Steelers RG Doug Legursky Fined For Clip Against Seahawks

by Neal Coolong on Sep 22, 2011 3:31 PM EDT

In yet another week of multiple fines, Steelers RG Doug Legursky was issued a $10,000 fine for a clip during Pittsburgh's 24-0 win over Seattle in Week 2.

Mark Kaboly of the Tribune-Review Tweeted the news Thursday afternoon.

Legursky hit Seahawks LB Al Woods in the back in the third quarter. The play was given a 15 yard personal foul penalty. It came after a nice pass-and-catch to RB Rashard Mendenhall, who had cut back just as Legursky was coming in to block Woods. Legursky led with his shoulder low into Woods. It appears Legursky was lining up to hit Woods on the side, but Legursky failed to change his aim in time.

It looked more like poor technique than dirty play.

Legursky is the second Steeler to receive a fine this year, and it's the second consecutive week the league has issued fines for Steelers players as well as their opponent. After Week 1, Troy Polamalu and Brandon Ayanbadejo were both fined $15,000 for horse collar tackles, and reported earlier today, DE Raheem Brock of the Seahawks was fined for a low hit on Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger.

Scott Brown of the Tribune-Review reported Legursky plans to appeal the fine.

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Ridiculous.

Double ridiculous.

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by Fifty-Eight on Sep 22, 2011 3:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Ummmm...

You mean, the exact sama amount as a deliberately thrown punch at another player after a play is over? Interesting.

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by Fifty-Eight on Sep 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

N.F.L.

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by Fifty-Eight on Sep 22, 2011 3:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

N.F.L.

…stands for “Nebulous Fine League.”

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by Fifty-Eight on Sep 22, 2011 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

or

Nonsensical Fine Levies

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by Rebecca Rollett on Sep 22, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions

No Fine Limit

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Sep 22, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Negative Fine Lust

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions

I think I’m gonna be sick

by blitzzburgh on Sep 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Unbelievable

The big wigs are handing out fines like a bunch of petty cops hand out parking tickets at a parade. First, there is no rhyme or reason to the amount each player is fined. Punch = $10k. Illegal block = $10k. Worse, I think, is they are now also fining for everyday penalties that have been called for years. What other sport league does that?

I would only support this madness if the money was used to support the under-fed and dehydrated tailgaters fund.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by L-Ray on Sep 22, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions

I second this!

I would only support this madness if the money was used to support the under-fed and dehydrated tailgaters fund.

Having been to just 2 tail gates in my life, I can heartily attest to the underfed issue! Drinks may have been plenty, but hardy any food in sight after 10 AM in the Jets tailgate parties.

by SteelersVT on Sep 23, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions

This just in...

Next week, look for an O-lineman to be fined for a holding penalty that MIGHThave kept a defensive player from hitting a QB illegally thus resulting in a fine.

Is the comish’s office broke? (financially, I mean. It’s obvious it’s “broke”)

by Larrybob8187 on Sep 22, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

Rec'd

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I have never been one to subscribe to the No Fun League thought process

but with these constant fines, they are headed that way in a hurry. Pretty soon the players are going to have lawyers on the field.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Goodell will Fine

Harrison’s lawer first!

by Larrybob8187 on Sep 22, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions

lawYer

by Larrybob8187 on Sep 22, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions

at what point did we move from flags to fines?

the fines are really out of hand, let the refs do their jobs and fine egregious fouls. if all these are egregious, then what sort have I been watching all these years – the only play this year that deserved a fine was the Dunta Robinson hit and the Raven’s Steelers fight – they didn’t fine for the fighting…

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

+1

From this point forward…

Game day threads will have their vocabulary adjusted to replace all instances of “flag” with the word “fine”. As in, “That’ll come back: there’s a fine in the grass.” Or, “That fine was thrown late.”

Refs shall be known as “adjusters”.

Worthless threads will no longer get waved. Instead, they shall get F-I-N-E-D in the typical cascading fashion. Reply fails in a FINED thread will result in immediate suspension from the next FINED thread.

No matter what Goodell says/threatens with his next public pronouncement, we’re all fined with it.

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by Varmint on Sep 22, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I will look up the play later tonight

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by John Stephens on Sep 22, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions

It's a legit bad play, but Fineable? Not sure it was to that point.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

uh...

this was absolutely deserved.

by Josh Evans on Sep 22, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

Do tell

by Larrybob8187 on Sep 22, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions

the clipping was clear as day. We can’t be hypocrites and complain about the Ravens and their dirty tactics while we get away with it. Legursky is trash. We need a starting RG.

by Josh Evans on Sep 22, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Still doesn't warrent a fine

in my opinion. The second dive at Ben was, or at least appeared to be, flagrant.

by Larrybob8187 on Sep 22, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

There is a big difference between what the Ravens did and what happened here. The Ravens blocking scheme was designed to block like that. Legs just makes a poor decision here that he wasn’t coached to do.

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by John Stephens on Sep 22, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Legursky is Trash?

WTF is that all about?

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions

His play so far this year has been

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by John Stephens on Sep 22, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Not that I agree 100% but - okay, so say that

what’s with the personal attack?

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

exactly MD

Whats up with calling somebody you don’t even know trash. I bet you wouldn’t call Legursky trash to his face! As far as personal attacks go, from the above comment and the below comment, Josh Evans seems like a PUNK to me!

by steeler fever on Sep 22, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Josh is right, we can’t complain about fines if we honestly think this wasn’t pretty blatant. I don’t think his intent was to hit him the way he did but he also made no effort at all to stop himself. Sloppy, dangerous and preventable.

by Neal Coolong on Sep 22, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Yea but when did standard 15 yard penalties turn into fines

Last year you only got fined for head to head hits or very late hits on the QB. This year, it is for clippings, and random shit when people throwing punches are getting similar fines. It is bullshit.

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by seton hall and steelers on Sep 22, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Last year you only got fined for head to head hits or very late hits on the QB.

or your name was James Harrison

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Sep 22, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Why, because the commentators went on and on about it?

after pretty much ignoring the 2 shots at Ben’s knee’s? Legursky got flagged, the player wasn’t hurt, what’s with the fine?

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

what do you mean ignoring? The guy that went at Ben’s knees got fined as well. Legursky deserved the fine. I hope the refs fine him out of the league. He sucks.

by Josh Evans on Sep 22, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Commentators...

Can you read? the guy that went at Ben’s knees didn’t deserve a fine either, not everything is worth a fine. Legursky needs to get fined out of the league? By the Refs no less? What are you talking about? are you 12?

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

There was someone else that went after Ben's knees

later in the game. It appeared as though that player actually lunged to wrap up Ben below the knees

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Sep 22, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions

They both looked that way to me

I know the guy was tripped on the first one, but if you go back and look at it again, he was not falling down, he stretched out to reach that knee.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions

I just rewatched it and it was definitely not fine worthy. He deserved the flag for sure, but the hit was not that hard. Legs was trying to get him in the side, but the guy got in front of him as he was diving. Legs even pulled off a bit, but it was too late.

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by John Stephens on Sep 22, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions

This is exactly the problem

What do you mean it’s “definitely not fine-worthy”? That’s a completely subjective statement based on preference, and considering the league is the organization doling out the fines, and they said it’s worthy of a fine, I’d have to disagree with you.

The root issue here isn’t whether we feel something should or should not be fined. It’s that we CANNOT DETERMINE whether something should or shouldn’t be fined. With the amount of fines the NFL has given out in just the last 14 weeks of regular season play, any standard of measurement by which the league or even the fans used to use is gone. Since I can’t find a reliable source of info to confirm this, I can’t state it as fact, but I have never heard of anything being fined anything at all for a horse collar tackle. We’ve had, what, three of them already this year?

If anything, we should simply expect fines to come on at least any personal foul calls. I’m surprised C. Brown didn’t get fined for shoving the Seahawks player after the whistle.

by Neal Coolong on Sep 22, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree Neal, but think it is way over reaching

Imagine if you had to do all of your work as fast as you could handle with someone going over it the next day and they could nickel and dime you for everything you did wrong while working at 100% capacity, it’s really kinda BS.

Damn John, you misspelled that word on that report, we are gonna dock you $25… Wait what, I have never been docked for a misspelling before… That was the past Johnny boy, get used to it… Try not to step on those egg shells on the way out – feel free to kick the dog, we probably won’t get you for that.

I would sue for creating a hostile work environment…

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Imagine if you had to do all of your work as fast as you could handle with someone going over it the next day and they could nickel and dime you for everything you did wrong while working at 100% capacity, it’s really kinda BS.

I get your point, and if you add in “pay you very little and make you work until 3 a.m.,” you just summed up why I got out of journalism.

I had an editor threaten to dock my pay because I misspelled someone’s name in a photo cutline. Unfortunately, it was the publisher’s kid. Whoops.

by Neal Coolong on Sep 22, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

I guess my main point is that

Seems to me we have moved from fining egregious fouls to fining most flags?

At this pace, holding is going to be a $5,000 fine. Pass Interference on a possible touchdown play? Ewwwww – that’s gonna cost yah! $15,000

The Commish really needs to step back and look in – he is creating a very confusing environment with no stability, they need to revamp the program and put actual limits – stipulate what fines are gonna cost, be consistent. Right now it really seems like a kid in a candy store.

BTW – Sorry about your experience in the field of journalism.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions

The fining BS needs to stop

except for the most aggregious and illegal plays by a none repeat offender. Its getting out of hand and I am sure I am not the only one whos interest in the NFL is decreasing because of the acts Goodell and the league office.

by steeler fever on Sep 22, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions

considering the league is the organization doling out the fines, and they said it’s worthy of a fine, I’d have to disagree with you.

So every fine the league doles out is correct and unquestionable? Why even have an appeal system then? I’m just extremely against how fine-happy the NFL has been this year.

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by John Stephens on Sep 22, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions

No, you’re missing my point. You’re saying you don’t think it’s justified, I’m saying no one has any idea what is and is not justified anymore. Only Goodell and Merton Hanks and whatever incompetent stooge they have working this process.

Goodell is legislating from the bench, and is not providing any sense of consistency over what they will fine, and more importantly, how much each fine will be.

If yesterday’s decision to determine on their own whether a player is hurt or not, and levy fines based on their opinion isn’t enough evidence of his inconsistency, nothing is.

Hopefully, when future generations look back on the way the game is regulated today, they will determine Tom Brady is really not as great a QB as we think he is. He benefited from massive defensive regulation and allowed him and every other offensive player of this generation to thrive in a way the game hadn’t seen before.

I’m totally in agreement with you as far as the amount of fines being levied. My overarching point is Goodell can dole out fines unchecked and unchallenged by anyone, and that’s going to lead to more animosity out on the field.

by Neal Coolong on Sep 22, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I would think less...

My overarching point is Goodell can dole out fines unchecked and unchallenged by anyone, and that’s going to lead to more animosity out on the field.

Remember after the Harrison fines last year- we thought Clark was really holding back his hits and it seemed like everyone on the D was playing just a bit apprehensively? I think judicious fining is going to lead to impotent D.

by SteelersVT on Sep 23, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions

isn't that his goal?

Wasn’t the opener of the season proof of this?
Offense is what brings in the money…
that’s all he cares about

by FrankWyt on Sep 23, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions

exactly Frank

I am worried that those of us who like hard nosed, hard hitting defenses are not of concern to the NFL. They seem to want high scoring games with touch D. I sure hope the NFL doesn’t start to resemble a NBA All-Star game!

by steeler fever on Sep 23, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions

what's with Goodell this year?

We’re going into week 3 and Harrison still hasn’t been fined. What in the hell is the world coming to?

by lkwdsteel on Sep 22, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

Wait til he recovers. He will release his own version of Hell

by Larrybob8187 on Sep 22, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Harrison, I mean not Goodell.

by Larrybob8187 on Sep 22, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Legursky is the 3rd Steeler to receive a fine

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by chewiesteeler on Sep 22, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

Who we got now? Troy, Legursky, who was the other? There are so many I keep losing track.

by Neal Coolong on Sep 22, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Ike Taylor for the headbutt

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by seton hall and steelers on Sep 22, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Ah yes...

Expect a counter of some kind coming to BTSC soon…

by Neal Coolong on Sep 22, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions

great idea

by steeler fever on Sep 22, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Wait for Harrison to get to full speed and Kemo to get back in the lineup...

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions

And this will just feed into the "Dirty Steelers" BS the haters like to spew

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions

next teams are going to be penalized

for off sides.

by lshaffer_69 on Sep 22, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions

Maybe even fined!

by Larrybob8187 on Sep 22, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Sorry

I couldn’t resist

by Larrybob8187 on Sep 22, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions

no prob

by lshaffer_69 on Sep 26, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm not saying Legursky deserved the fine,

I’ve always liked Legs but I don’t have a clue what he was thinking on that play. I hope we don’t have another Kemoeatu on our hands. Aggressive is great but you need to stay in control out there.

by Billy52 on Sep 22, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions

agreed, but it's not like there is a history of Legursky doing stuff like that

I think it was an isolated incident of bad judgement. You see him do it two times in two games, fine his ass.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

the nfl and the lottery are similar

i’ve heard somewhere that the lottery is there to get the governments welfare checks back
the new fine system is kinda like that..a way to get their money back.

by FrankWyt on Sep 22, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions

LOL - so sad and so true

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 22, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Legursky should not be fined for that hit -

Benched for his overall play? ABSOLUTELY.

But fined? No.

by crosby87 on Sep 22, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions

+1

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions

This is people's income we're talking about here

Almost all of these fines the last two years, WTF? This is people’s money we’re talking about. It’s not ok to just arbitrarily take it away like this. The NFL is out of control with these fines. I don’t care who the fine is on, James Harrison, Suh, Troy’s horsecollar, the ravens, anyone. It’s BS. Who the hell do they think they are just docking people’s pay like it’s no big deal? It is a big deal. Players earned it.

Players shouldn’t be fined for making mistakes or split second errors in judgement. Players should be fined for egregious, repeated offenses that are dangerous. These fines are ludicrous. There is a clear lack of common sense in the discipline department in the NFL. It’s clear as day. I’m just disgusted by the hubris of these people.

Who wants to bet Jerome Simpson suits up this Sunday after being discovered with the Sam’s Club of weed in his house in Kentucky? Just watch. Who cares if he’s not even charged yet? The precedent is already set on that topic.

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by showtime on Sep 22, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions

Well Goodell is in a good position here

he gets to do what he wants, and i wouldn’t expect a public outcry since a lot people i see in places like Yahoo etc are all extremely bitter and jealous that they make that much money.
with so many people feeling that way, i just can’t see anything being done about it.
it’s always “they make this much money, that’s like a quarter to them” blah blah
I’m not rich or poor, but no amount of money is so small it don’t matter to me. (unless i’m drinking at the bar)

by FrankWyt on Sep 22, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions

I guess being a CPA, I take other people's money seriously

Goodell almost got his toy taken away, but then he pitched a fit and now we’re stuck with it. If I was an owner, ANY team’s owner, I’d be pissed about this. This is not how businesses are run.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Sep 22, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions

oh i totally agree

Just saying i don’t think the public would rally for “over paid” athletes like that
so nothing will ever be done. but really, as people, we should do something about anything that isn’t right, regardless of our own bitterness/jealousy
but with the economy,and the way so many people are….i’m reminded of a certain Bob Dylan lyric

by FrankWyt on Sep 22, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL

Who wants to bet Jerome Simpson suits up this Sunday after being discovered with the Sam’s Club of weed in his house in Kentucky?

by Neal Coolong on Sep 22, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions

No Sam's Club here

but substituting Cosco works just as well.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 22, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Lord knows I'm just jealous

give me 8 lbs of cali and you wouldn’t hear from me in awhile

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by showtime on Sep 22, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions

Well put showtime

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions

thanks I thought I was ranting

At this point I want fans from every team to see one of their players get nailed with a real head-scratcher flag and some totally inappropriate fine just so they all realize that the Steelers and their fans were right about this junk last year.

I’m very proud of our team for not signing off on the new CBA. That was a nice bit of symbolism that wasn’t lost on me. Too bad the league couldn’t take a day or two to save us all from this.

I don’t know. If I was an owner I’d be asking some pretty serious questions about this whole business. Wait and we’ll find out goodell’s wife is on the payroll of the charity that all the fines go to. That’d be funny.

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by showtime on Sep 23, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Not at all man, it's getting nuts:

NEW YORK (AP)—San Diego defensive lineman Antonio Garay(notes) has been fined $15,000 by the NFL for a hit below the knees of New England quarterback Tom Brady(notes) last Sunday.

Patriots defensive end Andre Carter(notes) was fined the same amount Friday for hitting Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers(notes) in the chest with his helmet. San Diego safety Eric Weddle(notes) was docked $15,000 for unnecessary roughness in the same game, a 35-21 victory by New England, when he made helmet-to-helmet contact with Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski(notes).

Philadelphia defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins(notes) was also fined $15,000 for a helmet-to-helmet hit on Atlanta quarterback Matt Ryan(notes).

It was announced earlier this week that Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson(notes) was fined $40,000 for leading with his helmet while crashing into Eagles wide receiver Jeremy Maclin(notes).

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 24, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions

so

When will linemen start getting fined for holding? Too bad James Harrison never gets a call.

James Harrison~ "We are not trying to hit nobody hard. We don't want to get fined" *blank stare* /end sarcasm.

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Sep 22, 2011 6:58 PM EDT reply actions

Exactly

Game 1 McKinney could have seriously hurt Harrison’s surgically repaired back when he kept bending him over backwards…

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions

Obviously I’m not talking about Legursky personally. Whats trash is his play at starting RG. He’s a good backup, but no way should he be a starter in the NFL. I hope Foster wins back his spot.

by Josh Evans on Sep 22, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions

Semantics

If that is what you meant, say that. There is a HUGE difference between “Legursky is Trash” and Legursky’s play has been trash.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions

It's so many fines, but they're not even effective

10,000$ fines are like mosquito bites to these guys, annoying, but not killer.

The NFL is dropping the ball on the fines anyways, Goodell needs to loosen up.

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Sep 22, 2011 7:38 PM EDT reply actions

Legursky doesn't make that much though

He’s probably like $300k. A fine of $10,000 is three percent of his yearly salary.

The average American makes, what, like $45k? That’s $1,350. or, something close to a fine for DWI.

Ironically, the DWI fine would be more like mosquito bites, and it affects far more Americans than illegal blocks.

by Neal Coolong on Sep 22, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions

^ That

Not everyone in the league is a Millionaire. The foul was flagged on the field, it cost his team, and I am sure the coaches dug in his a$$ for doing it. The foul was not egregious, yet a $10,000 fine for someone who is not a repeat offender?

It just doesn’t make sense.

And I am not upset about it because it’s Legursky. The only thing that should have been fined since the season opener was the Dunta Robinson hit, and STRICTLY because he was a repeat offender on that same type of hit. And that fine made no sense either, he was fined more the first time he did it, less on the second offense? There is simply no rhyme or reason to this process.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions

since

the rules are so arbitrary, it seems like it’s a money tree and a way to control players.

When you hit someones wallet, it changes behavior. Goodell wants to change behavior. Worse, he’s getting into the owners present and future wallet by threatening the loss of draft picks.

It’s only the second game of the season and how much has the nfl made on fines so far?

by IronJake on Sep 23, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions

Draft Picks?

I haven’t heard about this part, please elaborate.

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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Sep 23, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions

"The only thing that should have been fined since the season opener was the Dunta Robinson hit, and STRICTLY because he was a repeat offender on that same type of hit."

Agreed. Within the new framework as the NFL has communicated it, I agree with your statement. That would be reasonable.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Sep 23, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Serious about safety?

If the NFL were serious about safety:

Head shots would rate suspensions; they produce very nasty post-football consequences.

Illegal plays which resulted in injury to other players would rate suspensions: “you hurt somebody, you sit long enough that your team is hurt as badly as theirs.”

Fighting, sucker punches, etc. would rate fines — that’s known as maintaining control.

Everything else would be taken care of by use of those yellow pocket handkerchiefs — that’s what they’re for.

If those were the uniformly enforced rules, the result would be enhanced safety and a cleaner game.

by Bertilack on Sep 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions

I wonder if it’s just the coverage of the fines that has increased. Maybe players got fined a lot say maybe 5 years ago but I didn’t read about or care or it wasn’t reported as much.

It appears to me that there’s been an overall increase in fines this year so far.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Sep 23, 2011 6:17 PM EDT reply actions

The players

dropped the ball when they didn’t hold out for equal representation on the matter of fines when they signed the agreement with the NFL. Goodell is the sole power and decision maker in the matter. Not a good thing! Goodell seems to think he is the grown up and the players are kids! I think Goodell is a power hungry asshole with a god complex and the players are trying to earn a living by playing a sport they love and delivering a service in the manner they have been taught by their coaches their whole lives.

by steeler fever on Sep 23, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions

NFL IS GETTING REALLY PATHETIC NOW

THE LORD JESUS CHRIST COMES FIRST,THE REST FOLLOWSIsa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue [that] shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This [is] the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness [is] of me, saith the LORD.

by steelerfan19650511 on Sep 23, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions