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Mendenhall Fumbles Again


I am trying really hard to like Rashard Mendenhall. When the Steelers said goodbye to Willie Parker I was melancholy. But after research I learned that Mendenhall had actually fumbled less than the usually sure handed Fast Willie. Maybe Mendenhall would be an improvement?

Star-divide

Willie Parker nailed a 75 yard TD run in Super Bowl XL to change the momentum of that game and give the Steelers the momentum they would need to go on to one for the thumb. In 2008 during the playoff run to Sixburgh Parker turned in a 146 yard 2 TD performance in a playoff game against San Diego. Parker led the Steelers in rushing in both recent Super Bowl victories.

Parker aged and slowed. Mendenhall got his big chance in 2011 during the run to Super Bowl XLV. After a horrible first half by QB Ben Roethlisberger dug a huge hole the Steelers began to climb out. Gaining momentum and driving for a go ahead score in the 3rd quarter Mendenhall fumbled the Steelers chances away and put them back into the hole from which there was no escape.

During the off season, the United States Special Forces found Osama Bin Laden and did what needed to be done. I think most Americans agree. Mendenhall's tweet seemed to put the onus on the WTC 9/11 disaster on the United States government and Mendenhall even alluded to the fact that President George W Bush may have murdered over 3000 of his countrymen.

A firestorm of criticism hit Mendenhall from all angles. He lost endorsements as corporations decided they did not want Mendenhall and his philosophy as their spokesman. Mendenhall is now suing Champion.His attorney says "It was a knee-jerk reaction to his thoughtful comments expressing his opinion that was shared by many Americans" Really? IMO Mendenhall has fumbled again. Article below. Thoughts?

 

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_747409.html

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Sad thing is...

…I would bet a large sum of money the reason he got canned by Champion had little to do with a disagreement with what Rashard had to say, but rather a worry about slowed sales because one of its endorsers shared an opinion the masses did not want to hear.

I realize it sounds very trite to say money is the bottom line, but money is the bottom line.

by Craig Sager's Wardrobe on Jul 20, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

When the objective of your job is to increase sales...

Anything you do that could decrease sales is cause for being fired. If sales even “just” stay the same you’re on the hotseat. That’s how it works.

It may not be about money for Rashard in regards to the suit (debatable at best), but it’s definitely about the money for Champion. It is a business after all.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 20, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

I just think people need to think about that before getting worked up into thinking Champion did some patriotic deed. Patriotism likely had very little, if anything, to do with it.

by Craig Sager's Wardrobe on Jul 20, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he has a chance in hell of winning the lawsuit.

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Jul 20, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me either

When it comes to sponsors this is how this thing works.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not cheering

for him to lose, I’m more indifferent. But I don’t think he’ll win.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 20, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Win or lose

These are just my opinions:

 I think it will likely be impossible for Mendy to get any decent new sponsors if he sues one for cancelling their contract after he has made a PR faux pas. How many firms want to deal with litigious business partners when they can get a very similar product at a similar price without the problem with lawsuits?

Regardless of his right to have and express his opinions, his sponsors have essentially paid him to use his public image to sell their product. When he profoundly changes his public image, he is offering a different product (new image) from what was in the contract (old image). Sometimes a firm may be comfortable with a players new product and will accept it in lieu of the old product but I don’t see that happening if the new product doesn’t meet the firm’s needs. A lot will depend on the wording of the contract and it’s provisions. but if the firm knew about his opinions prior to the signing of the contract and hadn’t built in provisions to discourage him from making these opinions public then the firm should be out of luck.

Mendy has the right to be wrong but that shouldn’t be what determines whether he wins this lawsuit.

"A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love in a canoe" Pierre Burton (historian)

"It is wonderful to feel the grandness of Canada in the raw, not because she is Canada but because she's something sublime that you were born into, some great rugged power that you are a part of." Emily Carr (artist)

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Point

about future sponsors.

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by 5020 on Jul 20, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

"A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love in a canoe" Pierre Burton (historian)

"It is wonderful to feel the grandness of Canada in the raw, not because she is Canada but because she's something sublime that you were born into, some great rugged power that you are a part of." Emily Carr (artist)

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 26, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not too bright

How could he possibly win? His statements have been inflammatory and bad for business, regardless of the wording of the contract, they should be able to drop him if they feel he may be detrimental to sales. The only thing he is really doing is damaging his image further and bringing things back to the surface that some folks had already forgotten. It is a REALLY idiotic and egotistical battle he has started from himself. The subject matter he spoke out about he cannot fail to realize was going to touch cords across the country – instead of letting a sleeping dog lie, he is suing? For the right to be controversial? I don’t get it.
I remember being pissed when he was drafted, but I slowly came around that even though we didn’t go after corners AGAIN, we did need a back and he was shaping up to be pretty good. In short he was growing on me (even though I wished he would stop spinning every down). Then comes the Superbowl fumble – ouch. Then come the dumb-ass comments (because he is a public figure – he has the right to his opinions). Now this? I officially do not like Mendenhall, and I want him gone. Start Redman and put Baron in the backfield – now we have space for Asomugha! Get Mendenhall out of here! Dumb-ass!

"I personally don't subscribe to that hocus-pocus. What happened in the other games will have no bearing on the outcome of this game. Each individual performance stands on its own. We're not buying into that."

Mike Tomlin - When asked about beating the Ravens three times in one season in 2008-2009 season.

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jul 20, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like he'll be cheaper on his second contract than he would have been.

Unless he quits this nonsense.

If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.

by SNW on Jul 20, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

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by 5020 on Jul 20, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know a ton of people who feel the same way Mendy does,

not everyone fits into the same box when it comes to serious events like 9/11. Its the same way with the death penalty, abortion, gun control, etc. It does not bother me that a professional athlete feels one way or another on anything.

 The one thing I am having a hard time with is what grounds he’s suing Champion on. They are a corporation who’s sole purpose is to make money, they felt that his comments would cost them business and promptly parted ways with him. I’m not seeing any legal wrongdoing on there behalf.

it never got weird enough for me

by JerseyFresh on Jul 20, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting

I know very few people that believe what Mendenhall does about 9/11. I would bet it’s 90/10 that most think 19 Saudi Religious Fanatics perpetrated the crime. Death penalty, abortion, gun control much closer to 50/50.

It does not bother me that a professional athlete feels one way or another about things. It bothers me that someone who was brought up in a free country and given a free education including college was then educated to think in a way that he feels his country would perpetrate such a heinous crime. What did he learn at Illinois? What is so evil about a system that would create an environment where Mendenhall is free to make millions playing a game and millions more in endorsements?

I agree with you 100 regarding the lawsuit. Business is business.

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by 5020 on Jul 20, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

"A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love in a canoe" Pierre Burton (historian)

"It is wonderful to feel the grandness of Canada in the raw, not because she is Canada but because she's something sublime that you were born into, some great rugged power that you are a part of." Emily Carr (artist)

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 21, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plenty evil about that system
What is so evil about a system that would create an environment where Mendenhall is free to make millions playing a game and millions more in endorsements?

It maybe hard for some of you to understand why this ‘system’ is evil. This is the same systems that gave members of its military syphilis and didn’t tell them so they could experiment on them. They ended up dying. Its hard for some of you to imagine this ‘system’ to attack its own people, but for others its not hard to imagine because it’s their reality.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

IMHO Evil People Do Not Make An Evil System

Where else in the world can you be born poor (and still have color HDTV, iphone and SUV) get a free education and rise above the situation you are born into to through hard work and effort? I’m living proof of the greatness of this country Tanno. So is President Obama. In most systems if you are poor you starve to death, In our system if you are poor you still have roof, car, cable and safety nets to help. Not quite Hitler’s Germany Tanno.

Also civilizations and people evolve. Hopefully for the better. We once were like the rest of the world holders of slaves. We once segregated. We have evolved. While the US military was up to questionable tactics in the 50s (over 60 years ago) they weren’t murdering civilians in cold blood i.e. 9/11. They were using military personnel albeit in a morally bankrupt way for study and future immunization. Don’t agree with it but it surely isn’t 9/11. And I hope we have evolved since 1950.

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by 5020 on Jul 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

it depends on your definition of evil. I don’t expect everyone to share my world view. But just because you have an opportunity to obtain material things in this system doesn’t make it good, maybe from a worldly perspective. People evolve and they just find a more sophisticated way of doing the same things they always did. Human nature is unchanging. Why do you think we have to be taught how to act right? We are by nature selfish and greedy. But this isn’t the place for this type of discussion if you want expound just hit me on my email on my profile. :)

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 21, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Points

And thank you (and everyone else) for your participation and opinion within the post. This has become quite an interesting thoughtful discussion featuring level headed thinking.

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by 5020 on Jul 21, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

whew!

It surprises me to hear that, ‘cause man, you’ve said a mouthful of – I can’t diplomatically and politely say it any other way – horseshit..

…if you are poor you still have roof, car, cable and safety nets to help. Not quite Hitler’s Germany Tanno.

Really?

by IronJake on Jul 24, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It Was A Level Headed Thoughtful Discussion...But then look Who Showed Up

As someone who grew up in a single parent family in Pittsburgh’s inner city I can honestly say I speak the truth of what I have seen and experienced. I was there once. Going to grade school in East Liberty. Working 3 jobs to help my mom pay my way through Pitt. Lived at home. Rode the bus. BTW, way to debate a topic using facts and hypothesis Ire instead of insults and insinuation.

Sorry about your disappointment in life and the United States system. Living in LA, I still see and help many poor people. Many are hard working looking for a break. Most do have a roof, a car and a TV. There are programs like Food Stamps, Welfare, Unemployment etc as safety nets. You can’t get rich off those programs but should you? Can you say this for the poor in any other country in the world?

I also volunteer and give to the LA Regional Food Bank. Many of LA’s homeless are there. I can honestly say that for a large percentage of those that use the LARFB being poor is the least of their problems. Usually it is drug addiction, psychosis or many kids & no daddy that drove them to 1734 E. 41st Street in Los Angeles.

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by 5020 on Jul 25, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, you brought it up.

If you mean level headed means one way conversation, then fine. I said what you said was horseshit, but left the insults out of it.

I don’t know what country you live in, but all those that you use as examples of “comfortable poor”(??) are working their asses off to just stay alive. If you think this country has a level playing field in regard to economics and the “american dream” you’re in fairy land. Those safety nets you are so keen on are systematically being dismantled because they are “socialist”, and corporatism is running rampant, making the rich even richer, even after the economic meltdown. But hey, we still have our iphones and blockbuster movies, right? Go tell that to those that are living paycheck to paycheck, owing money to banks with loansharking interest rates. There are people who eat mcdonalds and burger king because that’s all they can afford, and get obese because of all the sugars fed to them, causing diabetes; shortened life spans as a result of heard disease. Ask yourself this : Why are all those that you see have drug addiction problems?

If you have hdtv and a car, then you aren’t “poor.” The poverty threshold in this country is making less than $11K a year for one person. You can’t possibly own and operate a vehicle and have health insurance, pay rent, feed yourself, and still get cable on HDTV – even with unemployment insurance.

Poverty threshold :
Persons in Family, in the 48 Contiguous States and D.C
1 $10,890
2 $14,710
3 $18,530
4 $22,350
5 $26,170
6 $29,990
7 $33,810
8 $37,630
For each additional
person, add $3,820

*SOURCE: Federal Register, Vol. 76, No. 13, January 20, 2011, pp. 3637-3638

Census Bureau information here.

What does this have to do with Hitler’s Germany?

Further.

While the US military was up to questionable tactics in the 50s (over 60 years ago) they weren’t murdering civilians in cold blood i.e. 9/11.

Was that like a shot at, say Muslims? Or maybe Islamic countries? Do you read the news? The United States has killed thousands in cold blood, and has committed human rights violations as well as atrocities against, yes, civilians. Go ask the population of Iraq. Go ask India about Union Carbide. Go ask the Vietnamese. Go ask the Iraqi’s of the’ Highway of Death.’ Go ask the Japanese about hiroshima and nagasaki. What about the wholesale destruction of Dresden? The war was all but over. You make it seem like the U.S. has progressed and is now that shiny beacon on the hill, innocent of all sins against humanity. It continues, and will continue because as George H Bush said : The “American way of life will not be negotiated.” In other words, we will continue imperialism and abuse so the rich can make more money and distract us with the failure of “trickle down” economics and continue to step on the backs of non g8 countries.

This is the America we live in :

But I commend you for your work ethic, and helping those in need. I just take offense at painting a rosy picture when we are far from solving societal problems and improving the human condition. We like to think we are above it all, it’s just masqueraded by what we call freedom and capitalism. If you want to compare the US to a third world country, then it’s not worth the comparison. Other countries have universal healthcare, and aren’t eating crap because capitalism creates price points for human sustenance. Oh yeah, I guess I have to say at this point “I love this country, it’s the best in the world” so as to pacify those that call me anti- American. I should be able criticize and still be patriotic.

Maybe all I have a problem with is your definition of poverty ….

End of rant.

GO STEELERS!

by IronJake on Jul 25, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are the one on the attack Ire. I don’t know where I’ve done anything to inhibit anyone’s free speech? I’ve been respectful to everyone until you disrespected me and offered nothing but obscenity.

1) You came to a conversation between Tanno & I with a snarky comment and an insult. Basically I am full of sh*t because I have a different opinion than you. Notice the comment you blew your horse bleep all over. It is respect for a divergent opinion.

2) The world I live in? Dude… I live in the USA and have at times been part of the working poor. I’m not saying it is fun dude. I’m just saying there are safety nets & programs instead of the poor in Vietnam, China or Cuba. If you had to be at the bottom trying to climb your way out, where would you rather be?

3) If you are like most working class Americans (like me) you have a 401K (currently a 201K) tied to these evil corporations.
I am all for closing corporate loopholes. I was not for globalization. I liked it when the USA was more self sufficient. Clinton & the Bushes gave it away.

4) I guess you compare Union Carbide or BP with the terrorists on 9/11? OK. You’re entitled. Were their actions real bad…Yes. Were they criminal? Yes. Were they 9/11? IMHO…No. I’m all for closing corporate loopholes. In the end the middle class tax payer pays. That’s me. I paid a ton of taxes in the last decade and I am entitled to have an opinion on where money goes even if you don’t happen to agree.

5) I hear you on all those numbers. If politicians quit giving themselves and their special interest…if we stopped funding some of the stupid sh*t we do it would be great. If there was more money for these programs that would be great. There isn’t. We are in serious debt from spending on free stuff for everybody. Everyone needs something. You see how much we aren’t spending on these programs. I see how much we are currently spending. Difference of opinion. No reason for insults.

6) So what you are saying is everyone below the poverty rate is homeless? No one who reports their income this low has a TV? No one operates a car without insurance? While not the best health care the Emergency room turns no one away. Again, I hurt for poor hungry children and people that need a hand up. I actually help and don’t just rant. Do you or are these empty words?

7) Nazi Germany not a slap at any one. People are intrinsically bad. Maybe going to the extreme using Germany but I state for the record; “For all it’s blemishes and injustices the system in place in the USA gives the best chance for someone born into poverty to rise up and reach their potential. Once at your potential this system does the best job of getting out of the way through freedom (dwindling) to allow unbridled achievement. More so than China, USSR, EU, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Norway, Russia, Iceland, Canada etc.” I would rather live here than anywhere else.

8) God Bless America & The Pittsburgh Steelers

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by 5020 on Jul 25, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're an American Homer

Don’t have time, and wonder if it’s even worth it to respond, but I see you can’t tell the difference between “what you said was stupid,” and “you are stupid.”

You miss so many facts and ignore context and cultural difference that I can’t with good conscience argue/debate/engage with you.

By the way, Cuba has a better healthcare system than the United States – world renowned. Norway? WTF are you talking about? I also see you know nothing of the European Union…whatever.

Have a nice day, and GO STEELERS !!!

by IronJake on Jul 25, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

American Homer Through & Through

And proud of it buddy! Also proud of my little American homer buddies protecting our freedoms in Afghanistan, Iraq and based in Japan & the EU.

I understand you can’t debate one who believes different than you because “what I said was stupid.” And what a great debater you are with logic like “WTF are you talking about?”

Again, I respect your opinion to feel the way you do…even if you don’t give me the same respect fellow patriot. And also, it is interesting to me that I came through the education system in the 70s and 80s from a working class poor neighborhood and feel the way I do about this country and you (probably) came through the education system after me (with Doctor Mendenhall) and feel the way you do. Different parents, teachers and different times.

While the USA may have blemishes and in your opinion may not be at the top in “health care” or “economy” or “education” when you look at every category I will take the USA. I will also take my doctor in West Hills CA over your & Hugo’s doctor in Cuba. Just my opinion.

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by 5020 on Jul 26, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m older than you btw. With respect to mr bean, I will refrain from continuing this discussion, but suffice it to say the more you speak the more you appear like the arrogant ugly american.

by IronJake on Jul 26, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank You

for respecting me and my opinion. You are a true gentleman. I am sorry my opinion is so ugly to you.

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by 5020 on Jul 26, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I respect you

Maybe not your opinion. If you re-read my post I said I admire your work ethic and the fact that you are helping people in need. I also said I was feeling snarky, and that should be factored in. You miss that? You however, continue with the passive aggressive jabs.

by IronJake on Jul 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank You

For being such a courteous individual respecting others opinions, even those of ugly Americans like me. Don’t know what I said that was so ugly but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sorry you are so disappointed with the American way of life and I wish you good luck and good health along with a Lombardi trophy.

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by 5020 on Jul 26, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just have one question

Why did you have to add “american” in this → “arrogant ugly american”?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 26, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That still didn't answer my question

One can consider that a slur. Just by pointing out that someone made a wiki page doesn’t explain why you used it.

I’m just trying to figure out what’s behind using those words.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 26, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what you are getting at. I can’t make it more clear than the Wiki entry. Did you read it?

by IronJake on Jul 26, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes of course I read it.

Rhetorical question.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 26, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought that was funny

i can’t stand that type of american- the “screw all the wussies” type that can’t relate to anyone else other than their own imagined misery and anguish.

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by SteelersVT on Jul 26, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Intertesting

There are people that aren’t Americans that act that way.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 26, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

What he is probably getting at is

Some american go over seas and act like every country is the US. They think that there laws are wrong and they can be rude and arrogant. I have seen this a lot being in the military based overseas. "arrogant ugly american" With this, One guy may make many look bad. So if one guy is the ugly american his buddies who are doing the right thing get associated with him. My only opinion of this is we do act like our shit doesn’t stink but in 20 years when the horrible people we voted in to all the office (Dem and Rep) we will slowly become a second rate nation. We will then bow down to China who doesn’t stick there noses into other people shit. Sorry it was a rant. Lockout is over: Go Steelers

by lshaffer_69 on Jul 26, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's my point
My only opinion of this is we do act like our shit doesn’t stink

speak for yourself

That’s my point. I don’t like the generalization of that anymore than I like generalization of black people.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 26, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pix, it was an epithet

It is not a generalization, but a descriptor.

1. An adjective or descriptive phrase expressing a quality characteristic of the person or thing mentioned.

‘The Ugly American’ is a descriptor of a person that displays characteristics or attributes that are defined in the link I supplied.

This is NOT a generalization – look up the word “epithet.” When it is accompanied by a racial slur or similar, then it is considered an insult, or abuse. If I called everybody an ugly American, or all Americans as the ugly American, them it would be an insult, and a generalization. I called 5020 one because of his misinformed and narrow minded “America Rules!” attitude.

Not you, nor any other American.

by IronJake on Jul 26, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can give you a few racial/sexist/ethnic descriptors

That many would hate. That doesn’t excuse it’s use.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 27, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

meaning

because the descriptor feel it fits it doesn’t mean I should use it.

Shall I give some examples of those descriptors?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 27, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry about the horrible grammar

lol

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 27, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Summary

If I respectfully defend my country (USA) while in my country (CA) from a tweet that infers we murder our own people (Mendenhall) and I state that for all it’s imperfections I think the USA is a pretty special place and I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else, that makes me an “ugly American”. Oh…And I should take that as a respectful comment…OK.

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by 5020 on Jul 26, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 27, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait- you have to also drink only bud...

ask your woman where your damn sandwich is, and curse liberals and watch faux news religiously. then you’d be getting close. :) i think I just described like 9 men in my family…

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by SteelersVT on Jul 27, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, and every country has its homers, and I just wish I knew what they called them.

Then we could convene and figure out a word that describes all of those people accurately, and then use that. You are right in that its not limited to us. However, an unreasonable amount of U.S. guys do fit that description, I grew up in the thick of them, and work with them everyday, and see them when I drive across the country. Hell, the last president was one. It is what it is. :)

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by SteelersVT on Jul 27, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

you ever hear the story about the guy

that was sleeping and his children put Limberger cheese on his moustache? Long story short… He woke up and said everything stinks, but in fact……

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 27, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

..but in fact...what?

What is your point? So far you’ve not made a point other than don’t dis america.

Yes, give me descriptors of racism, sexism, and xenophobia. Now, make sure you know the difference between a slur or insult (based on a generalization or inaccurate stereotype), and an attribute, and it’s usage. If I stereotyped him based on words he did not use, then that is a slur. If swept him into a category (ugly american), and labeled him with those attributes which he did not display simply because he is american, then it is inappropriate. He did in fact display those attributes.

You understand?

It sounds a lot like you defending america, not really caring what this thread is really about.

by IronJake on Jul 27, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 28, 2011 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

Jake, you silly American!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 28, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alright everyone. We are done here. It is fricking Free Agency and you all are talking about things completely unrelated to football on a football website. What’s wrong with you all? Hop over to the front page and talk about some of the big moves the Steelers are making.

I don’t want to have to lock this thread.

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Jul 28, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

the entertainment value in the exchange has dissipated. I tend to do these things when I’m bored. People make it so easy!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 28, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

trolls?

Don’t be so hard on yourself. :)

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by PixburghArn on Jul 28, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice

I was talking about you. But you knew that.

Wait, sorry, you need to have the last word.

I’m taking Stephens advice and to to the main page, so help yourself….

by IronJake on Jul 28, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed

I looked at your profile and saw that you drew the longest warning from a mod. Johnny was pretty thorough in it about telling you to stop the political rambling. He out did my warning to a troll back in Decmber. Congrats.

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by PixburghArn on Jul 28, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

You want to talk about hypocrisy?

I wasn’t the one that brought up politics, so reserve your double standard for someone else.

by IronJake on Jul 28, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

hilarious

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by PixburghArn on Jul 29, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok daddy

This thread was over anyway.

by IronJake on Jul 28, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's not make this a politics thread again

But please, when you quote something, name the source! I’d like to see who sees the US as giving the poor a better chance than EU countries (which ought not to be lumped into one in the first place) and Norway. In fact, the gap between the rich and poor is far larger in the US than it is in countries such as Japan, The Netherlands, etc. See this table. Not to mention the health care system, in which the US lags behind almost every developed nation. Yes, there are worse countries to live in if you are poor, but that doesn’t make the United States the non plus ultra of countries desirable to the poor.

by Simonsen on Jul 25, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Say

I’m not quoting anyone Simon. I’m just saying I think the capitalist system in place in the USA gives a poor kid from the inner city a better chance for economic achievement than anywhere else. I don’t know this from books just from my own life experience of where I started, what I had and where I ended up….In America.

I was poor. I didn’t read about it at University. I worked my butt off for an education…and trust me it was a fight every day to get to school without being mugged on the way for my bus pass (had to hitch in months when it was stolen and I couldn’t afford another) and lunch money.

In what country do the best doctors make the most $$$? What about entertainers and sportsmen? What about artists and professors? What country allows a worker to keep more of his money instead of transferring wealth to corrupt government? How much wealth in the EU is first generation money like Mendenhall’s millions or Mark Cuban’s billions? I don’t know the answer to these questions but I’ll bet the US ranks top or near the top in all these categories.

At the end of the day, what life’s lessons taught me….having money ends poverty.

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by 5020 on Jul 26, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey, you are entitled to your opinion

and I don’t mean to devalue your life story whatsoever.

I am just saying, as somebody who has grown up in more than just one country, the US is a good place to live and grow up – but I wouldn’t go so far as to list it above everything else. Your success story is awesome, but I can tell you that the same kinds of stories exist in European countries as well. First-generation wealth? Absolutely.

In my opinion, the ‘American Dream’ is a myth at this point, because it should be called the ‘western myth’ instead. Now, did the US help achieve the fact that other countries give their poor just as good if not better chances than in the United States? Absolutely, but that doesn’t mean that the US is an ideal, utopian society in where stories like yours are absolutely commonplace. Too many other countries have surpassed it in terms of health care, aid for the poor, divide between rich and poor, etc.

But let’s stop this discussion here. I realize that I won’t change your point of view, as you won’t be able to change mine. You obviously love your country, and there is nothing wrong with that. But as a German native, let me tell you that there is nothing wrong with loving your country even while accepting its blemishes – it can actually be quite the katharsis, as I found out after the 2006 world cup. But that’s a story for a different day. I’ll let you have the last word :)

by Simonsen on Jul 26, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank You

Simon. I enjoy the exchange of idea’s and appreciate your respect and courtesy. I agree that the USA is no utopia and everyone doesn’t win, just some lucky hard working people. I just don’t think we are an evil corrupt system that would murder it’s own as Mendenhall seems to allude to in his tweets.

And I understand that other countries are also great and have merits. Agree to disagree.

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by 5020 on Jul 26, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's Funny

That’s funny.

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by 5020 on Jul 20, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good ole South Technical Florida U

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by John Stephens on Jul 20, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

nice job with that

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by tannofsteel84 on Jul 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

yawn....

All he was saying is how does a 47 story bld (bld 7) collapse at freefall speed into its own footprint without ever being hit by a plane. Ive often wondered the same. its kinda strange more people dont. 2 planes 3 buildings.
anyway- he can say whatever he wants. hope he wins and rushes for 1800 yards this year.

by Steelchamps !! on Jul 20, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

and another thing....

Anyone who actually googled “bld 7” watches it fall with there own 2 eyes ( corporate media seldom shows it and 9 elev comish report just sorta left that out?? ppfft.) and says they hate Mendy for questioning what should at least be questioned ( i have no idea what really happened but the official fairy tale is a joke to me)…
…. Whap up your 34 Jerzey and send it to me, preferably a alternate home XL or double X but ill take both traditionals and Il put it on and send a pic of me wearing it to BTSC. Ill pay postage and shipping : )

by Steelchamps !! on Jul 20, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

There have been scientific studies done on the other building.

I don’t recall who did the study, but the findings came back legit. I guess it’s okay to wonder, but I’ve never heard a qualified voice seriously question building 7s demise. Only guys like Charlie Sheen seem to question it.

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by idiscgolftexas on Jul 20, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

1000 archetichs and engineers came out to say it is absolutely impossible...

… for that bld to collapse like it did. Popular mechanic ( hey we can trust rupert murdoch rite) ran a garbage piece. When I see it collapse I simply say no f"n way. Im not trying to convince anyone in any way, but its not like Mendy said the earth was flat or something. have you ever watched a youtube clip for yourself? just curious. sorry my spelling blows

by Steelchamps !! on Jul 20, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you have a source for these 1000 architects and engineers? Or are we supposed to just take you at your word?

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by John Stephens on Jul 20, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither of your links work

And I was under the impression that the examiner was one of those garbage news magazines that makes stories up.

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by John Stephens on Jul 21, 2011 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats fine.

Im not here to convince anyone to my view.
Im not going to link up websites and footage to the very strange things that happened that day. Im not that guy.
I will tell you this though, a simple half hr or so of simple investigation in your own time may be more interesting than you may think. Im not talking about the onion. Ive spend some time thoughout the YEARS cuz I find it extremely fascinating. Ive come up with a conclusion that I feel comfortable with, That is that I dont know. but I DO know the official story is a fairy tale for the masses. I will always voice my opinion and people will always choose what they think and speak it and I respect that.

by Steelchamps !! on Jul 22, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fine. Everyone should form their own opinion. I just figured since you seem to know so much about it and you were citing these thousands of engineers that you’d be able to provide me a source to one.

I’ve already done a considerable amount of research on the matter and I have an opinion that I am comfortable with.

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by John Stephens on Jul 23, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

all you have to do is search a little in the google

iim not tyring to sway anyone to how I see things. its unfortunate and im ostrigized (lol wutever) when it comes to this.Im sure someone will soon give me the you can find anything on the internet blah speil and thats cool. all I know it when Bld 7 collapses I call bullshit. every single ounce of my being cries it. I dont have the answers but I personaly dont believe exactly what ive been told is all.I cant.

by Steelchamps !! on Jul 21, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not trying to ostracize you, but I think if you make a claim that is against the majority you should have some sort of evidence to back it up. So far, all I have seen is people say “George Bush organized 9/11 and there is no way those buildings could have fell that way without a planned explosion. Thousands of engineers agree with me.” Then I ask, “Can I see some proof of these thousands?” And the response is usually nonexistent.

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by John Stephens on Jul 21, 2011 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

A fool is in the eye of the beholder

Fact: US funded Bin Laden and Al Queda in the 1980s under ronald reagan.
The situation is deeper than people are willing to admit, is he a good guy? By no means.

Fact: The NFL is illegal setup as a monopoly that is allowed to exist, free agency restrictions, the draft, and trades are all concepts that derive from slavery. Whether we like to admit it or not doesn’t make it not true.

Fact: Slavery can have various definitions that involve being indebted to, or restricting one’s will.

A player can always choose not to play football of course, that is a contrast, we love to look at the differences but lets look at a similarity.

 Franchise Tagging for instance is a form of restricting one’s will of where they want to work. In this system the player do get the bonus of making the average of the top 5 salary at his position. But what if another team wants to make him the highest paid at his position? What if the player just wants to play for a title contender? What if the player just wants to play in his home town? In any other job (non-sports) you can simply pack your bags and tell your boss, I quit, and move. But in sports a player is considered a ‘commodity’ like slaves were. So they restrict what they can do. In slavery, the owner, decided where you would work, can you see how at least the concept is similar? The distance is, of course, that you get paid nothing.

That is just one example.

If people will open up their minds and stop getting so offended about slavery we can have a grown up conversation about this.

It is never foolish to speak up for what you believe. If it cost you some money or how people look at you then so be it, stay true to yourself. The problem I have with our system is that we place money and fame over everything. There is more to life than money and people giving you their affection.

I’m not saying I agree with Mendy’s comments. Just saying that people call him stupid when actually he isn’t. He just has a different opinion, one that many people are willing to commit themselves to thinking about and trying to understand.

I don’t think he has a shot to win this cause but it is his right to sue.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 21, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

A player can always choose not to play football of course, that is a contrast, we love to look at the differences but lets look at a similarity.

That’s kind of the most important comparison. That, and you make thousands to millions of dollars.

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by John Stephens on Jul 21, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

but it doesn’t make the other comparisons disappear.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jul 21, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The slavery comments ...

are ridiculous. It doesn’t compare, that is the issue. He says that to be controversial, and while some look for the merit in it because they want to, I would wonder how anyone past or present who has had to live under the horrors of real slavery would feel about Mendenhall’s comparison. Do you think they would find legitimacy in his claims? I’m guessing not

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by idiscgolftexas on Jul 22, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh yea

Perception is key, but I believe, or at least used to believe, that if you had the facts then your perception would change. It just seems that no matter what the facts are people believe what they want to believe based on their feelings. Slavery elicits such a emotional response that people get wrapped up in. Are they slaves. No. Not even close. Does it look bad to compare their situation to slavery, yes but there really isn’t anything else to compare it to. Also I never said I didn’t like the franchise tag. I see its usefulness, just using it as an example.

People get outraged so easy in this country. We play right into the media’s hand. We turn into big kids every time someone says something we don’t like. Just because I don’t agree with what you say doesn’t make it a big deal. A players comments should not get people so riled up emotionally. Its just someone talking. Seriously, people say more controversial stuff around their friends. But if its a athlete that even hints at something controversial, its time to light the pitchforks. That’s more of my issue, people’s responses moreso than the players comments. But what can you do? I just give my opinion and try to remind people in the grand scheme of life- a players opinion isn’t really that important, even less important than the sport that they play.

As for the Mendy part, I agree, companies hire you for your public image, you ruin that then they have no reason to keep employing you. Just like if he bust his knee and can’t run the Steelers have no reason to keep paying him.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Jul 21, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

he also tweeted

that if women don’t give oral sex other women will (this tweet was in between the slave and 9/11 comments). if it was just the 9/11 comment he would have a much better case although he would still lose.

his contention is that champion didn’t warn him after the slave and bj comments so the punsihment is coming out of left field for the 9/11 comment.

that argument is so weak, a sponsor doesn’t have to warn you that you are going too far (their line may move at anytime). his attorney or agent should have warned him on the slave and bj comments that champion can drop you over this kinda crap. and they probably did warn him but he just kept on tweeting.

he has zero, zero chance of winning unless champion settles with him to avoid legal fees.

by kk99 on Jul 20, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Just curious

Are you a lawyer? You seem to know a lot about that stuff

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by John Stephens on Jul 20, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you serious?

Or is that sarcasm, ‘cause kk99 hasn’t said anything that makes him a lawyer….

by IronJake on Jul 24, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didnt hear about the oral sex comment

In his next contract we should give him an extra bonus if he gets rid of his twitter.

by steelerintexas on Jul 20, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is amazing

the oral sex comment never got noticed, i guess he says so many things people just ignore it unless it is exceptionally controversial. i think he was trying to copy katt williams and be funny. mendenhall is a one-of-a-kind person who just likes to be controversial. it’s like he wants to be howard stern but he comes of like andrew dice clay.

by kk99 on Jul 21, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he wants to say stuff like this to be controversial he needs to not do it on twitter. You cant make a good argument on twitter. If you wanna do something like compare the NFL to slavery, or talk about 9/11 your gonna need a lot more space to discuss. For example if he got on here at BTSC he could have posted his slavery thoughts and he could have a well thought out discussion about the subject and a good discussion might end up not pissing people off as much.

by steelerintexas on Jul 22, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

what possible good can come from mendy talking about bjs?

is he a sex therapist or comic? it is funny that he thought that was ok to do in the first place and then sue your endorser when they disagreed. maybe we can have serena williams come out and talk about the need for men to do it too.

if you don’t have any sponsors and you don’t want any then i guess you can get into all kinds of discussions on how NFL owners are like slavemasters, why women need to perform orally and your opinions on the civil engineering of the world trade towers.

but you can’t have it both ways and you are right if you want to write an editorial piece at least have someone look at it b/c you might not be the best judge of appropriateness.

by kk99 on Jul 22, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not saying that its ok

I was referring more to the slavery comments and the 9/11 comments. The bj comment was pure stupidity.

Some of his comments would have came off a lot better had he done it through outlets much better than twitter. Example if he would have came out and said he agreed with Adrian Peterson with the slavery quote he could have done it in ways other than twitter which would allow a much more thought out and well done argument.

If Baron Batch had said some of the things Mendy has said im sure it would have came across much better because Batch would have put it out on the internet in a much better manner. Maybe if Mendy had his own blog or something that doesnt have a 140 character limit he could do a much better job not gathering such negative attention.

by steelerintexas on Jul 23, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, but i think he liked the controversy

until he lost his only sponsor and $1mm, now he doesn’t tweet too much or has been getting it filtered.

by kk99 on Jul 23, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was probably

drunk or something. He seems like a well spoken individual, but these comments sound like somebody that never heard “don’t drink and tweet.”

by IronJake on Jul 24, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

God point

maybe he can do some beer or liquor commercials. He would be a great poster child for alcoholic beverages.

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by PixburghArn on Jul 25, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

*good point

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jul 25, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

and i think champion

will just bring up the oral sex comment and on that basis alone mendy is just too unpredictable to rep their brand.

his lawyer must be an ambulance chaser because i doubt a prominent lawyer would even take on a case like this. a sponsor doesn’t have to ‘warn" you that you are getting close to the line, that’s what the damn contract is for.

it just doesn’t make any sense at all to me but then again i thought his comments were not tactical, they were more like a guy who just wanted to bring attention and get more tweeter followers.

by kk99 on Jul 20, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

This is exactly the reason

why I can’t wait for football to start again. Not even because it gets these guys to get their mind straight, but because I am finally reminded of why I root for them. Not because of what they say, but because of what they do on the football field. As soon as I see 34 out there behind Ben, I will root for him the same as I ever did.

That said, this lawsuit is plain stupid… How does he ever think he will win?

by Simonsen on Jul 20, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Long time no see Simon

Did you get hitched yet?

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by John Stephens on Jul 20, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets try that again

Dann mobile commenting… It’s been too long, but during the lockout I was busy following my mavs and dirk. I’m back in time for football! Maybe not commenting as much, but definitely reading. good to be home! Oh and not getting married until next year ;-)

by Simonsen on Jul 21, 2011 5:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hey bro!

What’s a happenin’?

Married next year, eh? Me too! About when do you think it’ll happen?

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by Steel Spike on Jul 22, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thank you for your Mavs taking down the Heat

I was rooting for them. Good luck on the marriage. I actually just bought an engagement ring and I am headed in that direction.

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by John Stephens on Jul 22, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Congratz John!

That championship was the most deserving ever (outside our steelers of course), I consider Dirk the polamalu of basketball :) then of course, I’m biased both ways. Thanks guys on the marriage, Spike, next July will be my time! How about you?

by Simonsen on Jul 22, 2011 5:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think mine's in July as well

Not sure though…I should probably ask her, huh? LOL!

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by Steel Spike on Jul 24, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

get a date you can easily remember

for example, i was born on the 10th, my wife was born on the 10th, so naturally, we picked a date on a saturday that fell on the 10th. there’s no way I would remember otherwise.

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by SteelersVT on Jul 25, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, she wants to have it on June 8th now...

Don’t know how we came up with that date….

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by Steel Spike on Jul 25, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats not too bad, 6-8-12?

if u change it to 06-08-12, almost sounds like van halens’ ou812, maybe that will help ya. cuz if you forget, they NEVER forget that you forgot!

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by SteelersVT on Jul 26, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

OU812

That’s our softball team in the 818!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fscuT9nWjhk&feature=fvst

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by 5020 on Jul 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Contract law

Mendenhall and Champion had a contract that Mendenhall advertises their goods. They can’t arbitrarily breach that contract (by dumping him and refusing to pay him the money they contracted to). There is one of two ways that they are not liable. Either there is wording in the contract that actions such as those he has committed is grounds for termination, or the action is so heinous that the contract can be considered terminated by Mendenhall. I think Champion will struggle to prove the second one. I can’t say that I’ve read the contract so who knows what terms that are in it to cover their arses. The basic point is, just because they disagree with what he said, does not mean this is an open and shut case.
Secondly, there is grounds to say that Champion keeping him on after his other controversial tweets gives him a ground to sue here. It’s known as estoppel. Basically says that if party A gives party B reason to believe that an act is okay, they can’t later come back and use that as a ground to terminate when it suits them. Doesn’t quite fit these facts, but all it takes is a creative lawyer to spin the facts the right way.

by mojo88 on Jul 20, 2011 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

this is apparently the contract language champion stated in the termination letter

Mendenhall’s contract states that he cannot act or say things that put him

"into public disrepute, contempt, scandal or ridicule, or tending to shock, insult, or offend the majority of the consuming public"

i hear you that he is saying champion was giving him implicit approval by not warning him on the first two tweets. but i seriously doubt that even protects you from the third which caused a stir and is definitely covered by some part of the above language.

by kk99 on Jul 20, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know if these guys are credible attorneys but this is what they are saying

Mendy is contending that “Hanesbrands at no time prior to May 2011 suggested that it disagreed with Mr. Mendenhall’s comments or that his tweets were in any way inconsistent with the values of the Champion brand,” the lawsuit says.

That might not matter, according to Michael McCann, director of the Sports Law Institute at the Vermont Law School. “The company’s concern, I would imagine, is not really the content of what he’s saying, but the public reaction to what he’s saying,” McCann said.

“An athlete contracts away his free speech rights in signing his endorsement deal,” said Jeffrey Standen, a sports law professor and associate dean at Willamette University College of Law in Salem, Ore. “What the sponsor is buying is the athlete’s name and image, and their name and image are related to public behavior and opinions.”

by kk99 on Jul 20, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Being a sponsor is by definition being a bit of a fraud.

I mean seriously, did ANYONE actually believe that Tiger Woods would rather drive a Buick?

Mendy expressed his opinion which is his right, but being a sponsor is all about giving the public perception of what the business wants you to be. They are giving you a boat load of cash to give the public a perception of who they think you should be. It’s not like there is anything else he is doing for the company to earn that money.

Mendy will lose, and I fully expect the case to be thrown out. There is no way that a corporation the size of Champion didn’t have some bullet proof clauses in the contract for this sort of thing.

by lkwdsteel on Jul 21, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

i think this sums up the whole situation

rashard $612.50k in 2011, ouch! no wonder he is suing champion, he was making more off them than the steelers:)

It’s always about the dollars, constituitional rights my ass!

by kk99 on Aug 1, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  


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