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Steelers Rebound With Outstanding Performance In Second Preseason Game, Throttle Philadelphia, 24-14

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I was unable to watch the Pittsburgh Steelers' preseason opener last Friday night against the Washington Redskins. Thank God for that, as it seemed like not a whole lot went right for the six-time Super Bowl champions. This Thursday night though, the Steelers played their second preseason game against the Philadelphia Eagles in front of a nationally televised audience. I didn't watch too much of the second half, but I didn't need to. The first half showed me everything I needed to see and then some. Look out NFL. 

Some thoughts on the 24-14 victory by the Steelers, a score, by the way, that fails to illustrate just how convincingly Pittsburgh manhandled Philadelphia for the first 30-plus minutes Thursday night. 

  • Let's start with the running backs: Rashard Mendenhall and Isaac Redman both looked great. Mendy, fresh off a controversy-filled offseason, reminded fans that he's mighty fun to watch regardless of what thoughts he decides to share with the general public on Twitter. The 225 pound fourth-year back didn't exactly light up the boxscore. He finished with just 28 yards on 6 carries, and 2 receptions for 17 yards. Forget about the stats though --  the dude is in tip top shape and is set to again roar past the 1,000 yard marker in 2011 provided he stays healthy. He's lean, explosive, good at making the first guy miss (too often in the backfield or near the line of scrimmage) with his lateral nimble side steps, sufficiently tough and he possesses above-average vision when decided where the running late is materializing. He's a special player, no two ways about it. Redman meanwhile has cemented his status as someone who Mike Tomlin and Bruce Arians are going to rely on throughout the season. Mendenhall might hold up all season despite carrying the ball 324 times in '10, but he'll be more effective if Redman is able to take another 75-125 carries away from him this year. Redman, who gave fans a scare when he left momentarily with an ankle injury in the second quarter, returned to the delight of fans to finish off his night with 26 yards on 8 carries. Finally, Jonathan Dwyer looks like he's back in the running to make the 53-man roster. My guess is he will, but won't dress on gamedays too often provided Mendy, Redmna, and Mewelde Moore are healthy. 
  • Only three running backs? Sure, why not. I personally believe the Steelers will dress just three RBs on Sundays (four if you count David Johnson or some other TE as a 'FB' in certain formations) while retaining six wide receivers. Perhaps only five will dress some weeks, but I feel like Arnaz Battle will be retained. Emmanuel Sanders' health is a giant question mark for starters, but even if he does look like he'll be able to play at a reasonably high level this season, do the Steelers have any other WR that can play special teams? No. Kickoffs might have been neutered by the new rule changes, but guys will start running it out from the back of the endzone more frequently during the regular season. Battle's ST play will still mean something when Tomlin is making final cuts. He definitely helped his cause by showing that he can still be a weapon in the passing game. He finished with three receptions for 47 yards. 

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  • Before we go any further, how about a shout out to Mike Tomlin for the job he's done. Pardon my french, but we are so fuck&ng spoiled as Steelers fans its sick. This man has managed to strike the perfect balance between keeping everybody hungry, rewarding past performances of veterans, and fostering a competitive environment where not a soul feels complacent or unmotivated. Wow, he really is special. Yes, he has room to grow as a gameday coach. But there seriously is no better people-person patrolling the sidelines in the National Football League. I don't say that because of anything that happened Thursday night. But last night's game definitely can be filed as evidence about just how incredible Tomlin is at managing the ebbs and flows of group dynamics.
  • Hines Ward is going to be just fine. His 20-yard TD reception in the second quarter convinced me he's not lost a step and can still create sufficient separation to make plays, particularly when plays break down or Roethlisberger is playing Superman, which undoubtedly will occur more frequently than we might ideally like. Fantasy sleeper, particularly early in the season when he's historically been solid and while Roethlisberger gets comfortable with play makers he's far less accustomed to throwing to. 
  • Jerricho Cotchery, welcome to the family baby! Impressive stuff. Been with the team for less than a week? No problem. I wondered if Cotchery would even play in Thursday night's game. He not only suited up, but managed to lead the team in receiving yards with 49 on two catches, one of which picked up a fresh set of downs on a 3rd and 20-plus while the other found pay dirt. 
  • Antonio Brown looks great and I couldn't be more excited for him or what his contributions could mean for the team. The 2010 sixth round draft pick, who I brazenly labeled as the No. 10 Draft Success of the Kevin Colbert Era, hauled in a 29-yard TD on the Steelers opening drive. The score came against Asante Samuel thanks to Dominique Rodgers Cromartie's pathetic attempt at a corner blitz -- he froze up a few feet shy of Big Ben instead of going after him and forcing a quick throw. Samuel, expecting an intermediate route because of the blitz, planted about 15 yards down the field in anticipation of a hitch route. Doing so allowed Brown to get behind him for the easy score, but Samuel's not really to blame. (As a side note, it's funny to me how so many folks want to bash Bryant McFadden, citing guys like DRC as more talented options at the ever-important CB position. Uhh, no thanks. I'll take a guy with some toughness who doesn't allow that kind of crap to happen because he's inherently not a physical football player. No toughness, no role on Dick LeBeau's defense.) Back to Brown real quick -- believe me, no one is more excited to see him thrive than I am, but at least one person said in the open thread tonight that they thought Brown was going to have a better fantasy season than Ward. Maybe if Ward gets injured. But assuming he doesn't, Ward's going to put up something along the lines of 75 catches for 900 yards and 6 TDs. Antonio Brown ready to surpass those numbers? Not yet. Thankfully though it looks like he has that type of potential in him sooner rather than later.
  • I'm going to comment on the offensive line over the weekend, but a quick update on the injuries suffered by Jonathan Scott and Marcus Gilbert. Thankfully both appear to have hyper-extended their knees and avoided dreaded ligament damage. We'll need to keep an eye on both, particularly Scott who's expected to start at left tackle, but for now, it doesn't appear as if either was injured too severely.  Even though the injury situation doesn't appear to be dire, might Max Starks be getting a call this weekend? Could be. 
  • How trim does Tony Hills look? Starting at right guard, Hills almost looked out of awkwardly out of position in the interior of the Steelers' offensive line Thursday night. Aren't guards supposed to be stocky? Hills looks tall and lean. But what can you say? He held his own yet again and appears to be the front runner to start at RG assuming injuries don't force him back to one of the two tackle positions.
  • Ramon Foster certainly didn't do himself any favors in preseason game No. 2. Looked pretty suspect from what I saw. Same might be said of Chris Scott
  • While we're on the subject of the offensive line, let me quickly mention that I continue to be wowed by Maurkice Pouncey's athleticism. I'm not technician really of what Pouncey does well at the point of attack in the trenches, but it's amazing to watch him quickly get to the next level and then finish off plays down the field. The guy is fast. He's paid to be mean and strong, but his athleticism, quick burst and willingness to seek contact down the field is a big part of why he'll be so dominant in the early stages of his professional career. 
  • Good to see Willie Colon back in the fold. Loving the 'locks by the way.
  • Was it just me or was anybody else wondering why Isaac Redman was being worked so hard in the second quarter? No need to 'take a look' at what they've got in the undrafted free agent from Bowie State. He's proven himself by now, and he best be fresh and healthy for the '11 season in order to diversify the Steelers running game and spell Mendenhall more frequently over the course of a grueling regular season this fall and winter. Thankfully the injury he sustained was inconsequential, but I'm not a big fan of seeing him be responsible for milking the clock on meaningless plays this preseason. 
  • Was that a Keenan Lewis sighting? Nice pick of Michael Vick. That wasn't Lewis' only nice play though. He looks like he may be ready to be a part of the rotation on Dick LeBeau's defense finally. 
  • Did anyone make sure that Dan Rooney or some other senior denizen of the Steelers' front office didn't drop dead when they saw Troy Polamalu channel Ed Reed during his long interception return? Yikes. Please keep running during the regular season, Troy. Please slide like Peyton Manning in the preseason. Capiche? 
  • Lord help us if we are talking about him during the regular season, but let's get in our commentary while we can: After looking abysmal out of the gate, Byron Leftwich looked competent enough after getting his feet underneath him. Yes, his pocket presence seems mind-bogglingly poor, but I think we're kinda spoiled by Big Ben. Make no mistake about it, Leftwich can't survive and thrive unless he has a good protection, but the man can still make the tough throws. He threaded the needle on both of Cotchery's two receptions. 
  • Is Donovan Warren now a legitimate part of the conversation as to who rounds out the depth chart at cornerback? He certainly stated his case to be given a good, hard look. Yes, Bryant McFadden was out, but I found it interesting nonetheless that Warren got the starting nod over Lewis or even William Gay
  • Back to Polamalu real quick: on his interception, a crazy play where Vick scrambled moments after the snap only to heave an ill-advised ball down the middle of the field deep, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were too busy (A) gushing about Polamalu's knack for being in the right place at the right time and (B) ranting about his decision not to slide that they totally failed to mention that somebody was responsible for timing his jump personally and deflecting the pass so that No. 43 could snare the pick. That player? LaMarr Woodley. I may have gone on record for well over a year about how it might not be wise to extend Woodley to a long-term deal, but it wasn't because I didn't think he could ball and contribute in 2011-2013. I'm more concerned about when he's on the wrong side of 30 and can't make those types of plays anymore. But anyway, I was super impressed by the athletic display there -- too bad I didn't get to see his perfectly timed jump from a better angle. 
  • A business partner asked me who the Steelers starting kicker would be for 2011. I said Shaun Suisham. Then I realized that some guy named Swayze Waters was either hitting a screamer that was easily blocked, or sealing his fate in the National Football League with a 27-yard miss in the fourth quarter. Apparently Suisham has been 'ill' (Tomlin's words, not mine) this past week.  I never thought I'd say it, but please get your butt back in uniform Shaun. 
  • James Harrison looked just fine, but he's still working his way back from two offseason back surgeries. According to his FB page this evening, he was set to get some 6 inch acupuncture needles jammed in him, presumably to help relieve some sort of pain. He'll be just fine, but he's got a ways to go still. He's the best player on the Steelers defense, or at least he has been the past three years, but he definitely is not looking like an unstoppable wrecking ball just yet. He'll get there. 
  • News flash. Heath Miller's good at football. Never much flash, but man, if there was one guy who I'd trust with my life to make a tough catch with his hands in traffic and then hold on to the ball while absorbing hits from multiple defenders, it would be No. 83. So steady. 
  • I gotta end somewhere, so how about with these two open-ended questions that I plan to explore and write about: is there any team in the NFL that has as many guys as the Steelers who have played their entire careers with one team? I'm too tired to start counting, but I seriously doubt there is. On defense that is. Secondly, is the kickoff rule change going to prove to be one huge blessing in disguise for the Steelers? Ddon't be sad that, as fans, we'll be treated to a bit less entertainment because of the new kickoff rule. We're not going to miss out on Josh Cribbs' electrifying run backs or Devin Hester's game changing play making. We might lose out on a few yards of field position on offense, but we're also going to force opposing teams to go 80 yards on Dick LeBeau's unit. Pretty much every time. Good luck with that!!!
More Friday. Y'all enjoy your weekends. Yes, it's the preseason, but even if it's meaningless, Thursday night should have reminded you that the Steelers are absolutely stacked and perfectly positioned to whoop some serious ass in 2011. Get excited, this team is going to be fun to watch this season. 

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steelers were looking pretty damn fine...

as a lineman myself, i was watching them pretty closely. I only started watching in the second quarter, but the inside linemen didn’t look amazing, especially foster and legursky both looking shaky. Excited about the running game and the receivers though…

by c63tho on Aug 19, 2011 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Good write up!

I agree about the Steelers that have played their whole careers with our team, but I’ll take it one step further…How many big free agent pick ups start on the Steelers? Farrior, Moore…anyone else. Not only are we spoiled with coach and players, we have the greatest owners and front office, period!

by jbnysteelerfan on Aug 19, 2011 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

thanks

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by Michael Bean on Aug 19, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cotchery

Bettis

Flozell

Duce Staley

Charlie Batch

Leftwich

Bobby Ingram (although, I don’t think he had any starts when he was here)

Ryan Clark

I’m sure there’s more, but I can’t think of them off the top of my head…

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by Steel Spike on Aug 19, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farrior wasnt considered a “big” signing at the time. Definatly was in hindsight.

by Frozen Fan on Aug 21, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wrote about guys playing their whole careers with the Steelers last year for Yahoo.

The numbers were staggering but I don’t have the link to the article handy at the moment. It was a lot of fun to do the research, too, so maybe I’ll just let you do it too?

Nah, here’s the link :)

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/7683384/steelers_secret_to_success_too_obvious.html?cat=9

by Mike Frazer on Aug 19, 2011 8:07 AM EDT reply actions  

nice

I’ll check that out. Crashing for now, but definitely curious. It’s getting crazy the stability this team has had this past half decade.

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by Michael Bean on Aug 19, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Redman, who gave fans a scare when he left momentarily with an ankle injury in the second quarter

I heard down the grape vine that he was not actually injured. Someone was having a heart attack in the stands and he ran up and saved their life before returning to the field.

"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

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by Michael Bean on Aug 19, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Undoubtedly true.

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Aug 19, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I admit it, I took that seriously until the “before returning to the field” part.

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was so he could "look" human

and the lifesaving thing was a happy coicedence.

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by SNW on Aug 19, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

wide receivers

I wish the Pats could draft WR’s like you guys do. Yeah Sweed was a bust but Wallace and Antonio Brown are great finds.
Week 8 in your house should be a doozy.

by munchkin on Aug 19, 2011 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

ugh

Thanks for stopping by.

Sadly though, I can envision the Steelers being dominant all year until looking wholly impotent against you guys. Would love to be wrong this year :)

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by Michael Bean on Aug 19, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

We'll give you WR drafting tips if you give us CB ones!

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by LV Steelers Fan on Aug 19, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

Of course, that might mean they had even better WRs against our CBs…

by gostevego on Aug 19, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

drafting?

Hank Poteat won a Super Bowl in New England.

by buddytoledo on Aug 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Must Temper My Expectations...

It is only preseason…

Damn, they looked fine.

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by SubLime on Aug 19, 2011 8:13 AM EDT reply actions  

seriously

But why? No need to really temper. This team is stacked. I see no way we don’t win 10 games and aren’t in hunt. Chance to be REAL good beyond that too.

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by Michael Bean on Aug 19, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've got to go with temper...

Irrationally, I believe that there is some sort of goofy, attenuated, inverse correlation between my expectations and the team’s fortunes in any given season.

DAMN, they looked fine.

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by SubLime on Aug 19, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don't think 2009

could be lurking for us?

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Aug 19, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

I think we have SIGNIFICANTLY better depth at S now. The only position I don’t have a comfortable replacement is, is OLB. Worilds still needs some time.

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know

but that season has me scarred. After going 6-2 I didnt think there was any way we’d miss the playoffs with the schedule we had.

This year is similar, although the front end of the schedule isn’t as hard, the back end is just as easy as 2009.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Aug 19, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean, but depth is what killed us that year. Troy went down and we replaced him with a slow/bad Tyrone Carter. Then Timmons got a high ankle sprain and he was never 100% that year. Then Aaron Smith went out and we replaced him with a round-robin of floozies.

This year, we’ve got Mundy and Allen who I feel comfortable subbing in at Safety in a pinch. I love how good Foote has been this preseason and Sly is coming along really well. Now, if Aaron goes out we know we’ve got starter material in Ziggy. I’m very comfortable on defense, except OLB depth.

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Timmons had two bad ankles at the same time, IIRC

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by Steel Spike on Aug 19, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great write up by the way

I think a lot of people are automatically cutting Warren for Cortez, just because Cortez was our 4th round pick. But as I see it, Sweed is no different in this preseason than what has happened with Cortez. He has sat out both games and been on the sideline for the majority of practice. I really don’t think his roster spot is a sure thing. Thad Gibson can attest to that much.

I was one of the people who said Brown would be a better fantasy player than Ward. I do not think Ward will have more yards, especially not 900. I think he will be in the range of 600. But thinking about it, he will probably have more TDs than Brown. So he probably will be the better fantasy player.

No talk about Dixon? I thought he looked great yesterday. I was dumbfounded by his pocket presence and the fact that he stayed in there and made passes even under pressure. Did he make a huge jump from last week or was it just a fluke? IDK

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

thanks

IDK about Dixon, honestly had shut it off by then. Glad to see he did well though. Like the kid even if he’s not going to be more than a backup in this league.

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by Michael Bean on Aug 19, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Warren has to be the front-runner now

If the decision had to be made today, I think you have to go with Warren, and hold your breath while you put Allen on the PS. I just loved the way he was always around the ball. He looked like he belonged with the 1s just from an energy standpoint.

The drawback of having a really deep, competitive team is sometimes you have to gamble with project draft picks – like Cortez Allen – because they’re really aren’t very many spots available, and if you want him to develop, he’s gonna have to do it from the PS.

Gibson is more ready to play now than Allen is, though, so (again assuming this has to be made today, which it does not) I think there’s less chance of someone taking Allen for their 53 than there was for Gibson last year.

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many CB's will they keep?

There might not be enough room for Cortez Allen or Donovan Warren on the 53-man roster. The 5 CB’s likely to make the roster are Ike, McFadden, Gay, Brown, and Lewis. If the Steelers keep only 6 CB’s, that leaves only 1 CB slot left.

I previously thought Butler and Allen would battle for that last CB slot, but Warren has now put himself in the conversation with his solid performance last night. So now it might be Butler, Allen and Warren fighting for that 1 last slot. However, the Steelers could keep 2 of those guys and suprisingly cut a veteran like McFadden or Gay.

Or they could also go with 7 CB’s. However, this would mean cutting a roster spot from another position. That would involve making some tough choices, such as: going with only 6 D-linemen and cutting McLendon; or going with only 7 LB’s and cutting Carter; or going with only 3 RB’s and cutting Dwyer; or going with only 2 TE’s and using an O-lineman as a blocking TE on certain plays.

In any event, it will be interesting to see how the roster rounds out over the next couple of weeks.

by jmn501 on Aug 19, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We should cut Gay and keep Warren

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by Han on Aug 19, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to cut Gay

wait that came out wrong

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Aug 19, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we should cut Gay and keep Allen and Warren. Warren/Lewis can do exactly what Gay can do and possibly better and then we can keep our potential #1 corner, Cortez Allen

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by seton hall and steelers on Aug 19, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It might be a possibility, who knows.

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fwiw, really liked how Keenan played yesterday

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 19, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brown vs. Ward

Dissecting the chances of either of them could be done for hours, with the same conclusions reached. I’m not sure either will be head and shoulders above the other. In fact, I’m not sure we couldn’t make the argument the Steelers have two deep threats (Wallace and Brown) and two possession guys (Ward and Sanders) and an intermediate guy (Cotchery). I don’t feel any of them are legit No. 1 guys at this point – definition of a No. 1 being someone who can run all routes at all distances of the field (Wallace isn’t that receiver yet).

Oddly enough, I think if anyone is the closest to that from what I’ve seen, it’s Cotchery.

Doesn’t mean he’s going to see more passes, but my point is I’m not sure if this just isn’t a team that has five WRs with 40+ catches and 4 TDs each on average.

Last night, I saw balance. I saw each offensive skill player catch a pass, and gain yards. I saw a level-headed QB go through his checkdowns like an aged veteran (wow, he’s old now).

Hell, based on last night, I’d say Roethlisberger is your sleeper Fantasy player. If that commitment to balance continues, we’ll have match-up advantages in any sub package our opponents throw out, and Roethlisberger can be the same kind of assassin-like QB that we saw in Aaron Rodgers last year.

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amen

I think, if our OL can stay healthy, with the balance we have at the skill positions, we could be a pretty nasty offense.

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I agree. The receivers all have such value, plus Rashard’s good hands and Heath’s reliability you’re going to see Ben get over 4000 yards but each receiver will see good numbers, but none will be amazing.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 19, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still think Wallace turns in a great year

70 recs, 1200 yards, 8 TDs

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

Did you see how open he was on the deep ball. Damn.

by SteelerBuddha on Aug 19, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

With the depth that we have, teams cannot concentrate solely on him. We have a couple more burners (Brown and Sanders) and also Hines and and Cotchery and also reliable hands Heath.

by Allen F on Aug 20, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am getting excited!

"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get your facts straight

The score came against Asante Samuel thanks to Dominique Rodgers Cromartie’s pathetic attempt at a corner blitz — he froze up a few feet shy of Big Ben instead of going after him and forcing a quick throw. Samuel, expecting an intermediate route because of the blitz, planted about 15 yards down the field in anticipation of a hitch route. Doing so allowed Brown to get behind him for the easy score, but Samuel’s not really to blame. (As a side note, it’s funny to me how so many folks want to bash Bryant McFadden, citing guys like DRC as more talented options at the ever-important CB position. Uhh, no thanks. I’ll take a guy with some toughness who doesn’t allow that kind of crap to happen because he’s inherently not a physical football player. No toughness, no role on Dick LeBeau’s defense.)

DRC blitzed from Big Ben’s left while Nate Allen was the Safety that pulled up while blitzing from the right side which allowed Brown to get behind Asante. Next time check your facts before bashing someones toughness.

by Phuckin A on Aug 19, 2011 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

You mad bro?

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Him calling out DRC’s toughness goes way beyond one play in a preseason game. DRC still came nowhere near the passer (our undrafted CB sacked Vick, by the way), and Super Bowl XLIII is still fresh in our minds, when Santonio laid tire tracks all over DRC en route to the MVP trophy.

While Mike’s gonna call out DRC, I’m calling out Samuel. A poor read in man coverage with no help over the top, he can’t afford to gamble on the interception, which is what he did. Brown didn’t put a move on him or anything, he just read one-on-one with no safety help. A simple pitch-and-catch for those two.

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely correct

He has done it quite a bit, Ben is getting much better at his reads and is making much better decisions with the ball his last couple seasons, looks on pace to take that up another notch this year (fingers crossed).

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's the good part!

Ben’s throwing to where the receiver is going, so Brown deserves the credit as much as Ben.

They both saw a S and CB blitz on opposite sides. Brown saw Samuel inch in a little, indicating man coverage, and with no safety over the top, the right read is the go route. Brown didn’t even put a move on it, and didn’t have to.

SECOND YEAR PLAYER!!!! LOVE IT!!!

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think Brown is gonna shine this year

Ben really has a butt load of tools now, he has outlets everywhere that can perform, I see a really balanced, really powerful offense this year.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

One bad apple spoils the bunch

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very aggressive user name...

 Quite Philly of you.

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by SubLime on Aug 19, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

calm down there

angry pants. Neither one of them got near Ben and Asante made a huge mistake. Don’t bring your anger issues in here and get all uppity.

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by stillergorillar on Aug 19, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gushing over Polamalu

as they should be. You forgot to mention that he nearly had 3 interceptions. While you were gushing over the fact that Woodley tipped a ball to him, Timmons did the same thing earlier in the game…only away from him that easy should have been picked.

by Josh Evans on Aug 19, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

He looked inhuman again…I’m going to miss that when he inevitably retires…that streak of hair moving at a speed no one else on the field is moving, radar locked in on the ball, playing three steps ahead of everyone else, like a grand master chess player…

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

This gets a rectum

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
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by Steel Spike on Aug 19, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rectum

damn near killed ’em

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by WVPiratesfan on Aug 20, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Every time!

http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi535756825/

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by Steel Spike on Aug 20, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does this make

Troy the Irresistible Force and Redman the Immovable Object? Good thing they’re on the same team…

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by Rebecca Rollett on Aug 19, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

When healthy

Troy is the most dynamic defensive player I have seen in all the years I have been watching football! His speed is unmatched and he makes plays that no one else can. Stay healthy Troy!

by steeler fever on Aug 19, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deceptive speed

Troy has been clocked as low as a 4.33 up to a 4.51 (Mike Wallace has been clocked from 4.28 to 4.39) and we know how fast he is), but when Troy sees something happening on the field, no one in the league covers distance faster – He has game speed that can’t be measured and his instincts are ridiculous, Troy has another gear with the ball is in play – love to see him healthy.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I don’t care about the clock when it comes to measuring his speed. Watch the AFC Championship game at Denver back, and watch the play where Tatum Bell (one of the fastest in the game that year) caught a screen pass with nothing but green in front of him. Troy came from the other side of the field to tackle him for like a one yard gain, and I swear his feet weren’t even on the ground.

Probably the most amazing football play I’ve ever seen.

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The season opener back in 2008

when he came from his safety spot and stopped CJ2K in the backfield for a 2 yard loss

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by WVPiratesfan on Aug 19, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I NEED A HIGHLIGHT REEL

BTW – Is there anyone better at catching un-catchable balls? The guy is a monster, a quiet, humble, softspoken, god fearing MONSTER!

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I go back to the 2008 season opener

when he intercepted Kerry Collins when Kenny Britt pushed him and still was able to snag it one handed

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by WVPiratesfan on Aug 19, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I go to the INT against the Chargers

scooped the ball up in one of the most memorable picks of all time

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Aug 19, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also an awe inspiring play

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by WVPiratesfan on Aug 20, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Larry Fitzgerald

Is better at catching the impossible but Troy probably the best defensive player to do it.

by Steel34D on Aug 21, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. Bean -

Cribbs said he is going to return them all anyway, he is pissed about the change.

I am very impressed with a lot of folks from last night, definitely think that Battle secured himself a spot last night, but there was a lot of competition for that 6th spot – everyone was trying to get a catch last night!

Warren looked good, Lewis looked good, Brown needs some work, but he was in on the action too – I am glad to see the young bucks stepping up at corner. Mundy looked good last night, and Troy looked to be in mid season forum.

Overall, very happy with what I saw – I think the O and D lines will start to gel a bit more in the next few weeks.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing about Kickoffs,

Its really gonna be nice if we can have our opponent start every drive at the 20!! My only question is, can we kick it deep enough?? Last week i thought i saw a few kicks still not make it to the endzone, Waters was kicking it deep. But will he be on our roster?

by colorado steelhead on Aug 19, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Waters is gone...

And, he knew it as he walked off the field after the missed chip shot — it was clear in his face.

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by SubLime on Aug 19, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee

by stillergorillar on Aug 19, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m alright with people bringing it out.

You will see a lot more starts behind the 20 if they do. Yes they will break some, but more often they will cost themselves free yards.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 19, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Saunders

I didn’t see much of Saunders last night. Considering the weakness of the O-line, I wonder if Gilmore may not have more of an inside track on the 3rd TE position with Saunders going to the PS.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 19, 2011 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Saunders is the one project player

I don’t see making it to the PS. I don’t know if he’d clear waivers.

I didn’t see him block at all yesterday, I might have missed it though.

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it possible they’re hiding him on purpose? No one drafted him, it stands to reason no team would want to put him on their 53, considering no one chose him. If they had a reason to, i.e. game film, then maybe they would.

That’s probably not the smartest way to put a team together, but “Happy” seems to be playing more often…maybe that’s simply because he’s outplaying Saunders in practice, but Saunders seems to have more potential than the time he’s getting in live games merits.

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy

What an obvious nickname. I like it.

They might be trying to hide him. I think losing so many players off the PS last year may have traumatized the FO to a certain extent.

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"It is wonderful to feel the grandness of Canada in the raw, not because she is Canada but because she's something sublime that you were born into, some great rugged power that you are a part of." Emily Carr (artist)

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 19, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the price you pay for having an outstanding scouting department. We’re gonna let go of some good young WRs too. There will be more than a few guys on the PS who could suit up for a lot of other teams

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

too bad we can't package up a couple

and at least get a draft choice out of them.

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"It is wonderful to feel the grandness of Canada in the raw, not because she is Canada but because she's something sublime that you were born into, some great rugged power that you are a part of." Emily Carr (artist)

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 19, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin

by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they have seen enough to know he won’t be a good blocker this season.

If that is the case then he is getting PS squad minutes, getting him game time late while players you will be using get ready for the season with the earlier minutes.

I expect them to PS Saunders and get him stronger and work on blocking and reading the defense so he can play the position and not just run and catch.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 19, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

missed part of game

I missed parts of the 3rd quarter and the last minute of the game. A thunder storm killed our power and it took a few minutes for the converter (or what ever that box is) to reset and then the PVR stopped recording when the game ran over whatever the NFL network had advertised.

"A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love in a canoe" Pierre Burton (historian)

"It is wonderful to feel the grandness of Canada in the raw, not because she is Canada but because she's something sublime that you were born into, some great rugged power that you are a part of." Emily Carr (artist)

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 19, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

great write-up, Bean

man, it’s good to be back. i’ve missed you all…

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by agentorange on Aug 19, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

The kid’s name is either Troy or Hines, right? =)

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha...

i tried to do that. i was even thinking of going with Rooney, but the wife was not buying it. at least my oldest is a “jack” in honor of lambert and ham.

this one is Quinton, and he’s happy and healthy, so that’s what matters.

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by agentorange on Aug 19, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's really, really good to see Dwyer coming into his own

It’s just one game so I wouldn’t put too much stock into it, but it is reassuring to see him do well

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 19, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

That move he put around the edge

Was impressive. Showed a great burst of speed

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the kid looks like the polar opposite of last year

Certainly provides some hope for him down the year

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 19, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im so glad you guys beat the shit outta us.

It was gonna happen sooner or later, those kind of losses or inevitable. They are humbling and force a unit to work harder and mesh together. I hope Vick locks himself in the film room until 9/11 (moment of silence please) and corrects his STUPID mistakes.

As for our Safties and LB’s…….sigh

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Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....

by theaction on Aug 19, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

We got that beating 1st week. ;)

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fairness in Information Act

In the regular season, Vick wouldn’t have forced those throws, he would have run. While he didn’t look very good, it seemed to me he had a “do not run, ever” rule placed on him.

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he isn’t smart enough to not run in the preseason, then he should have the order on him.

I think the problem is our defense is one you have to game plan for. Vick has played us all of twice in his career, and teams aren’t game planning for preseason games. With LeBeau throwing more of our defense out there last night the Eagles were found unprepared and overmatched.

If that was a regular season game they would have spent all week going over our defense, and Vick would have done better.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 19, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

I agree in the sense it’s a complicated defense, but I didn’t see anything overly elaborate. The basic fire blitz, a corner blitz, lots of zone, straight rush from the line, but all similar stuff they say Baltimore do last week.

I don’t think they’re literally saying Vick isn’t allowed to run, but I think they are saying “it’s the preseason, you can force a throw if you have to, work on that part of your game because we don’t want you taking hits you don’t have to take.”

I’m speculating, obviously, but the Vick I’ve seen would have run on a few of those interceptions. They would have been incredible throws, not ones he’s able to really make.

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really think

LeBeau ‘threw the defense out there’? I highly doubt that any of these coordinators give anything away in a preseason game

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Aug 19, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was much less vanilla than week 1, we blitzed more and actually ran some zone, so yeah, it was our defense.

At least it looked it to me.

We ran a heck of a lot of cover two, but the starters seemed to do more of the normal stuff.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 19, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blitzing Ryan Clark isn't very vanilla

He opened book up a little bit, but not enough to really show anything impressive.

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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Aug 19, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reply Fail

Don’t run but make the tackle like he did against Troy are dissimilar, smart enough wise.
But yes, I also thought he would have ran in a few situations he passed instead last night.

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by SNW on Aug 19, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would change a lot

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 19, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don

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by SNW on Aug 19, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 things that i wanted to bring up..

Is the “in the grasp” rule going to affect BB all season? In both preseason games, he has thrown a ball, neither was complete , but the play was called dead. If those were competions, it would take away a big part of what makes Ben special.

Pouncey- the guy is a specimen- i noticed on a pass play as he was wainting for someone to block, he doesnt even look like a lineman, the guy looks like a big linebacker.

by indianasteelers on Aug 19, 2011 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

In the grasp sucks!!!

It seems like another rule put in place to hurt the Steelers! No one else comes close to being able to make positive plays when in the grasp like Ben does. How often does Ben go from being in the grasp to throwing the guy off and being not in the grasp? It does seem like Ben is treated differently by the refs. I don’t know if they just don’t like him or what? Ben isn’t down until his knee hits the ground or you have three defensive linemen with their “grasp” on him!!! Perhaps the rule change will cause Ben to change his way of play and get rid of the ball more often rather than count on his ability to shed tacklers and continue the play? Maybe this would be a positive for the Steelers but it sure is fun to watch Big Ben throw off 300lb guys.

by steeler fever on Aug 19, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like that they call it quick in the pre-season

pointless to get a QB hurt in these games extending the play. It would be even nicer if they would call a blatant late hit on BB. It was so bad that even he complained about it. The dude ran an additional 5 yards and just hit him long after a dump off pass.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

the hit he took to the legs last night was ridiculous. The defender blatantly threw a shoulder to his thighs well after the ball was gone.
  I guess we should be used to this by now, but it still pisses me off when Ben gets the crap knocked out of him and gets no call.

by indianasteelers on Aug 19, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was really surprised that wasn't a flag

That was pretty bush league. The throw was well out of his hand, and he lunged at his legs.

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ben

also got hit after the whistle for in the grasp, and no flag was thrown. If that isn’t defeating the purpose of the whole in the grasp rule, I don’t know what is.

by DG Lewis on Aug 19, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 plays in

I just sat down to watch the game. (Got it on the DVR.) I’m 2 plays into our opening drive and I’ve watched Babin drop his knee on Mendy’s head and some jagoff slobber all over Ben’s leg. I’m thinking the Eagles got whupped by karma.

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by Varmint on Aug 20, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

No showboating!!!

Steelers looked great last night! One thing I was not impressed with was when Antonio and Hines were dancing after their touchdowns and when Keenan Lewis slow ran his interception back after he was down. I will give HInes the one dance in the preseason since he won dancing with the stars. But dancing and showboating is unprofessional and is poor sportsmanship and shouldn’t be tolerated by the Steelers! I have been proud of the Steelers in the past because they haven’t done much of this. I hope what I saw last night in this regard is not a trend of the future! Go Steelers!!!

by steeler fever on Aug 19, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Slow run

I didn’t like that as well though. I forgave Hines his tribute to his dancing partner. I never paid a lot of attention to Brown’s celebrations.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 19, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Noticed this too

Ward has done this before to the Eagles-see 2004 when he hurdled his way into the end zone on a reverse then mocked T.O.‘s “Eagle” dance. My guess is that it was a way of insulting the alleged “Dream Team”. Antonio Brown does celebrate a little too much sometimes as does Mike Wallace, but it’s just the way these guys get fired up. Tomlin, Arians, and Montgonery will keep it under control. Lewis probably heard it from LeBeau already, but maybe he was slow running due to the fact it was preseason and was trying to avoid injuries-I can’t say for sure because I missed that part of the game.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Aug 19, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

I don’t really care. It doesn’t affect the team at all.

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

They the WR's weren't showing anybody up and were having some fun

Gawd – you have to do something to give the fans some entertainment in the pre-season. They did have to sit through that second half.

I will happily see them constantly dancing this year, because that would mean they were constantly scoring.

As for the Lewis run back, I think he started running when he didn’t realize he was down and then just continued. Who knows where that came from. Maybe he just got yelled at this week for not finishing a play off after an INT in practice. Either way – I don’t see it as a big deal at all.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly my thinking

"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Aug 19, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly.

Just think how everybody (including the coaches) would be yelling at him if there was the least hint that he might not have been ruled down and he hadn’t run. He was just practicing finishing a play : )

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by Rebecca Rollett on Aug 19, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The voice of reason

That’s what I was taught…

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 20, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reason number 783,

that I love Heath Miller, big catch, drop the ball, head back to the huddle for more work.
He is a great Steeler.

by indianasteelers on Aug 19, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impossible to argue against.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed it for you.

man my reply is way fail today.

If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.

by SNW on Aug 19, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big catch, run over a DB/LB or three, drop the ball, head back to the huddle for more work.

If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.

by SNW on Aug 19, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think keenan's play was smart

if he didn’t hear a whistle, he should run it all the way in just in case. if he didn’t hustle down there and then realized the ref didn’t blow the whistle we’d be knocking him for being bone-headed.

by syrsteelerfan on Aug 19, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta Agree

Dancing does not befit us. Just kick their ass and hand the ref the ball.

by Allen F on Aug 20, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice write-up Michael.

Just a couple of comments.

First: I think Redman probably asked Tomlin to leave him in the game. Redman is a guy who likes to carry the ball a lot and get into a groove. But I agree you don’t want to lose #33 in the preseason.

Second: I don’t see that Leftwich has anything to prove to anyone. He’s a proven pro QB with a powerful, accurate arm and better ability to extend plays than many people give him credit for. I think we’re very fortunate to have him backing up Ben.

Meanwhile, keep ’em flying!

by Billy52 on Aug 19, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Did I miss Batch last night or was he off?

Second: Dixon got a lot of time last night, are we grooming for a trade? He did look pretty sharp last night once he got rolling.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't be shocked at all if we traded Dixon

He doesn’t want to stay as a backup, although that’s about all he’d get on the market too.

Bradshaw was dropping hints from the booth that trading him might be a good idea for the team.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bradshaw thought we could get something for him.

I don’t think that’s the case.

Terry seemed a little loose in the booth even for him, I just wonder if the “how much coffee have you had?” question wasn’t censored for TV.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 19, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure we could get anything for him either.

But the only way we could is by giving him reps in the pre-season like we did last night. I thought he looked good on some intermediate routes, but he was inaccurate as hell on the deep ball. He should have had at least 1 TD if not more.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bradshaw

He was getting a bit odd. Either the coffee is spiked or Terry has some other issue we don’t know about.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 19, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

"was getting"

implies that he isn’t already. I like him, Hall of Famer and a legend. But let’s not pretend he hasn’t always been a bit “eccentric”.

But I agree with you on the main point. Maybe not the best dude to sit in front of a microphone for extended periods of time.

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by lottwasgangsta on Aug 22, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

knowing terry, he was probably spiking the coffee

by klompus on Aug 20, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We put a 5th round tender on him

And no one took it. He wants out, and I’m not sure if the Steelers gave him permission to seek a trade, but I think the lockout denied him the chance to compete anywhere else.

Here’s a radical thought though…we trade Dixon for a fifth, and throw a 6th out in the supplemental draft on Monday for Pryor…

by Neal Coolong on Aug 19, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie didn't play

Which is why it seems that the Steelers might have been giving Dixon a chance to shine sufficiently that another team would be interested…

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by Rebecca Rollett on Aug 19, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did Warren get the start over Lewis?

K. Lewis defended Vicks first pass attempt deep to Jackson, so I’m not following that one.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I dunno about that one either. Lewis and Warren were the starting CBs from what I saw.

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

and from what I saw Lewis looked pretty damned good

and Warren looked good too. Yeah! A legit option to dropping Gay so we can keep Cortez the project. I wasn’t expecting much from Brown last night at CB, but I was hoping that somebody, ANYBODY would step up and at least push Gay from the rotation. Turns out there were 2 at least that clearly out played him last night.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

outplayed Gay at least

a pretty low bar to hurdle if ever there was.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Removing that low Hurdle

Could make us a LOT better though.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

please God let it be so...

At least if we have a new face there’s a chance they can keep from being burned every play. With Gay, we know what we have – not much.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need to rewatch the secondary from last night. I think I was so focused on the line that I missed a lot. I thought Lewis had a bad game, but everyone disagrees. So clearly I missed something.

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw at least a couple of pass defensed by Lewis along with the pick.

The fact that he was stride for stride with Jackson on the first play made me a happy man.

As for Gay – the only time I recall seeing him was just after Buck said “wide open receiver in the secondary”. Gay was giving his guy about an 8 yard cushion down field. I could have just not noticed him later though.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone pointed this out yet

But from what I saw on the written play-by-play on NFL.com, it looked as if Arians called a really, really good game. Can’t believe I just typed those words but it seemed to be a relatively balanced night in terms of play calls.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Aug 19, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

BA

Did he actually use the screen pass in the first half? I think there were more last night than last season. No drops and all went for good yardage. At least three backs got involved. Maybe BA has a few new wrinkles this year. Steelers can dink and dunk too.

by ibygeorge on Aug 19, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I liked the QB sneak too

Although I am pretty sure Ben called that one.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think BA had a complex. He was a good play caller early on here, but then the line fell to pieces and his job was at the mercy of Ben’s desire to keep him, the result being a pass happy, no run trusting offense geared to what Bruce thought Ben would like.

I honestly can’t blame the team for not running more than they did those years, even 2009 our second downs were horrible down and distance for running plays.

The edict to run the ball more came at the same time as Pouncey. I wonder which had more effect on our success in the ground game. Actually I don’t wonder at all, it’s an easy question.

BA’s play design is really good, his passing plays do a great job of getting matchups and exploiting zones, seriously, with an average OC Hines would be a liability, the man just isn’t fast anymore, his routes let him showcase his skills while the other WR routes work with his timing.

The play calling and balance has improved as the running game personnel has. I can’t wait to see what Brucey throws down with this group of wideouts. I hope the line can protect Ben, and Ben progresses to the next level of greatness and doesn’t miss so many wide open receivers this year.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 19, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

meh

I still will never forgive Cleveland 2009. In those conditions, anybody calling that many pass plays has sawdust between his ears. I don’t care who the QB is, in those conditions with that wind you must run the football or you will lose.

I think some of the play designs are good under BA. I just think his play calling during game days is very questionable. I don’t care if you pass or run necessarily, but it drives me insane when I see him call a good play that succeeds – only to never see it again, while a failed play will be run over and over and over.

That and anybody who goes empty backfield on 3rd and short as often as BA does seriously deserves all the criticism he gets.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I still vividly remember 3rd and inches

we just ran the ball twice for nine yards and he goes into the empty backfield crap and Ben gets sacked for a loss of 6 on the play.

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by WVPiratesfan on Aug 19, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hills

Is it just me that thinks Hills has looked as good as any LT we’ve used? I’d have to look again at the tape, but I saw no drop off when he went to that spot after Scott and Gilbert went down.

I never thought I’d say this, but I hope they can extend this guy. The project is turning into a more finished product.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Hills is easily the surprise of camp

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

When hills moved to tackle

he got beat a lot from what i saw, he is much better at guard

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Aug 19, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see him get beat a lot. I thought he held his own.

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by John Stephens on Aug 19, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too

but I’ll admit I could have missed his bad plays.

Does anyone know who the hell Colon was blocking when Ben got crushed? It looked like he crashed down on the inside like it was a run play and left the end with nothing but grass between him and the QB. Aside from that Gaffe though, I thought he looked good out there.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it was trent cole

abused him on a couple of plays but i’ll re-watch

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Aug 19, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I saw that too

There was one play during the 2nd drive. His guy gets around him only to get lambasted by Mendenhall who the nruns out of the backfield for a pass. Ben gives Mendenhall a tough one which he catches oned handed and then either picks up the 1st down or is really close

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

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by Steel in FL on Aug 19, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was just shy

of the first and Pouncy was right there with him

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by stillergorillar on Aug 19, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd agree with that

Seemed to have some problems on a few plays.

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by SteelerMessican on Aug 19, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Cam Heyward kid

yeah, he’s going to be GOOD. He was plaing in the eagles backfield like it was going out of style

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by WVPiratesfan on Aug 19, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I honestly never saw him last night.

I’m going to have to go rewatch, but late in the game I realized I had’nt noticed him at all.
Odd.

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by SNW on Aug 19, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cornerback toughness...

thanks for pointing that out about Samuel. I totally agree, everyone is talking about wanting shutdown corners, but CBs always needed for run support in D. LeBeau’s D!

by John Kang on Aug 19, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Other than a CB falling down, you don’t see opposing WR’s wide open down field on us ever.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 19, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kapinos

Why wasn’t Sepulveda punting last night? Was he injured yet AGAIN?

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

This doesn’t really have anything to do with this post specifically, but I read an article the other day about Dwyer and check out the quote at the end. Tell me that Tomlin doesn’t have an influence on these guys.

All I can do is continue to be consistent and do whatever I can to be one of those people who put their hand in the pile and help us win a championship," Dwyer said. “God forbid if anybody goes down, but I’ll be ready to go. The standard is the standard.”

The article can be found here

by worldtrip on Aug 19, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

A few things I noticed in the first half

Terry Bradshaw: has has a good run throughout the years, but should be cut before the regular season.
The first thing he has to say (aside from whether his shirt makes his eyes pop) is about Mendy’s SB fumble. He picks the Lions as his favorite team this year???

On Antonio Brown’s wide open TD: Mendy makes a good read and even though he is lined up on Ben’s right side, he comes around to Ben’s left and picks up the blitzer.

I formation: Two plays in a row!

At the two minute warning in no particular order: Receivers look sharp, 2 interceptions, defense looks good, running game looks good, offense looks good.

At halftime: Three interceptions in a half, is that legal?
TOP: Steelers 23 minutes Philly 7 minutes, while only returning 2 starting O-lineman from last year. Pretty impressive.
What is the difference between this D and the one that played against the skins last week? Deebo and Troy.

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by alfresco on Aug 19, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the Lions too

I could see them making the playoffs

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

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by Steel in FL on Aug 19, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bradshaw

The announcers sucked. How about talking about about the teams on the field instead of the the Lions. Somebody has to control Bradshaw drunken dribble. They hardly ever said who was involved in the tackle. Pitiful performance, they added nothing. Agreed trade Bradshaw.

by ibygeorge on Aug 19, 2011 8:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mendenhall

Would seem to be a smart player. If the line coheres a bit better this year, and they rotate Redman in to give Mendy some pass receptions, I think he could have an outstanding all-purpose year.

He’s been good when he’s played, but I’ve always felt he has a little more talent than he’s lived up to.

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by lottwasgangsta on Aug 22, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good game by you guys yesterday, you kicked our asses. It was nice seeing my boy Dixon bounce back too. It’s funny though seeing how we’re overrated all of sudden all over the place(haven’t seen any of you guys say it) if it was last week people would be saying the exact opposite.

Dominique Rodgers Cromartie’s pathetic attempt at a corner blitz

The one at fault was Nate Allen not Dom. Dom was blitzing though & I think one of your huge lineman got in his way. He’s just learning how to blitz & has never done it before once he gets it down though I think he could be real good with the speed he has.

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by The Legend on Aug 19, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Vick hitting Troy

yes, troy should have gone down. But Vick also went low on him, which annoyed me.

What actually pisses me off though is that the new NFL rule is so vague players aren’t sure if they can block a QB on an INT return without getting a penalty or fine.

Harrison and others said after the game that they let vick alone bc they weren’t sure they could hit him. And then he turns around and whallops troy.

by syrsteelerfan on Aug 19, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Good point

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 19, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

well like an idiot Vick led with his head

and tried to cut him down that way. Only bad things can come from that

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by WVPiratesfan on Aug 19, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both teams seasons could have gone up in smoke on that tackle.

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by SNW on Aug 19, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really wish he had tried to do that...

to James Harrison. I mean, it would be suicide, but it would be funny.

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by lottwasgangsta on Aug 22, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF?

how can that even be something they could be confused about? After an INT then everyone on offense becomes a defender and can be blocked. If the nfl doesn’t want the QB’s to get hit, then it’s up to the coaches to tell their own to run to the sidelines immediately after a pick. Luckily Troy wasn’t injured, but the coaches need to sort this mind set out and fast.

by lkwdsteel on Aug 19, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was probably the best play & the most frustrating play of the night wrapped up into one for the Eagles. Vick made the best tackle of the night that he put some of his frustration into, but his teammates apparently didn’t know they could tackle Troy since he should of been tackled before he got to Vick.

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by The Legend on Aug 19, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I notice

that the refs didn’t flag him for launching, leading with the head, or aiming for the knees. I expect that James Harrison wasn’t the only one that didn’t know what to do when the damn QB suddenly goes berserk…

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by Rebecca Rollett on Aug 19, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I LOVE THE NEW RULE!!!

I know Tunch and a bunch of people here have been whining about the new rule, but I couldn’t be happier about it. I think that the new rule will save the Steelers 7 – 21 points over the course of the season … and that will help.

The new rule is the first rule change in a long time that has really benefited the defense, and that will undoubtedly help us.

grain of salt

by PaulMorel on Aug 19, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Donovan Warren

Shout out to a fellow alum of Long Beach Poly High School! We have the record as the high school with the most NFL players in history. Hopefully, he can find his way in the CB rotation. Donovan was a conference champion in track as well as a football star in high school. He ran a 10.6 in the 100 meter dash in high school, but only ran a 4.59 forty yard dash in the 2010 NFL combine, due to an ankle injury. Steelers could use some speed at CB. Good luck, homie!

by nflchampsteelers on Aug 19, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Warren looked solid against the Eagles.

And Tomlin left him in for most of the game. I think he might make the team.
.

by Billy52 on Aug 20, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Warren and Lewis

Both looked better than Gay.

I am glad the Steelers are willing to find out what they have in pre-season, in the hopes of upgrading a secondary that is way-below-average other than Troy and Ike “the fast backboard” Taylor

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by lottwasgangsta on Aug 22, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tomlin is a rock star.

So today in class I was telling my 8th graders about how well my classes performed last year, and I mentioned that I expected them to do as well if not surpass them. I actually said, “The standard is the standard.” The scary thing is that a handful of the kids caught the reference! lol

by bone1978 on Aug 19, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

THAT

is awesome!

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Aug 20, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha, that is awesome!

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by Michael Bean on Aug 21, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

opposites like...

Troy=the unstoppable force?
Redman=the immovable object?

Or vice versa?

by Josh Evans on Aug 19, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Curtis Brown

Showed some flashes. He had a pretty good 3rd quarter. Gave up some easy completions in the 4th, but he also showed he’s not a tackling liability.

Stay thirsty my friends.

by SteelerMessican on Aug 19, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

With Keenan Lewis and D. Warren playing well, any chance that Willie Gay could get cut?

I would love to see that happens. I think Gay is our biggest liability in pass coverage. And I still think Crezdon Butler can be a great fit for this D in the slot and on the outside. The turk is coming so some of these youngsters need to get on the field and pick it up.

by datruth4life2.0 on Aug 20, 2011 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Butler is probably a goner

I had high hopes for him too, but the dude clearly didn’t come to camp in good shape and this is his second year. I think they give Warren a roster spot before Crez.

I heard that Allen was having a ok camp when he wasn’t injured, so they might actually PS him or place him on IR (so that no one can claim him off waivers) so they can really work on his skills next year.

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Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Aug 21, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  


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