Steelers Reportedly Lose OT Willie Colon To Triceps Injury
by Michael Bean on Sep 12, 2011 2:43 PM EDT
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PrintEditor's Note: Remember the word 'Reportedly' in this headline. This report has not yet been substantiated yet by the Steelers or by any of the city's prominent media outlets. Hopefully this is incorrect, and if so, I'll be relieved and reminded of the dangers of running with unverified stories. We'll see.
Editor's Note No. 2: And there we have it: Ed Bouchette confirms Willie Colon does in fact have a torn triceps. Unfortunate news for both Colon and the Steelers.
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Steeler Nation is still reeling from Pittsburgh's lopsided Week 1 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, and to make matters worse, it looks as if the injury bug has bitten. Adam Caplan is reporting that offensive tackle Willie Colon suffered a tricpes injury during the 35-7 loss to Baltimore.
If the injury is significant, and the early indication is that it is, the Steelers could re-sign veteran OT Flozell Adams, who started 16 games last season for team last season when replacing Colon, who missed all of 2010 with an Achilles tendon injury.
Yikes. Not the fact that the Steelers might have to turn to Adams once again, that's not scary at all necessarily. But it's certainly unfortunate and disheartening (if true) that Colon will miss extended time again in 2011 after missing all of last season with an Achilles heel injury. Hopefully the injury is not to Colon's triceps muscle, as we know all too well how debilitating those can be. Aaron Smith suffered a similar injury during last year's win over the Miami Dolphins, and was unable to fully recover for the remainder of the season and playoffs.
Chris Scott is listed as Colon's backup at right tackle; there's also Marcus Gilbert and Trai Essex who could fill Colon's shoes. But suffice it to say, the Steelers would need to add a body to the active roster, and it's not very likely that they're ready to bring Trevis Turner off the practice squad just yet. Instead, it looks like Adams or perhaps Max Starks might get the call from Kevin Colbert sometime today if Caplan's report is in fact true.
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Late in the fourth on a fumble
He ended up near the bottom of the pile
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
"on a fumble"
You may have to narrow it down a little.
by foremania on Sep 12, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
lol
What I read wasn’t more specific. Probably the Moore fumble.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I’m laughing and crying at the same time…
by Neal Coolong on Sep 12, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Awful news
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While I do not wish injury on anyone
Does this give us the opportunity to become better? Our line was WAY too porous yesterday – Ben has plenty of weapons, doesn’t matter if he doesn’t have time to throw. I love Legs, but I think I have to admit, he isn’t a starter. Colon didn’t look horrible, but didn’t look good either. Man am I disappointed today. :-(
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This does not help us. I’m waiting for PFF’s analysis to come out. But I actually thought Colon played well yesterday.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
John
What website can you find the PFF’s analysis?
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well i'm broke so keep me posted - lol
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I will put a lot of it in my stat posts too
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he was in midseason form with two penalties.
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by Black&GoldTrain on Sep 12, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta go with the Hotel
It worked last year.
by indianasteelers on Sep 12, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Marcus Gilbert
I see this as a lost year for the Steelers. They’re gonna go 8-8. They always go 8-8 after they go to a Super Bowl. Put Gilbert in there, get him comfortable playing at the NFL level. Adams might be a little better overall, and now that he’s another year older, he might not be. Gilbert would certainly be a better pass protector than Flozell.
Essex doesn’t strike me as a viable option. He lacks the physical strength to play on the right side, as he demonstrated last year at RG. Ditto for Jonathan Scott. Chris Scott did nothing to impress me in the pre-season, and I see him as more of a guard than a tackle anyway. Gilbert is definitely a tackle, and he definitely has talent that’s worth trying to develop.
by Dread Pirate Roberts on Sep 12, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
Don’t sleep on Gilbert. Ask any of the Ravens fans around here, we will all tell you how much we liked Gilbert coming out of UF this year. He could be a quiet surprise for you all.
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by nycsteelerfan on Sep 12, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He was horrible in the preseason?
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Was he?
Falcons 86% success rate (highest on team)
Eagles 87% (behind Pouncey and Colon with 93)
Redskins 95%
Those are pretty good for a rookie, especially the spot “start” against the Eagles.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
In both the Eagles and Falcons game he played considerable time with the 1s.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose I can’t pass judgement considering his good PFF numbers.
He just didn’t pass my eyeball test for whatever that is worth.
Results of my “He Doesn’t Suck” test were inconclusive…for what that’s worth.
by Neal Coolong on Sep 12, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
What better time to see what he’s got. If he is going to be the LT of the future why not start now at RT.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
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I don't know if this is serious...
Tomlin didn’t mention it in post game and I can’t find it on any major sports site. I don’t know how major it is but I would bring i Starks at RT if it is serious instead of Adams. Why bring in a 36 year old tackle who has had injury problems of his own to replace an injured guy? Not saying Adams didn’t do good last year though.
i hear you
But why is bringing a 36 year old any worse than brining in a soon-to-be 30 year old if one can play at a higher level than the other? I don’t think either is a long-term solution, so I’d just assume they bring back the guy they can help win in 2011 and 2011 only.
If the report is in fact true.
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by Michael Bean on Sep 12, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
More than anything else
It’s about two things: 1. How well does he know the offense? You’re bringing in a starter, otherwise you deal with in-house. 2. What kind of shape is he in? Obviously he doesn’t have time to play his way into regular season shape.
by Neal Coolong on Sep 12, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
This is just great
But such is the case with the NFL. At least we’re not the Chiefs right now.
I wonder do they put Essex at RT or Gilbert? And if a change is made at RG is it going to be Foster or Chris Scott? Knowing Tomlin, he’ll probably go with Essex at RG and Gilbert at RT.
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Tough break but bring back Flozell.
He might be a bit long in the tooth, but he’s durable and he knows our system.
Guess it was all that holding he did on Cory Redding yesterday that tore the muscle.
Sorry for the loss, he is one of the best OL in the league that no one talks about. I saw those stats posted here a while ago.
Should have signed Oneil Cousins from us!!!
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Cousins could be a lead-horse for Woodley in practice. Wood loved kicking the tar out of that guy…He’s in Cleveland now, isn’t he?
by Neal Coolong on Sep 12, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
or Gaither!
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Flozell
Did a great job last year I thought. I am sure he probably did, but I can’t remember a single holding call he had. I imagine hes gonna want big bucks and not sure we can afford him at this point!
we can but we may have to give him like a $4.5mm signing bonus with a 3 year contract
or something crazy like that. he wanted $5mm guaranteed and he refused to take less. so now that we may be desperate not sure if he comes down in price?
if the inury is only a couple of games it helps....
cuz now we bring flozell back and move colon to guard
Fan for bringing back Flozell too but.....
Do any of us here at BTSC know if he is game ready? Has he kept himself in shape? Can we just automatically assume that without any preseason work that Flozell is auto insert right into the line? I fear that’s an awfully big assumption.
Starks would be my 2nd choice but not really sure if he is in shape either.
And what if they choose to do neither of the above and put Gilbert on the left and move Scott to the right?
Not sure I’m fond of any of this suck-ass situation. Hope you get well soon Colon.
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Indeed
There goes their best player…it’s a shame, Berry is one of the future stars at the position.
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by lottwasgangsta on Sep 12, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ravens Jimmy Smith high ankle sprain
Remember what that type of injury did to Timmons…
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Yeah
Like…forever. He was never even close to the same again, and he was awesome in 2001.
by pistil_stamen on Sep 13, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, that sucked yesterday. Amazed that we held down your WR with only 3 CB’’s playing. Carr left as well at one point with a hamstring injury.
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I was surprised we didn't run more
till you ran out of CBs then we could have passed all day. As it was, we went to 5 wide too soon and too often.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 13, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Tony Hills?
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by syracusepittfan on Sep 12, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
Wasn't he signed right after we dropped him?
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 12, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit
I am not trying to JUST be negative, but this really is the conondrum the Steelers find themselves in for trying to go cheap on the offensive line for MOST of the past several years (discounting Pouncey).
They need to acquire some long-term solution to their tackle positions in the next few drafts. The revolving door they’ve had since the ’08 season has been a bit ridiculous.
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How about a trade?
Legursky for Chilo Rachel, straight up.
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by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The difference is
Rachal can run block. It looked like Legs was having trouble shoving ANYONE out of the way yesterday. Chilo does, however, whiff beautifully on pass protection- it’s like 320 lb man ballet.
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by lottwasgangsta on Sep 12, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
At least he is a starter
I have been saying all along that Legs is a backup and shouldn’t start over a guy (Foster) that played pretty well last year at times. He’s too small to be a RG.
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by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Legs
Gotta hand it to him for that uncanny turnstile impression on the first play of the second half yesterday.
by pistil_stamen on Sep 13, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
It was convincing
And I’m with stonecoldsteel; he’s a good story, but Legursky’s not a starter in this league, and Sunday and Ngata showed why…
Maybe we can move Redman to guard.
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by lottwasgangsta on Sep 13, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
we did
spend a second round draft pick on a tackle in the past draft.
by steeler fever on Sep 12, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd give Max Starks a chance ...
I have too many memories of Suggs just running around Flozell like his feet were glued to the ground. And if Suggs is killing you EVERY game and you have to play the Ravens 2 or 3 times a year, do you think that they could design a gameplane to maybe have someone else beat you and not let him do it?
by datruth4life2.0 on Sep 12, 2011 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
We should have kept Heath Miller in to block more, sure it limits our passing game, but it at least gives a more stable pocket for Ben to throw from
Bruce Arians is not aware that tight ends can be used to block in the passing game.
by pistil_stamen on Sep 13, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
What is up with Aaron Smith?
Zero tackles in preseason & just 1 assist against the Ravens. Seemed nowhere near the action against Ravens.
Time to turn it over to Ziggy ...
Aaron Smith has shown me nothing this year to say that he should be starting or playing significant snaps. He looks done to me.
by datruth4life2.0 on Sep 12, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaron has been very unimpressive so far
But I doubt the staff would bench him in favor of Ziggy. You know how Tomlin loves his vets.
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by StoneColdSteel on Sep 12, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Chris Scott.
I saw nothing from that guy in the limited action he had that would indicate he’s ready to be thrown into the lion’s den.
by Craig Sager's Wardrobe on Sep 12, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
After yesterday’s game I say sign Starks and flozell. Starks is still better then scott. We need some major line help.
by shleeve on Sep 12, 2011 5:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agree with that
We can’t go a full season with this joke of a line.
we need cap space to start hiring a bunch of vets.
They will not accept league minimum.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 13, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I have not seen this news being reported anywhere else
Not on Steelers.com, not by Lolly on his twitter, not by anyone. Hopefully this was a false rumor and maybe we will find out more soon
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by seton hall and steelers on Sep 12, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions
Tweet from Schefter
Steelers projected to be about $25 million over 2012 salary cap; nothing new – have headed into off-season over the cap the past seven years
That is an absurd amount of $ to be over the cap especially when we might have to improve a lot of positions after this year due to age
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by seton hall and steelers on Sep 12, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions
I really think Harrison might be gone after this year. Bring in a younger option.
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by John Stephens on Sep 12, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
in case you're wondering
people have been suspecting that since right after the back surgeries in the offseason. Not as knee-jerk as you think
I think
you can add Smith and Farrior to that, possibly BMac and Gay (hoping the young’uns step up), possibly Keisel (wouldn’t bet on it), and maybe even Ward.
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by stillergorillar on Sep 14, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
but cap will rise maybe as much as $10mm
direct tv is in for $300mm next year and met life signed on for naming rights of $18mm this year, maybe cowboys will help out too, they should be able to get $40mm from some rich oil or gas company.
$300mm in direct tv revenue equals $4.3mm in increased cap space per team. so unless other projected revenue like ticket & NFL merchandise go down (highly unlikely) there should be no way cap goes up less than $8-9mm next year.
my bad $300mm direct tv increase should already be in this year's cap calculation
maybe the cap is closer to $128mm next year but either way 2012 should not be same cap as 2011.
havent heard this confirmed
every source for NFL news I’ve seen has mentioned nothing on this.
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something from post gazette, to corroborate
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Not a fan of putting in Gilbert, but I'm not usually a fan of putting in Rookie OL
Unless they show something huge. I’d lean towards Starks personally
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Sep 12, 2011 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
Move Jon Scott
Jon Scott is a serviceable, but not a superstar, tackle. Gilbert definitely shows a higher upside. I agree with those who say this is a good chance to get the rookie some snaps. However, the coaches had tried moving Gilbert back over to the right side, to cover an injury loss in a preseason game, and he did not look good. I say move Jon Scott over to RT, letting Gilbert play LT (at least against Seattle), and let C.Scott be the primary Tackle backup, Foster be primary Guard reserve, and Essex the swing man who backs up all 5 slots.
by SteelCityRoller on Sep 12, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions
...and
Move Trevis Turner up from the PS, instead of bringing in a FA. If the guy is worth retaining, he’s worth moving up into the varsity, when you need him. That’s kinda why you kept him on the PS, right? Keep him hatless on gamedays, but at least he gets to work with the active crews in practice; making him a viable option, should injury strike again.
by SteelCityRoller on Sep 12, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
good point
We have a couple of games to see if Gilbert can do it…get him some snaps and see what the kid can do.
How is Scott's run blocking
I thought pass blocking was his strength?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 13, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
who was the other Cowboys linemen that was cut? What position did he play?
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 12, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
Kiesel had his best year of his career last year. Now after one game he should be released. Harrison was deserving of defensive player of the year. Why don’t you just relax and watch how things play out.
by worldtrip on Sep 12, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it will be closet to $15mm once they do the true-up in january
there are many moving parts here.
Well thats not correct math
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by StoneColdSteel on Sep 13, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
this
we don’t know what next years cap is yet, they would be 25mm over if it didn’t change from this year. Plus there are people that will retire or be let go. There is absolutely no way to say were the Steelers will stand Cap wise next year. and how do you release Snack without a replacement?
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by stillergorillar on Sep 14, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
So
Who is going to play nose tackle? Steve McClendon? Do you enjoy watching Ray Rice run for 200 yards?
by pistil_stamen on Sep 13, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
* "true-up" is when they figure out the cap for next year.
we are currently $25mm over the 2011 cap, not the 2012 cap so this is misleading and makes little sense to report until we know the 2012 cap number which obviously has to be decided before first day of 2012 league year (usually march 1st).
On getting beat up by the Ravens , year after year
Should play the B team if they are not ready. Get ready on the rest of the schedule. If Colon is the only casualty, we are lucky.
Right side of line
This injury to Colon plus the fact than no one stepped up to win the RG job means that the right side of our line could struggle badly for the rest of the season. For a team that likes running the ball to the right, this is is huge blow. Of course, the pass defense was poor on Sunday, and may only get worse now.
Early reports indicate that nothing is imminent with Flozell. He probably wants too much money. They should give Gilbert a chance to play at RT on Sunday vs. Seattle.
Hopefully, they can take advantage of a weak schedule and make the playoffs, but it is only 9/13/11 and I am already deeply concerned.
Doug Legursky is a bad player.
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