Steelers UDFA Thread
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 25, 2011 9:29 PM EDT
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PrintPlease note that the following transactions should not be considered official until announced officially by the Steelers organization. Just like during the lead up to the end of the lockout, you can expect the fast-paced nature of the news and information cycle to lead to some misreports or last-minute changes to what might have been considered all but a done deal. Thanks. - Michael B. -
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The league has informed clubs that they may come to an agreement to sign (but not, you know, actually sign until the end of the week) undrafted free agents as of Monday night. While I will try and keep up with the various signings please feel free to put anyone I missed below and I'll add them to the official list. Otherwise, discuss my friends - actual football is here!
UPDATE (2:45 PM ET):
OFFICIAL LIST OF STEELERS UDFA SIGNINGS (via Steelers.com):
1) Vaughn Charlton, TE/HB (Temple)
2) John Clay, HB (Wisconsin)
3) Terrence McCrae, WR (Ohio)
4) Armand Robinson, WR (Miami University)
5) Adam Mims, WR (Furman)
6) Weslye Saunders, TE (South Carolina)
7) Colin Miller, C (Central Michigan)
8) Trevis Turner, OT (Abilene Christian)
9) Brent Greenwood, S (Iowa)
10) Niles Brinkley, CB (Wisconsin)
11) Eric Clanton, OLB (Citadel)
12) Mario Harvey, MLB (Marshall)
13) Miguel Chavis, DE (Clemson)
14) Anthony Gray, DT (Southern Miss)
15) Eric Greenwood, WR (Idaho)
ADDITIONS TUESDAY AFTERNOON:
16) Ty Boyle, DE (North Dakota)
17) Joshua Harrison, T (South Carolina State)
18) Derek Chard, LS (Connecticut)
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Also, keep in mind that these agreements are non-binding. Any of these kids may take their talents to…well, south beach or anywhere else for that matter. Or, alternately, the Steelers could choose not to sign a player they have an agreement with if a better option presents itself.
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 25, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
Im happy
To hear we agreed to pickup Gray. That guy could be a steal for an undrafted FA.
He’s a fireplug all right. Depending on the status of Hoke and McClendon, Gray has an outside shot of making the practice squad.
Saunders has the talent to be a #2 or #3 TE for the Steelers if can work out some of his character issues. He could actually make the 53 if he takes coaching well…for once.
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 25, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you are right
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Gray
I suggested yesterday that we sign him. We had him in for a look see before the draft. He is about the same size as Casey, but is more solidly built and stronger. I think he will be one of our better signings and a real sleeper. Read up on him.
Bandwagon
I see other Steeler fans have also did their homework on him. I was hoping that we would have drafted him in the regular draft. Now we can get a tremendous talent at A bargain basement price. We have a VERY good front office who knows how to evaluate talent. Hope he can be a similar find like James Harrison.
by Allen F on Jul 26, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Saunders
here was my pre-draft analysis on him:
Weslye Saunders South Carolina 6-5 273lb Has elite physical tools to block and catch. Disciplined for missing meetings then kicked off team. Seems like a born Bengal. Was thought of as a 3rd rounder at one point
Hope he’s ready for redemption
by Steely McSmash on Jul 25, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
He is a bengal
I can’t think of another way to describe him. Think about it, Stephen Garcia has been suspended about 6 times from South Carolina but this guy gets kicked off the team. It was for more than meetings, he was caught up in the NCAA investigation for taking illegal benefits also. He is from the Raleigh area and his dad writes in the local paper. The kid just never seem like he gave people respect from what I gather. I don’t think he’ll last long as a Steeler but who knows. I was against the Adams signing too.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Dunno about that...
He lied to the NCAA, which doesn’t bother me in the least, and he said he was trying to cover up for his friends, who were with North Carolina and that whole fiasco.
Not saying he’s a choir boy, but that, combined with a foot injury, is what led to him not being drafted. Otherwise, he’s a great talent. I think they may have gotten a steal.
by Neal Coolong on Jul 26, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Ravens signed Herzlich
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
he tweeted this recently
“For everyone I have not signed with anyone yet and am still making my decision. Thank you for support and I will give official word tomorrow”
by Steely McSmash on Jul 25, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
womp womp
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
whats his twitter BTW
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a smoke screen
His agent probably told him to keep his mouth shut until the deal is done. Who knows, we’ll see….
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by StuckInUtah on Jul 25, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Or
Just a false report
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a possibility as well.
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by StuckInUtah on Jul 25, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
His twitter account: http://twitter.com/#!/MarkHerzlich
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by StuckInUtah on Jul 25, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm tweeting anti-Ravens
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
There is a report that the Ravens signed Jerry Rice
Is that also true?
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 25, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Laugh it up smartass
Or you could click on the link above and see why he believe he’ll be signing with Baltimore.
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by StuckInUtah on Jul 25, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay...I clicked it
For everyone I have not signed with anyone yet and am still making my decision. Thank you for support and I will give official
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry
Per Peter Prisco of CBS:
I love the Ravens signing of Herzlich. If he’s healthy — and we pray he is — it’s a great signing.
I’m not saying that it’s set it stone, but there is a reason we believe he’ll be a Raven.
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by StuckInUtah on Jul 25, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
So you trust a source
Over Herzlich himself…what?
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Just telling you why I thought that in the first place. BW over on the Beatdown was saying that he had something completely different on his Twitter regarding coming to Baltimore’s training camp, but he ended up deleting it and tweeting what you’ve read. Thus leading me to believe (hope) that his agent just told him to keep things on the hush for now.
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by StuckInUtah on Jul 25, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts are
He might have gotten overly excited by the first offer and jumped on it. Then his agent goes, whoa whoa whoa. You’ve got a lot of offers coming in. Lets think this out.
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
You better hope that Asomugha really signs with you guys
Or you and Malor will NEVER hear the end of it.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 25, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Trust me, I do hope that he's headed to Baltimore
I can’t really figure out why else Ozzie would cut so many guys to make the cap room. We’re now sitting with 18.5 million to spend, with another potential 5-6 after we sign Ngata to a long term deal. Granted we have to resign Yanda, but he’s hardly going to put a dent in that kind of money.
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by StuckInUtah on Jul 25, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
don't forget to add the $6.5mm in 2011 transition dollars
that should put you at ~$24-25mm cap space plus the $6.5mm, now you are near $32mm.
Why did clayton
say on mike and mike that ya’ll was 8 million over the cap and that playe d a reason into you cutting them
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
That clayton, maybe he just mispoke, I do find it interesting that we’re he has us 6 mil under the cap, which begs the question why is everyone saying we’re 10 mil over the cap?
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by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Asomugha would be a waste in the AFC North
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"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
by TVsCHACHI on Jul 26, 2011 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank you.
I was beginning to think that I was the only one thinking this!
by Here We Go! on Jul 26, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m curious why you two think this? There are WRs in the AFC North, right?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
but how many Good ones
other than Ward and Wallace
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
A few.
People can sleep on Anquan Boldin if they want to, I won’t.
AJ Green looks special. Even Jordan Shipley can play ball.
I like Greg Little quite a bit.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a bigger name player added to any one of the Steelers three divisional rivals before all is said and done.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Too many other weapons...
I just think that taking one WR out of the equation in any AFC North game is not nearly enough to make the kind of difference that 16-20 million per year ought to make. The teams are just too balanced. There is no team in our division that relies on one superstar wide out to win the game for them… especially when it comes to the Steelers.
there are WRs in the AFC North
but it’s not so much a pass driven division. Asomugha would be a great but expensive addition. I think he’s best suited for Tampa Bay or Detroit. Tampa Bay would do well by making a move for him.
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"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
Why is that? As of right now, we are in position to sign him, I never said it would 100% happen. Don’t let your nipples get too hard babe.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
You've pretty much convinced yourself that it's going to happen
And you’ve been trying to scare people on here by saying that it’s going to happen too.
By the sound of your comments, it sounds like your nipples aren’t the only thing that’s hard when thinking about Asomugha.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Hes just rubbing it in because he knows how much Steeler fans fap over Aso
A long way from Pittsburgh PA, in fact, 8653.2 miles to be precise. My blood still bleeds black and gold like the rest of Steeler Nation, proud fan since 2002.
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably could put up 1,000 if he had a good QB throwing to him
but…
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Flacco?
Nah.
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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 25, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
He went to the Giants, which is what I said he’d do all along. He’s not looking at a great chance of being a productive NFL player, but he’s certainly very marketable. Why be anywhere other than New York?
by Neal Coolong on Jul 26, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Mana Silva, S Hawaii
Still my favorite safety
Also, DeAndre McDaniel from Clemson S
Ryan Jones, CB NW Missouri State
Scott Lutrus, ILB UCONN
Blaine Sumner, NT Colorado School of Mines
Jones and Silva are my priorities.
"The superior man blames himself. The inferior man blames others." Don Shula
Add in Kai Forbath
K, UCLA 87% accuracy and the #2 kicker in the draft
"The superior man blames himself. The inferior man blames others." Don Shula
I believe McDaniel has agreed to sign with the Saints.
And a kicker looking to make a squad could do a whole lot worse than the Steelers. I think this would be an attractive spot for him.
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 25, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
McDaniel was picked up by New Orleans
Mana Silva would be a sweet pick up
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jul 25, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry slow brain right now
Still love Jarriel King, LT, South Carolina
With our two previous signings and McDaniel going to the saints I say we sign
Mana Silva
Ryan Jones
Kai Forbath
Jarriel King
"The superior man blames himself. The inferior man blames others." Don Shula
Did the Steelers even look at Silva?
I thought I heard someone say they didn’t pay much attention to him
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Noone really did because he was out at hawaii in the WAC
Where everyone throws for 400 yrds a season. But as a DB Coach, this kid has the potential to be a very good FS, even a SS. 6 picks as Junior, 8 as a senior. Worth a UDFA look if you ask me.
"The superior man blames himself. The inferior man blames others." Don Shula
Probably better than Damon
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody is better than Damon!
Why is the "football" not round and thrown around?
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jul 25, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear Keenan-Ivory is pretty good too
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 25, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva signed with the Ravens :)
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
What about Herzlich?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not as big on Herzlich as everyone else was anyways. I’m rooting for the guy, but it will be tough with that Iron rod in his leg. I wish him the best of luck though.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I saw on BB that you guys are already calling Silva the next Troy. Nice.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That was one guy’s opinion and nobody agreed with him. I like him as a talented undrafted player, but obviously it’s a lot of wishful thinking to think an undrafted player will become the next Polamalu. I believe he also corrected it and said that he has a playing style similar to Polamalu.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Watch your mouth
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
add
Miquel Chavis, DL Clemson to UDFA list
Greg is offended by the word "Nitschke"
by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Jul 25, 2011 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
REQUEST
Hey folks, please send link when you hear of a new signing. Helps to confirm before I add to list. Much obliged.
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Steelers just signed Nnamdi
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now you're thinking like a Raven.
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Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 25, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
mine was from his twitter
Greg is offended by the word "Nitschke"
by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Jul 25, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
link it
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Any chance we look at Noel Divine?
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how come?
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
His best shot is as a returner or slot receiver IMO.
No real room for him on the roster.
by Steely McSmash on Jul 25, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
also
seeing reports that he’d signed with ATL
by Steely McSmash on Jul 25, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ehh we will see
I think he could be similar to CJ
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he is dumber than a box of rocks
Literally.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jul 25, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
that's about 70 percent of the NFL
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
no, you don't understand
he had to take the SAT SEVEN TIMES to get into WVU
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I had a friend get into WVU with a 2.7 GPA and 820 on his SAT.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
was he from WV or Maryland
because to get into WVU as a in-state student you need a 2.0 and 20 on the ACT
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Maryland. Lol, too funny.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people fail the SATs. But can you blame him…look who his mentor was, an idiot himself
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Devine had like 4 kids by the time he was 18 I think.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Oh, I didn’ tknow Cromartie was his other mentor
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Miami really wanted this dude coming out of H.S.
He had no chance in hell of getting in. EVER.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No chance of getting in where?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Who wants to go to Miami anyway?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
well not to the school
but south beach is nice, wouldn’t mind going back
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Everybody?
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You spelled “Nobody” incorrectly
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
John Stephens wears Miami Hurricanes pajamas
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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Steelers apparently offered Adam DeCicco
A WR from Pitt? And he turned us down for da Bears
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Ahh thats it
Only had the last name
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t blame him.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
hmm sounds familliar
I bet we waive him before camp starts
by Steely McSmash on Jul 25, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohio U. wide receiver Terrence McCrae
http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/95694516530585600
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6'3, 194
4.42 40-yard
lots of TDs and not a lot of yards. Could be an endzone threat kind of guy
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
NOOO!!!!
I heard from a friend Mana Silva just signed with the RatBirds. Say it ain’t so!!!
"The superior man blames himself. The inferior man blames others." Don Shula
lol
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by John Stephens on Jul 25, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, please say it's so about Anthony Gray
I like everything I’ve heard about that kid. People talk about guys anchoring the D line, this guy is literally an anchor.
5’ 11", 330lbs of wrecking ball. Love it!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVACUjHn6yU
Awesome!
I mean, look at this guy…
Does that look like 5’ 11", 330 to you? This kid is going to be an animal, and even more pissed off for not being drafted.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVACUjHn6yU
by Steel Spike on Jul 25, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He was Cody’s understudy at MGC lol
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jul 25, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow! twice my kid's weight
My kid is 5’11" and 165 lbs. That guy is literally double my kid’s weight.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 26, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Colin Miller (OC, Central Michigan)
reported a couple of places.
Camp body more than likely to snap for the third team
by Steely McSmash on Jul 25, 2011 11:43 PM EDT reply actions
Sup my homies.
Back from hiatus.
Why is the "football" not round and thrown around?
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jul 25, 2011 11:48 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve also heard that Terrence McCrae (WR Ohio) has also signed, along with Colin Miller. I’m going to find another source before I change the front page list, however.
Both are probably just camp bodies. I can’t imagine the Steelers have much room for another center or WR on the 53 or the PS.
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 25, 2011 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
i put a qualifier in there
So no need to be QUITE as vigilant about confirming, but definitely look for more than one source, and hopefully not just a random Twitter account but someone you find trustworthy and credible. Thanks for the thread BGS!
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by Michael Bean on Jul 25, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the touch up on the front page, Mike! I’m going to shoot an email your way soon with some ideas I’ve been drumming up. Look out!
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 25, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve also heard Maryland FS Matthew Elliot to the Steelers as well. We’ll see.
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 25, 2011 11:56 PM EDT reply actions
No such player
I looked on Maryland and can’t find a player by that name
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Question
With a new CBA does anyone know if those stupid FA rules for the playoff teams still exist?
Herzlich
Schefter is reporting it’s not a done deal in Balttimore. He’s saying it’s between Baltimore, Philadelphia and Tampa Bay
Add John Clay
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_748448.html
Big back from Wisconsin who didn’t get drafted because of weight and lack of speed. Put up great numbers in college.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jul 26, 2011 7:49 AM EDT reply actions
I wondered about him.
Hey, give the guy a look. If he drops some weight….
by HandsofSweed on Jul 26, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
He's down to 248 apparently
From 275 so that’s a start if he managed to keep the weight down. Could be goal-line short yardage back. I think Redman has it locked down, but I’d like to see a lot of Clay in the preseason.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jul 26, 2011 10:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Turn that kid into a fullback
Put him on the practice squad. Maybe the next OC we have will actually use fullbacks.
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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Oft-injured, fumbled a lot,
didn’t seem to have his heart in the game after his freshman year – doubt he’ll last long.
My heros have always been Steelers...
7 guys so far, according to Steelersdepot
DT Anthony Gray
TE Weslye Saunders
DL Miguell Chavis
WR Terrence McCrae
C Colin Miller
WR Adam Mims
RB John Clay
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"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
Oh
Add WR Armand Robinson
Why so many WRs? I figured we were fine there.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Because they're really not :)
Hines’ age, Wallace’s slowly expiring contract (and the ever increasing chance it will cost big money to tie him up again), Emmanual Sanders is relatively unproven but very promising, and Antonio Brown really didn’t show nearly as much as some seem to think he did last year (though he did show potential, he didn’t show that much that he should be thought of as a reliable backup plan).
Beyond that is the great abyss.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm fine with my WR group
1. Wallace
2. Sanders
3. Ward
4/5. Sweed
4/5. Brown
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm absolutely fine with them as well...
But, where will they all be in two or three years?
This is where the UDFA signings are best focused, planning for the future. They weren’t “good enough” to be drafted, so the plan is with grooming, they could be down the road.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
They can’t keep Hines being paid that much when they need to resign Wallace. Wallace is the future of our WR group IMO. I like that he wants to play until the wheels fall off, but he shouldn’t be making 1st WR money.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Tough calls are going to have to be made...
But all in all, I do agree with you. We’ll see what comes of it.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Need a guy taller than...
We need a starter over 6’0 and heavier than 200lbs. Terrence McCrae, is 6’3" but at 194lbs, he’s a little light. Antonio Brown is listed at 5’10", but I met the guy and he’s more like 5’9 since I’m 5’10. I would like to see Sweed pan out, he looks great on paper, but obviously hasn’t done much.
Says who?
2010 AFC Champs – Wallace, Ward, Mann Sanders (all under you criteria)
2008 SB Champs – Holmes, Ward, Washington (Nate just 6’1, but a mega light weight)
2005 SB Champs – Ward, ARE, Wilson (all under your criteria)
Why do we need a tall WR?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
We just prefer one lol
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly...just prefer
I just think it would help balance a few things out, Ben might be more likely to throw it to a bigger guy. Remember that last drive in the SuperBowl?! And that 2nd interception when he was trying to hit Wallace in the middle? A big WR would be more capable of fighting off defenders for the ball. Just my opinion.
Eric Greenwood
Idaho WR 6’6" – 212lbs.
Ben did.
Remember… Sweed? Ben wants a taller WR but even for him, as below, it’s just a preference.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Ben can have him if he takes a 2 mill pay cut per year
Problem?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
None here...
I’m with you on that too.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
well then sign me up!
I"m 6’3" and 220, but that age thing might be a down side seeing as I’m over 40… But hey – I meet your criteria!
can you run a 4.4 40
and cut like a knife? oh you also have to catch the ball :)
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
oh I can catch the ball, the others - not so much anymore
Dang it – I guess my dream of going pro in any sport will have to be focused on the senior golf tour. At least now I don’t have to have nightmares of getting killed by Harrison during the first practice.
Okay
So we have about 20 minutes until FA starts. Any bold predictions?
I’m sticking with Nnamdi to Tampa, despite what k99 says
I’m going with Steelers cut Foote, Battle, Batch, ARE
I bet they restructure Smith and maybe someone else, like Ben or Harrison
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Nnamdi to Houston
Agree with all the Steeler cuts.
Kolb traded to AZ, who will regret not trading for someone else.
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Favre to Philly?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell, I hope so
Some people hate hearing about Favre, but I would love to see Favre and Vick on the same team.
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you hate Philly that much?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 26, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
tampa is either running a diversion attempt or they are just going to re-sign their own players
Bucs won’t make waves in free agency
Don’t expect the Bucs to go crazy looking for free agents from other teams. GM Mark Dominik indicated Tuesday that he’s more concerned with keeping many of the team’s own free agents — except for LB Barrett Ruud.
They are millions of miles below the cap. They have to make some kind of wave.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
it makes sense in my mind to go after nnamdi
but these glazer guys are very strange so who knows what they are capable of. i am pretty sure they are in financial trouble as like 10% of the shopping malls they own defautled on their mortgages. and they own manchester united but both fan bases hate them as owners b/c they think they are like mccourt.
either way, by friday we will be pretty sure where nnamdi is landing.
Anyone know a good live blog
that keeps up with FA stuff around the league?
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Yahoo
Usually isn’t too bad.
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Do they do a live blog?
Or just new rumor stories?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
They are keeping a feed
Of the Twitter accounts of most good NFL insiders.
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I've got a ton of the tweets coming into my phone
Hooray for unlimited texts!
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish
There was an MLBTradeRumors for football…
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
nnambi = cap buster
yea i said it, good player but not elite qb money
57-105 come on "sale the team"
A qb named nnambi? Who is that?
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
I agree with his point though
I think a team could get pinched with spending QB money on a corner.
I hate to say it, but if the Ravens could get him for 3 years, 50 million, they should do it. Even with a young offense, the window is closing with the Defense you have now. I would go for it over the next 3 years and then count on the offense when Flacco is in his prime.
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I highly doubt anyone is going to give him over 3 years, 50 million. That is insane. Revis didn’t even come close to that much I believe. Anyone who think Nnamdi is getting 18-20 million a year is crazy. He will get 12, 15 tops.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
He just got done with 3-45 million
Why would he settle for less?
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know, but I don’t see how any team will pay 3 years 60-70 million. That is fucking mayhem.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Yea
what would be the point of this lockout… it an oxymoron
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
They won't have to
3-50 is still almost 16 a year. It seems crazy, but I wouldn’t be surprised. Plus, you will have to pay more to lock him up short term. He might take 12 mil a year over 5-6 years, but 15-17 for 3 would be reasonable. (Not reasonable, but what he will command).
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
if there is a bidding war, nnamdi could get to $18-20mm
tampa has to spend $68mm (they are only at $52mm cap now as of this am i heard). if dallas or wash somehow gets into the mix and tampa wants nnamdi then they might do it. why wouldn’t you if you have only 3-4 months to basically double your payroll.
the problem is that only tampa has the dry powder while most of the others who want nnamdi are too close or over the cap.
He will be overpaid
Any raven fan who thinks they will get him for 12 million is wrong. If they got him for that I would probably lose faith in everything.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
agree, the number for nnamdi could be 16-20mm+
it just depends who wants him badly and if they are way under the cap. if tampa wants him badly enough they could pretty much pay up to $22mm but they would probably be competing with themselves. that would only be a scenario where he really wants to go to CA or near NY and they try to blind him with dollars.
it's insane - but a team like TB has enough cap space for 3 of him at that rate.
How the hell does any team run that far under the cap? No wonder the players put in that 99% rule in the new CBA. What a cheap bastard they have down there.
or they have a really young team
which is what the Bucs have
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
ok - thats true
but they still have plenty of space to sign him to $18-20 for a 3 year contract and still could have it expiring about when the young guys are up for their new contracts.
glazers are known to be cheapskates
it’s not the age of the team as much as the glazers are straight-up cheap. and they don’t have to worry about their young players b/c the cap will be going up in the future quite nicely so there will be plenty of room to re-sign their players in the future.
glazers may not only be cheapskates but in financial trouble
for years there have been rumors, they own manchester united and at one time were paying double digit interest on debt they used to buy the team. they should probably sell one of these two teams to stronger hands.
accounting tricks
but now they have to spend the money and they can’t just do it for a year and then revert to your cheap ways. it’s 99% for the next 2 years, 95% 3rd after then it goes to 89%.
but the key is cash spend that makes all the difference.
That was the Raiders.
if he wants out of there, he probably wont get that kind of money.
by indianasteelers on Jul 26, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
if he goes to tampa bay, he will get paid more than the raiders
they have to increase their payroll (in cash) by $68mm by december, that is just too much money to spend without being aggressive in FA. there are a few other teams that have $40mm+ to spend.
this is a one-time adjustment which is basically throwing about $250mm from cheap teams that were always far under the cap into the wage pool. for highly valued FAs this should result in a one-time jump in payrolls.
Steelers sign TE Vaughn Charlton
from Temple
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LMAO
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
he is coming off of knee surgery
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
CM PUNK IS MY HERO
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
still hilarious though
Because EVERY player on there, except him, has a team interested
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Terrence McCrae a Steeler Too?
Inside Pittsburgh Sports is also reporting that the Steelers have agreed to terms with OSU wide out Terrence McCrae.
The Steelers success with Unrestricted Rookie Free Agents has given the Steelers and edge in the past. It will be interesting to see if they can maintain it in this under these highly unique circumstances.
by Hombre de Acero on Jul 26, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions
You guys got S Brent Greenwood from Iowa
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Y'all got Ryan Bartholomew from 'Cuse.
Avoid the shotgun formation.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I am taller than him I hear.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Workout warrior...
Lots of measurables, I think he’s got upside. Just not a good snapper of the ball. Birk will work with him, he’ll be alright.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Official from Steelers.com
Vaughn Charlton, TE/HB (Temple)
John Clay, HB (Wisconsin)
Terrence McCrae, WR (Ohio)
Armand Robinson, WR (Miami University)
Adam Mims, WR (Furman)
Weslye Saunders, TE (South Carolina)
Colin Miller, C (Central Michigan)
Trevis Turner, OT (Abilene Christian)
Brent Greenwood, S (Iowa)
Niles Brinkley, CB (Wisconsin)
Eric Clanton, OLB (Citadel)
Mario Harvey, MLB (Marshall)
Miguel Chavis, DE (Clemson)
Anthony Gray, DT (Southern Miss)
Eric Greenwood, WR (Idaho)
source
I wish I could update the article
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lol at Charlton's position description
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn, you guys got Harvey and Clay. Two really good pickups right there.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Yeah
I’m excited about Harvey and Gray. I didn’t want Harvey as a draft pick, but he could be a diamond in the rough for us.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Add Gray to that mix and I think we did really well.
I would have loved Herzlich, but that is a great haul.
The Poster Formerly Known As Gimpsta7
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
I am sure a lot of people will be excited about Harvey
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup, I’m one of ‘em. He was extremely productive in college (144 tackles, 8.5 sacks last year) and has the size (257 lbs) and speed (4.43) to play in the league. His 3 cone and 20 yard shuttle times were also some of the best among LBs. He’s physical and is a good character guy. If he can contribute on special teams, he has a chance to make this squad even as deep as we are at the LB spot.
I hope he can
Then we could take Foote off the books
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
yep, DEFINITELY worth signing.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jul 26, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
MARK HERZLICH IS A GIANT!!!
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For realz?
At least he isn’t a Raven. That makes sense for them. I would have preferred the Steelers though. It would have been awesome.
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I am glad he isn't
Now I can root for him.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I will root for him.
Still haven’t watched Blind Side since Oher went to the Ravens…
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
silly Ravens trix is for kids.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
God damn Adam Schefter.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
He looks like Dan Snyder’s little brother.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Never thought of that
But very true…
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
UDFA'S know Pittsburgh is a good place to sign...
A stable franchise with a lot of veterans. They won’t get lost in the stampede.
This is an unprecedented situation, and Pittsburgh’s reputation as a team that’s been fair to UDFA’s and as a good place to work may be paying dividends.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
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by Homer J. on Jul 26, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Very good observation - Rec'd
I’m glad we got three good Big Ten guys in Clay, Greenwood and Brinkley. Latrobe should be interesting, despite the abbreviated period.
"You have two hemispheres in your brain - a left and a right side. The left side controls the right side of your body and right controls the left half. It's a fact. Therefore, left-handers are the only people in their right minds."
Bill "Spaceman" Lee
Source: Sports Illustrated (April 7, 1980)
by Flying Polamalus on Jul 26, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Dammit
I just heard Terps LB Wujciak went to the Browns. How awful.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
We signed Laquan Williams.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
sounds about right
:) #GoPack
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn
Ken Laird on John Clay
Combine weigh-in was 6’0, 231 w/ 4.82 40Lumbering.
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Redman will eat him.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Hell, Dwyer will eat him as well
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Bill "Spaceman" Lee
Source: Sports Illustrated (April 7, 1980)
by Flying Polamalus on Jul 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
in his defense
it’s going to be hard to tackle him
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I will be the first
HE IS THE NEXT BETTIS!!!
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he's going to be a FB
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
don’t bring me down, bro
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
as I described him to a friend
the big ole fucker that’s built like the Bus
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
would you describe his feet as nimble?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
not really
he is more like a Brandon Jacobs-type of runner
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
So he sucks?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
no he just leaves people wondering what the liscene plate number is to the truck that ran them over
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Of all the UDFA signings so far...
I have to say, this one does the least for me. I see no situation where he is useful even into the near future.
This is the head scratcher of the group for me.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
telling you he is going to be the FB
he is a Gary Russell clone, not sure if he has his return skills though
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not a good thing
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
didn't say it was a good thing
I’m just going off of BA history of FB choices
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome.
I love fullbacks with no hands that can’t block.
He will not break camp a Steeler… calling it now.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Bet he misses first cuts
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not normally this pesimistic about guys...
Especially those who haven’t played at all as of yet.
I’m looking for any upside in him, and I just don’t see it.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Steelers "FBs"
…are TEs, basically. You won’t see a running back in that spot, you’ll see David Johnson clones. If he’s not a halfback, he’s not on the team.
by Neal Coolong on Jul 26, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
its for when Rashard
Denounces Captain America on twitter for not letting the evil red guy “tell his side of the story,” leading to a shameful pr mess which ends in him being traded to the cowboys for one of Jerry Jones’ shoelaces.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jul 26, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So was I
But I got impatient
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
at a 4.82 40 time
he might not be able to beat the Bus in a foot race today.
I like the idea of him being a FB, but for now he’s probably fighting for a PS slot.
The signings I really like are
John Clay, Mario Harvey, Anthony Gray, Weslye Saunders, Terrence McCrae, and Eric Greenwood. I think those are the ones that have shots at making the roster.
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 26, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
I think the first three are the best
With Saunders having a legit chance moving forward.
Give us a little breakdown/player comparison later?
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep I will have one out maybe tomorrow or Thursday
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 26, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Great, thanks
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
In all honesty, I think Gray and Saunders have a chance with Harvey being an outside shot.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Greenwood and McCrae will battle with Sweed for the 5th WR spot due to their height
McCRae is 6’3" and Greenwood is 6’6"
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 26, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Choo choo!
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
just curious, but don't we normally carry 6 WR's?
Dropping ARE and Battle should allow for 2 open slots.
I don't think we normally do
I think we just had 6 last year because of the youth
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Goodbye Sweed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Not
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Harvey
will likely be practice squad, but I think he could be someone to watch moving forward.
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Pat Devlin to the Dolphins
I thought he should have went in round 4 or 5
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 26, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
Good signing for them
They like those type of players, and they didn’t give up anything to make the signing.
Good move.
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by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Roster limit is 90
Steelers at about 80, per Steelers depot
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we
will we go up to the limit or how does that work?
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Usually they will go right to it. More bodies in camp is better.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Im going out to the beach. When I get back around 3 to 4 PM I will start working on a UDFA player analysis
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 26, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
Let me know if you need some help
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Alriight. What is your email? I will send you an email when I get working on it
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 26, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
john.stephens8@yahoo.com
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
It is actually BRETT Greenwood
Not Brent Greenwood. And he should will be an awesome Free Safety for you guys.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jul 26, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
Blame Steelers.com
lol
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW
Gray picked us over Green Bay…interesting
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Silva picked us over you.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
isn't that a drug?
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Salvia*
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
i know
just teasin ya
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
So we've established Silva is a moron...
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by Michael Bean on Jul 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oops, sorry
This isn’t Michael Bean. I’m in Bean’s account, don’t want his name associated with my trash talk…
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by Michael Bean on Jul 26, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
lies!
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
HACKER!!
A long way from Pittsburgh PA, in fact, 8653.2 miles to be precise. My blood still bleeds black and gold like the rest of Steeler Nation, proud fan since 2002.
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha Mr. Bean with the zinger
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol John, Josh Portis of all people is going to be in the NFL. Seahawks got him.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Seahawks being the Seahawks
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
He is maybe the worst QB in Terps history next to Steffe.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
O'Donnell
Just humor me and tell me he was the worst ever.
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by Michael Bean on Jul 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
He was a pretty good Terp, shitty Steeler.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
That last name has been erased from my memory bank. Does not compute.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Years of therapy...
I can say the last name, but not the first and last names together.
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by Michael Bean on Jul 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought you were a Longhorns guy?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you missed the part where I said I wasn’t really Michael Bean. My identity crisis is now over though. Back to picking at Malor without any false pretenses!
by Neal Coolong on Jul 26, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm. Coolong = Bean. Conspiracy
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
And I thought “we” were confusing enough.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Shut up, me.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I am you...
…as you are me, and we are him and we are all together.
by Neal Coolong on Jul 26, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha, man he was bad. I was always a Holenback fan.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
Anyone excited about Mario Harvey
I don’t remember much about the WVU-Marshall game this year, but I remember him flying all over the field making plays
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Very excited for Harvey
Probably practice squad for a bit, but could be something special.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
His signing
Is a certainty that Madison and/or Battle will not be back IMO.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It's been 2 hours
I for one was really hoping an absurd deal would already be reported!
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Only one veteran FA signing so far
and it was nothing to talk about
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what I'm saying!
Where is Manning being swapped for Brady!
Where is a package of Big Ben, Rashard and Deebo for Patrick Willis, Nnamdi Asomugha (sign and trade) and the rights to Andrew Luck?!
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
i think they want to wait until the afternoon
if they move too fast then it looks like they were tampering all along, i am pretty sure the kolb to az was agreed to months ago but if they announced it at 10:01 am how bad would that look?
This is why I love baseball
There is always obvious tampering. In baseball you can steal signs.
In football tapes are burned and they pretend deals that should take 3 months really only took them 4 hours.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Wesley Saunders was rated the no. 1 TE ....
For 2011 before the season in Lindy’s Football magazine. The kid has a chance. Mario Harvey probably means that LB Keyaron Fox won’t be back. Can you see 5’11’’, 255 coming down on a kickoff at you with 4.4 speed? I have been to Steelers games when James Harrison was on the kickoff team and that was a sight to see. Damn!!!, the Steelers have done a lot better in signing rookie free agents than I thought they would.
Saunders, Harvey and Gray will at the least be on the practice squad with Saunders and Harvey having a real shot to make the team. Gray could make the squad if Hokie don’t come back, but I don’t see that happening. The Hokie Pokie will be back in the Burgh at least one more season.
by datruth4life2.0 on Jul 26, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
Calling it now
Saunders makes the 53. Spaeth is gone, David Johnson can be the second TE out of the base offense, and they can go three-wide much more often this year than they wanted to last year. Not sure how much Saunders will see the field right away – needs to learn to block – but they’re gonna keep him involved.
by Neal Coolong on Jul 26, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re probably right. Not resigning Spaeth is a quick and easy way to keep the Steelers under the cap. The Steeler WR’s are certainly a much better and deeper group than most defensive backfields and the Steelers ought to exploit this with a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets.
From the games I saw last year – mostly watching the rest of the SEC beat around my Wildcats – Saunders is a pretty good blocker…when he wants to be. He can certainly make the 53 if he’s willing to do what it takes.
Also, having any guy that pisses of Spurrier enough to have him kicked off the team instantly endears a guy to me. So, i’m rooting for him.
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 26, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
And by last year, I mean 2009-2010. I live in the past. Guh.
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 26, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love for Saunders to take Spaeth's spot
He was the number one TE before this past season and even though he had some problems, his skill set is perfect for us. Great low-risk signing.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That depends
on if Spaeth has lost the photos he obviously had of Arians and Tomlin with farm animals that has kept him on the roster every year so far…
Only if...
Saunders shows he can keep his head screwed on. If he does, you may well be correct.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 26, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Congrats to DaTruth for picking UDFAs
Back on May 1, on a post from Seton Hall & Steelers, DaTruth picked 6 UDFAs the Steelers should sign. He got 3 correct and 2 of the others got picked up by other NFL teams.
Great picking, Truth
i think once someone pulls the trigger on a high profile deal
others will follow quickly, might take until tomorrow b/c there are just so many moving parts.
This Armand Robinson kid
Could be a find. 6’1" 200 lbs from Big Ben’s alma mater Miami of Ohio. Had a great senior year-94 catches 1062 yards and 6 TDs-with two of his better games coming against Florida and Missouri.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jul 26, 2011 12:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mike Florio thinks the Ravens should target Ike
Can you imagine how hated he would be?
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions
well at least we wouldn't have to worry about an interception if Ben throws at him.
It may be incomplete, but if it’s picked off the odds are it bounced off of Ike’s hands and landed in Reed’s.
Gray is a definite PS guy if he shows anything in camp – possible 3rd NT who could make it on the 53-man roster depending on how things shake out with McClendon, Hoke, and Smith even.
Saunders though is a real find. The Steelers lack depth at TE without Spaeth and don’t really have a dependable pass catcher after Miller (although Spaeth has really come along as a blocker and Johnson is a nice little H-Back/Fullback/TE hybrid). He could make the active roster and should at least see time on the PS.
by BluegrassSteeler on Jul 26, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think we hold 3 NT's on the 53
But I wouldn’t be surprised to see him called up after an injury or just later in the season when Snack needs rest and him getting some snaps. I think he was a fantastic signing.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's hoping snack doesn't come in at 450 with this time off
With our cap issues and his history with Tomlin, that could get ugly in a hurry. At which point this Gray might get a shot at more than a PS slot.
I don't think Gray is ready for any significant action yet
He’s not really as good as people think. He’s just a big dude, not really mobile or able to really hold up at the point of attack against double teams.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Some surprises keep coming: Cowboys informed former Pro Bowl right guard Leonard Davis they will be releasing him this week.
Cut Kemo…get this dude? 32 years old though
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Actually, in my opinion, they're relatively comparable...
Both are huge guys, both have a temper on the field, and both are limited in the pass blocking game. They’ll both maul you in the run game, but I think Kemo is slightly more athletic (in terms of quickness pulling).
I dunno, kind of a wash, even though Davis would be an upgrade. The cost in cutting Kemo (cap penalty) and signing Davis might be more expensive than keeping the younger player. All in all, I dunno.
Another tough call.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Just throwing it out there for discussion. I don’t watch the Cowboys play much, but Davis finished last season with a 6.7 rating on PFF and Kemo finished with a -21.5. PFF is not perfect, but that is a pretty significant difference.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's true
But Davis will cost about 10 times as much as Kemo will.
by Neal Coolong on Jul 26, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe/maybe not
He is 32.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I HIGHLY doubt that.
Kemo is costing $4M this year. There aren’t many $40M/year guards in the league.
Dump Kemo and upgrade!
On Asomugha, Texans will go hard; you have to believe their offer will top all; that’s a Super Bowl contender if they land him.
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If they shore up the defense the Texans would be for real.
I don’t know about the SB, but they definitely could win that division.
my gut tells me nnamdi wants to play for the NY Jets
he wants to be an actor upon retirement and that means either NY or LA and he has family in NY. texans are going to throw money at him, tampa should do that too, with $68mm to spend what’s the real risk?
Just as long as Baltimore doesn't get him
I am fine with it
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
they might have a chance if NY can't spend
and nnamdi wants to stay near NY. it would be ironic if we have all this drama and speculation and then nnamdi just re-signs with the raiders. that would be the biggest bait and switch ever.
Houston has no cap room
and Asomugha has said he wants to play for the Jets because when he’s done with football he wants to be…wait for it….an actor.
by Neal Coolong on Jul 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Jets don’t have that much cap room do they?
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Maybe if they don’t sign Braylon, Cromartie, or Brad Smith.
by Austin Jackson on Jul 26, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
They wouldn’t need Cromartie. Big deal is they would be hurting for WRs.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It has been reported he would take less to be a Jet
but they would have to make some other moves too. Probably lose Ellis.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
he has done some acting
a few guest appearances?? friday night lights. but his brother (i think) lives in NY and that may be a factor too.
Could you imagine Revis and Asomugha
Wowza
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I can imagine them still not making the SB
and Rex making another bold prediction that they’ll make it next year…
players love rex
because he knows how to handle them, since he was in diapers he has been around NFL players, watching his dad and bud grant coach. that may be another reason nnamdi would go to the jets.
I'll f'n puke
…If I read or hear one more statement about how much Rex Ryan’s players love him. Although the Jeff Saturday/Bob Kraft story is quickly giving it a run for the title, Rex Ryan and his bromance with his players is the most overdone story since “Jerome Bettis is from Detroit.”
by Neal Coolong on Jul 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So…Rex Ryan is the next Bettis?!
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
not rex's players
but players from around the league, if you asked all NFL players what coach they would want to play for, he is near or at the top of the list.
i am sure a lot of players would like to play for Tomlin too but steelers aren’t a big trade/FA destination so that’s not on their minds.
Not sure about that
the players aren’t that good at making lists…
by Steely McSmash on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
well get your bucket out
from ESPN tonite:
Asomugha is said to be fond of Ryan, and he’s friendly with Revis. Two years ago at the Pro Bowl, they talked about one day playing together, which created headlines. At the time, Asomugha was under contract to the Raiders.
I don't think they would be favorites
They are going to be worse on DL, and they are losing maybe two of their 3 WR’s. I don’t think Sanchez is a franchise QB either. So I think that while they would have the best corners (no competition) in the NFL, but might not be a better team overall.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The only place I see him going that could hurt us bad
Is if he went to Baltimore. That is why I am rooting against it.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I think losing Holmes and Edwards would hurt them bad offensively and I don’t see how they could sign Asomugha and sign either of them too when they are right around the cap. Even at a discount that’s like 12 or 13 mill for Asomugha.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
jets will also make a serious run at nnamdi
rex will push for it and woody johnson will support it but there is a limit to what they can do. they just don’t have the flexibility they would like to have.
Theyll never win a Superbowl with Sanchez at QB
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
if they have Revis and Nnamdi at CB
then I wouldn’t wager against it. That however is a real long shot seeing how they have their hands full trying to re-sign other free agents.
jets are very interested in nnamdi
they already have sanchez agreeing to redo his deal. they want to re-sign holmes and get nnamdi and it appears nnamdi really wants to play in NY. this seems like a move the jets would do (this is a typical NY big market play), not sure if it is the smartest move but only time will tell.
On Tuesday, quarterback Mark Sanchez said he’d be willing to restructure his contract, which has three years remaining, to create more cap room to sign free agents.
Asomugha is said to be fond of Ryan, and he’s friendly with Revis. Two years ago at the Pro Bowl, they talked about one day playing together, which created headlines. At the time, Asomugha was under contract to the Raiders.
If Asomugha is looking for the most money, it probably rules out the Jets, with teams such as the Dallas Cowboys and Houston Texans reportedly among his suitors.
Relevant
RT @McGrath8909: @mortreport do you think the bengals will offer Jonathan Joseph a competitive deal? >> I’d think so.
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Why the hell would go back there?
Especially when he can get more money and a better team around him elsewhere.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he likes
the police profiling :) loves the attention
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes! Mims! I go to Furman, and Mims was our entire offense. He singlehandedly tore up South Carolina, and put the fear of an upset in them. He’s little, but he’s got 4.4 speed and a whole lot of talent. I would love to see him make it with the Steelers.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 26, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
They're saying he's strictly a return man
But maybe a Danny Woodhead 2.0
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jul 26, 2011 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Question is
can he be a gunner on ST? Thats the only way he makes the roster
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see that. He was a pretty electric returner last season.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 26, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Cowboys are hacking up their lineup
They just cut Marion Barber to add to the 3 or 4 other vet cuts
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I'd bet money...
If the Bengals don’t re-sign Benson, he’ll be their back next year. Just seems like a Bengals move to me.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Was he arrested lately?
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
But to take in a player who looked like he was past his best years at a lower price in hopes he returns to his past form is the Bengal way. From Benson to TO, to Tank Johnson and Roy Williams, they give it the old Cincy try.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Benson and TO worked out, for at least a year.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He was
And for that reason alone they should resign him.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't know he was...
My mistake. What did he do?
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
accused of assault i believe
Two weeks ago.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jul 26, 2011 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Performing a smh in a no smhing zone
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Marion Barber shouldve been a Steeler
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Steelers add 3 more UDFAs
Ty Boyle, DE (North Dakota)
Joshua Harrison, T (South Carolina State)
Derek Chard, LS (Connecticut)
source
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I think Chard could mean bye bye Greg Warren
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly…..
My next thoughts will be if the Steelers decide to hack their roster like Dallas is currently doing
It has to come. We are over the cap with still our 1-4 round guys to sign
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. I just don’t want Aaron Smith to go out like this (if they release him) Would like to see him go on his own terms….hope he restructures
I’d love to see him, Ben, and Harrison restructure so we can keep Ike around. Doubt it though.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont know the exact terms of it, but isnt Bens contract quite cap friendly? I thought it was Harrisons one that hurts us the most.
If Aaron Smith is not restructured, a little part of me will die inside, one of my most favorite Steelers from the moment I started following NFL
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
it's friendly compared to Manning's potential $25M per one
but its not overly friendly. I think it costs around $15M against the cap. Personally I’d guess he will restructure to keep Wallace around etc, but it’s not the end of the world having your franchise QB taking that amount on the team.
The travesty is how much the OL takes while trying their damnedest to kill said franchise QB. I don’t mind them paying for greatness, I just hate them paying top dollar for players that couldn’t start for any other playoff team.
cowboys may make a play for nnamdi too
i think jerry will feel left out if he isn’t in the mix.
Your probably right
But if they were smart they would try and pick up Derrick Mason. He could help Romo a lot.
by steelerintexas on Jul 26, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
UDFA Trend
Interesting trend with UDFAs that have been successful with the Steelers in the last 10 years. The majority of them have been in 4 position groups.
HB\FB -5
Interior OL – 4
LB – 2
NT – 2
WR – 1
CB – 1
S – 1
Due to the increased focus on the passing game, it would make sense that the top 4 position groups listed would be more likely to have quality players that were not drafted. By the time you get to the end of the draft QBs,CBs, WRs, and Tackles are all going to be pretty heavily picked over. Based on this, the current team depth chart, and the quality of the UDFAs, Harvey and Gray would seem to fit the profile. BTW I used the list of successful UDFAs from the following article – http://steelcurtainrising.blogspot.com/2011/07/steelers-rookie-free-agent-history-of.html
Define successful interior OL…haha
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope not
He has no leg. He was a fine replacement, but give me a college player or something.
I still think Robo Punter is the best option, just needs to not injure himself on tackles
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sepulveda's production isn't worth anything more than league minimum
he’s only averaged 37.9 yards net on his punts, and has missed 20 games in his 4 years.
That is the definition of a draft bust – especially since we blew 2 picks on a freaking punter.
Bring in a UDFA to beat him out.
Rob Long.
This is a name I’ve been looking for today, but unfortunately (and not too surprisingly) I have not seen it.
Much like Herzlich, he battled cancer recently, and also like Herzlich, he has been cleared by doctors, who say he’s shown no symptons and they’ve found nothing after treatment.
He’s a solid punter, averaging just under 44 yards per kick last season and a few season prior to last.
Hard to ignore the story once you know it, and hard to ignore that there is an opening at his position in Pittsburgh. They might not mesh in the end, but I wish him all the best, and hope he ends up somewhere in the NFL.
I agree with this sentiment
But I still think Robo Punter is our best option moving forward. I hope he sticks somewhere though.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just gun-shy on Robo punter’s knees. 1 ACL surgery while at Baylor and 2 more as a Steeler. He is a great athlete but the football gods haven’t given him a break….
I hope so. I met him at camp last yr and he’s a great guy. Pretty big for a punter as well. I wouldn’t mess with him!
Watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FhCgLeuO0I
The Sepulverizer decleating a punt returner while at Baylor.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVACUjHn6yU
That is a true Steelers Punter
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm much more interested in what Sepulveda has not done for the Steelers
like staying on the field than re-watching that hit he made during college. There’s only so much mileage that hit can give him.
Anyone have an accurate chart break down of salaries for our team?
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Williams sucks anyway
They are just now under the cap with that move. I doubt they are making a big move.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
So all of that cutting was just to be below cap? Damm….makes me shudder on what we may have to do then…
I think the Cowboys were in a worse situation than us
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
well none of these numbers are truly accurate.
espn blog july 20th it was this: Dallas $18.9 million over
then july 25th it is $13.9mm as reported by yahoo.
who knows, you need to see their backup math to get an accurate #.
jerry jones will restructure every contract in his house if he has to
you know he desperately wants to be in the nnamdi sweepstakes.
you know it
http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/story/15354872/jones-boys-have-plenty-of-cap-space-to-sign-whoever
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by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He ain't gettin Nnamdi
Too many big contracts to restructure.
They would also have to release too many players like Newman, Brooking, Sensabaugh, Kosier, Colombo, etc.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
they already released colombo
and i have heard rumors newman was in play too.
Newman and Brooking are definitely gone
Not enough production.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If I'm Chicago, I'm pouncing on Williams ASAP
No matter how overrated he is
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
cowboys may be further under cap than we think
if $13.9mm was correct, cutting williams got rid of almost $10mm:
The Star-Telegram reported that Williams was scheduled to make $5.1 million in base salary and would have counted $9.5 million against the cap.
Nice
When we release Sweed, he, Williams, and VY can all go to the same team and suck together.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
@E_Sanders88 Headed to the steelers facility to go hard with @AntonioBrown84. #legggo
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This!!!
Awfully good thing here. I still think Antonio Brown will have to prove himself given all these new WR signees. Good to see our guys hungry.
Bengals signed Matt O'Donnell, a tackle from Canada...
Any of our friends from the great white north have any more insight on him than I do? I only saw him in the Shrine Game.
He's a freak
A huge, powerful blocker. Not so sure about his feet. Leverage might be an issue, but at 6-11, reach won’t be!!!
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
He looked pretty bad in the Shrine Game...
Just a bad day, or what?
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Raw is most likely
Kids coming out of the Canadian University system maybe be good athletes but they are usually a couple of years behind their US counterparts in terms of training. ie Israel Idonije and Vaughn Martin.
Give him a couple of years of training and conditioning on the ps and he may be a keeper.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 26, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
I don’t know how they do things outside of Quebec and big Ontario programs, but training and conditioning here is not the issue. The games are just very different and require adaptation. We see it the other way around when players come from the U.S. to play in the CFL. I don’t think O’Donnell is a great athlete, just a huge frame whose wingspan helped in pass pro in 3down football.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
Big frame
O’Donnell’s big frame probably meant he never had to get in top condition to dominate his competition in Canada (just an assumption on my part but I suspect is very true). One of the things I keep hearing about promising rookies is that they still need raise their level of conditioning to make it through an NFL season. It is also the case in the CFL.
I think the training kids get at the high school level in Canada is behind that in the US. I think the gap may be closing but I still think there is a way to go. This means the kids go into college behind their counterparts and it is all catch-up after that. The difference between 3 down and 4 down football may be a contributing factor but I don’t think it is the major factor.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 27, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
H.S. programs are behind here as far as strength and conditioning. Although in Québec the CEGEP level helps quite a bit to bridge that gap. And as far as the differences in the game, there are a bunch of factors (rules/field size, etc.) that come into play and I think it requires quite a different baggage technically for most players so I’d not discard this too fast.
Dick, what would Woody (Hayes) say to you now: "He'd say, 'LeBeau, get your hair cut.'"
Manitoba
I think we are playing catch-up with Ontario and Quebec but I think it is happening. My kid’s under 16 team has clinched 1st in the Red River Cup this week with a 3-0-1 record (a tie with Nova Scotia). The only team from outside the region (Nova Scotia) had been unbeaten till they got to this tourney but they are going into the round robin for bronze with a 1-1-2 record.
These 15 yr old kids seem to have more skills and football smarts than any midget players (15-17) and most high school players I remember from my days as a player.
Slightly off-topic, are US high school teams allowed to recruit? The reason I ask is that one of the Nova Scotia players is rumored to be getting scouted by a team in Florida. The kid is a 15 yr old 6’0", 250 lb DT who is fast and strong (38 presses of 145 lbs at a skills comp during this tourney). He dominated our o-line much of the game.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jul 29, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
U.S.
schools are not supposed to recruit, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
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by stillergorillar on Jul 30, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I wondered if that was the case
The kid I thought was a DT also was lining up as an outside LB and I saw him coming off the field as part of the offense at one point as well (watching some highlights on youtube). The interesting part is that the kid is still carrying a bit of a gut and probably isn’t in top condition. Some time with a good personal trainer and the kid could be a beast.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 2, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
@MarkKaboly_Trib Been told Chris Hoke wants to return to #Steelers and Steelers want Hoke. But also
If this is annoying, just tell me to stop.
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oops
But also told him he was second priority, for whatever that means
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Means
that they don’t expect Hoke to run all over the league looking for a better offer. THey’ll work the FA mess and take care of him later.
by Steely McSmash on Jul 27, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Priorities are
Taylor, Colon, Scott, Suisham
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"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
You sure about Colon?
They haven’t spoken to his agent in like 2 years.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless you know more than PG Plus, then yes
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't
I’m just wondering how they bring back Colon when Flozell had a decent year and Gilbert is backing him up.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they
are trying to put gilbert at guard first.
Flozell is only a one year deal.
If you can bring back colon you can have him for several years.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is a waste to put him at guard
He’s 6"7’. Plus we’ve got pretty good depth there if Keith Williams sticks.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Colon could be cheaper resigned
And then we cut Flo.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If they resign Colon
They cut Flozell. Colon is younger and more talented. We’d have to get him cheaper than 5 mill a season.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
if they resign Colon
then I’ll add him to my “Why are we paying them so much and not trying youth?” list along with Starks and Kemo.
J. Scott getting resigned I guess can replace Essux as an OL that can play multiple positions at a below average level.
Colon is a lot better than Starks and Kemo
We can’t just put a bunch of low paid turds on the line.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
just overpaid turds I guess
Now if they sign him and he can play guard or RT then it might be worth it, but he has too slow of feet to be good in pass protection on the edge. I screamed at him many times the year before last as his guy ran around him like he was a traffic cone. Adams did better at that and he’s pushing 60 or something. If colon can be a stop gap until Gilbert or C. Scott are ready than move inside to guard it would be fine, just please don’t give him a contract that makes me gag like they did with Kemo and Starks.
My hopes for the line are in C. Scott and Gilbert developing to take 2 spots. Hopefully Gilbert can eventually take over LT and C. Scott at RT – I don’t know which. At the very least I’d expect them both to crack the lineup within 2 years at guard or we’ll be needing a new QB within 3 years. I just hate it when we give these guys contracts above their ability and then year after year after year watch Ben get pummeled while never seeing any of the young guys playing on game day.
You sure you watched Colon back in 09'?
Because I did very closely, and I don’t remember seeing him get beat badly too many times.
The guy performed at a near Pro Bowl level.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m kind of confused.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
But how sure is the FO about his recovery from that Achilles?
I don’t have a problem with paying Willie what he deserves, but the last lineman we had that tore his Achilles was gone the next season. I know he had diabetes also, but that injury pretty much did him in.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why you have to pass a physical to earn your contract
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
when you start off slow, having an Achilles injury can't help
I cringe to think of how easy it will be for pass rushers to get around him if he’s lost even any of his foot speed that was lacking before.
I know that
But to say that he is a priority is a bold statement. I would agree with you had he not gotten injured, but it is what it is.
It’s really hard to rebound after an injury like that.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not the one saying it. The guy who said it has direct access to the players, coaches, etc.
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by John Stephens on Jul 27, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
That should work
Thanks Toona
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't this too old?
National Football League Salaries
2009-10 Pittsburgh Steelers Salaries
according to this list
we have no offensive guards
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 26, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, why the hell shouldn't we restructure Starks
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Yeah, I saw that too….He appears to be getting premium LT money for doing not so much of a premium job
that's what I was saying before
Starks and Kemo are the most overpaid Steelers that I can ever remember. There paying king crab prices for a freaking turkey burger.
My feelings would not be hurt if they cut Kemo.
by steelerintexas on Jul 26, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
more like paying king crab prices for a can of SPAM
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
I know that this is a bit off topic, but...
I’ve been a die-hard since about ‘78, and I’m just getting ready to make my first trip to Latrobe next Tuesday. Can anybody offer any advice on the best places to be at what times? I’m also interested in a good place for lunch and a cold adult beverage. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
That's easy :)
Dino’s and Sharky’s are both sports bars on 30, right by St. Vincent that have good beer, good food (the wings at Dino’s are a MUST for everyone in the area), and both have Steelers players and coaches visit at night. Good Italian food is either at Denunzio’s at Latrobe Air Port (beautiful view to runway also), or Gino’s in downtown Latrobe. If you are willing to drive a little, the Ligonier Tavern about 15 minutes down 30 (opposite direction of Greensburg) is pretty delicious.
As for pure bars, you might have more luck in Greensburg (about 15-20 minutes away), where bars like Rialto, Badges, and Oliver’s Pourhouse (just opened, great atmosphere and drinks) are more appealing than the Latrobe alternatives.
Any more questions? Let me know! :)
Good info on the social life...
How about for the football part of it? Do you have any good tips on navigating the camp?
What direction are you coming from?
The college is easily accessible from Route 30, the signage should be clear. People will navigate you to a parking spot.
If you want to line up to get autographs from the players before practice, I would advise coming a few hours early because people go crazy running to the fences lining the players’ way out from the lockers. In my personal opinion, you might as well wait until after practice – I have seen players like Troy, Hines, Ben, Ike, James Harrison, and others come to the bleachers afterwards for autographs and the lines there are much smaller and more manageable.
As for what to bring, a cooler with cold drinks is an absolute must. Latrobe can get hot in the summer, and there is little room for shade, so you might also want to bring a hat or something or the like. Finally, lawn chairs might be a good idea, because Tomlin likes to practice on artificial turf before preseason games on the same surface, and the artificial turf field at Saint Vincent College is not close to the bleachers – if you don’t want to sit in the grass or stand the entire time, lawn chairs are definitely a good idea.
That should be about it for the time being! Shoot me an email under diegogarfunkel@msn.com if you need any more info :)
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courtesy of M. Uhlhorn:
HEY!
Arn takes Jerry Rice to dancin’ school. I’m a little disappointed he didn’t break out his trademark moves, but none the less…
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I'm loving our pick ups
While there were some other players I would have liked to get, this has been a great haul.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Has Lefeged signed?
or Forbath?
Those are the last two guys I really want.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
I heard Lefeged did sign
with the Colts, according to WalterFootball.
Dang
Good signing by the Colts. He was a top-5 UDFA and we need safeties.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I liked him too
Every time he made a big hit, the common phrase should have been “you just got Lefegeded!!!!”
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Contrary to reports, West Virginia RB Noel Devine has not signed with Atlanta. Devine still is a free agent looking for work.
Come on….
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I have a feeling he'll go to the Ravens or the Cowboys.
Just a gut feeling
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
I know this has been talked about
But back to Leonard Davis.
What are the pros/cons and possible likelihood of this. Everyone has us as a possible suitor now, and I think he could come in at about 5-6 mil cap hit.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
Everyone keeps flip-flopping on Colon
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every team is positioning and looking at the new rules
JasonLaCanfora:
Story of the day is feeding frenzy on hold. GMs still studying new rules, focus on streamlining own roster and making cap space…
JasonColeYahoo:
Good chance ike Taylor returns to steelers.
by kk99 on Jul 26, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Say it is so!!
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Yeah boooooi!
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok checking in..
Which UDFA makes the team and comes in the clutch for us, a la Legursky?
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Harvey. Let Fox go and he’ll be the 5th Inside Linebacker.
by Austin Jackson on Jul 26, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Saunders, Clay, Harvey and Gray all have best shot
Out of those, I think Saunders and Harvey make the team with Clay and Gray on practice squad.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The two in best position to possibly get legit playing time...
At least in my opinion are Anthony Gray (NT) and Weslye Saunders (TE). Both could position themselves second string on the depth charts, meaning in the event of an unfortunate injury, either one could get real playing time if not start down the line.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 26, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing Spaeth is gone if we keep Saunders
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Like if Gray is a stud we get rid of Hoke.
by Austin Jackson on Jul 26, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I will go with Saunders
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
FA info
Report: Steelers trying to re-sign K Suisham
Post-Gazette tweets that the Steelers are trying to re-sign K Shaun Suisham. Other free-agents expected to return: TE Matt Spaeth, NT Chris Hoke and, if inexpensive, P Daniel Sepulveda and RB Mewelde Moore. Nobody is guaranteed, though. OT Willie Colon, a fourth-year vet now granted free-agency, may well go elsewhere.
I would let spaeth go. He’s not worth it.
by Austin Jackson on Jul 26, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree
They have a weird affliction that makes them want to keep Spaeth. If Saunders comes to camp and plays well in pre-season, Spaeth is gone.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
With Heath, DJ, and Saunders… I think we’ll be fine without Matt “Hands of Stone” Spaeth.
by Austin Jackson on Jul 26, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He probably gave the coaches some ruffies and took photoes of them with a goat
that’s the only possible explanation for Spaeth getting another contract.
Moore seems worthless at this point.
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by John Stephens on Jul 26, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
True
With Clay, Batch, Dwyer, and Redman backing up Mendenhall, there is no reason to keep Moore. Let him go somewhere else and let’s cultivate a new talent.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that backfield so much. Clay as a FB. Batch as 3rd down back. Dwyer and Redman backup RAC.
by Austin Jackson on Jul 26, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
No need for Moore with that lineup.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Goodell got something right:
Roger Goodell’s memo just came down. League will reimburse employee lost wages.
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"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
so who almost matches up to Redman's greatness?
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Out of the new guys
I think Harvey and Saunders will be competing for our blind love.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the WR from Miami of Ohio, Armand Robinson.
by Austin Jackson on Jul 26, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Marion Barber as a 3rd down back anyone?
I do not think he is washed up and he is the best RB at blitz pick up in the league. He’s a much better football player now than M. Moore ever was even in his prime. Thoughts?
by datruth4life2.0 on Jul 26, 2011 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
If he wants Vet minimum
Sure!
But for what he will sign with the 49ers or Lions, no thanks.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd down? He could still be a pretty good number 2 imo
I think someone will give him a decent deal though and a chance to be a split carries back. He isnt done yet. I always thought he would look great in B&G though
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol, Mike Brown announces Carson Palmers retirement
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Can you say with the first pick of the 2012 draft the Cincinatti Bengals select Andrew Luck
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Nope, itll take Mike Brown a few years to admit Dalton was a mistake
Thats if he turns out to be a bust. I think he has potential, but being in the AFCN really hurts his chances at success
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
They find a way to screw up and get 4-6. Watch Carolina have the first again.
My actual prediction is Washington. I think they blow it.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Carolina will improve. Im looking at a team like Denver for the #1 pick but it depends on what they do in FA. I wasnt impressed with their drafting. Hell, Oakland could take massive steps backwards as well and be a potential #1 overall player
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Carolina situation does not look good
if they lose their free agents they will look at another 2-14 record
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
I'd laugh if they picked Luck next year
and couldn’t get a 3rd round pick for Newton after he bombs this year. It would be priceless.
Exactly
I’ll be shocked if they win more than 4 games.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
John Beck could be the starter for the Skins
And if not him, it is probably Rex Grossman. They are going to cut Santana Moss and having noting else on offense really. I would not be surprised at all if Snyder and Shanahan tank this season to give Mike another Elway in Luck.
Not to say Luck is Elway (though I think that is a decent comparison for Luck’s ceiling) but it is the same situation as Cowher: they know they need a HOF caliber QB.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I was commuting home. Woops, even still.
I’m putting the Skins (tough division) down for the number 1 pick.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
what a fantastic organization
they turned down 2 #1s in an offer for 85 to teach him a lesson that nobody escapes the bengals.
Now they turn down any offers for Palmer who most likely would get them a #1 or at least a couple other picks and they decide to cut off their nose yet again.
If they were in horse racing they’d sooner shoot a prize colt than sell it to the highest bidder. How the hell does a retarded group like that own a team?
watch them lose joseph too
The Lions have joined the list of interested suitors for Bengals free-agent CB Jonathan Joseph, according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen. Mortensen tweeted, “I say watch out for Lions FA CB Jonathan Joseph” on Tuesday. Joseph is expected to sign a deal worth $8 million per season.
Dear lord
The Lions getting Joseph would make them a legit playoff team. If Fairley pans out, that D-Line will be what our LB’s are: the best in the league.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jul 26, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, give it a year or two, but the Lions are doing exciting things. Just need Stafford to stay healthy
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
You mentioned Stafford and Staying healthy in the same sentence
Good joke
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 26, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thats what I mean though. They need a good backup
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by Michael Hewitt on Jul 26, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This is why the Bengals will always lose
The Steelers cut disgruntled and criminal players to prove a point.
The Bengals close their grip and hold on for dear life.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 26, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
carson palmer was their best behaved player
but that brown is just a super stubborn, old school guy. it’s strange, you would think a guy willing to hold a guy to his contract on principle would also not continuosly hire ex-convicts on principle.
but brown is super cheap, they don’t want to have the team on the road as little as possible so they don’t have to pay for hotels. i wonder if they are only allowed to stay at motel 6, super 8 or knights inn.
so here is this super cheap NFL owner who wants loyalty and will hold you to your word but his team practices at a high school, doesn’t want to pay for hotels but is more than willing to hire any ex-convict available. talk about a double standard
Really makes you appreciate the Rooneys
We got it good.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jul 26, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
thursday or friday will be the crazy days.
maybe tomorrow, but i think the teams are unprepared to deal with trades, UFA, new CBA rules>>including rookie salary rules, signing your own FAs and trying to figure out which FAs might be a fit.
Well, just after i finished writing that Tavaris Jackson to Seattle, now Hasselback will probably go to TN. McNabb probably to MN.
Chris Polian: Start of camp after lockout “chaos”
Chris Polian says that the Colts are attempting to address the matters of restricted and unrestricted veteran free agents while negotiating with undrafted rookie free agents. "It’s organized chaos," Polian said. “We’re still continuing to get interpretations on signings, on calendars, eligibility rules, all those things.”
you know teams are nervous if they make a verbal with a market FA
what’s stopping a player from saying, “yea i will go with you” then on friday someone offers them $2mm more and they just sign with that team. not sure you can do anything about that until they actually sign.
it’s just like a verbal commitment in college, might not mean that much.
plax may go back to the giants
maybe the vick resurrection and publicity is making teams think “wow if we hire a high-profile convict maybe we can get a lot of good PR, b/c people love a great comeback story”
we all love these dramatic stories but not sure plaxico is reformed as much as vick, time will tell.
I found a more up to date salary cap than the one floating around earlier
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/02/steelers-2011-salary-cap-total-current-roster/
Likely ones that must change:
A. Smith $6.1M with $1.6M guaranteed
Starks $7.7M – but we couldnt just cut him without taking about a $6M dead cap hit I think
Randle El – $2.3M – gotta be a cheaper option for a fair catch machine
Roethlisberger – $15.8M I wonder if he’d like an early extension to restructure
Woodley – $10M will get new contract to reduce this
Battle – $1.3M – I’m thinking one of the rookies can fill his ST role for less.
tampa bay is trying to rip doug free from dallas
well, that is some of that $68mm they have and chargers signed takeo spikes away from 49ers. it’s hard to get guys out of CA once they have lived there.
Nnamdi has interest but with $16mm+ it’s a matter of cap space for most.
4 year deal done with Ike!
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/42086/source-ike-taylor-stays-with-steelers
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props to JasonColeYahoo
at 11am today he tweeted: Good chance ike Taylor returns to steelers.
Oh my f-ing God
Steelers sign
1. Clay
2. Gray
3. Harvey
4. Saunders
Plus they reup Ike.
This is better than some teams drafts.
Can we all say dynastay in the making.
(please excuse the spelling i just got home from working 6 days on the road and had 2 glasses of Scotch on the rocks, rounding off a great day!)
We had a great day
Top 5 day in the league. The Ravens and Giants did great too.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jul 27, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
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