn on Jun 13, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way guys, don’t let this drop.

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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jun 14, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

hey….run there’s a cop!

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by PixburghArn on Jun 14, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Subtle

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by John Stephens on Jun 7, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bad

I know you are a Sweed fan. Actually I am too, but I can’t resist the temptation.

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by PixburghArn on Jun 7, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is no shame

I was driving the Sweed bus last year, and I even tried to continue the “Drop Wave” from your comment.

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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jun 7, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe I missed that.

I must have been gone too long.

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by PixburghArn on Jun 7, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had an inkling you’d missed it.

Losing your skills?

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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jun 8, 2011 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

just a little rusty

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by PixburghArn on Jun 8, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post

These would be my rankings:

Mendenhall B+
He doesn’t get an A because he still clearly has ball security issues. It was only in the SB that one happened at such a key moment.

Limas Sweed F
I’m all for him turning things around, but he has been an absolute bust so far.

Bruce Davis F
Who?

Tony Hills C
Good back up, but I’d like to see more from him.

Dennis Dixon C+
He has shown some promise of being a decent back up, but you have to be worried about 2 serious knee injuries to a mobile QB within 3 years.

Mike Hump Who cares?

Ryan Mundy B+
He has been a solid back up. I leave room for improvement in case he ends up becoming the starter and taking over for Clark.

Overall C-
If Sweed can turn things around this season I could bump this draft up to a B, but until then it is the one blemish on Colbert’s docket.

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by John Stephens on Jun 7, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I dont think its right to give Mundy the same grade as Mendenhall. I realize Mundy has less epxectations, but a B+ is too high. thats my only issue.

by steelerintexas on Jun 7, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s how grading a draft works. Say I have two players and they both end up decent starters. One is a 1st round pick and the 2nd is a 6th round pick. Considering the odds of a 6th round pick turning into a starter in the NFL is about 1 in 50 (or worse) and it is 1 in 3 for a 1st rounder, the 6th round pick was a lot better of a pick. Therefore, it should get a better grade. In this situation, Mundy is not a starter yet, but I think that is the path we are headed down. I give him a B+, the same as Mendy, because of that.

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by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Humpal

I’d give him an Incomplete. He had a neck injury if I recall correctly.

Worth note that Bruce Davis has gone on to collect 4 tackles as a Raider. ok maybe not.

I think Hills made some progress last year. If he continues on that trajectory and makes the roster once more, he could end up as a career backup or maybe swing tackle. Big IF I know.

If Hills and Sweed stick this year, I’d give it a B. Tough competition for both guys though.

by Steely McSmash on Jun 7, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

My rankings

Mendy: B+
He probably deserves an A, but I still a little too much dancing from him at times instead of just hitting the hole and getting a hard-earned 3-4 yards. Overall a very good player that still hasn’t peaked.

Sweed: D
The pick was good, but his production gets him a D. It would be an F if he hadn’t made any significant contributions to the team or shown any upside. After tearing his Achilles I really don’t see any way he can salvage his career. That’s a tough injury to come back from.

Davis: F-
A LB that doesn’t want to hit anybody? Not much of a LB. His career will be short in this league.

Tony Hills: D
Really hasn’t been able to do much of anything but take up space. I would’ve given him a much better grade if he was a decent backup. But when you can’t even surpass J. Scott as the top backup OT on the depth chart, you’re probably not very good.

Dixon: C+
He isn’t all that good, but he has been serviceable for us when Ben and Batch have been out. I don’t know how good he can become, but in the future he could be a very valuable trade piece for us just as Matt Cassel was for the Patriots.

Humpal: F
Never really made any contributions. Hardly any upside.

Mundy: C+
This grade will be a lot higher if Mundy proves to be a future starter, which I think he will be in another year. He’s been a good special teams player and even better backup when Troy is hurt. Even though he is the backup SS, I think his true position is FS. With steady improvement, I expect him to take over for Clark in another year.

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by StoneColdSteel on Jun 7, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I think getting a solid backup Safety in round 6 is worthy of a low A

you can not expect to get a starter in the late 6th round.

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by seton hall and steelers on Jun 7, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, at the least I would say it is a B+ like I gave.

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by John Stephens on Jun 7, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't rate backups as A's

Now if he was the type of backup that other teams were clamoring for, like a Kevin Kolb or a Darren Sproles, then I definitely would’ve increased it to a B or B+.

Same thing with Dixon. I would increase his grade if he were a little better and became a valuable trade piece in the future ( remember Matt Schuab?).

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by StoneColdSteel on Jun 7, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweed's injury a blessing in disguise for him; thought T. Hills made improvement during preseason

If Sweed would not have ruptured his achilles this past year, I don’t think he would have been kept on the roster. The Steelers drafted two WR’s and signed 2 more in free agency, so that kind of told you how much they were depending on Sweed. At least Sweed is starting with a clean slate since he has a new WR’s coach that did a great job with the young guys and helping Wallace take that next step. He has a chance this year to contribute if he has his head together. Gotta love that fact that he either has to bring it or pack his bags early because of the young guys he has in front of him.

With the draft of T. Hills, C. Scott, M. Gilbert and K. Williams, the law of averages says that the Steelers has to hit on a tackle sooner rather than later. The fact that T. Hills couldn’t beat out J. Scott for playing time was depressing. I’m curious to see how the OL will look if Willie Colon returns. Would you rather have he or Flozell starting at RT next year? Also, people talk about the hole at RG for the Steelers, but I think the Big Legursky did a credible job there when he played this past year. He did a damn good job in the Super Bowl because I didn’t hear the names of B.J. Rajii or Cullen Jenkins mentioned that often.

I think the Steelers need to open up Kemo’s job at LG and make him compete for that. He’s been here too long to keep making the same boneheaded mistakes. Plus, there were some games this past year where Kemo was dominated (i.e. Kyle Williams of the Buffalo Bills). Time for Max Starks to put up or shut as well. I was all for K. Colbert resigning him, but to me thus far, he hasn’t played up to those numbers. Can we find a LT somewhere, anywhere that can block T. Suggs of the Ravens? He’s good, but J. Scott made him look like the second coming of Lawrence Taylor.

And lastly, with the resigning of Keyaron Fox, I think this could be the best group of LB’s that the Steelers have had for a season during the Colbert era. I expect Worilds and Sylvester to make big jumps this year and Chris Carter appears to have bend coming around the corner and tenaciousness that says this kid is a keeper (see what he did against Gabe Carimi two years ago for a hint at his talent). It might be time for D. LeBeau to do something different on passing down to try and combat the spread — maybe replacing Farrior with Sylvester or letting Worilds rush from Harrison’s spot and moving Harrison inside next to Timmons where he can’t be double-teamed.

Ultimately, the Steelers ability to be successfully against all of the 4 and 5-WR pkgs will depend on the development of Crezdon Butler and Curtis Brown this year.

Keenan Lewis is toast, Gay can’t cover and McFaddens’ play has fallen off the past two years. Crezdon Butler could be HUGE for the team this year.

by datruth4life2.0 on Jun 7, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Disagree about Legursky

Dude is way too small to be a regular starting guard in the NFL. He was okay at times last season, but to rely on him for the long term is playing with fire. It’s not going to work. Looking at some of the highlights from last year, Foster was way more consistent than any other player the coaching staff put at RG last season. He struggled a bit, especially against the Ravens and Bengals at times, but both of those teams have really good defensive linemen.

I agree with you about Kemo. Many of us think that Foster/Essex were responsible for so much pressure to our QBs last season, when in fact it was Kemo who was responsible. His run blocking is solid every now and then, but his pass blocking and penchant for committing dumb penalties has gotten worse. I like Keith Williams as a prospect, and hopefully in a year or two he can eventually become good enough to upgrade that spot.

I wouldn’t expect major changes in the secondary. The rookies don’t have the benefit of interacting with the coaches or breaking down film with them, so the only young guy I can see having an impact this year is Butler. I, like you, am very high on him and would like to see him get some burn as the boundary guy with our starters in training camp.

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by StoneColdSteel on Jun 7, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kemo committed way to many holding penalties last year

Never was a fan of him

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jun 7, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't remember a lot of holding penelties for Kemo

but he did commit a lot of stupid personal fouls

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by WVPiratesfan on Jun 7, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep

Especially in the playoffs

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by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not so much about the personal fouls

It’s really about his poor pass protection because that affects Ben at least 10-12 times a game at the least. He is more of a liability at this point than Foster is.

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by StoneColdSteel on Jun 8, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Legursky is too small?

The guy is 6’1" and 315 lbs! Jeebus – how big does a guy need to be to play guard? He’s as big or bigger than any guard on the Packers this year – how’d that work out for them?

He’d outweigh Kemo if his head wasn’t filled with concrete. You don’t have to be 340 lbs and slow as an ox to play effective OL in the league.

by lkwdsteel on Jun 9, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many starting guards in the NFL are 6'1" or 6'0"?

It’s not all about size, but sometimes you do need size to be able to run the ball effectively, which the Packers didn’t do well at all last year.

Look how big the Saints’ guards are and tell me size doesn’t matter. Nicks and Evans are maulers in the run game and are both decent in protection.

Would you really want a short guy with stubby arms trying to block Haloti Ngata knowing that Kemo is on the other side probably getting beat as well?

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by StoneColdSteel on Jun 9, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

6'0" is very undersized.

Most would be around 6’3" I guess.

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by insertscreenname on Jun 9, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen Legursky block Ngata in person ...

And he did about as well as any Steelers lineman does against him, not that great but he didn’t give up any sacks. And Legursky didn’t look overwhelmed against the Jets and the Packers in the Super Bowl. If he’s one of your best 5 starting lineman and can help keep Ben upright, I say let him start.

I don’t go by the size thing on the football field. If you can get the job done, you can get the job done. During the times he played this past year, Legursky wasn’t overwhelmed and played pretty good.

by datruth4life2.0 on Jun 10, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we're seeing different things

Because the times I saw Legursky block Ngata were when he was getting help from Pouncey or when Ngata wasn’t really trying to rush Ben (trying more to contain him). There is no way on God’s green earth that Legursky blocks that guy one on one.

You guys are trying to make a career backup guy into a great starter for some reason. I don’t get it.

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by StoneColdSteel on Jun 10, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Legursky played center in the Super Bowl ...

and that R. Foster was the RG, but I think Legursky could start at G for this team and be an upgrade over Foster or Kemo. He’s not as big as those two, but he is quick, strong and doesn’t make mental mistakes.

by datruth4life2.0 on Jun 7, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Legursky

He should not be starting. His position flexibility makes him a great back up and I think he will do well in spurts when called, but with his lack of size, I believe he will get exploited and worn down the longer he plays.

by _ET_ on Jun 7, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

+64

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by Flying Polamalus on Jun 9, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody is an A in this draft

This draft was kinda fugly.

Mendenhall is a B IMO. When you consider the next guy drafted was Chris Johnson, I think we messed up somewhere.

Ball security is my only real beef with him. We remember the Super Bowl fumble, but don’t forget he fumbled one two weeks prior in the AFCCG and lost it.

It’s a concern when you have two in a row in the two biggest games of your career.

by Mechem on Jun 8, 2011 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s my big reason for not giving him an A. He definitely has fumblitis. He carries the ball carelessly and his arms flail out when he does all those spins.

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by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

+34

I saw him up in Toronto three years ago, and was immediately nervous. Now, he still has those moments you so aptly describe.

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by Flying Polamalus on Jun 9, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would much rather have Mendy than CJ

you CJ hard once and he goes into a shell, You hit Mendy hard and you bounce off of him

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by WVPiratesfan on Jun 8, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but CJ has the Mike Wallace affect. He might not repeatedly kill you, but he can have one run that will destroy you.

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by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

effect*

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by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

CJ probably would be mediocre in our division.

Baltimore would shut him down.
Clevelands run D is actually decent.
Same with Cincy.

All of us minus Cincy are 3-4 power teams, aka the teams that CJ struggles against.

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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jun 8, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s really hard to tell how good CJ would be if he was on a team with a competent pass offense. He got shut down a lot last year because they were so 1 dimensional. Both games were in 2008, but he did slice up both Cinci and Cleveland for 100+ when he faced them (both under 20 carries).

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by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

CJ also seemed to benefit from VY being a running threat, for what its worth

by tkired on Jun 8, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mendy is an A

IMO. We got him pretty late in the 1st.

by tkired on Jun 8, 2011 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Does anyone think Willie Colon could be a better RG than Ramon Foster?

Or if Colon stays, would you guys have him play his normal RT position, keep Foster at RG and have Flozell be the game day swing tackle instead of J. Scott?

by datruth4life2.0 on Jun 8, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Willie has never once in his time at Pittsburgh taken a single snap at G. That ain’t gon’ change.

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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jun 8, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t say I’ll be upset if we don’t resign Colon. The media always claimed he was our best lineman when he was in but i was never a fan. Just don’t think his play justified his price tag. Gotta hope Adams can stay healthy and give the rookie from FL a year to learn.

by Dobre Shunka on Jun 8, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

That's because he was our best lineman

You don’t need the media to tell you that. Just go back and watch some of the highlights from 2009 and just focus in on him. He did his job much better than anybody on that line. The eye in the sky don’t lie.

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Jun 9, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gave every pick an A

According to your rules, each pick filled a huge need and was the best player on your board, even though that has nothing to do with what they do today. Just because they are Steelers they get A’s basically.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on Jun 10, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Jun 10, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice one

And, we never have needs. Just wants. And I did not do this shit back in 2008 so I don’t have a board. Also, grading old drafts is based on performance not predictions so your entire joke is off. Suck it and go back to BB (j/k since you are secretly a Steelers fan)

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by seton hall and steelers on Jun 10, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta admit that I did like this draft when it happened. I was a big Mendenhall fan before he got drafted by you guys, as well as Sweed. I remember at one point, I was pleading for Ozzie to take Sweed in the first round. Thank god we didn’t and went with our future HOF QB.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on Jun 10, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't you have to be good to make it to the HOF?

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by seton hall and steelers on Jun 11, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, just gotta be one of 6 QB’s in NFL history to throw for 10,000+ yards in first 3 seasons, most wins in first 3 years in NFL history, only QB to go to the playoffs and win in first 3 years (all on the road). Also, gotta have the 2nd best QB rating in the NFL for the last 14 weeks of the season. No biggie.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on Jun 11, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also has the most losses to

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by seton hall and steelers on Jun 12, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big Ben in his first 3 years than any other QB in the history of the NFL

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by seton hall and steelers on Jun 12, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most losses vs. the Steelers than vs. any other team

by GDEUCE on Jun 14, 2011 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  


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