Harbaugh, Ravens Show Little Class In Victory
by Mike Frazer on Sep 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT
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PrintEDIT: Alright, some good points were made in the comments and I am relenting on everything except the Oher-Taylor incident. But I'll leave this post here so I can take my lumps. A man should know when he has been defeated! Thanks most of all to BAL_Hawk, your points have been well made.
All week long, it seemed like the Baltimore Ravens were, for once, taking the high road. There was no media circus. There were no bold predictions. There wasn't a single Raven taking cheap verbal shots.
But then the score got out of hand Sunday, and John Harbaugh's motley bunch showed their true colors.
I will gladly give credit where it is due: Baltimore was far more prepared and showed a greater sense of urgency. They had a great gameplan and they executed it with few mistakes. They deserved the win.
But they didn't need to take so many unnecessary shots.
Case in point: with the score already a lopsided 27-7 early in the third, Harbaugh called for a fake kick, instead scoring an unneeded two points and making the game 29-7. Okay, you could argue that a comeback was still possible, but it started the ball rolling.
Following that score, with a 22-point lead, Harbaugh called for 12 throws on Baltimore's remaining 33 plays, including a deep attempt to Anquan Boldin with less than 10 minutes to go. Flacco also threw to the end zone with four minutes remaining when the margin was already four scores. The pass was actually caught, but only because Boldin so forcefully pushed off that the defender was sent sprawling to the ground. For once, the officials actually called him for what he does on nearly every play.
You could even argue that the late field goal, when the game was clearly out of reach with two minutes to go, was nothing more than running up the score.
There were a hundred other little things, too. There was the constant cheap shots after the whistle -- nothing new to the Ravens, but it's not the thing you normally do when you are winning.
Things like Ray Rice pulling Troy Polamalu back to the ground when Polamalu was trying to get off the pile. It so irked the safety that he uncharacteristically threw a punch.
If you ask me, he should have aimed for his crotch instead of his head. The NFL indicated Thursday night that crotch shots are fair game when they failed to flag Charles Woodson for just that, indicating that a man's juevos are not off-limits.
The biggest one of all, though, was the cheap shot by Michael Oher that ultimately resulted in an penalty against Ike Taylor. It occurred simultaneously with the Polamalu-Rice incident. After the play was over, Taylor began walking to the sidelines. Replays clearly show Oher, who was sitting on the ground, follow Taylor with his eyes and, when the cornerback was within reach, punch Taylor in the ankle.
Yes, Taylor should have been the bigger man. He said as much himself after the game. But the bottom line is Oher's actions were completely uncalled for, should have resulted in his ejection from the game for throwing a punch or at least an offsetting penalty, and served as nothing more than evidence that John Harbaugh is only outdone by his players when it comes to behaving with no class.
I will grant that emotions were high, particularly for a coach who had been outdone by his nemesis by a count of 6-2 entering the game. But in the same situation, do you think Mike Tomlin would have made the same calls? You can look back to 2007 for the answer, when the Steelers jumped out to a 35-0 lead on the Ravens in the first half. I have long maintained that at no point in the first half can someone be accused of running up a score, but once the second half has started, piling on makes you look like a jerk.
In that 2007 contest -- admittedly before Harbaugh became a head coach, though the person on the opposing sideline shouldn't matter -- the Steelers threw eight passes in the second half, with six of them being on third down merely attempting to extend the drive. Contrast that with Sunday's game, where nine of Flacco's 12 second-half attempts occurred on first or second down.
In Pittsburgh, players and coaches win humbly and, in the 33 or so percent f the games in which they lose, they do so with dignity. Conversely, in Baltmore, players talk smack even when they lose, and their coach shows he can't even win with class.
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They had a lot of pent up frustration
There is another game in this series…..
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Yes, I am a Ravens fan
Wow, really? How long have you been watching Raven/Steelr games? Is this anything new between these teams? I have mad respect for the Steelers. Right now they are the top dogs in the AFC. In years past we have been leading these types of games many times only to see the Steelers come back and rip our hearts out. The Ravens needed this game in so many ways. They needed to win it in this fashion.
Its the NFL, you know what they say…..If you dont want them to score then stop them. This isnt a high school game. I am not here to bash the Steelers. Not here to say the Steeler fans suck…But this article is wrong. I mean if you have watched these games over the years both teams could cry about officiateing. Seems this poster forgets about the hit on Ed Reed by Ward a couple years back. It wasnt exactly a great display of sportsmanship (well within the rules).
Yerday I seen all kinds of holding on both sides. Not to mention it just sounds like sour grapes after suffering a terrible loss.
I am surprised at the Steeler organization. They were the team that always made all the right moves at the right time. I for one admired theyre attitude towards players. “get rid of them a year to early…then a year to late” ie Porter for one. Pittsburgh always had the right mix between vets and youth. Next year if the cap is not raised….Steelers could be as much as 20 million over the cap. If the cap isnt raised….last years Super Bowl run maybe its last for a few years. Cuts will need to be made.
As far as Baltimore is concerned, I am not buying Super Bowl tickets just yet. It was one game. Just like you guys …its one game….dont get to low….or to high. Just like any other team injuries always happen. Yesterday the Ravens lost thier 1st rd pick for several weeks. If Flacco goes down we unlike the steelers will be in huge trouble. If I was Pittsburgh I would just burn the tapes from Sunday. There is nothing to be learned. You got beat at every aspect of the game. It happens. Move on to next week. Same with the Ravens, last week dosnt mean squat.
No doubt the Steelers and Ravens meet again in Nov….and if it is like most years we will meet again in the Playoffs……Planty of time for redemption…..plenty of time to prove if you are for real!
. I for one admired theyre attitude towards players. "get rid of them a year to early…then a year to late" ie Porter
me too……..the seeming attitude from the FO on this concerned me more than anything during the offseason. Good insight my fellow football fan!
by steeler fever on Sep 13, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Since it looks like you were talking to me, not the post itself which I don't particularly buy into
Wow, really?
Yes really. They had a lot of pent up frustration.
How long have you been watching Raven/Steelr games?
Ever since the first one. Why do you ask?
Is this anything new between these teams?
No, but what is your point?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
The feeling is not mutual
I have mad respect for the Steelers
Steeler respect has been earned, the Rat-Birds likely will never be worthy…and Sunday proved it.
by steelerwheeler on Sep 13, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It is for me
When I look at the Ravens squad, I see the Steelers – we play the same brand of football, if you love everything about the Steelers, how can you not appreciate the Ravens? They are built in our image.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Really???? NOT
The Pittsburgh Steelers cut convicted felons, they do not give them a raise. I do respect their style of play once the ball is snapped, but their management and character resemble the Bengals franchise a lot more than the Steelers.
by steelerwheeler on Sep 14, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact that you say -
“he should have aimed for his crotch and not his head” speaks volumes and Ward might have appreciated such sneaky tactics if he still wasn’t looking for his lower jaw bone.
now, you have to realize we have suffered some humiliating loses to the steelers. crimes of passion frequently involve more stab wounds.
I have to admit Raven
the hit of the day was JJ on Ward – that was as bad as Ward has gotten Reed in the past. Man, that was a nice hit!
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
if we didn’t get a win over you soon it wouldn’t be any fun as the rivalry was becoming lopsided. this victory will make us both stronger. in other words, if your sparing partner is always weak you might lose to GB in the SB. so, here’s to both of us! build and be strong.
there is a 2nd/reverse look of the JJ on Ward shot. it shows the amazing distance Ward travels in the air to his back. the front view doesn’t do justice to the shot. but, on the same play, one of our light weights tries to jack a fat daddy and bounces off. pretty funny because our light weight got up real quick fled the scene of the embarrassment.
Absolutely, Steel Sharpens Steel.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
who cares if they kept going for the score over and over
Personally I hope the Steelers do the same the rest of the season and then double it when we play the Ravens again
James Harrison~ "We are not trying to hit nobody hard. We don't want to get fined" *blank stare* /end sarcasm.
by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 12, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
I think this is just whinning IMO
Both teams were participating in extracurricular nonsense after the whistle. To point fingers and say it was just them is absurd. We got whooped, time to take defeat with grace.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Accusations about Class are overboard
But the general observation is more or less correct. They did not comport themselves in a way that quite a few other teams would have, and seemed to expend a lot of energy in week 1.
For the sake of comparison, imagine what the Patriots would have done yesterday, or for that matter how they acted last year. Therein lies the difference.
"It's football the way it's meant to be played. That's who Pittsburgh is, and that's who Pittsburgh has always been."
-- so says Rex Ryan.
It's a rivalry game
Class out of the window when these games are played.
Did the Jets show any class after they beat the Patriots in the divisional round last season?
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No
They just did what the Patriots did to them
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 12, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The first game between the two in the regular season put the Jets in harms way
Especially the way Braylon Edwards was celebrating after every catch.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
that’s the chance you take when you rub it in
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 12, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying it was just them
I’m saying they spent a large portion of the afternoon baiting Steeler players. Yes, the responsibility is on the players to not allow themselves to be overcome by their emotions, but things like what Oher did, and throwing for the endzone with 5 minutes to go when leading by 28 points is classless.
by Mike Frazer on Sep 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe next game they will hold our hand and lead us to only a one score defeat. That way, Woodley, Harrison, Timmons, etc. won’t need some warm milk and a bedtime story to prevent night terrors.
I hope that ass whooping hurt. And I wish they had scored more than 35. I saw nothing that looked like Steelers football yesterday. I just saw a bunch of hyperbolic predictions from our players off the field fall far short of their performance on the field.
You see a to-may-toe and I see a to-mah-toe.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
I can't disagree that the players need to feel the sting.
I just believe that you win with dignity and you lose with dignity. Cheap shots and running up the score have no place in sports — you show respect to your competitors. We’re allowed to disagree :)
And yes, it’s largely me venting. If you see my other post this morning, you’ll see just how underwhelmed I was with the Pittsburgh performance. After playing like that, they deserved to be humiliated, and from a motivational standpoint I think what Harbaugh and his players did is perfect — but it doesn’t make it right in my opinion.
by Mike Frazer on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Running up the score
Doesn’t exist in the NFL (in rec, high school and even college – where the talent gap can be huge and people don’t get payed – yes) – especially in a rivalry as fierce as Ravens – Steelers. You take what you can get, because it may be the last points you score for while. This is a very fickle league and things can change very quickly. These defenses have so much pride, I think they’d be insulted by the other team “letting up.”
These guys are all professionals and get paid an absurd amount of money to play football, at an amazingly high level. If they don’t want to get scored on, they need to do something about it.
If the roles were reversed yesterday I’d want the Steelers to keep pouring it on, so hopefully our guys would be embarrassed enough to make things right – quickly.
Good post above Johnny – Rec’d.
I can’t believe you are talking about the Ravens trash talking and winning with dignity.
In Pittsburgh, players and coaches win humbly and, in the 33 or so percent f the games in which they lose, they do so with dignity. Conversely, in Baltmore, players talk smack even when they lose, and their coach shows he can’t even win with class.
After the win, I didn’t hear a single Raven player or coach talk about the Steelers with nothing but the utmost respect.
Have you forgotten what Woodley, Harrison, Clark and most recently, Hampton have been saying all off-season? What have the Ravens said? Tell me. They have kept quiet while player after player from Pittsburgh have made fools of themselves and been nothing but disrespectful towards the Ravens and their players.
Also, it’s absolutely absurd to try and dissect the fights on the field. Those guys were heated and in the middle of a physical game. There was equal guilt on both sides. Anyone who’s ever played understands that.
Lose with dignity? Win with class? Oh please!
I wasn’t going to say anything, but your comments and attitude are just outrageous! You need to learn to lose with dignity.
Yup...Look at this comment from Rice
Rice did something interesting late in the game. He got involved in a shoving match with Troy Polamalu that turned Pittsburgh/Baltimore ugly. Eight or 10 players got involved, and hair was pulled (Polamalu’s), a couple of kicks were given (hard to tell whom) and mayhem lasted for 20 or 25 seconds. When the game was over, Rice made a beeline for Polamalu to apologize for his role in the brawl. "I look up to you as a player,’’ Rice told him.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/09/11/week.1/index.html#ixzz1XknKbVKu
I’m sure Polamalu, Taylor and Oher all feel the same way. These guys are just reacting in the heat of the moment.
I don’t think any less of Troy or Ike because of that fight.
Oher has been known to take his cheap shots, though
Which is probably a large part of what set me off. If you want examples, Cleveland last season and the playoffs in January are the first to come to mind. The rest of it was heat of the moment, but Oher was sitting there waiting for Taylor to come by. The evidence is beyond compelling, and I hope that if Taylor gets fined, that Oher does as well.
Troy was disgusted with himself for his part in this altercation. He fully expects to be fined (as does Taylor for yet another head butt that this time was flagged and cost us 15 yards.)
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
Did we really lose with dignity? Was Ike headbutting Oher dignified? Was Troy giving Rice the business after the play was dead dignified? It’s a heated rivalry and both teams were getting chippy. I saw a lot of bullshit that both teams should be ashamed of and I’m shocked the refs did as little as they did.
I believe that if the outcome was reversed you would have been pleased with how the Steelers performed and not considering that we were classless. It’s professional football and sometimes you get your ass kicked.
To be honest, I think the NFL should be blaming themselves for a lot of what went on yesterday. Putting this game at week 1 is moronic for so many reasons. Letting the rivalry stew for several weeks is asking for trouble.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Putting this game at week 1 is moronic for so many reasons
I have said this all season. I hated that we had to play week 1.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
by AV23 on Sep 12, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've been critical of individuals who overstep their bounds
Had roles been reversed in some of the on-field scuffles I would have given criticism where due. Ike was absolutely out of line in his response to Oher’s actions, which I made clear. Oher should have been penalized as well, and both of them should have stood the chance of being ejected.
I’m a Steelers fan, and I don’t hide it. But I do not condone cheapshots by any player on any team.
You and Tod Haley need to start hanging out together
If the Ravens stop scoring will you accept defeat and stop trying to score and comeback. Big Ben was getting beat up and game especially after that score was out of sight but did they pull Big Ben no they risked getting hurt by leaving him in. You let up especially against a quality opponent you end up losing games like we did twice against you last Year. Twice we had a decent lead and let up did you all honor us winning with dignity. No! You came back sent us home watch the rest of the playoffs. A few weeks ago there was a post on this sight about how funny it was for the Steelers to blow out the Ravens. That sure is winning with dignity. I know blowing off steam and as fan with intensity of emotions such as with this rivalry you need to find something to dirty it. The next go around will be tighter I know that. These two teams battle each other and we have our good and bad games and years.
SMH
Twice we had a decent lead and let up did you all honor us winning with dignity. No! You came back sent us home watch the rest of the playoffs.
I don’t think you let up, i just think in those games we adjusted to being behind better than you guys adjusted to being ahead. I did not see any “let up” from your team. And, if you did “let up” then the only one to blame for the losses is the coaching staff for allowing the “let up.” The majority of Steelers fans on here have admitted to teh ass-whooping with no excuses, that is what happened in those games—the 1st half belonged to you guys, the 2nd half belonged to us. You play to win the game….not play to build a lead then “let up” and hope the other team doesn’t try to comeback
Things can always be worse....
Was not trying lessen your wins last year but
We didn;t adjust you are right but I believe and I look at other games that we almost lost but didn’t because they were lesser teams. I not saying we layed down we just stopped being aggressive. It was a bit of a let up in a way and the Steelers being the team they are made us pay. You never step off the gas especially against a quality opponent.
Please explain
how trying to score in a professional organization is classless? Just yesterday Ted Ginn scored 2 times in 60 seconds – the Ravens have been on the wrong side of that against the Steelers – you play to win.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
How can you not try to score as many points as possible
After seeing what the referees did in the Steelers/Miami game last year. You are not only playing against the other team, but also against the incompetent officiating.
the refs let them play and left out the pushy shovey penalties for the most part. they probably should have NOT called the 15 yarder on your guy.
did you see the ref pass out TWICE. not sure the TV caught it. he got knocked out flat and then lifted his head with the rumble still going on and went out again. serious but funny with beer.
I noticed the ref going down
I thought he got hit by somebody. Ike deserved the 15 yarder, but I think, if anything, Ray Rice should have also been called for the takedown of Troy as he was trying to get out of the pile.
Things can always be worse....
what they fail to realize
Is that this is only one game of a two game series between us. They pulled out everything they had been working on all off season to beat us. All the frustration of us beating them in the playoffs AGAIN was released against the amazing Steelers. But out of their frustration, they provided the Steelers with a much needed slap in the face. After this devastating loss, I expect our team to rally and play with a huge chip on their shoulder the rest of the season. And by the way Ravens, thanks for showing us everything you got in the first game, now we can game plan for it. Thanks for kicking us while we were down, now we got a grudge against you. I wouldn’t have said it yesterday, while I was crying in my beer, but this ass kicking was exactly what the Steelers needed. I would imagine the inflated bubble of a head they had got popped yesterday.
Everything we had worked out? You mean our line that has never played together Evans who has been here for 3 weeks and was hurt part of it, Only having 4 active WR’s which basically only Boldin and Evans got serious time and Rice barely played the 2nd half? I don’t think we even ran any type of trick plays or anything, just went straight up.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Let’s not start any needless trash talking. I don’t think this fan-post reflects the views of the real fans.
Oh I know, I wasn’t really talking trash just addressing this statement.
And by the way Ravens, thanks for showing us everything you got in the first game, now we can game plan for it
A lot of the guys I have had conversations with here and on BB have been very classy.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Even though I agree with you
The trash talk is pretty well deserved after that beating. As long as talk isn’t hateful I will not object to it because we played like a D-2 college team.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah ya did
The two point play would be a trick play that we obviously weren’t expecting. The redesigned blitz packages were new and yall definitely had a lot of pent up emotion that was released. Not saying yall aren’t a great team that deserves respect! Saying you emptied the bank in your first game of the season. I do expect the Ravens to have a let down after kicking their rivals ass. And it did get kicked really good, but in the long term it will work to the Steelers advantage. Thats the way I see, could I be wrong sure…..but thats always a risk when you state your opinion.
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Saying you emptied the bank in your first game of the season.
Whatever you say, man.
Read some of the quotes by the Ravens’ players and coaches only minutes after the game. They weren’t gloating or pounding their chests. They were already talking about Tennessee.
“The whole thing about ghosts and demons and monkeys, that stuff is not real to us. This was a football game.’’
— Baltimore coach John Harbaugh, after the Ravens exorcised something or other in their rout of the Steelers in Baltimore.
You clearly don’t know anything about the Ravens.
Those are the correct football things to say after a game like that, but to say that stuff is not real to them when this was the first Flacco victory over Ben is lol as steelerfever
good point
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 12, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course it means something, but to say that ‘they emptied their bank accounts’ and imply that they won’t have anything left for the season is ridiculous. His comment was an obvious attempt to belittle the Ravens’ performance yesterday.
well
even if I was attempting to belittle the Ravens performance…….wouldn’t this be the place for it, on a Steelers fan site? I didn’t know I was expected to brag up the Ravens on their performance. The loss hurt a lot, especially because it was so total. But I do see the good I expect to come out of it. Of course I don’t expect the same view from a Ravens fans. We watch the game and post-analyze the game through different perspectives.
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to know you guys dont believe in monkeys ;P
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Look, I watched the game with 15 or so Ravens fans from the bachelor party I was at. They treated this game like it was a playoff win and many of them even exclaimed it was the best win (or one of the best) since the SB victory. I know they are not the team, but that says something. Ravens fans have had the Steelers monkey on their back for awhile and a decisive victory meant something. I don’t think its implausible to expect some of that poured over onto the team. I could tell by how fired up Harbaugh and the players were at times that this game meant a lot. To automatically say they didn’t put extra into it is just as big of assumption as the opposite.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough… This game meant alot to the fans, but I can promise you that the team has moved on. The complete lack of gloating or chest pounding on the part of the Ravens is evidence of that. You guys can pray that they ‘emptied their bank accounts’ if you want, but it was just a solid football performance in my opinion.
I’m not saying they showed their entire playbook at all. I just think their preparation from this game was probably more than normal. Just a huge hypothesis of mine is that the blow out was a combination of that and the cocky arrogance of the Steelers that resulted in lackadaisical preparation.
Clearly, the Ravens were the better team yesterday in every way. I’ll be utterly shocked and distraught if we see this same type of outcome in the rematch.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I never said that this game wasn’t extra-important to them. I was only responding to his implication that the Ravens had ‘emptied their bank account.’
Believe me, I know how much this game meant to the team and the fans. It was huge, but on the same note, it should have been nearly as important to the Steelers considering that they only won the division on a tie-breaker last season.
I don’t think it was as important because we were the period at the end of your season last year and two years before that.
I think if we had played the Packers, we would have been a lot more fired up than what you saw yesterday.
There were two good teams on the field yesterday. One was just a lot better prepared.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You're wrong!
We were better at something very important: our offensive line generated more turnovers than any other unit on either team :)
You are absolutely correct. The meaning of this game is deffinately different from Baltimores perspective. You ask anybody in Baltimore what is the one team you want to beat….not even close. Harbaugh was just giving “coach speak”
And yes to us it is like a playoff game…As far as we are concerned in years past the only thing between us and the super bowl has been the Steelers. All these players hear offseason is “beat Pittsburgh” Dont worry as much as we enjoy the wins….we suffer the losses as much.
hoge was on espn this morning talking about how the ravens were using vanilla stunts and our o line just couldn’t handle them… lol @ redesigned blitz. when you’re watching an o line fall apart, it’s not always the flash of the defense that is the cause.
yep
as I stated in my Driveby :) We lost both line battles
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 12, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
lost is the friendly way to put it
dominated? owned? seem to be more accurate
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
hey
if you have nothing nice to say be quiet. hahaha
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Thats kinda ignorant
I wouldn’t be talking smack after this game. Better calm your expectations because we went down tis same road in 2009.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
How quickly the “real” fans jump off the bandwagon. As usual I will stand by my statements and if a couple of Ravens fans disagree that is to be expected. As for you SC, perhaps you will see the light and remember that there is still a seat for you reserved on the bandwagon!
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I was here in 2009 and saw what happened
You sure you were a part of Steeler Nation when 9-7 happened?
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well thanks for the feedback klompus
Definitely wouldn’t be the first time and I imagine it want be the last. I am pretty level headed in the rest of my life. But yeah, when it comes to the Steelers I am a fanatic and possibly, maybe go a little overboard sometimes. And yeah SC, I was a fan in 2009. I suffered through it along with everybody else. I DON"T think that will repeat this season!
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is ridiculous for a fan to consider a year in which the team finished with a winning record, was in very competitive games throughout the season, and barely missed the playoffs to be something they had to “suffer through”.
My recommendation is to learn to enjoy the journey. It’s not just about the end result.
Watching ST that year was pretty damn close though
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a lot like 2001
Particularly in the AFC Championship game.
Let’s not talk about that. F you Troy Edwards and your stupid penalty.
by pistil_stamen on Sep 13, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
:(
please stop
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Painful memories
And F Troy Brown as well.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 13, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
WT
You and I are two completely opposite persons…….I imagine you are happy about that from our previous discussion. To me it is about the end result! And yes watching the Steelers underperform is suffering to me! I am a fanatic not a follower and I make no apologies about that! So what you find ridiculous, I consider perfectly normal. I am not going to make any recommendations to you WT, thats just your style. Not mine!
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I enjoy the journey as much as the next guy...
…but anything less than a Super Bowl victory SUCKS in my world. I have high expectations every year, because the team exists to compete for a Super Bowl victory every year. Even in rebuilding times, not winning it all sucks. But we stay with our team no matter what.
Wow
Thank (fill in deity here) you are a Steeler fan, because you would probably hate football otherwise.
by pistil_stamen on Sep 13, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
A winning record without the playoffs is moot
Especially when you have a veteran-laden team just coming off a Super Bowl and you spend the next season underperforming.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Under-performing, bad and untimely injuries, and losing to better teams. They were still in the hunt until the bitter end. Sometimes the team won’t make the playoffs, even when it appears they “should”. That’s how it goes. I appreciate even during the “off years” the games and seasons tend to be close and exciting until the end.
And by the way Ravens, thanks for showing us everything you got in the first game, now we can game plan for it
I highly doubt the ravens showed everything to the steelers the ravens offense is fairly new with new offensive linemen, wideouts, runningbacks, and etc. The defense has some new players as well with a aggressive play caling defensive coordinator. The ravens will improve and I believe will change alot before they meet the steelers again
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
I understand your sentiment
However, it seems a bit odd to complain about a team of professional athletes trying to beat you by as much as possible. Rather than a question of class, it would seem to be more a matter of self-preservation. People talk about bulletin-board material, but really those are just words outside of the domain of the game of football. Actions taken, on the other hand, are much more likely to reverberate.
Honestly, I do not care about the actions of the Ravens yesterday, aside from being temporarily bemused, but I do know a certain organization that will. I think the Ravens may have done themselves a future disservice acting the way that they did.
Speaking of exorcisms, the Texans enjoyed a fairly large victory over a traditional nemesis, and yet they still knew to (quite literally) not kick a guy when he is down. We will see in a couple of months.
"It's football the way it's meant to be played. That's who Pittsburgh is, and that's who Pittsburgh has always been."
-- so says Rex Ryan.
*BS*
1st – It’s not like we got beat 84-0, they put up 35 points a figure (or within a point or two) you will see weekly this year by multiple teams.
2nd – Fake Kick – If you see a weakness you exploit it – it’s the difference between winning and losing. Plus there was 30min left in the game, did you just expect them to roll over and give up?
3rd – This has been a long time coming for the Ravens, if you are having the game of your life are you going to play to your ability or feel bad for the team that has dashed your hopes season after season?
4th – This is a PRO league, if you don’t want it to happen, the onus is on you to make sure you stop the other team – this isn’t Pop Warner, if you get your feelings hurt, more incentive to not let it happen to you for next week.
The sentiment that the Raven’s somehow “dissed” the Steelers by playing to win is B*llshit, we lost, get over it. if anything, we were the ones starting fights and acting out below the standard – keep the conversation real. Talk about what actually happened on the field. The Raven’s don’t owe us shit, we have been kicking them in the nuts for years, if we want to continue to do that WE have to play our best, it has nothing to do with them.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
See my post below
Spoiler: I eat a bunch of crow.
by Mike Frazer on Sep 12, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Addressing the post this is ridiculous. You can’t say that brawl was all Ravens. Your guys did there fair share of it as well and no one should be excused from that. The fake kick is a designed play not a call from Harbaugh. We have ran that before on teams who liked to overload on one side because now we have more blockers on one side and it will leave a giant hole. Look at the cowboys game a few years ago when Koch ran over one of their players. Also you guys have came back on us before if you remember the last game, so of course we are going to keep the foot on the peddle. Even late in the game, you guys are a great team still and we aren’t going to go half speed and get our guys hurt. We have a completely new group on offense and we honestly weren’t that aggressive. If we were the score would have been even higher.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
We get our asses thoroughly handed to us fair and square
And the thing you complain about is class?
We should take our whooping and head home. This post sounds like someone crying after losing a game of monopoly.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
+1
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Why is Monopoly considered a family game?
It never ends well.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
A game that involves money and power never ends well
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
To Funny
I have always hated monopoly… lmao
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
They could have beaten us by 50.
WE are responsible for keeping them from scoring. Our asses were beat and beaten thoroughly. We need to take it like men.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 12, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
I think most real fans feel this way after losses, but there will always be those who whine and cry.
Unfortunately, the ones who whine get all the attention.
I believe I gave credit that the Ravens thoroughly deserved the win.
Implying I’m not a “real fan” is a bit of a cheap shot, don’t you think? I’ve followed my team since I was 3 years old — 28 years and counting, and I’m as die-hard as they come. Calling my opinion whining is pretty cheap, too. You have your thoughts, I have mine. I’m not attacking you personally.
by Mike Frazer on Sep 12, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
the thing is mike
You are a real fan! You aren’t just a follower…. A follower doesn’t take it personal, it doesn’t mean a whole lot to them. I am a follower of the razorbacks, I am Fanatic for the Steelers. People confuse the two. Not disparaging any other college team, but who has the most Fanatical fans in college football. Its the Alabama fans, it means everything to em, they aren’t reasonable about it. It means everything to em, thats why I was happy when they won the national championship a couple of years ago…it means so much to them.
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
To call someone who doesn’t take it personally that their favorite team lost “not a real fan” is really quite ridiculous
lol
Maybe you should do a post on it WT……lets get to the bottom of this fanatic vs follower issue.
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Steeler Fever
You are mistaking reason and perspective for loyalty and fanaticism.
I have been a Steelers fan since ‘74 (3 years old – 37 years and running), growing up in a Washington Redskins household. I currently live inbetween Redskins and Ravens country. Until about 6 years ago I was only able to catch a couple games a year, now I have Sunday ticket at $450yr. Aprx $5000 (thousand, not hundred) of my wardrobe is Steelers related (I am not a rich man, I just have a lot of Steelers clothing), hell, even my Northface is Black and Yellow. I am sitting right now in Raven’s country Wearing my #86 and taking my lumps like a man. I take losses personally and I live on a high when we win, but that doesn’t mean that I lose my basic faculties in either situation.
If you can’t give credit where it is due, you lack perspective – that doesn’t make you a bigger fan than me, not being able to accept truth does not make something any less true. I can interact with the “enemy” with respect, why shouldn’t I? We are not the Hatfield’s and McCoy’s – there isn’t anything personal taking place – these are football games that I am not personally involved in, and no matter how much I may love my team, I try to maintain reason when discussing the games.
Lacking reason and perspective does not = fan, but it is the beginning of becoming a hooligan. Being a hooligan is nothing to aspire to – get some perspective.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Hooligan…… I have never been called that before, kinda like the ring of it : ) definitely been called worse! And thats just by my ex-wife : )
I enjoy my fanaticism, if you choose to remain calm and collective, good for you! And yes IMO lacking reason and perspective is a sign of a fanatic, its even in the definition of fanaticism. You do know that fan is short for fanaticism right?
I know the difference because I have other team I follow in college and other professional sports. I would like them to win, I am glad when they do. If they lose, well maybe they will get em the next time……just not really emotionally involved.
Now the STEELERS on the other hand….I am not reasonable, I have no perspective………its very personal and a lot of emotion is involved.
I have been a fan since 72(4 years od-39 yrs and running) You and I would appear to have different personalities. If you choose to think you are superior to me because of it…….good for you buddy! The difference would seem to be you don’t feel personally involved in a game………I do feel personally involved! So what? I guess I have a long career in hooliganism ahead of me.
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You have a funny way of correlating things
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Not saying I am superior to you
Just saying that I am no less a fan than you just because I don’t act without reason. I was also not calling you a hooligan, I was implying that is the road you head down when you go too deep down the rabbit hole. What I am trying to impress upon you is that I live and die by the Steelers just like you,and I do get emotional involved in games, and I am going to have a shitty week going over what could have been, but (Big but) I try to maintain perspective and I try to maintain my manners with people of differing views – because the reality is just that, all they are is differing views.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
you convinced me
I am putting my spray paint back in the cabinet! Actually I guess I might be less of a fan than you. I am not going to let the loss cause me to have a bad week. Now I was upset right after the game and kinda depressed last night. But starting this morning I started looking on the bright side of things and even made a post explaining why. Sadly I have received no replys and all I was wanting to hear was Steeler nation getting positive about our team again. And yes I do enjoy messing with other teams fans….always have. I am new on here, so I am gonna try to maintain a style of fanaticism that fits in with this site. In keeping with the fitting in, I will try to tone down my responses to other teams fans when they come here talking smack. I will try to ignore them and let the more reasonable fans respond. I can’t make any promises but I will try to refrain from blasting em.
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I am probably newer on here than you
it’s all good, we are all emotionally invested in the team – it is what it is.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
does it mean?
does it mean i’m not a real Steeler fan if i don’t own any Steeler clothes?
u like the razorbacks
all right think we can beat Bama or Lsu
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
LSU
yes, AR has had their number the last few years and we have a much more explosive offense than they do. Bama on the other hand, we could, but I wouldn’t get my hopes up, they are the best in College football IMO.
by steeler fever on Sep 15, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Razorbacks
struggle against good D’s, see SugarBowl against Ohio. Bama is going to give them fits.
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Sep 15, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree
i say 9-3 or 8-4 Losses to BAMA T A M maybe S Car and Maybe LSU
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
The ‘running up the score’ talk needs to stop. Pittsburgh beat Baltimore 38-7 in 2007, and that was without the Ravens starting corners. That was more of an example of ‘running up the score’ than this game.
If you guys are having a problem with the two-point conversion, you should take it up with your coaches. The Steelers tried to block that extra-point, and the Ravens’ holder is coached to go for two when the opposing team loads up on one side of a kicking formation. It would actually be more risky to attempt the kick when they are trying to block it like that.
The Steelers loaded up on the left side of the formation, and the Ravens audibled to a run to the right. That’s game-planning. That’s football.
Very interesting point
Didn’t see the overload at the time.
by Mike Frazer on Sep 12, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
After the Dallas game in 2008, punter Sam Koch, who was the FG holder then and yesterday, had a critical first down on a fake field goal. Harbaugh talked about the strategy after the game and had this to say about faking field goals…
What were the determining factors for the fake field goal? Were you close enough to the goal line that you weren’t that concerned to turn it over there? Did you see something? "Well, our mindset going in, first of all, was that we were going down there to win the game. So we were looking for whatever avenue we could to create points, to find ways to stop people. We were going to be aggressive with our blitz package, which we always are. We were going to be aggressive on offense, throwing the ball and running the ball, and then aggressive with fakes and things like that. I think the mindset was if we had an opportunity to pick up a first down with a fake, we definitely wanted to do it. They gave us the look. I think Sam Koch did a great job of executing Jerry’s [Rosburg] scheme. He communicated it really well. We actually had it called another time where it was called off, so Sam got that executed. It was pretty sharp work by Sam Koch. And when they gave us the look we wanted, he ran it and got the first down. The only thing we were disappointed with was his running back run-to-daylight vision could use a little work, so we’re thinking about a couple of drills for Sam on that."
How often is a fake field goal like that practiced? When do you first start practicing it? "Jerry [Rosburg] has got some normal, I guess a fake package, that we practiced right from the first mini-camp on through, so we continue to practice those fakes. That was one of them. From week to week, if he comes up with something that’s specific to the opponent, we practice that during the week. That particular one we’ve been practicing for a while. It’s one of his basic fakes."
Please forgive the coach-speak. You know Harbaugh.
One rebuttal, though...
I actually referenced the 38-7 game in the post. Of the 8 times the Steelers threw the ball after the half (I stated my long-held belief that it’s not running up the score if it happens in the first half, because whatever can be done in half a game can be undone in half a game), 6 of them were on 3rd down, merely extending drives (or trying to). In this game, the point was that, of the Ravens’ 12 second-half passing attempts (sacks included), nine of them were on first or second down — including the nullified TD to Boldin.
So I would still say that the Ravens were pushing much harder to score points in the late stages of the game than would be “necessary” and would be much closer to “running up the score” than the Steelers were in 2007. But, as I also said below and in an edit to the post, I am relenting on the point anyway,
by Mike Frazer on Sep 12, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
My
8 month old cold have run through that…and he can’t even walk yet. Um…Al Everest, you might want to tone down the extra point block attempt. You’re at a 9 we need you at a 3.
by pistil_stamen on Sep 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Here’s what Harbaugh had to say about it yesterday…
“Their linemen dictated that we do [the fake],” Harbaugh said. “When they put eight guys on one side of the formation and they pressure your protection that way… they are basically asking you to challenge that, and we did. If they’re going to line up like that, then I think you have to run it, and it’s an extra point.”
not only that
It’s actually in the Ravens best interest for future games to show the Steelers and other teams that overloading one side will come back to bite them. I was pissed at that play while it happened, but after thinking about it completely understand the reasoning.
U R right
I actually argued earlier that it was the wrong thing to do strategically. But I was wr wro wron…….mistaken : ) It was the smart thing to do strategically and it got them 2 points to put the game even further out of reach. Amazing how a little time gives ya some perspective.
by steeler fever on Sep 14, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I never get complaints about
running up the score. Points can be used in a tie break procedure for playoffs it is in a teams best interest to score as many as possible. This is not little league football everyone doesn’t get a chance to play because they are on the team. I think it unwise to have your stars on the field when you are up by 3 or 4 scores in the 4th quarter ( like the Pats used to do) but in the pro game scoring points is not unsportsman like.
never really though about the tie break
Even more reason to get as many points as you can.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they had scored 50 points
I don’t understand why is it classless. The players who were being scored on have just become millionairres over the past 30 days. I would rather have them earn their money then start thinking about 2 pt conversions and 4th down attempts.
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
Hey, when you suck as badly as we did, you deserve whatever you get.
And I agree there was some uncalled for stuff on the part of both teams.
Okay, okay, you guys win
Sour grapes on my part. It was the Oher-Taylor incident that sparked it, really, though I do think that was absolutely classless on Oher’s part. Ike’s response wasn’t right, but he was very blatantly baited.
You guys vote: I can delete this post, or leave it up and take my lumps :)
You are entitled to your opinion, man
No need to delete the post or something. What fun would the blogs and message boards be without such topics to discuss? :)
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
Hey! Low blow!
Keep the gloves up, pal! :)
by Mike Frazer on Sep 12, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That was funny though...
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Whiny Posts...
should never be written in the first place, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
by Nuts on Sunday on Sep 12, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Leave it up, there is a lot of good debate in here
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike
I want to commend you for coming out and saying it was sour grapes – take a man to man up. you are right about Oher, but as the saying goes, 2 wrongs don’t make a right, the guys were pissed off… sometimes swings are the result, it was not a pretty day to be a Steelers fan, but I am wearing my colors today anyway! ;)
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Unreal post. I honestly expected better from the fanbase and media after yesterday. Thanks to the people here who realized it was not running up the score or disrespect in any way.
The game is 60 minutes for a reason, not 29 minutes which is WHAT WAS LEFT WHEN WE WERE UP 22 POINTS.
Come on bid bad pass rush of the Steelers, don’t let Joe throw 12 more times. Come one DPOY Polamalu, show your super powers and stop Joe from making anymore throws.
No respect is putting 60 up on you, not 35 points. Just because your team and fans is not used to Unibrow and crew giving you a saloon style ass whooping doesn’t mean it was classless on our part.
Most here have been logical in this and accepted the historic win, I thank you for that. But those who haven’t, you are the freaking Pittsburgh Steelers, act like it. Don’t be a Bungle right now.
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
by Mr MaLoR on Sep 12, 2011 2:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I did relent, at least
And I left the post up so I could be thoroughly humiliated for it.
Myself and others are not here to humiliate you man. If we wanted to do that, we would laugh at you all about yesterday’s game and speak in the tone of a 12 year old.
I think the ravens fans lashing out about this topic has more to do with how we are portrayed. Your organization is the one we respect the most. We may hate you guys, but we do you respect you.
We don’t want a franchise which most of us admire for the most part to think that we are trying to be punks in one single game.
I think it was just a knee jerk reaction from a fan who is not used to seeing the ratbirds and mr Unibrow with their “aging” defense have the most dominating game in this rivalry’s history.
All good though
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
by Mr MaLoR on Sep 12, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Being a Bungle is the lowest form of insult
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sour Grapes make a lousy whine
It is quite funny to read these “Ravens showed no class” posts. Classless behavior was revolutionized by Steeler players over the years, from Lambert to Greene to Harrison. I did like the Ike Taylor. Your precious Steelers are not first to be called for a retaliatory strike. Usually it is Hines Ward instigating contact and the stupid opponent taking a swing at him… somehow that is OK with you. And I like comparing a 20 point Raven lead to a 35 point Steeler lead. Sounds like the 2007 Steelers already blew past your point quota and ran up the score with another TD. And if I was losing by 22, I would want the opponent throwing the ball more. If you had CBs that could cover someone, they could stop the clock or intercept. Face it, teams love to beat the Steelers because most don’t do it too often & Ward, Ben, & Harrison are among the least respected players in the league.
Captain Ben goes into week 2 tied with Cleveland and one game behind Cincinnati. I guess married life ain’t treatin’ him so good.
by Russ the Realist on Sep 12, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
Sour Grapes make a lousy whine
But Mad Dog 20/20 is awesome
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
what's a dixie cup?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
A regular plastic cup
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 13, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
cool
I thought they were paper…. He didn’t bite on that one anyways. Darn it!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Dixie stands for D
soooooo D cups
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 14, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if it still does
but it used to say right on the back label “made from substandard wine”
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Like you care what it tastes like
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Well, I'm not in HS anymore,
now I can afford taste with my alcohol!
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Like alcohol tastes good
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
The right beer goes damn good with the right food...
and of course there are things like 151 Pina Coladas (yummy and strong), Kamikazes, or Buttery Nipples (Bailey Irish Creme with a shot of Butterscotch Schnapps). Try my favorite beer with a good steak – Samuel Smith’s Oatmeal Stout.
I can’t help you if you are still on Nighttrain, Thunderbird or Wild Irish Rose Arn. You know it was okay to give up Beast, Pabst, Mickey’s Big Mouth and Natty Boh after HS right? ;)
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't drink
If I did I wouldn’t waste my money on making it taste good. I didn’t drink in High School. I am law abiding. Shame on you! (I lied) Must have been bad years for ya huh, don’t want to drink the same thing you did in high school. Can’t do that I’m cool now! ;) Gotta dress my high up!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 13, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The correct answer is
You can’t drink it now because it will kill your old liver! Now I’m not calling you old because I think I may have you by a few years…..
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Who told you about my liver
I thought they covered that up when I got out of the military.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I work for the government
By the way, not to change the subjetc….I guess because it is the same subject…. What ever happened to Kalifonia Koolers (I think that’s how they spelled it)
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Ah the good 'Ol days
Bartles & James anyone? I guess they just fell by the wayside? Maybe coolers still exist, I would have to take a look next time I am in the store… My Iowa “License” (why didn’t I think of McFly) got me plenty of coolers in HS, the guys would make fun, but I always had the ladies looking for a drink! ;)
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You cheated!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
secret in HS
PGA punch……cheap and tasted like Koolaid, even had fruit in it. The girls loved it, couldn’t taste the heavy amount of alcohol and well you can imagine the rest!
by steeler fever on Sep 13, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to throw a BTSC party...
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Jungle juice
Ever clear and other clear alcohols. We made it in Alaska at a party. Got in trouble because we told the girls there was no alcohol in it.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Jungle Melons
cut a section out of a watermelon and pour in a bottle of everclear – put piece back and refrigerate – turning occasionally. take out of the fridge and slice – man, I was an alcoholic in the military…
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah the military teaches you many techniques
I was stationed in Alaska. We even had a South Korea chick that made Soju (sp.) and got half the base in trouble. People were losing their minds
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I was stationed in Germany '89-'92
Drank WAY too much, got it all outta my system. Now I rarely drink.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
We killed it in Alaska
Nothing else to do in the winter.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Man I bet, you guys must have had some TERRIBLE drinking games!
I do miss clubbing in Europe – whole different scene over there. I remember one spot in Spain that was a 3 story square building with an open roof and a pool full of foam in the middle – they know how to party in Europe.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a remote
We had people get sent down to Elmendorf for alcohol counseling and other kinds of paperwork….
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I was stationed at a remote detachment too
but luckily it was still in the middle of somewhere… Including our Commanding officer, a couple LT’s and our First Sargent we only had 40 soldiers in the detachment – a lot of day on day off duty, but we still managed to have a lot of fun!
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
"But Mad Dog 20/20 is awesome"
Agreed. I wish I had some of that stuff yesterday.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
hahaha
When I used to drink. I didn’t tell those lies like “I like the taste”. Yeah right. All you want is something that has some taste and will get you drunk.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
If you wanted taste
You got Boone’s Farm…
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW -
How many bottles of Boones does it take to get drunk? Kinda like the Tootsie Pop question…
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea
I went the quick route. lol
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+1
mad dog 20/20 mango please!!! lol.
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by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew slasha likes the rock gut
He doesn’t mess around with the foo foo drinks
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Arn hahaha!
MD 20/20 is like nectar of the gods for the liver lol.
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by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess you guys were too snooty for Cisco
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
I drank them all
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
They didn't even fake with flavors, they used colors
Cisco Red.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
They used to call my friend Cisco Kid
yes he was a friend of miiiiiinne
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Love me some WAR...
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing to point out
Ike actually completely shut Lee Evans down, just as he almost always does to his man. We have ONE CB who can cover.
Now, on the OTHER side of the field…
Yeah Ike was the best defensive player on your side.
If you lost him and had to put McFadden or some rookie on Evans he would have burned you all day long. Respect where it is due. Taylor is a solid CB. Though I was angry at his role in the brawl.
Ike has soooo much Swagga
he can’t avoid gettin in people’s faces.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Look MDSteelerfan
I almost pounced……..but I refrained. Russ you have some very good points. I commend your team on your domination of my beloved Steelers. Maybe we will get you guys next time. We love our Ward, Ben and Harrison even if though no one respects them but us.
Whew……now that was tough to do! But I did it : )
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That
Was f’n hilarious!
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
hey...
they whipped our butts fair and square!! No excuses!! Don’t act like them and say the world is out to get us! So what they did a fake field goal, or run up the score(which they didn’t) we are lucky they didn’t score fifty on us!! It is the defenses job to be PREPARED, which we were not! Good for them! remember, we play them again in pittsburgh..remember in 2006, when they crushed us..in 07, monday night we blew them away…
A man is innocent untill proven guilty...Even if it's Ben Roethlisberger!
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+1
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If you don't want us to run the score up, then take your starters off the field.
If you have Roethlisberger out looking to engineer some kind of comeback then damn right we’ll take an extra point early in the 3rd quarter. Put Dixon out on the field then we’ll take knees.
Fair point
Contrary to popular belief, coaches don’t have plays they call because they will fail. They call the plays, the offense executes them, the defense stops them. It’s as simple as that.
Baltimore gained nothing by the fake, except putting it on film for the rest of the league to see. They didn’t need the points, but the felt like they did, so they ran it. It’s a strategic move, and every coach has a few of those plays they’ll only run once a season – if at all.
To Harbaugh’s credit, what he’s thinking is he’s seen Roethlisberger throw three touchdown passes in a half before, and that, along with one 2-point conversion, meant a tie game. It wasn’t over yet.
Plus, I’m gonna bet he spent the entire off-season wondering if their second-half game-plan in the playoffs last year somehow slowed them down, causing the Steelers’ comeback. I bet he thought about being in that position again, and how he’d do all he could to step on their throats and end the game, like champions do.
He coached like a champion should coach. Good for him.
Baltimore kicked the tar out of the Steelers, and deserved the monster victory. Class has nothing to do with it.
by Neal Coolong on Sep 12, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That call stops teams from overloading the line and looking to block out extra point kicks.
The Steelers were lined up to block, by having tape of us shredding that formation for a 2 pt conversion we stop other teams from trying it and make them play conservatively.
Even if it had failed it would be important to establish that we are willing to do that so other team’s can’t try that crap on us. Last year against the Dolphins Koch completed a first down pass on an audibled fake punt after he saw the Dolphins leaving Cary Williams without coverage. No team tried that again.
as U should!!
I am not complaining! BB should have been taken out of the game not to risk a dumb injury
A man is innocent untill proven guilty...Even if it's Ben Roethlisberger!
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by nycsteelerfan on Sep 12, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
We should organize a BTSC vs. Baltimore BeatOff Softball game
OR a touch football game.
That would be epic. I would play because I am cool.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 12, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
None of them are fast enough to cover me
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
or strong enought to keep me from the quarterback
But man it would be fun.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 12, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
and I would show NO class in victory.
and less in defeat!
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 12, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Where would this hypothetical game take place?
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Somewhere between the 'Burgh and Baltimore would be good.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 12, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Possible spots
Williamsburg, PA… Harrisburg, PA.. Silver Springs MD… or a home game series in Pittsburgh and Baltimore
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
i will fly from colorado to make this game...
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by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that is dedication!
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Silver Spring is good.
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 13, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
thats about a 5 hour ride from me.
I’m game
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
PG County
Suitland High. I know that place well. My old stomping grounds.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I am down
so is this game tackle or flag, because we all know, 2 hand touch will turn into tackle anyway…
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm in for either
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 13, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Tackle of course
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by PixburghArn on Sep 13, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Just thinking about it I already can't move for a week... LOL
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Who are you tellin?
I just got my hamstring back from playing tackle with some local college dudes.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 13, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice!
God, the wife would be pissed!
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
she was!
She wouldn’t rub it out. :(
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
LMMFAO!
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
pity
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Not possible, too many Steeler fans aren’t in this area.
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
I think Malor already beats off enough as is.
by shleeve on Sep 12, 2011 5:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll make the drive
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 13, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
B.
for this game to happen man, i am pretty sure we can get “enough” of BTSC’s finest to show face and rep the steelers squad.
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
count me in...
flag football or two hand touch…unless we fine a nice grass field to play on for some tackle football!
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
LEt's make it happen.
But how?
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 13, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we at least
have some Steeler cheerleaders? steeler fever loves the cheerleaders!
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Talk the Redskins Cheerleaders or Tampa cheerleaders
into coming up and I’m with you.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
well
I am not sure whether I could talk em into coming to the game or not, BUT I sure would have fun trying : ) I have alway been kinda partial to the Miami Dolphins cheerleaders. Hell thats the only reason I stayed tuned into the game last night. Pretty sad when you are willing to listen to all the pretty boy love by the announcers for an occasional glimpse of a cheerleader! Been nice if the Dolphin players had given more to cheer about!
by steeler fever on Sep 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes Dolphins too
They cheat though, they have Cubans everywhere adn they have South Beach to choose from
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
now you know the reason why i have such a "crush" on the city of Miami Arn...lol.
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
doh!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
+1 hahahahaha!
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear J-Lo is available
and she has been very quiet since marrying Marc Anthony, you know she is ready to let the Freak back outta the cage!
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Man don't tempt me
I’d risk a security beat down to get with her…..if I wasn’t married of course
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I told the wife a long time ago
J-Lo, Salma Hayek, or Roselyn Sanchez looks at me twice, I will see her the next day…
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
J-Lo, Eva Mendes, Stacey Dash & Gina Davis
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I will spot your Gina Davis
with Gina Gershon. I have to keep it simple and understandable for the Mrs. can’t use women she doesn’t recognize. Otherwise Stacey and Lela Rochon are on the list too.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Gina got me in "A long Kiss Goodnight"
She was bad….I like that
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I do love that movie
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
my dream woman
katy perry or carrie underwood
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
I had to mute the sound
I couldn’t take the constant fawning over Brady. It made me think of the Chuck Norris jokes only replaced with Tom Brady.
by thefirst3peat on Sep 13, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting reaction to the Ike-oher brawl.
Phil “retard” sims, wtf? After only the steelers are penalized for that scuffle, sims praises the refs for not punishing the ravens for their retaliation. It’s always been league policy to punish an offender no matter who started it, and yet sims rejoiced.
How biased was his announcing that whole game? He literally praised flacco for the accuracy of his 5 yard dump pass.
Sirry
by shleeve on Sep 12, 2011 5:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sims used to love anything Tom Brady
Now he just loves him anything NOT Ben.
the only thing worse than getting your ass beat by your worst rival on national TV
is whining and making excuses about it. That performance was shameful and being a bitch only adds to the shame. That said I’m more of a Mike Frazer than a worldtrip. I struggle to deal with stuff like this on Mondays. It was embarrassing.
The jets fan in the office was gleeful about the results from yesterday. Just gleeful. So he got a picture of Ben and Mendy hoisting the Lamar Hunt Trophy in his e-mail. That’s how it goes.
Since the Steelers won after being down 7-21 at the half in January, it’s foolish to chide the ravens’ coach for wanting to be at 29-7 instead of 28-7 when he had the chance. This is one game where running up the score was a no-brainer. Hell I wasn’t even worried until that happened.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
this was a good post malor
you are the freaking Pittsburgh Steelers, act like it. Don’t be a Bungle right now.
That was a good game from the ravens but remember you only get one win from it. Well two actually since it’s a division game. Plus knocking out Willie Colon for another season.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Appreciate it. Was this a humbling game for you?
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
You've already read my post and I'm not going to provide you with any additional gratification.
I don’t think anything that happens on week one would be humbling for me especially since I don’t recall making any predictions about the 2011 season.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
speaking of which...
B, give me your e-mail address, the HDM is up tomorrow.
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by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you want that hidden?
I can send the address through my email to him.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
i would hide that Arn...thanks B.
i got your e-mail, i sent you the “poast”.
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It will hide/delete the whole thread....
I think Johnny has more features. or is that now “John”?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
d'oh!
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by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok Johnny it is
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i like johnny_s, was sad to see it go
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by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You're still johnny_s
I remember the purple picture with you wearing shades
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I stopped doing my picture because I got annoyed with trolls sending me emails
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by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I can dig it
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by PixburghArn on Sep 15, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Now I know what address to use for those automatic weekly gay porn updates
You’re welcome
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 13, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
how is adding 1 additional point running up the score?
29-7 is no worse than 28-7 the way we were playing. They could’ve taken a knee on the PAT attempt and it wouldn’t have mattered.
I wouldn't do that
I’d take the points
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I know you have already retracted what you stated in this post
But just to help the cause a bit more regarding running up the score.
After the Ravens went up 29-7, we played rookie WR’s Torrey Smith and Laquan Williams along with RB Ricky Williams and 2nd string TE Dennis Pitta in 21 of their final 34 snaps. So we took out our stud playmakers that were killing you all day, and put in the backups to close out the game.
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
sure a lot discussin
so, scoring is ok, right?
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
Raven Fan
“Case in point: with the score already a lopsided 27-7 early in the third, Harbaugh called for a fake kick, instead scoring an unneeded two points and making the game 29-7. Okay, you could argue that a comeback was still possible, but it started the ball rolling.”
As a Ravens fan, the key to this paragraph is the last sentence;“it started the ball rolling”
From my perspective, the Ravens needed not only to win this game, but to win it with every aspect of the team and in as bold a way as possible. All of you Steelers fans know what our weaknesses have been especially our inability to play 60 minutes of football. Last season, we would gain a lead (not just in a Balt/Pitt game) and them seem to just have a lull usually in the third quater. This game was about showing a fresh bold face of THIS Ravens team that looks very different from what us frustrated Ravens fans have seen in recent years past. Surely no one can argue that the new O’ line is a pleasure to watch as a protected QB can do alot more than one that has been running for his life on most plays for the last three years and still managed to put up pretty good numbers and give us a pretty good record. It was just nice to see him be able to work from the pocket on more than 60 percent of the plays for once.
With all the shakeups to the roster, and re-arrangement of coaching, frankly I was concerned about how we would fare especially against the Steelers. Us Raven fans were upset at first about getting rid of some familiar faces. Todd Heap was a mainstay in Baltimore. But after seeing how complete this team looks in a night and day fashion compared to seasons past, it just showed me that Ozzie and company know that the business of football is about winning football games. and the chosen personell should be solely about that. Surely a Pittsburgh fan would understand that very well. I’m just glad that our FO is finally showing us that too and I should have never doubted the moves.
In conclusion, i can see where from a Steelers perspective, that a fan would think it unclassy to run up the score the way we did. But this was about something bigger than that for a Ravens fan; namely, that THIS Ravens team has a new face, that we Can play 60 minutes, that we CAN fight when we’re up and when we’re down, just like the Steelers can.
All of this back and forth fan hate is all good and fine. Steeler’s week in Baltimore is quite a spectacular event and I know that later in the year, when we come there, your wounds will have been licked, and you will be ready to play. That’s why I don’t hate the Steelers, I Love the Steelers. I love the great football that you guys give us. I can’t imagine this rivalry not existing (and btw according to your own team we can now call it a rivalry) What a boring division we would be in without the Steelers. It would be a cake walk for us in most years (nothing against the Ohio teams).
So I say to Steelers fans, “thank you! thank you for teaching us. thank you for the great football that you give us! and that I hope you guys play as hard as you can when we meet you in Pittsburgh!”
As a fan of not just the Ravens, but of football, what could be better than that?
Good post
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Ravens Fan
Oh and and BTW, I don’t have a doubt in my mind that you guys will be back, and ready!
excessive whining
When I was a kid the Steelers were my favorite team with the likes of mean joe ,franco,swann,terry..etc.But I’m a RAVENS fan now and to hear you all crying about running up the score after us blowing a big lead to you last year…I feel a little embarrassed for steeler nation,even the, “dirtiest offensive dancer—whoops-player” was crying,“he won’t forget” good! we don’t forget either..good luck vs.seattle
by Larry Warren Durrer on Sep 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
How do you go from Steelers fan to Ravens fan?
That doesn’t even make sense.
It’s like going from the Ritz hotel to Holiday Inn.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Sep 13, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Motel 6
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
+1
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
They left the light on for him
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahahaha!
red roof inn’s are pretty bad at least around the monument area in colorado…lol.
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
ok cool...haha!
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yopu should see the Knights Inns here
Wow! Red carpet and damp smell. This dude stayed at one TDY. I was like…..why?!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
hahaha!
i couldn’t even imagine that…the “Super 8” here right off of base is like that with mildew and asbestos i believe, they freaking condemned it like 3 weeks ago lol.
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Do they charge by the hour?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I feel so dirty...
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Sep 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Larry Warren Durrer
If that is your name……You suck as a fan. The Ravens can have ya! And MD STEELER FAN, I did give the reasonable fans an opportunity to reply. He shouldn’t have mentioned my childhood heroes in his lame comment! Nuff said. I don’t imagine this dipwad would talk his smack to Hines face. Damn punk turncoat. I couldn’t imagine turning my back on my childhood team and then talking smack about em. PUNK!
by steeler fever on Sep 14, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the use of Turncoat...
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 14, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
"When I was a kid the Steelers were my favorite team with the likes of mean joe ,franco,swann,terry..etc.But I’m a RAVENS fan now"
you’re the worst kind of scum
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
LWD - Fairweather fan
We can’t say that you were a displaced Colts fan looking for a team, because you are talking about the Steelers players of the 70’s, and the Colts left B-more in ’83. So you are simply (as one of my esteemed colleges put it) a Turncoat. No one here cares what you have to say, we would much rather hear from MaLoR – at least he is a genuine fan.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 14, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Either or...
Without a doubt there’s no justification for cheapshots. Classlessness or running up the score is debatable. The Ravens clearly wanted a ‘statement game’ against the Black & Gold, and they pounded it out. Rubbing the Steelers’ noses in it only made another statement: “We don’t sweat you or your injured feelings. Get used to losing when you play us and seeing us score because it’ll be that way for years whether you like it or not.”
Trash talk, cheap shots, self-promoting prancing…it’s all part & parcel with the new social paradigm. Personally, I thought it was idiotic 1) for Ward to boast he had a special dance prepared for when he scored against the Ravens, 2) for Woodley to make his “not in my lifetime” quote, 3) for Hampton to claim the ‘Ravens’ needed to talk trash to convince themselves they could compete with the Steelers. (Hmmm. I wonder if Casey would like to rephrase that.)
The sad reality is the Ravens came to play and brought a paddle.
The bottom line is this: Are too many Steelers too far past their prime to maintain the standard, or was this a one-game aberration because virtually the whole team didn’t show up for the season ready mentally to play? If the latter, why not?
On a side note, the team added more speed to the practice squad in Dorin Dickerson. I hope he can block defensive tackles and linebackers.
Let us not forget Clark saying the Ravens weren't even a rivalry...
You can only throw so much fuel on the fire before you get an explosion.
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 13, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ravens Fan Here
Good point MDSTEELERSFAN. I had another point too; I don’t totally disagree with the decision to fake the extra point for a two point conversion except that I was listening to a Baltimore sports radio show today, and the host made the point that we train to take the opportunity if one side becomes totally open and in this case it did. It’s actually a good play in that regard. The only thing I disagree with in that play was that we showed that hand early on and maybe unnecessarily, when that play could come in handy later on in the season in a critical situation. Now people are going to be looking for it much like that Stallworth end-around that we executed sucessfully the first time we tried it last season. Since then, it hasn’t worked once!
Good Luck with Seattle next week.
Good points MDSteelersFan and 88Keys
You’re right; I forgot about the ‘rivalry that ain’t.’ Like you, 88, my first thought as the punter strolled into the end zone was “Why reveal this in a game that’s clearly out-of-hand?” Your observation re the end around with Stallworth reminds me of our quick, naked tosses to wide receivers. Santonio Holmes took one to the house and turned a few more into big gains. Since then they generally pick up a few yards, get stuffed, or lose yardage. Oh well. Enjoy your season!
Hey, PixburghArn
that’s sweet, we both like Pittsburgh teams, and the Spurs…what are the odds?
The odds aren't very good lol
but Go Spurs! I’m headed down to San Antonio twice in the next two months. I’ll maybe catch a game my second trip.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
i would love to go down there
unfortunately, i only have the chance to catch them live the one time a year they come to Detroit, since i live about 30 minutes away. But still, one is better than none, and my friend is a huge Pistons fan, so we make an event out of it.
I'm headed up that way next week
I’m going to Livonia for a class
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
weird you mention that
I don’t live in Michigan,(Toledo area) but my aunt and nephew live in Livonia (my whole family is from various places in the Detroit area, step dad from the Pittsburgh area, he liked football, my mom didn’t)
i’m curious as to what part of the town you are going to be in.
it’s really a nice place (except for like two neighborhoods..they don’t take up that much space)
great
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by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Sep 13, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
"The standard is the standard" - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 14, 2011 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I never have and never will subscribe to the unwritten rule about "piling it on"
Both teams are professionals – when you get someone down then put the boots to em I say. I can see pulling starters to be sure you don’t get stupid injuries during garbage time, but if any team is getting thumped then the solution is for them to stand up and do something about it. It’s up to them to stop the other team, not some unwritten mercy rule. We got every bit of the butt whipping we deserved. It’s a shit sandwich – we’re not supposed to enjoy it.
These teams hate each other. If either one gets the chance to stomp the others guts out then I’d expect them to do it with smiles on their faces. Personally – I thought we showed little class in defeat. Going through most of the game sleep walking. Woodley for all of his off season talk never did show up, along with most of the defense. I half expected the offense to struggle against the Ravens, but I never expect our defense to get pushed around like that by anybody.
Yay! 300+ comments!
A small reward for the thrashing I threw myself into with this post :)
I'm not trying to imply anything here
but some of the worse poasts ever have had over 1,000 comments.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
that's
because waving is fun
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Sep 15, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That's true
been a while since we had one
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 15, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
you messed it up
That was supposed to rhyme then it flies
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 15, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
In the
bright blue skies
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Sep 15, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess ky miles makes sense
should I go back and rhyme with skies or miles …oh the trials
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Did the Pirates trade Brian Giles?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 15, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The Raven stank like steamin piles
congrats Simonsen
by steeler fever on Sep 16, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish I had a seat
I’d wave my towel down the isles
:(
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I'm staring
at the cieling tiles
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Sep 16, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Like a hooker
with a john named Niles
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
the motel
is so old the TV has dials
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Sep 20, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
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