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Five Burning Questions: Steelers 'Down But Not Defeated' Edition

As disappointing as the Pittsburgh Steelers playoff loss was, I concur with Dale Lolley that Pittsburgh's latest loss on the road against the Broncos Mile High represents a microcosm of the Steelers 2011 season. Pittsburgh had all of the elements of greatness, but just couldn't muster them at the right time.

So be it.

The Steelers face a lot of tough decisions in the off season, and there's no better way to get the debate surrounding those decisions started than with the 2011 season's final Five Burning Questions "Down But Not Defeated" Edition.

1. To their credit no one on the South Side would agree publicly, but had the Steelers won they'd have been without without Casey Hampton, Max Starks, and Bret Keisel and possible Chris Kemoeatu and Doug Legursky; did the Steelers in effect get "lucky" by not to have to face New England with such a depleted roster?

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2. Aaron Smith, Chris Hoke, Casey Hampton, Hines Ward, James Farrior, Max Starks, Bryant McFadden, Larry Foote, Willie Colon, Trai Essex, Charlie Batch have all been mentioned as two Super Bowl ring owners whose time with the Steelers is ending either because of age, salary cap value, injury, diminishing or skills or a combination of the three? Who do you think comes back, no questions asked, who should come back at the veteran minimum, and who should begin what Chuck Noll termed his "life's work?"

3. After the Cleveland game Peter King called out Mike Wallace for lax blocking on plays in which he was not involved. Wallace started the year gang busters, but his production slipped during the second half of the year. Compared to Antonio Brown, Wallace's ability to finish catches and fight for contested balls lags behind Brown's. Wallace is a restricted free agent. With Emmanuel Sanders and Brown behind him, do you offer Mike Wallace a long-term, big money deal?

4. Which Steeler gave you the biggest pleasant surprise, and which gave you the biggest disappointment of 2011?

5. First, choose whether you want to be either Mike Tomlin, Kevin Colbert, or even Art Rooney II. You get one "do over" decision from the past year. What is the one thing that you do differently?

That's it folks, that's our final edition of the 5 Burning Questions for the Steelers 2011 season.

With Michael's blessing, we'll start a 5 Burning Questions 2012 off season series sometime soon, but those will certainly run less frequently.

Until then, I'd like to take a moment to thank all of you from taking time out to provide such thoughtful, engaging answers. I can't tell you the number of times I've thrown something out there thing it was an innocuous question, only to be amazed at the variety, quantity and quality of responses it generated.

That's truly one of the things that makes Behind the Steel Curtain special, and I am happy to have played a small part. Have a healthy and safe off season everyone.

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1. Probably. Regardless of the fact that the Pats defense can’t stop a runny nose with a tissue and a nasal decongestant, the Steelers, unfortunately, aren’t equipped at the moment to handle them up front in the middle (with Pouncey likely gimpy and our guard situation being about as clear as a peat bog) where they actually have quality players like Wilfork. Ben would be a sitting duck…as if he wasn’t already.
2. There’s a lot of people that need to make decisions. Aaron Smith, for his own health, needs to retire due to just the amount of arm and shoulder surgery he’s had the past couple years- I own a Smith JERSEY and I’m saying that. He needs to be a DL coach somewhere, preferably here. Farrior and Foote are too old and slow to cover the TEs that offenses use now. Face it, it’s time to replace the Big Snack with probably a smaller snack…and a different look upfront. Essex really isn’t notably any good anywhere on the line. Sometimes specificity is better than versatility. McFadden’s probably gone, as is Hoke. Starks probably isn’t because, sadly, he’s probably our second or third best lineman.
3. If I’m Colbert, I wait and see what kind of trade offers I get. I get like first…second round picks and maybe a quality OL I start listening. Wallace is stupid fast but somewhat expendable the way the front office is honed in these days. So if I’m Kevin Colbert, I’m sitting patiently by the phone and being very polite.
4. Biggest surprise was actually not Antonio Brown for me. I’m more surprised at how bad our OL is. I mean, everyone knew it stunk, but when a team’s two best linemen are a second-year pro and a rookie RT, they’ve got problems. Legs works out alright, but Kemoeatu is just a waste, and Essex and Foster just aren’t anything to write home to mommy about. Biggest disappointment in my book was Wallace’s falling off the table- part of that was the fact that the offense turned him into basically a ‘fly-or-nothing’ receiver by the end of the year, and almost refused to send him over the middle…which is where Ben should be throwing the ball 6-10 times a game to Heath but terrible OL forces him into block.
5. Y’all could probably see this coming, but if I’m Kevin Colbert, I’d commit myself to an insane asylum for not working harder to improve that OL. I’m going to get my franchise quarterback killed. If he’s going to hold onto the ball like a numbskull, I damn well better give him as much time to do it as possible. Either that or get him hopped up on caffeine before the game and hope that makes it better. I know that’s a series of things and not one thing but ‘Fix the OL’ is the first priority now after ‘Get under the cap’.

by BlueLoneWolf on Jan 11, 2012 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

You forgot Charlie Batch as one "to go"

As for wallace, the lack of blocking for Ben by our “pourous” OL caused ben to have a lot of errant throws. Getting a better OL and a “new” OC can solve that problem. We need to keep all of those young receivers and find a way to get them enough passes. And your are correct, it made “no sense” not to get the proper protection for our “franchise QB”. How often did you see Brady, Brees or Rodgers with a dirty uniform or multiple injuries. If Ben could sit back in the box with time that these guys had, he could easily post 5000 yard a year. He has a plethora of “very good” receivers. Also we have Mendy and Redman who are both capable of running for 1000+ yards a year. So, it does not take a genius to figure out that having a top tier “O” line is a MUST. If we can get rid of the above mentioned list of “castoffs”, we should be able to have plenty of cap space. The draft and FA, should be scrutinized carefully. On defense we need that young replacement for Casey immediate Brown and Allen showed a lot of promise. Sly (IL) needs to spend a lot of time in the film room and play book learning his duties. And we need to get Dixon involved in the Offense or release him. Personally I think we should keep him and insist that he stay in the film room over the summer. Let Charley (we should retain him as a QB’s Coach) drill him over and over. He (Dixon) has loads of talent. We need an OC who knows how to utilize them and keep him game ready. We wasted that talent this year while we were getting Ben “creamed” – game after game. I refuse to change my opinion about Dixon.

by Allen F on Jan 12, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Dixon is our Limas Sweed part II, Just sayin’

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."

by 1BlkGldFan on Jan 12, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here and I sincerely hope you’re right.

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."

by 1BlkGldFan on Jan 12, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, but the Dixon experiment has failed

He cant even pass up Batch or Byron.

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Jan 12, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't expect him to pass Lefty......

But, Batch should be gone by draft time. Unless we get a good young prospect in the draft, we will probably keep Dixon. He will be cheap to keep – and he knows our system. If he makes it to camp, he will be a keeper. I know, I am a stubborn “die hard”.

by Allen F on Jan 12, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

We should just work out a trade for Pryor huh?

This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.

by FrankWyt on Jan 12, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

No no

We need a QB.

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by glass0941 on Jan 13, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It was a joke for Allen. For some strange reasons, he’s obsessed with the idea that Dennis Dixon and Terrell Pryor are actually good quarterbacks just being held back by someone.

This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.

by FrankWyt on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Or that Pryor was better than Cam Newton

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Jan 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

My cent and a half

1. Could they have beaten these teams to get #7? NE, then BALT, then “GB/NO/NY”? It would have been a miracle that would have made Tebow look like an atheist…..it would have been great ;)

2. All the guys mentioned are big question marks due to injuries. Give Starks, Colon and Hoke a shot, Ward, Smith -and Cotchery -a chance at reduced compensation, the others can be let go or maybe at a reduced comp.

3. Wallace is different than Plaxico and Holmes…show him the money because he helps the other receivers with double teams, until they have to double team Brown, and then let him run and the ball fly. But I wonder if he can share the stage….

4.Willie Gay. Not a perfect player, but showed he can apply himself,

5. Tomlin….and I would shake off some of BAs calls just like a pitcher would, in combination with holding Ben to being less selfish. because being unable to put aside your own preferences to be Elway is immature. There is no reason, aside from a stronger OL, he couldn’t have a season like Rodgers, Brees and Brady had

But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose

by Twell on Jan 11, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

IMHO

1 Lucky is not how I would put it. It’s irrelevant because we knew the writing was on the wall. Lose to Tebow, to Brady… Eh…

2 Smith, Hoke, Hampton, Mcfadden, Essex, Colon are gone. The others should get a shot at a spot.

3 We offer Mike a contract. It won’t be the highest paid one on the table. We see if Mike wants to be a Steeler.

4 Biggest surprise: The secondary. Biggest disappointment: The offense, or lack thereof.

5 The question I wanted to answer: I would be Art Rooney II and I fire the hell out of Bruce Arians!!!!

by Damnscot on Jan 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

1. NO I wish we were still in the fight.

2. Smith, Hampton, Ward, Batch should all stay home next year.

3. Big money. No Way. His main job is to keep Brown from being double teamed. I’m not going to be popular for this but he is the most overrated WR in the league. His game is speed, period. His routes suck and he can’t block. Just like Plax and Holmes he will be gone as soon as his contract is up.

4. Pleasent surprise, Keisel. Every year I think he may slow down but he keeps going. Dissapointment, Ike Taylor on Sunday. But only because his played so drastically different from the rest of the season.

5. If I were Rooney or Tomlin I would tell BA he can pass as much as he wants as long as he does it as part of a play action package.

by ThoughtsAndSox on Jan 11, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Agree on your 3 and 4.

Maybe not to your extent on 3, but i’m not sure if Wallace is a true #3. Besides his speed, I dont think many DC’s game plan around him. Santonio would have made such a killer pair with him, if only he wasnt such a weedhead.

Really like Keisel this year. His impact is starting to rival that of ASmith in his prime.

Stay thirsty my friends.

by SteelerMessican on Jan 11, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I like your #4

Keisel was OUTSTANDING this year. Ziggy was somewhat of a disappointment. Ike and Troy needed Clark against the Broncos. As far as Bruce Arians, I would tell him that he could pass as much as he wants to – RIGHT OUT THE DOOR.

by Allen F on Jan 12, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Saw scrolling on the bottom of ESPN

That both LeBeau and Arians are going to be back with the Steelers next year.

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by Steel34D on Jan 11, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

yep

They wont be going anywhere, unless they go on their own. I said that on another blog. More dissapointed in Arians staying than Lebeau. I think we do need a fresh start on both sides.

by lamberts58 on Jan 11, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The only Defensive coach qualified...

…to take over this defense, with the players (and the investment we’ve made in them" is the Asst Coach, Butler. The thought that LeBeau has reached his expiration date is ludicrous, and is proven out by how the defense played this year in totality. Did the D “screw the pooch” on Sunday – yes. But if you want to blame anyone for that, the responsibility falls on Tomlin, who ultimately had to sign off on the game plan.

For crying out loud, Denver scored 3 points the ENTIRE second half. Yea, the first/last play of OT was wrong, but you know what, it happens. You don’t throw away a HOF Coach, on one bad play.

As for Arians, I’m of two minds. One, is in some agreement with you and many others, who are not happy with his play calling. However, as someone else pointed out elsewhere, what Arians preaches in terms of “pass happy” offense, is exactly where the NFL is going. So maybe instead of scrapping the OC who helped get us to two SBs, winning one, maybe instead he and Tomlin work together (as they should be) to (1) get a real offensive line; (2) get Ben to be a smarter QB and utilize ALL the tools he has, all the time and not just run around until he can throw deep. Discipline by the QB is what is needed, not necessarily a new OC.

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by PaVaSteeler on Jan 12, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

What you are saying is true.......

But that is the same as all of the “detractors” (myself included have been saying. But, it hasn’t happened. I will admit that our OL is 75% of the problem. But there has been some bad play calling mixed in with that.

by Allen F on Jan 12, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Frankly, really not unhappy that everyone’s getting rest now. Foxborough was not going to be fun.
2. Can we have Farrior join the coaching staff?
3. Dangle him something and see if he bites, I liked that answer.
4. Surprise: Gay; disappointment: Farrior
5. As Tomlin: as noted above, work on the OL and maybe commit to more running—get Redman out there!

by the_proph on Jan 11, 2012 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

For 5

The one thing I would have done different was resigning Willie Colon. He got hurt again and that money could have been saved and spent this year on an elite guard like Carl Nicks

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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 11, 2012 4:55 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

1 – Yes and No. Yes in the fact that given how battered the team was it’s unlikely they would’ve won even 1 more game let alone 3 to win it all, and losing earlier gets us a better draft choice. But No in that it’s never fun to lose, and we’ve all seen crazier things happen in the NFL than a depleted team winning the Super Bowl so you never know what would’ve happened.

2 – Returning for sure – Ward(his leadership is worth keeping around), Starks(helped stabilize that very inconsistent O-line), Hampton(assuming his ACL is not injured too badly).
Returning if cost can be reduced- Hoke(solid, if unspectacular), Farrior(not a top LB anymore but his leadership is worth retaining for the younger LBs), McFadden(hope he can return to old form), Foote(same as Farrior), Colon(hope that he can finally stay healthy after going from awful to decent 2 years ago).
Should be released/Should retire – Smith(retire, enter coaching), Essex(released, assuming we draft a couple replacements), Batch(retire, should join us as a coach).

3 – Yes, he absolutely deserves a bigger deal. His numbers declined later in the year not because of poor play by him, but because of Brown’s emergence as a potential star. He may not be on the Larry Fitz/Andre Johnson/Megatron level of stardom but Wallace remains easily a top-10 WR and deserves to be paid as such.

4 – Surprise – Antonio Brown by far. He showed a lot of raw potential last season but no one was expecting a breakout like this.
Disappointment – Shaun Suisham. After his excellent regular season with us last year, I had high hopes for him overcoming a poor postseason, but he simply hasn’t shown any consistent kicking from beyond the 40. I feel like spending a draft pick on a top kicker may be worth it this year.

5 – I would be Colbert and I would have worked a lot harder to improve that O-line. It’s wonderful to have possibly the league’s best WR corps for Ben to throw to but it doesn’t matter if he can’t stay up long enough to throw to them. (On a separate but related note, who would love to see Tom Brady play a few games behind our O-line? He’s got a one of the quicker releases in the game but I wouldn’t expect to see him running around making plays the way Ben does game after game).

by Akshay R on Jan 11, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

5 Answers

1) Stay in it. We beat them once, as everyone seemed to forget. I would’ve wanted a shot to do it again.

2) Farrior Hampton and Starks should be back. All three I feel are and have been very underrated, and have another great season. I’d love to see Ward go at it another year, but that’s up in the air, he’d need a contract reduction. Others are expendable at this point.

3) Very very tough situation. I say yes though. His numbers have dropped and I’m not sold on his commitment to the team, but I really feel that he just wants to play and help the team any way he can. I say yes, we give him one and keep him, Brown and Sanders together as the next generation.

4) Surprise: Antonio Brown. People who don’t say him are lying. On the message boards people were questioning everything about him in camp, as put him as #4, possibly even behind Limas Sweed. But now I feel like he’ll be the next Hines Ward by the way he plays.
Dissapointment: At first I though Mendenhall, but I feel like he’ll be back. For me though, its Suisham. He had an absolutely terrible season, and made me actually miss Jeff Reed.

5) Probably be Colbert and work on the kicking game. If Suisham showed any promise, Tomlin would’ve sent him in for the 47 yarded vs Baltimore round 2. He also missed badly in the Texans game and 49ers game

by tc26steelers on Jan 11, 2012 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Just because.....

Suisham had the worst field goal % in the league doesn’t mean he isn’t….. Oh wait, yes it does.

by biggcat on Jan 11, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He would be another casualty

I get VERY nervous anytime we have to depend on him in a close situation.

by Allen F on Jan 12, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

5

1. I live in CT and work in MA, so I see every Pat’s game, not just highlights. Without Hampton and Keisel disrupting the pocket so our LB’s could play, Brady would slaughter us. Plus, I’d have to wear a pink Brady jersey to my next district meeting.
2. “either because of age, salary cap value, injury, diminishing or skills or a combination of the THREE” Sorry, I’m not good at trick questions. But I want Big Snack back, ACL-willing.
3. I’d re-sign him to a bigger deal.
4. When the homers on the Boston sports radio station glow about a player not on the Pats (or Bruins or Red Sox or Celtics), he’s good. Antonio Brown is that man. Our PK disappointed me.
5 I’d be Mike Tomlin and I’d say "Hey 51, call heads!!!

by steeler37 on Jan 11, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

What it is

1. I’ve kinda been shocked by the relief at the loss as though losing to NE was a certainty. There’s a reason you play the games and I always feel good considering the playmakers the Steelers have on both sides of the ball. Then, assuming the Ravens win, the jolt they’d get to avenge two losses would’ve made that one interesting too.

2. Smith and Hoke retire. Hampton cut if the Draft is accommodating. McFadden and Batch walk. I’d take either Foote or Farrior at a good deal, they still can play and would be perfect models for the next gen. Starks/Colon/Essex aren’t worth it together, but maybe one for depth.

3. I’m not sure they should drop big money on Wallace, but I’d keep him around until he’s unrestricted. I think Wallace is faster than Brown. Brown benefits from having Wallace. To be honest, I don’t like having three little guys at receiver. PIT needs a tall threat like Sweed except good.

4. Brown is the winner. I had Sanders pegged as the better of the two last year, but Brown shows a lot of wiggle on returns and good bit of boldness across the middle. Hard to resist saying Ike due to the last game, which I don’t even think it’s his fault…Ben maybe, but he was so good when he was good or good enough when he was injured…Hood keeps flashing talents, but then will disappear for plays on end…Hines, but not because of what he did but only the ravages of time…lot of mediocrity on the OL line, but is that their fault that injuries thrust them into action…

5. The easiest do-over is be be Tomlin and demand we keep a safety deep against Denver.

by 13thieves on Jan 11, 2012 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

Here goes:

1) Yes, I think our sorry performance in Denver proved that, even if we had emerged victorious, we most definitely would have been embarrassed in Foxboro. I’d much rather lose in OT to the Broncos than get beaten badly by Brady and Belichick.

2) The Steelers need to focus on the future now to get back to where they need to be as a team. The only one of the players you mentioned that I would keep is Hines Ward, with the intention of altering the Steelers offense and taking greater advantage of Hines’s skills as a possession-type receiver and blocker. All those other guys are gone if I’m making the call. I hate to say this about Farrior, a truly great player for several years. But it’s time to bring in the next generation at his position.

3) I never cease to be amazed by the people who are ready to dump a quality player, simply because his production goes down during a particular period. Wallace’s problems this year correspond directly to Big Ben’s struggles. Give us a healthy Ben with an improved OL next year and nobody will be talking about whether to keep Wallace or not. AB simply gives us a huge double-threat. But without the right trigger man, talent at WR is pretty irrelevant.

4) Surprise player: It has to be Willie Gay. Sure he got beat in the Denver game for a TD, but nobody thought this guy was capable of playing the way he did this season.
Biggest disappointment: LaMarr Woodley. After signing a big contract, he only played about half of a season and I have serious concerns about whether he’ll be a durable enough player to have the kind of impact expected when we drafted him.

5) Art Rooney II: During the weeks immediately following the Steelers defeat in the SB, I hold a private meeting with Coach Tomlin. In this meeting, I state some serious reservations about the team’s offensive scheme, particularly as it unfolded in the SB defeat. I make it clear that I think we can do better offensively and I hand MT a list of viable OC candidates that I’d like him to consider as alternatives for OC. But I also make it clear that the final decision (on whether to keep BA and who to bring in if he’s replaced) is entirely up to MT. Also, of course, I listen to MT’s rationale for keeping Arians on board, to see whether perhaps I’ve been missing anything. So even if MT sticks to his guns and decides to keep Arians, he knows that I’ll be holding him responsible for the outcome.

by Billy52 on Jan 11, 2012 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

1. It may not be the popular opinion and some people might question by “fanship” or “loyalty” or whatever, but I’m fine with us getting bounced when we did. Certainly not in the way we did, but when we did.

Chances were very, very slim that we could’ve beaten New England on the road with such a depleted roster and so many lingering injuries to key players (the lingering injuries to key players is the difference between our tide of injuries this year and what Green Bay dealt with last year). I’d have certainly been happy to see us have a shot at beating the Pats twice in the same season, but we needed all hands on deck (or at least most, since Harrison was out that game) to beat them the first time around and we would’ve been far, far from it if we were playing this coming weekend.

I wouldn’t say that we were “lucky” to not get to play another playoff game, but given that pulling off the road upset would’ve been an incredibly tall order, I’m fine with where we’re slotted in the draft order now as opposed to being a few spots lower if we lost to the Pats.

2. I think Aaron Smith, Chris Hoke, Bryant McFadden, and Charlie Batch all move along – though I would love if Smith and Batch would stay on in some type of coaching/assisting capacity with the organization to help develop younger players.

I think Willie Colon will be back if he’s healthy and will have renegotiated his deal to free up cap space, and we’ll bring back Max Starks with some manageable two-year contract (I want both back to make sure that Marcus Gilbert doesn’t start thinking he’s entitled to a starting OT spot so he stays motivated and keeps working for it).

Casey Hampton and Hines Ward I think will be back on next year’s roster after they take pay cuts, while James Farrior, Larry Foote, and Trai Essex will only be back for vet minimums and they’ll have to fight for their spots in training camp.

3. I’d certainly offer Wallace a multi-year deal, but not a “big money” bank-breaking deal – for starters, we just don’t have the cap space for it. The way Wallace fell off towards the end of the season could certainly be related to Ben’s injuries, but a number of little things like the drops and blocking and what-not indicate that he still does have room for improvement.

I’d give him a two- or three-year deal – certainly for more than what he’s making now, but hopefully it’ll be for something less than what he could get out on the open market. He’d have a renegotiation guaranteed to come up soon enough when our cap situation should be much more favorable, so if he can really clean up the little things during this short-term deal, then he could possibly get his “big money” contract with us then.

4. Antonio Brown was without a doubt the biggest pleasant surprise – becoming the first player in NFL history with 1,000 receiving and 1,000 return yards in the same season. But I’d have to say that the biggest disappointment for me personally was his compatriot Emmanuel Sanders – I know he had injuries and personal issues to deal with, but I was really looking forward to all three members of “Young Money Crew” up to speed and consistently putting on a show.

5. If I’m Mike Tomlin, I take a do-over on that botched FG attempt that turned into a delay of game and led to Kapinos’ punt right before Flacco’s game-winning drive in our second loss to the Ravens. I know that Kapinos hit a great punt and it was defensive mistakes that led to Flacco’s drive, but if I’ve got a second shot to decide that moment, I make sure that Suisham is out there and takes the kick.

If he makes it, great for us. If he misses it, so be it – our defense still has ~65 yards to make the stop and win the game for us. I expect our defense to be able to snuff out any game-winning drive from any distance with just two and a half minutes left in the game.

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by barnerburner on Jan 11, 2012 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

1) Maybe not from a players’ job standpoint, for them the goal is to win as many games as possible, and they get paid the more they win. From the fans’ standpoint, and the players’ pride perspective, yes, Steelers got lucky. I would not want to see them go through what the ’76 Steelers did. One of the greatest defensive football teams in NFL history, by the time the playoffs came, the defense was injured, the offense decimated, with neither starting RB (as we call them today), and they were thoroughly trounced by the hated rivals Oakland in playoffs. Neither the players nor the fans would want to see the 2011 band of brothers suffer a humiliating defeat.

2) Hoke has announced his retirement, I think Smith will do so also before March. Hampton comes back "no questions asked, as does Starks, Colon, Foote and Essex (we don’t have the roster depth, nor sufficient draft picks, to do otherwise. Farrior and Batch move on to their life’s work.

Ward, sigh, Hines Ward. Either he negotiates away his roster bonus due on March 1, or he’s gone. If he does that, I think (and would hope), he would agree to vet minimum, provided he earns 5th spot, with bonuses for production to make up some of the difference.

3) We can’t offer him a long term, big money contract next year. Peter King was absolutely right to call him out the way he did. I know Wallace is a speed guy, and not a large player, but he has gotten himself into a funk the second half of the season. Roll the dice, keep him in his RFA year, and based on his performance, re-evaluate him them.

4) Biggest surprise: Mclendon. Would have been C. Brown, but Mclendon had to step in and play a lot more, thus more chances to “not” surprise. I am quite impressed with what he’s shown so far, though has a ways to go yet. Biggest Disappointment: A tie between Wallace and Dennis Dixon; Wallace, because I think he got caught up in the
“Young Money” hype, then began sulking the second half. Dixon, because the coaches thought so little of him that he could not give them a reason to play him instead of Ben, especially in the latter half of the season. Paying him to do nothing, and often times not even activating him, makes him a wasted roster spot.

5) Be Colbert and release Dixon and sign a quality journeyman QB at beginning of year, once Lefwiich hits IR; one that we would actually consider using when it made sense to rest Ben.

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Jan 11, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

1. The only reason we are lucky is that we wont see a beat down like West Virginia put on Clemson
2.A. Smith- cut him, Big Snack- resign league min., James Farrior- cut or sign as coach, Ward- resign league minimum or part of organization, Hoke- cut, Essex-cut or have him be a bull fighter, Starks-resign, Foote-sign minimum, Mcfadden-resign for minimum(depth in DB), Colon- cut please. kemo – restructure as backup
3. Sign him but not top dollar………or check on trades
4.surprise Gay-but is it a surprise he is a free agent this year, disappointment Timmons-where were the splash plays, he disappeared too often
5. Mike Tomlin going back 4 weeks ago and sitting Ben for SF , St. Louis, and cleveland and if its still not good sit him for the Denver Game….it does no good if he would have broke his leg and never played again ie…….. Thiesman(because he cannot avoid a pass rush. (grow some cajones and sit your franchise player so he can play again

by steelbit on Jan 11, 2012 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

great points and agree

problem is; I see Farrior trying to stay, and them keeping him. And I would cut Kemo.

Also agree on Gay and Timmons. Although Timmons did hop around a bit, but seemed to never get back in the groove once he was back at the inside. Sick of Tomlin not being a coach and having some balls. Sit Ben and put him in his place. If you dont believe in your back up QB, than get rid of them all and dont have one. You should of easily beat St. Louis and Cleveland with Batch. Funny thing is, the team played better with Batch in there.

by lamberts58 on Jan 11, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

my answer

1. No. Take a deep breath but, No one on that list on defense is REALLY that much better than their backups. Our D-Line is deeeeeep. Those young guys are going to OWN the afc for a loooong time. Watch the film, they are beasts. As for the O-Line, well, they suck anyway. Ben, not being able to scramble, kills this team. Not the O-Line.

2. Hines Ward should be the only one kept, if any. I’m not convinced that he should have rode the bench during thelast half of the season and especially the playoffs either. He’s never been fast. He’s never run clean routes. He’s never been solid 1 on 1. But he’s clutch. He doesn’t drop the ball in the playoffs > WALLACE! BROWN! SANDERS! CROTCH!!! < hold onto the freaking ball like hines!!!

3. I wouldn’t cut a 2nd string linebacker or backup Running back for Wallace.

4. Which Steeler gave you the biggest pleasant surprise, and which gave you the biggest disappointment of 2011?
Mclendon as the suprise, watch, that kid is going to be freaking good. Timmons. Not sure WTF is wrong with that guy. Again WTF? The guy is a physical beast. WTF? I can’t figure it out. He should be killing it but isn’t.

5. I would have kidnapped Dixon during the offseason and fed him obscene ammounts of food followed by 2 hours in the weight room repeatedly 24 X 7 until he is capable of being a viable backup who can take a pounding like Ben. But I would rather pass on this “fantasy” question and next year draft a QB with a pair of nads like ben. They need a mobile QB to run that offense. I would prefer that the ben clone doesn’t whip out his junk at every drunk chick he sees tho.

by masterblastor on Jan 11, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

1. I’ll take a chance over no chance.
2. Keep Hampton, Foote, Starks, Colon, and Ward if he wants.
3. Yes, but not too big. He commands so much attention from defenses.
4. Other than AB, biggest surprise is C. Allen. Biggest bummer is J. Scott/Kemo.
5. With hindsight- rest the wounded in week 17. Without hindsight- improve O-line sooner.

by TorchM on Jan 11, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

All in all

Dont be surprised if the Steelers keep more if not most of these guys. Every year they seem to do something that all of us are like; WTF are they doing. Farrior, Sepulveda, and Smith should of been gone this year so I am sure we will be surprised in this off season.

by lamberts58 on Jan 11, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

1. I say they had a shot at winning. Over the years this team has had an ebb and flow. When they are riding high, a fall is coming when it seems they hit bottom, they rebound. The second half against Denver looked to me as if they were adjusting to their injury depleted state and starting to perform at a high level again. Still not having Clark really hurt. Ben was starting to move better late in the game. This team never seems to respond well in pressure games they are supposed to win. Humble lambs going into foxboro to get slaughtered could have been very interesting because injuries and all, there’s still plenty of talent to beat the patriots. Clark would be back and Harrison. Maybe Woodley starts to get his legs back. No Keisel would hurt. OL would have been a mess but I’d go into the game with no expectations and just enjoy watching with nothing to lose.
2. I’d like to see them keep Hampton and Starks. Ward if price is right.
3. Considering today’s NFL I think they need to do whatever is necessary to lock up Brown and Wallace long term. I have confidence this system can breed new all pros on defense but having this level of WRs who have proven clutch is crucial. I’d love to see Ben get enough protection and continue to build chemistry with these three and Miller. Keep that stable, replenish the OL and they can win games while the youth on D grows into the system.
4. Heyward, Gilbert and young DBs were pleasant surprises. I’m loving that 2011 draft. Mendenhall was most disappointing. He’s so gifted and last year in the playoff run seemed to finally get it. I hoped to see that guy in 2011 but instead regressed back to trying to be A.Peterson. I hated to see him hurt but the run game is so much better with Redman attacking the holes.
5. The do-over. Its easy to look back and say this now but at 10-3, give Ben and Pouncey 3 weeks off. Since they sat Ben for the rams, worst case they go 11-5 but I’m thinking they go 12-4 anyway. When I saw Ben go down in the clev game my first thought, like most, was we just saw the end of the season. It did turn out that way but I’m not sure it had to. It became time to praise Ben’s toughness and let him dictate what he wants to do. This team’s success at playing this style was based on a mobile and accurate Ben. Without that part, they adjust. and can play well enough to beat inferior teams with a run game, Batch and talented receivers. Was it really Tomlin’s first choice to send the immobile Ben out there? And what’s with Dixon? He looked so promising in 2010 preseason then he disappears. Again its easy in hindsight but would’ve been fun to roll the dice like this. Sit Ben final 3 weeks, if he’s not 90% in practice sit him against Denver. If they beat Denver then play him against the Patriots but keep his status quiet. Keep this team in the underdog role and give the superbowl run the best chance with a healthier Ben. The super bowl aspirations ended vs clev so there was nothing to lose play it this way in my opinion.

Still that’s not to end the post with sour grapes. Forever loyal Steelers fan looking forward to pick 24 of the draft. I expect they will continue to play top 5 defense, hopefully improving against the run next year. But what’s got me excited is that this offense could easily be among the NFL’s best if they can improve their offensive line. They’ve got some age on D but this season gave me confidence that they’ve got some players ready to step in.

by bfrank on Jan 11, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

1-5

1 how is losing a welcomed reprieve? Losing- what a relief! I don’t think so. That sounds like a jet fan talking

Wallace is my biggest disappointment alongside the oline

I would get rid of all of them. Sorry, no takers

5- I need to redo my oline. We reaped what we sow. Benz injury put us o. A short leash tha is to a suspect o line. 5 years a d counting

Impose your will.

by ALDOG on Jan 11, 2012 10:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

No Money For Wallace

Tomlin said at the start of the year that we needed to see if Mike Wallace was a “one trick pony”. It turns out he will be as long as he (apparently) plays without heart. I don’t see the downfield coverage as it develops but when the ball does come his way I don’t see fight. He gives up on balls that aren’t thrown to him and as near as I can tell he’s never fought a DB when covered or underthrown. I also can’t recall him ever chasing down a DB after a pick and he’s the self-proclaimed fastest man on the field! I’m not in his head so I can’t definitively say he has no heart. But his actions speak otherwise. As an RFA, I’d offer him a one-year contract. Let him shop. I’m not concerned about his having bad feelings. I don’t like what I see. If Wallace had Antonio Brown’s heart, he’d be Steve Smith (CAR).

by mo_miller71 on Jan 11, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

try to be short

1. Felt like every player on our team was injuried at one point this season. Tough. They were going to win or los close. We all new it.

2. Keep Legs, Max maybe Farrior but he is foote now

by Unleashed on Jan 11, 2012 11:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

cont

3. As with Wallace. I always remember waiting multiple seasons for tone and plax to get 1000yrds/year. Wallace brown sanders are wards gift to the steelers. Keep them. Ward taught them how low rounders can be great

4. Gilbert nice pick maybe if kugler can get his style guys he can do something. Let him draft a high and a low round OT this year

5. Trying Dixon in the end of the Niners game. Let the kid run and audition for a job.

by Unleashed on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm Mike Tomlin (only for a minute Arn)

And I go for the field goal attempt against the Ravens during the Sunday night game. No delay of game…. an actual kick of a short 40 yarder by a professional football player whose only job is, to kick short 40 yarders even at home.

If that happened; we would have been 13-3 and preparing for this weeks game, because we would have gotten a bye.

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."

by 1BlkGldFan on Jan 11, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

lets see
  1. I do not think they got lucky, I think they had a change agains NE but no way we beat Baltimore.
  2. Should return: Starks,Batch and Foote (we have to keep Foote or Farrior).
    Should return with reduced salary: Hampton,Ward,McFadden,Colon,Farrior
    Should not return: Dixon,Smith,Hoke,Essex.
  3. Wallace should get an offer (3 years to see if his last behaviour is a fluke or a character flaw).
  4. I really liked Cortez Allen in his limited oportunities. Disapointed with Ben reluctance in getting rid of the ball and by consequence increasing the probability of getting injured as happened.
  5. Rooney and Tomlin should talk honestly about the changing of the offense. It seams that Ben has too much decision power on which plays are in the playbook..etc. Really, Arians is just there to please Ben. So when I read all the opinion agains Arians, I wonder if people do not thing that the offsense IS Ben, for good and for worse. In my opinnion we need I tough minded OC with the full support of the FO and HC if their philosophy doesnt make Ben happy.

by UFrazzel on Jan 11, 2012 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

I agree on #5 completely.

I have a nagging suspicion that Ben is the problem with the whole offensive philosophy. He is a good QB. However, if he wants to be a great QB and win a couple more Super Bowls, he needs to do the things the great QB’s do: take the check downs consistently when something bigger is not there, look at how to attack a defense, make a plan and stick to the plan. He needs to stop taking big hits, get in better shape and really commit to balance on offense. He gives it a token gesture with a few runs, but he doesn’t really believe in it. He wants the home run ball. If he wants the home run ball, he should work on his accuracy for it. He misses way too many deep passes.

hhhheaaattttthhhhh!
"You have to under promise and over deliver." Mike Tomlin

by ekl on Jan 12, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

yes,

The offense should practice heavilly short pass plays (4-10 yards) as well as run blocking,
I seems that steelers only run in the middle and to the right with no variations on the designs.
this led me to think that they only practice these couple of runs a couple of times. I think they have a couple of short passing plays that they practice but on ‘live action’ Ben alwas choose to do his stuff (look for 20+ yards gain) even when these short plays are called….

by UFrazzel on Jan 12, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

A sixth question

With Mendenhall’s disappointing year and Redman’s gangbusters play against an excellent Bronco’s defense should there be running back controversy in Pittsburgh?

"Kompromise, my friend, is the essence of diplomacy, and diplomacy is the kornerstone of love... sweeeeeet looooOOOve"

by CheekyMonkey on Jan 12, 2012 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

definitly

mendy dances too much and is fragile. Redman is a beast who can do the job in the winter weather. aka clay. Memo is reliable. Dwyer can be both Mendy and Redman together and Byron is a fan favourite.

by Sch Lotan on Jan 12, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Mendy looked promising at the end of the year. I’d definitely give him another shot next year because we don’t know how much exactly the absence of training camp impacted this team and players like Mendy. His speed makes him dangerous in breaking those long runs and i just dont think Redman has the conditioning to be the workhorse Mendy is. This is from one of Redmans biggest fans too.

" I dont put anybody above my law, that is if I hit you you're gonna fall" - Greg Lloyd

by Samoan_Esco on Jan 12, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

I like Redman, but I think you need both guys. Mendy’s speed and Redman’s power is a nice combination. Now if we could get a stud left guard, we could really run the ball and keep people out of Ben’s face up the middle.

hhhheaaattttthhhhh!
"You have to under promise and over deliver." Mike Tomlin

by ekl on Jan 12, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus

At the start of the season our O-line was terrible. There were no holes being made so Mendy had to dance to get to try to get to the outside or wait for a hole to open. I say we keep them both and utilize Redman more. Line them both up in the backfield.

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Jan 12, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

No

There should be no controversy. It should be clear the Redman is the way to go. Has been for 2 years at least.

by biggcat on Jan 12, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked that Redman wasn’t tackled for a loss very often (if at all). Even when the holes were small, he was getting 2-4 yards. I would love to see him get 20-25 carries a game over an extended period. I am pretty down on Mendenhall – fumbles, injuries, and just not hitting the hole with decisiveness.

~Tommy~

by sb24ws2005 on Jan 12, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Mendenhall had one fumble all year

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl

by WVPiratesfan on Jan 12, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

this

People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee

by stillergorillar on Jan 12, 2012 1:12 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

No

Mendy is the better back. The Broncos were able to play coverage because there was no threat of a long run

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl

by WVPiratesfan on Jan 12, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

1. I’m content taking a loss against a team I respect (Denver) over potentially losing to NE and negating the satisfaction of beating them this season. Plus we got a pretty decent draft pick now (for steelers standards)

2. I love all steeler players, especially the vets but i think farrior’s time is up, foote could probably slot in for a year or two and im hoping we draft that Burfict guy who can hopefully take over in his second year. I’d take Starks over Colon cause he is younger and still more durable and because i havent seen Willie Colon play in so long i’ve forgotten if he is any use to us.

3. I agree with Twell, Wallace doesnt derserve to have a big contract secured based on half a season. Antonio Brown is a more natural receiver, you can see it in the way he moves around the field, in comparison he makes wallace look a little goofy footed and lanky whereas brown is more agile and tighter in his movements, he’s ready to be #1. Another big thing Brown has over Wallace is attitude.I also loved Cotchery’s contribution and i think if we resign him he will have more of an impact next season.

4. Biggest suprise – William Gay/Keenan Lewis and the secondary overall.
Biggest Dissapointment – Lawrence Timmons, run D and the D’s inability to force turnovers. Remember how we started last season? I actually felt bad for teams we played that didnt have an elite qb and had to try and run on us we stonewalled them and then made splash plays almost periodically, Kiesel’s pick six being one of my favs.

5. I know its for last season but my do over would be to stop ignoring the oline woes from the seasons before. When i watch teams like the Texans play i become green with jealous rage! imagine the plays we would have running and passing with a stout oline! I’d be targeting a guard in the second round and maybe the 4th but 1st round should be farriors replacement especially since Timmons production dropped.

Overall we cant be dissapointed about 12-4. Thanks for all the good work BTSC! and BTSC regulars with their informing comments!

" I dont put anybody above my law, that is if I hit you you're gonna fall" - Greg Lloyd

by Samoan_Esco on Jan 12, 2012 1:51 AM EST reply actions  

More of the Same!

Forget what players will be back next season. It’s more of the same for the offense with Bruce Arians returning. Giv me a Break!

by steel-ten on Jan 12, 2012 5:33 AM EST reply actions  

1)
2)Aaron S..Hines ..B Mac… thanks for the yrs of sevice and your next step in lifes journey
3) francise tag
4) upside AB downside Ziggy under performed all season
5) MT – I dont let Big Ben finish the SF game when he was clearly at risk unable to protect himself

by OR69faithfull on Jan 12, 2012 6:12 AM EST reply actions  

1. The New England game probably would have been a joke, but it would have been nice to find out how they responded, I suppose.

2. Larry Foote, Hines Ward, Colon

3. Yes. Wallace showed enough in his first 2 1/2 years that I’m not ready to give up on him following a poor half a year.

4. Antonio Brown. He’s a keeper. Lawrence Timmons. I expected more splash plays from him, but maybe it wasn’t entirely his fault beings that he had to fill in at pretty much every linebacker spot.

5. If I’m Tomlin, I call a time out during that last drive in Denver right after they got down to the 45. They still had two, and they should have allowed so much time to run off the clock there. Maybe if they’re not rushed at that point, they can devise a better play, and Ben doesn’t fumble there.

Great questions this season, Hombre!

by Anthony Defeo on Jan 12, 2012 6:13 AM EST reply actions  

1. I am not happy we lost, but I didn’t want to go to New England with all those guys hurt. It would have stunk to watch Marcia Brady and the Hoodie tear us up. You know they would have put as many points on us as they could. That’s just how they roll. At least we get a better draft pick by losing now. It isn’t much consolation, but it is something.
2. Ward, Hampton, Farrior, Starks and Batch should come back at reduced salaries. We don’t have a replacement for any of them. They don’t seem to trust Batch, but they definitely don’t trust Dixon. I just can’t see Ward playing anywhere else. Smith and Hoke are probably done. I don’t want them to be done, but I think they are. I don’t know what Colon has left after two injured seasons in a row. Big Juicy should probably go. Essex fills in, but can’t we find someone else (younger, quicker, not so fat?)?
3. It hurts me to say this, but no I don’t think Wallace deserves big money. You offer him the first round tender money so that some WR poor team will sign him and give you a #1 pick. Brown is a better all around receiver and a super hard worker. If Sanders doesn’t get hurt, he is a good #2. However, we don’t have much after that. There just might be a place for Ward in that group if Wallace goes and Cotchery doesn’t sign up again.
4. Brown and Allen were the biggest surprises for me. I knew they had potential, but Allen in particular really grew up fast with Lake’s help. I never thought he would have an impact when he missed the pre-season. I think Allen could move into the starting line up in year 2, and Brown could assume the nickel back role. I thought Heyward came on at the end and Gilbert was a nice find for a RT. I don’t like him on the left side though. I hope we come up with something else.
5. I would sit Ben in the SF game. That would give him all the time off before the SF game and then the Rams game. If we were close but needed Baltimore to lost that last week, I sit him again for the Browns game. That would have given him a chance to be healthy in Denver, and that might have equaled two TD’s on those first two drives instead of two field goals. Of course we might still lost in Foxboro without Kiesel, Hamp and Starks as well as a hobbled Lewis and Allen, but we would have had a chance.

hhhheaaattttthhhhh!
"You have to under promise and over deliver." Mike Tomlin

by ekl on Jan 12, 2012 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

#5

Tomlin or Whomever: I would check into our conditioning program and see what is going wrong because I think we may have set a record for injuries in the last 2 years.

by biggcat on Jan 12, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

Responses

1. The most embarrassing thing to happen is to have our #1 pass defense get beat by TEBOW, possibly one of the top 5 worst quarterbacks in the league this year. I’d rather limp into round 2 and get beat by 50 to Brady than to lose to Tebow by 1. Being a Ohio State Buckeyes and a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, I REALLY hate the guy now…lol.

2. Let’s review the veterans, because let’s face it, given the cap situation, there’s big changes on the horizon….

Aaron Smith – Too many injuries the last few years. Let him retire. DL Coach position?
Chris Hoke – A backup that’s older than the starter, bad injury, he’s gotta go.
Casey Hampton – Isn’t getting younger. No real other options. Draft 3-4 DT = 1 more year!
Hines Ward – Says he’ll take a pay cut, doesn’t mind being a 4 at best. Keep him 1 more.
James Farrior – Liability in coverage. F.O. gotta get ILB by draft or FA, it’s him or Foote.
Max Starks – I would say if Max stays in shape in the offseason, give him 2-year deal.
Bryant McFadden – He’s gotta go, time to cut cord with young DB’s, survival of the fittest.
Larry Foote – I believe Foote or Farrior will be gone. Possibly both. F.O. will address ILB
Willie Colon – Some say he’s a top 5 RT. I dunno. 2/3 years on IR, pay cut or gone
Trai Essex – “Essux” The only guy who can play all 5 line positions. BADLY. Please cut!
Charlie Batch – Old & slow. Lefty = backup, but still need 3rd, but one without arthritis.

So: Hines, Hampton, and Starks fo sure. Farrior/Foote (both/neither) depending on what F.O. does, Colon ONLY if he takes BIG cut.

The important thing to remember here is that Smith, Hampton, Ward, Farrior, and Colon will have higher cap numbers than the others (If I remember correctly). This is going to be a huge factor.

ALSO***** Sepulveda, Susiham, Kemoateau should be GONE.

3: Do what the Steelers do. Offer Mike a fair deal. Mike is the real deal in terms of a #1. Brown is our new Hines, a possession receiver. You can’t compare, it’s not apples to apples. I don’t think Sanders could be a #1 or #2 yet. Give Mike a fair deal, then offer Brown one very similar. If Mike wants astronomical money, let him go. If he wants championships, he’ll stay, Sanders could be odd man out…or get designated as “restricted FA”. Brown is the only one they cannot afford to lose.

4: Biggest surprise(s) Offense: Starks, Defense: Gay, ST: Curtis Brown
Biggest disappointment(s) Offense: all Guards, Defense: Worilds, ST: Suisham

5: Mike Tomlin. I take a course in clock management. Seems like that was one of his biggest weaknesses this season.

by twault on Jan 12, 2012 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Overall Comment

This was a season that I hope will be a transformational one. There are three things that deserve attention and correlate with the five burning questions.

(1). Inflexibility of the Defense. Having the #1 Defense in the NFL doesn’t equate to much if you have weaknesses that can easily be exploited by opponents. The Steelers were great with run defense and holding opponents to low points. What happened to our ability to make turnovers? How could we be beat in critical moments by supposedly less inferior teams? Our defensive line has been built to stop the run, but the elite teams aren’t running the football. It’s time to move away from the veterans and start to build the next generation. Why was it that we failed to adjust to the Broncos passing attack after shutting down the run? Our inability to sack the QB is why we lost the close ones. How could we get blown out by the Ravens? Is the defensive scheme becoming too predictable?

(2). Offensive Weaknesses. Stop and look at the successful offensive teams around the league. While a part of it is the player’s abilities, another key and primary element is the system being implmented. The offensive scheme is again too predictable. Rarely do you see the quarterbacks of great teams holding onto the ball. I like Ben’s style but he doesn’t have the offensive line to give him the time to do his thing. Steelers need more backs coming out of the backfield and start to create more opportunities to exploit mis-matches like tight ends and running backs going against linebackers. Again this area requires a significant redo and it should probably start with BA.

(3). Steelers have got to be ready for what’s next. We should have been 13-3 going into the playoffs and then won the game against the Broncos. That’s water under the bridge now but would like to see the Steelers get more of the Eye of the Tiger like the Ravens had this year. We just can’t show up and win games anymore. There’s a target on our backs and preparing for the unexpected is paramount. MT should re-evaluate how effective the coaching was this year and make some changes. Need to be more aggressive in short yardage situations and not settle for field goals when we’re inside the ten yard line. If you have confidence in your defense, you would never do that. Do a case study on the Saint’s coach.

by LBS57 on Jan 12, 2012 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

1) +1 Defense needed turnovers, didn’t see that mentality in their play vs previous years.

2) There was one game (Game 11, 12, or 13) that the offense would line up in running formations then throw, then pass formations and run, and kept the defense guessing for the entire first half of the game (was it the Patriots???). The announcers were amazed and kept showing re-plays at how effective it was. Then I never saw it again for the rest of the season.

3) +1 Red Zone offense was horrible.

by BoiseSteeler on Jan 12, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

5. Tomlin

In everyone’s defense on the team/organization, I wanted to call out that we had a lockout shortened season. No OTAs, no real camp, etc…

Before the season started, a lot of folks were discussing how the lockout would affect this year’s football. The general consensus at the time was:

1. Poor play on offense the first month or two
2. Veteran teams would have an advantage
3. Injury bug can swing any team at anytime due to conditioning, etc…

We got walloped by #3 all throughout the season, but was hoping that Wood, Ben, Pouncey, etc… would have been rested going into the playoffs. The San Fran game really bothered me, more so with the comments of “Ben is doing this to show he is a warrior”. As Tomlin, I would have taken the decision out of his hands.

And I would have watched all the clock management botches I had the past few years, and tried to prevent them from happening again this year.

by BoiseSteeler on Jan 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

All Teams

Not Just the Steelers were locked out.

by biggcat on Jan 12, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as we didn't lose to

the Ravens they haven’t beat us when it really counted.

by thefirst3peat on Jan 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

1- The “What if” is not possible the Steelers needed all the people with health to face more oponents in the following rounds
2- I think is time to turn the page and get other guys to make the job. Hines can stay a least for one year to help the other receivers.
Farrior has lost his ability to chase guys for all the field as used to. Foote played better when it was required, and for the OL we need new blood
3 The Steelers cannot lose Wallace, Ben has in this moment good targets to hit and to lose this guy can be painful.
4 A surprise for me Redman, Brown, Gay
I don’t like the Kicker and the punter,

Win, lose or tie a Steeler's fan forever and until I die.
God is our coach.
The luck doesn't come easily you need to look for it

by ninke on Jan 12, 2012 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

Answers

1. I don’t know if “lucky” is the right word, but in retrospect I am feeling pretty relieved. Kind of had to know it was coming eventually, not so terrible to get it over with.

2. Aaron Smith, Chris Hoke, Bryant McFadden – I don’t see much value in keeping. Casey Hampton, James Farrior – are definitely getting up there, but every time I am ready to write them off, they surprise me with their next performance; maybe at a reduced price, they are still definitely worth hanging onto. Max Starks – no question, they should not have let him go the first time, I say definitely keep him now. Hines Ward, Charlie Batch – I don’t imagine BOTH of these guys staying on the roster, since they basically are filling the same role now; I’d like to see Charlie moved into some sort of assistant coaching position and then keep Hines around for just one more year.

3. Wallace has developed the same problem that star CBs (or blocking TEs/FBs) have: you don’t SEE him doing much, so you assume he isn’t doing much. But his performance is being overshadowed by the other WRs because he is as good as he is at what he does, which draws the coverage away and allows the others to shine.

4a. Biggest pleasant surprise was NOT Gay himself, but rather, the public perception of him. Ever since his rookie season pre-season, he’s been showing these glimpses of potential, and he’s finally starting to let that emerge. To the point where people have quit complaining about everything he does.

4b. Biggest disappointment was Sushi. He filled in well enough in a pinch since they got rid of the towel dispenser guy, but it’s time to find somebody more reliable and more permanent.

5. Would not have started BB against SF.

by EricY on Jan 12, 2012 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

Well....

1. Being from NM losing to denver just flat sucks…much ratehr of had Brady beat us…but ys never know how far we could have gone unless you are still playing…
2. If health is not an issue and they fit in the team needs then they shouold have a chances, but Starks, Hines & Batch need to be kept…the rest need to prove a worth. Smith & Hoke have serious injuries, Hampton was off all year, Colon can nto stay healthy…
3. I remember Blount hating playing againts Branch – had to chase him down the field and could not get in the action like he wanted. If we had a healthy Ben, if hey had more than 2 seconds to look downfield then Wallace would have been 1500+ yards. He is not as clear a #1 after Brown emerged adn Sanders is not a slouch either…but the package has 3 guys that can light up any #2 & #3 CS in the league (if we have a OL!)
4. Suprise – the pass defense as a whole was a suprise, but Gay’s consistancy was probably the biggest.
Disappointment – Wallace’s second half is up there, Sushi too but Worilds was my top…lost of hope and he really struggled in both chances he had.
5. Replace Arians with….any one!

by 1969 NM Steeler on Jan 12, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

5 Thoughts

1. Losing is never “lucky” in any facet.
2. Sadly, time to fold ’em: Aaron Smith, Chris Hoke, James Farrior, Charlie Batch. Time to move on: Bryant McFadden, Trai Essex. Time to take a reduced role and salary: Casey Hampton, Hines Ward, Larry Foote. Time to recover and play: Max Starks, Willie Colon.
3. You offer Wallace a contract.
4. Max Starks – Willie Colon.
5. Rest Ben!

by SteelheadOH on Jan 12, 2012 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

The Denver Broncos they're just Yonkos...

I guess not.

#5) AJ2: It’s tough to get rid of an offensive coordinator when you just went to the Super Bowl the year prior. That being said, there is nothing magical about Arians even if he and Ben are best buds. It’s obvious the Steelers need re-tooling and sacks have been a big problem throughout Arians’ tenure. Part of the problem is Ben’s propensity to hold onto to the ball longer than most QBs and the other is with blocking. Vince Lombardi said football is simple and has only 2 components to it – blocking and tackling. Blocking belongs to the offense and Arians is ultimately the chief guy responsible for everything offense. If I were AJ 2 I’d give it to Tomlin and Colbert to find a new offensive coordinator for the upcoming season. I would not place any other restrictions on either of them other than this: “We can do much better than we did this season.” That’s it. Do what you have to do but know that we can do much better than this season.

by SouthBaySteelers on Jan 12, 2012 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

1. Thank goodness the Steelers didn’t have to send just half of their team limping into Foxboro to be slaughtered. They say you are never as good as you appear when you win, and you are never as bad as you appear when you lose. A huge loss in Boston would have tempted many to greatly underestimate the quality and potential of this roster.

3. Unless you can receive a stud offensive lineman and a a first round pick, you desperately try to make Mike a Steeler into his 30’s. He complements AB and Sanders very well. If Ben is ever given excellent protection<, Mike will be worth every penny

4. The talent shown by Cortez and Curtis, given they are 4rth and 3rd rounders is tantalizing. And this was exactly in the Steelers position of weakness. Kenan’s improvement is also very promising. The Steelers could now move either Gay or Kenan to safety and then use top 2 picks on OL and ILB..

by buddydial on Jan 12, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

Thank gawd these guys lost to the pathetic 8 game winning bronkos..

if not, more of the overpaid bums wouldve had ambulances lined up at the tunnel.

In Communist China and Russia, you have 1 choice of "Kool Aid": RED
In America, you have 2 choices of "Kool Aid": RED (republican), AND BLUE (democrat)
The difference is, in China and Russia THEY KNOW IT’S KOOL AID.

by blitzburgh on Jan 12, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Jan 13, 2012 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Instead of yelling "hike' or "hut hut"...

BB shouldve been yelling ..“MEDIC!”

In Communist China and Russia, you have 1 choice of "Kool Aid": RED
In America, you have 2 choices of "Kool Aid": RED (republican), AND BLUE (democrat)
The difference is, in China and Russia THEY KNOW IT’S KOOL AID.

by blitzburgh on Jan 12, 2012 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

See previous post ^

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Jan 13, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions  

1. As much as I’d LOVE to see the Steelers playing this weekend, I don’t think I’d want to watch the bloodbath that it would have been. Better to have watched them lose after a valiant comeback then to have seen a season ending on what would have probably happened this weekend.

2. I don’t think any of those should come back “no questions asked”. Any of them could be invited to training camp with some change in pay/incentives. Batch, Hampton, and Hoke – probably time to move on with life’s work. Aaron Smith – maybe on this one. Perhaps he gets invited to training camp, and if he’s able to show that he’s still got it, you allow him another season. He hasn’t played consistently in 3 years, so it’s hard to tell what he has left in the tank, if anything.

3. I’m on the fence on this one. Wallace has tremendous potential and along with Brown, will eat up attention by the opposing secondary. Having him, Brown and Sanders coming at you would be pretty intimidating to a secondary trying to cover them all. However, if I have to look at the 2nd half Wallace, I’d say he’s not worth a long-term investment.

4. Best surprise – Brown. Biggest disappointment – Harrison/Woodley (due to injury). Overall disappointment – Suisham. I hate biting my fingernails every time he is sent out to try a field goal.

5. Tomlin – and I’ll go with two do-overs. First – I’d start Batch against San Francisco, St. Louis AND Cleveland. Second – I would have insisted on a no-huddle offense more regularly.

by Michael Bates on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

No, it does not matter

1. First, it is not a guarantee that New England would have beaten us, which makes the Denver loss even more hurtful. New England has no defense. The only way even a depleted Steelers team lose in NE is if Brady plays out of his mind and Arians calls 50 bubble screens. The team a depleted Steelers would have definitely lost to would have been the Ravens, who are hungrier and healthy right now.

2. Only ones who should come back? Hampton at a reduced salary, Ward at the vet minimum with incentives, Batch as the 2nd QB (draft a young kid in the 5th-6th round as a 3rd QB), and Farrior at a reduced salary as well. Aaron Smith has nothing left. He should just retire and be made an assistant to John Mitchell. Chris Hoke will likely retire. I would cut Colon and save a lot of money. Remember the Steelers gave Max Starks a lot of money a couple of years ago. They cut him and then brought him back. Same thing for Colon except this time, give him a much smaller salary and kick him inside to guard. Let Foote walk and come back when he realizes no one else will want him as a starter, let Essex walk and come back when he realizes he is not a starter period, and work around the salaries of Woodley and Timmons to get under the cap.

3. I would offer Mike Wallace a 1st round tender and see if anyone in the league will bite. He is one of the five best deep threats in the league and there is always room for someone with that type of top end speed. The Steelers can find WRs later in the draft (see Hines Ward, Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders). If the Steelers can get another 1st round pick, that would help to shore up the offensive line. I would make Wallace show in 2012 he can play at a top level for an entire season. I know that the dropoff can also be blamed on Arians but given Brown was constantly given single coverage, Wallace’s impact cannot be understated.

4. Surprise: Antonio Brown. I thought he was going to be a solid contributor but he was more than that. He should win Most Improved Player award, even over Victor Cruz. Disappointment: if we are talking players, Ike Taylor against Denver but all season, I would go with James Harrison.

5. Art Rooney II- I would have made Coach Tomlin sit Big Ben after the comeback versus the Browns and I would told Tomlin and Roethlisberger that Arians would not be back for 2012.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.- Mark Twain

by steeler_chris_5 on Jan 13, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

6 Days Later

1. Yes. It would have been painful to see Brady run up the score, or the Ravens gloat.

2. Max Starks will stick around. 2012 will be Casey Hampton’s last year (what a player he has been). Colon gets a shot at RG. Everyone else is gone.

3. If you mean Top 5 money, the answer is No.

4. SAYING IT FOR THE RECORD: William Gay was the biggest pleasant surprise. But someone needs to mention the kid, Curtis Brown. How cool is it that we have fixed the kickoff game? How cool is that? How many TDs did we give up to long returns over the years?

5. I let most of the veterans from #2 above go and I buy myself some offensive line help. If I do that, we win 2 more games; get homefield advantage, our roster isn’t riddled with old man injuries, and our QB isn’t hobbled going into Denver.

by Steelzombie on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

"they're old, slow and done" etal Warren Sapp.....

seems all you no nothing talkin heads had it wrong. lol. lol….look back on my two cents from time to time, i told you they’d blow it. and viola.

you may thank me accordingly.

In Communist China and Russia, you have 1 choice of "Kool Aid": RED
In America, you have 2 choices of "Kool Aid": RED (republican), AND BLUE (democrat)
The difference is, in China and Russia THEY KNOW IT’S KOOL AID.

by blitzburgh on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

viola huh? Like, the instrument?

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Jan 14, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Frank, you are the biggest POSER of all on this site.........

I hate you the most because you run your trap the most on things of which you know nothing about. I hate you like poison.

I hate you more that Flacco. If you knew anythng besides how to sit in judgement of everyone and everything, you would be on the field DOING instead of yapping. You arent qualified to coach a bowling team consisting fo paraplegic retards.

In Communist China and Russia, you have 1 choice of "Kool Aid": RED
In America, you have 2 choices of "Kool Aid": RED (republican), AND BLUE (democrat)
The difference is, in China and Russia THEY KNOW IT’S KOOL AID.

by blitzburgh on Jan 14, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

that’s an interesting story. Well thought out as usual. I’m glad you hate me, and you can use all the made up reasons you want, won’t bother me.
I didn’t judge you, I called you out for the stupid comments that you continuously make. That is how public forum works.

So you’re saying you’re on the field then?

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Jan 14, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

NO im not, and i dont claim to know

all the “holier than thou” shit that u seem to try to impress all the other posers on this site with. oh by the way..is that the best u can do? is some bullshit nanny nanny boo boo comeback? like i say…POSER. you think my comments are stupid…ur stupid.

Let me try to say it again in 2nd grade terms so u might understand…its easy for you and your poser pallys to sit and judge and critique all the decisions made by the professionals and businessmen in much higher places that you will ever see. if you and them had ANY answers for ANYTHING or problem solving workable ideas then and only then YOU would be in those or that position. Lest your seemingly forget, you are not…all u are is a talkin head who thinks u have the all the cures for all the ills. youre prolly sittin in your moms basement, next to a HAM radio, in dirty underwear smoking cheap cigarettes with tin foil on ur head. why dont u post up a pic of you…. in your tin foil next to ur weiner dawg named roy, that reeks of cheap cigarette smoke. youre starting to bore me and i need a good laugh.

In Communist China and Russia, you have 1 choice of "Kool Aid": RED
In America, you have 2 choices of "Kool Aid": RED (republican), AND BLUE (democrat)
The difference is, in China and Russia THEY KNOW IT’S KOOL AID.

by blitzburgh on Jan 15, 2012 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

Reply is your friend. (for your comment to me, as well as mine to you.)

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Jan 15, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

ur stupid.
say it again in 2nd grade terms

When have you ever typed in anything other than second grade terms?

I think the funniest part of your comment, is that you accuse me of doing something that you do. It’s also something I don’t do. In fact, I believe my first comment directed toward you was about how you’re in no position to judge what the FO or coaches should do.

Thanks though.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Jan 15, 2012 12:23 AM EST reply actions  

and one mo thang....timmy can go home now.

praise the lord!!

In Communist China and Russia, you have 1 choice of "Kool Aid": RED
In America, you have 2 choices of "Kool Aid": RED (republican), AND BLUE (democrat)
The difference is, in China and Russia THEY KNOW IT’S KOOL AID.

by blitzburgh on Jan 15, 2012 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

NO PIC?

i was so waiting for my chuckle.

In Communist China and Russia, you have 1 choice of "Kool Aid": RED
In America, you have 2 choices of "Kool Aid": RED (republican), AND BLUE (democrat)
The difference is, in China and Russia THEY KNOW IT’S KOOL AID.

by blitzburgh on Jan 15, 2012 12:25 AM EST reply actions  


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