BTSC Steelers Six Pack: Trying to Remain Patient Edition
by Michael Bean on Jul 12, 2011 8:11 PM EDT
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PrintIX - I think most of us are plenty optimistic that the lockout will in fact come to an end in the near future. Even if preseason games are missed, it sure seems like there's a far smaller possibility that actual games will be scrapped from the 2011 season. That said, Erik Wemple of the Washington Post opines that perhaps we all need to settle down and remain patient, as there still seems to be considerable work left to be done at the negotiating table.
X -Calling all Steelers fans: want to be an extra in the new Batman movie, The Dark Knight Rises? Good, you're in luck. Producers of the new Batman flick are in search of extras to film a scene inside Heinz Field.
XIII - The Steelers still plan on holding training camp at St. Vincent College in Latrobe according to team president Art Rooney II. For the town of Latrobe, that's huge news, as the economic windfall from the Steelers presence is enormous.
XIV - Most Steelers fans aren't interested in seeing Tiki Barber join the team as a third-down back; plenty believe that the team can upgrade over Mewelde Moore, who's currently a free agent that could end up playing elsewhere in 2011; and though he's a fan favorite, it's too early to tell if Baron Batch will be a viable solution as a third-down option or change of pace type back. Where's that leave us? How about NBA point guard Nate Robinson? The Oklahoma City Thunder guard said he was interested in landing a tryout with an NFL team while the NBA deals with a lockout of its own. Of course, it ain't happening in Pittsburgh or elsewhere, but if Robinson were legitimately serious about conditioning his body to play in the NFL, I bet he could do it. He was a star football player in high school and was even on the University of Washington squad for a short while before quitting to concentrate on hoops. Check out this highlight reel of him from HS.
XL - Speaking of Baron Batch. This is a few weeks old, but Batch opens up about a personal battle he's dealt with his entire life, one that he's doing his best to get under control as he starts a new chapter in his life.
XLIII - Video time! Steelers 2010 season highlights:
Watch Part 2 ..... Watch Part 3
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Speaking of old RBs
Willie Parker recently posted on FB that he ran a sub 4.2.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
lol
dang, impressive if so. probably not very likely though!
i kinda think he might surprise people if he somehow gets an opportunity to carry the ball more than just sparingly. he’s not that old and he’s definitely had the time to fully heal up. dont think hes battered and bruised permanently myself. but it’s probably a long-shot that he’ll even get the chance to prove me right or wrong.
Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)
by Michael Bean on Jul 12, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if he knows it doesn’t count when he only runs 30 yards?
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Get Nate to Latrobe
Let’s try this guy out. He could be a great returner for specials or a 3rd down back. He also played corner in colledge so that could help us with our troubled situation at corner, especially if we lose Ike. He probably won’t amount into anything in the NFL. How cool would though to have a 2 time former slam dunk winner on your team.
Plus 1 and more
Me too. It a hot dusty place. But I enjoyed taking my family and 5 yr. old grandson to camp last year.
And hoped to do it again this year?
The more I learn -The less I think I know! Just enjoy reading and sharing.
by steeler junky on Jul 13, 2011 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Black and Yellow
Batman – wears black and yellow, is very scary.
Pittsburgh Steelers Defence – wear black and yellow, are very scary.
Suddenly it all makes complete sense.
And the Joker wears purple
It’d be funny if they do a cut scene with the joker running loose with a purple raw lewis jersey on and the batman comes in out of no where and takes a terrible towel from his utility belt and throws it at the joker’s feet and trips him up.
An adequate analogy to what happens every season between the Steelers and Ravens.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
All I have to say is, wow.
“If that man was on fire and I had to piss to put him out, I wouldn’t do it,” Harrison told the magazine. “I hate him and will never respect him.”
Harrison also criticizes other NFL execs, Patriots-turned-commentators Rodney Harrison and Tedy Bruschi (“clowns”), Houston’s Brian Cushing (“juiced out of his mind”) — and even teammates Rashard Mendenhall and Ben Roethlisberger for their performances in the Super Bowl loss.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
I gotta read this
because the author of this excerpt doesn’t give any kind of direct quote to how he ‘criticized’ his teammates. James has never directly done something like that so I wouldn’t be surprised if his ‘criticism’ was something that the writer is trying to make something out of nothing.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Was just quoted on ESPN for saying that Ben needs to stop acting like he is Peyton Manning and that if he is going to throw an interception, he should do it on the other side of the field. He also said “You are not Peyton Manning, you just get paid like him.”
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
http://www.mensjournal.com/jamesharrison
On the two interceptions thrown by Ben Roethlisberger in last year’s Super Bowl:
"Hey, at least throw a pick on their side of the field instead of asking the D to bail you out again. Or hand the ball off and stop trying to act like Peyton Manning. You ain’t that and you know it, man; you just get paid like he does."
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Well
what about what he said isn’t true?
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
well, one of those INT's was a tipped one- not really a neil O'donnellish gift.
brought to you by Carl Jr's.
True indeed
but still doesn’t change the facts. People get mad when you tell the truth.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
He really like the taste of foot
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
My guess is that your front office might suspend him for these comments. He is getting out of hand. Like I have always said, he is a dirty thug.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
I don’t see anything about Mendenhall though. My guess is he just doesn’t like Ben after last summer.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
In Deebo's Defense
He probably should keep his pie hole closed to avoid more fines and locker room dissension. That said, Goodell is a dictator, Roethlisberger played a horrible first half in the Super Bowl and Mendenhall stabbed the team in the heart with a crucial third quarter fumble in the big game.
I believe you win and lose as a team…but…I said it after the game in February; Ben played poorly and his INTs cost them the Super Bowl. Mendenhall’s turn over sealed the deal and made it impossible to dig out of the first half hole Ben put them in. I am glad 7 is our QB but he didn’t play well on 2 of 3 Super Sunday’s he has participated in. And hey Ben…“Deebo’s right about Peyton. When you run the ball, good things happen!”
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
I don’t mind it when players call their teammates out after poor performances, usually it will increase the other guy’s will to be better. However, Harrison’s tone in those comments about Ben was basically saying “Ben, you aren’t that good. So stop acting like you are even though the idiots in the front office paid you like you are.”
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
And
Ben is a great QB but he is not Manning, Brees or Brady. He is a different kind of QB albeit a winner. Harrison should not have opened his pie hole, but there is much merit to what he says. Kind of like saying Flacco is a decent QB who has performed above and beyond expectations but he is no Ben Roethlisberger…
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
Deebo's Rant - Interesting, very Interesting.
Guys, here are some of the excerpts from the article:
"My rep is James Harrison, mean son of a bitch who loves hitting the hell out of people," he says. "But up until last year, there was no word of me being dirty — till Roger Goodell, who’s a crook and a puppet, said I was the dirtiest player in the league. If that man was on fire and I had to piss to put him out, I wouldn’t do it. I hate him and will never respect him."
On high and low hits:
"I get dinged about three times a year and don’t know where I am for a little minute. But unless I’m asleep, you’re not getting me out of the game, and most guys feel the same way. If a guy has a choice of hitting me high or low, hit me in the head and I’ll pay your fine. Just don’t hit me in the knee, ‘cause that’s life-threatening. How’m I going to feed my family if I can’t run?"
On the 2004 season:
"I should have another ring. We were the best team in football in 2004, but the Patriots, who we beat during the regular season, stole our signals and picked up 90 percent of our blitzes [in the AFC title game]. They got busted for it later, but, hey, they’re Goodell’s boys, so he slapped ‘em $500,000 and burned the tapes. Was he going to rescind their Super Bowls? Man, hell no!"
On the two interceptions thrown by Ben Roethlisberger in last year’s Super Bowl:
"Hey, at least throw a pick on their side of the field instead of asking the D to bail you out again. Or hand the ball off and stop trying to act like Peyton Manning. You ain’t that and you know it, man; you just get paid like he does."
On Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu:
"He’s the one guy in football I respect absolutely, ‘cause he’s spiritual and lives it like he talks it. You know, he gets more flags than anyone on our team but never gets fined for nothin’. He’s so polite and talks so softly that he could tell he could tell Goodell to kiss his ass, and Goodell would smile and say thank you."
Thoughts?
by datruth4life2.0 on Jul 13, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
See discussion 3-4 comments above.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
If a guy has a choice of hitting me high or low, hit me in the head and I’ll pay your fine. Just don’t hit me in the knee, ‘cause that’s life-threatening. How’m I going to feed my family if I can’t run?
He just elevated himself to moron in my opinion.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
hence the following statement, if I can’t run. He is seriously referring to playing football here.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
He can’t feed his family on the 10$ million he got last year? Let me know when he is making 5 figures and then he can worry about feeding his family.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
He'd probably could
but he’d have to sell a lot of stuff to do it, frankly we don’t know his expenses to make that call.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Now that’s life threatening. How can a man live without 5 cars?
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Once you get used to 'standard of living'
Its hard to go back. Micheal Jackson had money issues. If you make 10 million dollars a year and you are spending 9,990,000 a year in expenses. Then you are only holding on to 10K a year. If you still have creditors asking for money its not difficult to see how if James lost his job today he’d be broke.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I don’t and never will by into the “woe is me” that celebrities and athletes try to push on people that make less than 1/10 of their salaries. Just because they poorly spend their money I am supposed to feel sorry for them? If you cannot balance your books that is your own stupid fault. And, if you are making that much and you don’t pay someone to do it for you, you might be even more of an idiot.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I never said you should feel sorry for him.
But who knows what his reality is, the reality could be that if he doesn’t get the rest of the money from his contract that he couldn’t feed his family. That’s his own mismanagement of money but that doesn’t change the reality of the situation. No one asking you to sympathize or even empathize with him. Just understand that its a possibility.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d argue that that is directly what Harrison is trying to do when he said that. If he didn’t want sympathy, he would not bring up his family at all.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats what you read into
If you read into the whole context of the sentence. He is simply saying how am I going to make money from football if I can’t run. Nothing about that has any sympathy card, its a real concern. Not something drummed up so we can shed a tear for Harrison, Harrison doesn’t care what we think so why would it make sense for him to play the sympathy card? It doesn’t. So I doubt thats what he was going for.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
remember his tax bracket...
after his agent and taxes, he probably only sees about 45% of that.
brought to you by Carl Jr's.
Its still a lot of money
and if he lives modestly then he shouldn’t have to worry. Which is always easier said than done. Its so easy for us to say, if I had that kind of money I’d never be broke. When you get that money in your hand, resisting the temptation to get everything you always wanted is great and many of us would succumb to it.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 13, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, 4.5 million dollars. That sucks!
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
And lets totally not think of the millions he rakes in from endorsements.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Just for reference. If I made 100,000 a year, a VERY respectable salary. It would take me 45 years to make 4.5 million.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I know its a lot of money, but people seem to think athletes get every last cent of a contract.
While on the subject, here’s a cool infographic on Michael Jordan’s earnings:
http://www.thisblogrules.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jordan-and-bill-gates.jpg
brought to you by Carl Jr's.
Seen that before
Pretty damn funny
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You forgot the taxes on your 100,000
so more like 68 years.
If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.
In regards to Polamalu:
You know, he gets more flags than anyone on our team but never gets fined for nothin’
Anyone know where something like this could be verified, becasue I think this is flat out incorrect.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 13, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Just last year?
Harrison 10 – 2
Taylor 8-0
Woodley 6-1
Mcfadden 4-0
Clark and Troy 2-0 each
1st number is penalties against, 2nd is declined or offsetting.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
2009
Timmons 5-1
Harrison 4-0
Farrior 4-0
Hampton 4-1
Tory 4-1 (in about 1/4 of the snaps)
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
2008
Troy had 0 and Harrison had 3
Looks to me like Harrison was kind of targeted last year.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Stats...man, dunna duna duna dunna, stats...man. (see, it's like Batman, but with stats)
Where you getting all them juicy penalty stats?
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 13, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
PFF premium stats holds them
Their price for next year was slashed in half too. Yay!
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 13, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I might sign up then...
I like their non-pay-to-read stuff, I’m just cheap frugal. Thanks man.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 13, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know why anyone is surprised by Harrison's comments. He's the modern-day version of Greg Lloyd/Jack Lambert
I find it funny how defensive players complain when the offense turns the ball over, but you hardly ever hear offensive players getting on the defense for giving up too many points.
Edible, keepable cake
That’s what both sides in the current impasse apparently want to have and which, of course, has never existed. Maybe the players figure that, if they can’t pry any deeper into the owner’s pockets, then they’ll blow off training camp this season as compensation. I’m sorry but I just don’t see what the big principle is in this standoff. Each party to the negotiations already has a lot more money than anyone needs. Why can’t they just be satisfied to play ball, take their cash and shut the hell up?
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