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Free Agency and Possible Solutions


I know this team and organization is not one to spend the big money one big named Free Agents. That is not what this post is about. This is about the middle of the road Free Agents that can come in a help the team. The team has gone in down this road in the past with success. James Farrior after been label as a "bust" was allowed to leave the Jets and enter Free Agency. Since then he led the team in tackles from 2003-2009, was a captain for 8 years and has been with the team for the last ten. Not a bad pick up. How about Ryan Clark? Ryan Clark signed with the Steelers in 2006, as a replacement for the loss of Chris Hope. He has been the starting safety since and this year led the team in tackles.

Star-divide

So that is what this post is going to be about. Those unheralded members of the 2012 Free Agent class that can fill a need. The need in my opinion are OG, ILB, K, back up NT, back up OLB, back up OT, and back up QB.

I'll start with ILB because there is plenty of reletively young talent here and this is a position that is very weak in this draft. I shouldn't need to say that a guys like Curtis Lofton, Anthony Spencer, London Fletcher or E.J. Hendersen will probably not be targeted by the Steelers but there are some Starters and back ups that could be.

-Inside Linebacker-

David Hawthorne, MLB, Seattle Seahawks

Hawthrone is the starting MLB for the Seahawks. He is 6' 246lbs and will be 27 years old next season. In the last three years he has finished with 100+ tackle. Why then would Seattle let he go? Well the Seahawks have 18 unrestricted Free Agents. they may not be able to keep him. The guy flies around and would be a good complement to Timmons at ILB for a fair price. Might be too high for the Steelers though.

Dan Connor, MLB, Carolina Panthers

Dan Connor is a solid MLB out of Penn State. The Panthers had to move John Beason to the outside so last year was Connors first year starting. He is 6'2" 231lbs so would need to bulk up about 9lbs but he is only 26 and won't be 27 till November of this year. The Panther don't have a lot of Free Agents this off season so could keep him but may not choose to.

Larry Grant, ILB San Francisco 49ers

Grant is a back up MLB for the 49ers he has started only three games this season. However in those three games he was flying around like crazy. One of those games was against the Steelers. I think the Steelers pro scout really took note of him. Grant is 6'1" 251lbs thumper who has one year with the 49ers and 3 witht he Rams. He is 26 and will be 27 in February. Grant could be a lower price guy that could come in and play. The 49ers have a whole list of Free Agents so I don't believe a back up ILB will be on their priority.

Keyaron Fox, ILB Washington Redskins

The Steelers let Fox go to Free Agency last year where he wasn't a hot commodity. However the Steelers like guys that already know their system and Fox was solid in the 3 games he started for the Steelers in 2009. Fox is due to be 30 so this would be just a stop gap move. Fox was also a good Special teams guy. I could see the Steelers getting back Fox if both Farrior and Foote do not return next year. Especially cause Fox will come cheap.

-Offensive Guard-

It is safe to say guard is a big need. The Steelers may choose to bring in a middle round Free Agent then draft a guard in the third. Again guys like Ben Grubbs, Logan Mankins or Carl Nicks aren't an option.

Jeremy Zuttah, G Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Zuttah started 14 games this season for the Bucs. He is a solid player who is good when he plays with a mean streak. He was the 3rd round pick in 2008 and is only 25 years old. Zuttah may be resigned by the Bucs but he would definitely be an upgrade over Kemo and may be better than Foster. He would not be my first choice but could be an option.

Vernon Carey, G/T Miami Dolphins

Carey signed a 1 year 2.5 million dollar contract last year to remain with the Dolphins. He played some guard and tackle for the Dolphins. He is a sold tackle and guard and would be an upgrade over Foster. Carey would come at a decent price for a Free Agent and could be an option.

That's pretty much it. The Steelers would be better off drafting a Guard if they want a solid starter for years.

-Kicker-

Matt Prater, K Denver Broncos

Prater has a leg. He has 47 touch backs compared to 28 for Suisham. For his carreer he has a 78.4 FG percentage which isn't great but this year he was 3 of 4 on 50+ yard FG with a career long of 59. That would give us some major confidence we don't have with Suisham.

Josh Scobee, K, Jacksonville Jaguars

Again another kicker with a good leg. He had a 92 FG % this year that include 6 FG of 50+ yards. Scobee will be 30 next year but that isn't too much of a concern. Scobee might be hard to get away from the Jaguars though.

-Nose Tackle-

As you might expect there aren't NT just given away. There is literally no one worth it. Paul Soliai is the only good NT here and it would cost way too much to get him away from The only close to being at a decent price would be Shaun Rodgers but he is 32 and declining. Better off drafting someone in the first three rounds.

Sione Pouha NT New York Jets

He is a good NT but also 32. He cost way too much for some one to spell Hampton.

Back Up QB

Lets face it BAtch is probably going to retire, Lefty is a FA and so is Dixon. They won't sign Dixon and may draft someone in the later rounds of the draft so we will need some one.

If we wanted someone who could play we could take

Chad Henne, QB Miami

Henne is still young and has starter some games. He is a guy who can come in and run an offense if need. I have always liked what Henne brings to the table physically he just wasn't that great mentally. The Dolphins won't bring him back.

Byron Leftwitch, QB Pittsburgh Steelers

Leftwitch is a Free Agent and was on IR all last year. I'd bring him back if completely healthy. He is a solid back up who knows the offense and can win games if needed.

Richard Bartel, QB Arizona Cardinals

Bartel is a 3rd year player with the Cardinals. He has only played in three games but after watching him in preseason I am convinced he can be a solid backup QB for any team. He is a restricted Free Agent so if the Card tender him the Steelers won't go after him.

David Garrard, QB, Unemployed

Garrard has been a starting QB with Playoff experience and a Pro Bowl season. He is a big guy with mobility and a good arm. He was let go by the Jacksonville Jaguars and then had surgery which kept him from signing with anyone. If Garrard is healthy and the price is right I would take him. He would give us a good character back up who we could trust to put in for an injury Ben and Garrard is a big guy who won't break if hit. The only problem would be he is 33 years old and will be 34 next year.

-Tackle-

If we want to spend some money we could get Demetrius Bell, Khalif Barnes or even Joe Thomas. However Jamon Meredith is a UFA, Johnathan Scott is an UFA and so is Max Starks. If we want a starter than

Jared Gaither, OT Chargers

Filling in for injuries Gaithers didn't allow a single sack. He is a solid LT.

Vernon Carey ,G/T Miami Dolphins

See above

Max Starks, OT Pittsburgh

If he is cheap I would bring Starks back as a back up to Gilbert or as an LT with Gilbert being a guard. However the first is probably more reasonable with the way Gilbert played this season.

Well those are some of the Free agent. I think that the Steelers could and should get at least one position filled with free agency. Preferably ILB as I like the ILB Free Agents better than the paper thin draft class. They have some other questions like William Gay is an UFA. Doug Legursky is a RFA and Foster is an RFA. Trai Essex is an UFA.

Poll
Out of the ILBs who would you like to have?
Larry Grant
82 votes
David Hawethorne
23 votes
Keyaron Fox
18 votes
Dan Connor
25 votes
Draft one and get another position in Free Agency (name below)
27 votes
Draft our needs
41 votes

216 votes | Poll has closed

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Zuttah played some C I beleive

However if i remember correctly he is really small maybe under 6 feet. Not going to be good in the running game I think. Doubt we pick up Fox again he already is old, and aging. The fact nobody pick him up when we dropped him tells me he’s not worth picking up.

Carey is an Essex type. Can play multiple position but none well.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

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by Steel in FL on Jan 11, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Zuttah is listed at 6’4" 308 so definitely not under 6’

Carey can play a lot of position well enough no way he is worse then Essex.

Thanks for the input gaurentee you have seen more of these two then me.

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by Steel34D on Jan 11, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Your right on the center play though

He has played at center, and both right and left guard.

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by Steel34D on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the knock on Zuttah was how small he was

guess not than.
What I’ve heard and seen about Carey is he is barely starting material. Not much of an upgrade. I’d think we’d pick up a younger guy with room to grow.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

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by Steel in FL on Jan 12, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely agree I’d rather draft a young guy.

Zuttah knock is that he is small, but it meant weight wise, that’s the NFL for yeah around 300lbs and your too small. He also plays passive though supposedly this year he was able to play with a mean streak when coming in for their starting guard and never gave the spot back.

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I chose draft one

the name that seems to be falling to us in alot of mocks is dont’a hightower… he is a great leader and a beast of a run stopper and tough as hell he fits the steeler way very well.

by THR1LLHOUSE on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Hightower to me is seems slow though, and a 2 down LB only. He is smart and a thumper though. I’ll be watching closely for him at the combine to see how well he moves

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by Steel34D on Jan 11, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He's over 260lbs

No one that big is that great coverage.

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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 11, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Your right

Need to probably get down to low 250s but that what this next three months are for right?

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by Steel34D on Jan 11, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He's been that big for a while now

I just dont trust him moving around in space, he’s not athletic enough. He can slim down all he wants, but he still wont be as mobile as he was before his ACL injury.

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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 12, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

he is a great compliment to timmons

he isn’t as bad in coverage as everyone makes him out to be…. he plays his game just like Farrior, or at least from that mold.

by THR1LLHOUSE on Jan 11, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Would it be easier to get Soliai if the new HC for the Fins goes to a 4-3?

by StinkBomb on Jan 11, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

for QB

i like the idea of signing David Garrard. solid guy who was always a bit underrated in my opinion. i think he’d like the idea of coming to a contender since he only made the playoffs once with the Jags (when he beat us in 2007)

by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 12, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

Pennington blew out his knee

In training camp or something, maybe off season work outs. There is no way he comes back. I’d like giving Henne a shot but not Garrad. He had neck surgery which was why he was cut and subsequently not signed.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

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by Steel in FL on Jan 12, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Pennington blew his knee out playing basketball

although I think he may have been walking to said basketball game when it blew out.

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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 12, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Pennington is happy with his job calling games for Fox. He’s the low man on the totem pole, but the game I heard that he called, he was pretty good.

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by FrankWyt on Jan 13, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Completely forgot about Garrard

He’d be a good option

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Orlovsky would be a good fit at backup qb

Garrard will probably want to go somewhere he can compete to be a starter. Although, if he is willing would be a good backup. I think Orlovsky showed some good ability when he got his chance with the Colts. He has a big arm and could get the ball down the field to the Steelers speeedy receivers. He was bad against the Ravens but that was more a product of a horrendous offensive line.

by GMB on Jan 12, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

There were plenty of teams in need of a starting QB this season

and Garrard never resurfaced. No one is giving him a legit shot to start anymore.

by average joe blow on Jan 13, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s because he was injured pretty badly when the season stared. I can’t remember the details

by klompus on Jan 13, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

ah, good catch. After a quick google search, you're totally right
David Garrard has a herniated disk and is going to schedule back surgery this week, he told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen. The Oakland Raiders had reached out to the free-agent quarterback in the wake of Jason Campbell’s broken collarbone but Garrard informed the team that he is not available.

LINK

by average joe blow on Jan 13, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I keep hearing from my sources -

that BA is talkin in a big way with Miami…anyone else got a read on this?

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by blitzburgh on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

Yea, right.

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by PaVaSteeler on Jan 12, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure you did

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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 12, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Name them

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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure what we'll do at LT next year

apparently starks’ injury was pretty serious. like a torn ACL or something.

by hasay on Jan 12, 2012 3:53 AM EST reply actions  

Him and Casey as well

Almost… almost glad the season is over.

by axiomatic on Jan 12, 2012 4:52 AM EST up reply actions  

New Steeler Way.... Not applied 100%

Nation-

I like the thinking here but once again I get baffled. I hear so much chat about the new Steeler way with regards to throwing the ball all over the yard. Ok, so if this is the new Steeler way then should we not apply it to free agency to a milder degree? Our DB’s improved greatly and I give Carnell a lot of credit there but there is no reason why we can’t bring in a few FA’s. If we believe our QB (who performs best while he is moving because we have not given him enough time in the pocket) is our best player, then we need a nasty prideful oline. I am already hearing rumors of taking our 5 best olineman and finding spots for them.

No offense but 68 has to go and Willie C will not be the answer at Guard. Again, other than Pouncey (when he actually plays and is not out promoting himself) we have done nothing here. Farrior has been a warrior for us but is has stood around two years longer than he should. Anything wide he can no longer get to. New Steeler way? Some people would say I am greedy right. Playoffs every year three SB’s appearances but I must say. If we don’t have a solid top 5 defense in this time period we don’t sniff these results. I would like to see our offense eliminate Bubble Bruce Arians, get additional leadership on this side of the ball, bolster oline and use the freaking awesome talent we have to hang with others on this side of the ball. Our anemic offense is the key.

by TampaLen on Jan 12, 2012 7:54 AM EST reply actions  

Rec for research

We’ll never make splash plays in FA, so I wouldn’t be shocked if the Steelers brought back Fox, if Farrior or Foote isn’t back. I don’t think any ILB we draft will start right away, so we need insurance.

I voted for Grant, but after looking at his PFF stats, it looks like his only really good game was against the Rams. I think I’d rather get Hawthorne, but I bet the Steelers won’t even have a horse in that race.

With such a bad group of FA Gs, I think the Steelers need to invest a high draft pick in one.

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by John Stephens on Jan 12, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

Not sure what is everyone’s PFF but I would like to get Hawthrone. (Or what PFF really is)
I think Grant can be a solid LB at good money but that is just going off three games and only two of them I watched.

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

PFF = profootballfocus

A very in depth stats website

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by John Stephens on Jan 12, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you like and/or trust PFF?

I’ve heard some pretty poor reviews about the validity of thier analysis, both here and on other sites.

by average joe blow on Jan 12, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m mid road with it. It’s got some nice stuff, but sometimes they don’t account for scheme and assignments very well.

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by John Stephens on Jan 12, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Thought it might be that

One of those pay to see sites.

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

In starts

Grant Against Seahawks 12 tckls (6 solo), 1 sack 1 FF
Against Steelers 5 tckls (4 solo) 1 sfty 4 PD
Against Cardinals 11 tackles (10 solo), 1 PD
Against Rams 6 tckls ( 5 solo), 1sfty

I saw him in the Cards game and Steelers game, he look pretty solid in both run support and pass coverage and the Niners defense had little to no drop off with him in. He has 3-4 experience which is a plus. Like I said he will probably be at a price the Steelers are willing to pay and we need a younger ILB. I don’t like Hightower as of yet, want to see how he moves in space. I’d take Grant and get Peter Konz in the first fill two needs. Hawthrone would be great might cost more then the Steelers want though.

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

LBs

Any of the LB’s except for Fox, who solidified his way out of time with bonehead penalties that cost us.

by twault on Jan 12, 2012 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

How about any FA offensive coordinators?

I am not bashing BA, he has had some good moments, but he has also had his WTF moments as well. I started to write someone that can better utilize the talent we have, but I had a different thought. I wonder if BB was coached and instructed to look for the underneath stuff more consistently if that would meet the utilization criteria? How many times have we seen them move the ball effectively and efficiently using the quick, underneath stuff only to forget about that for several games? How many times has BB ignored a wide open 7-10 yard pass, to try to go for the 40 yard bomb only to have it go incomplete? Also, add some creativity and consistency to the mix.

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by ncmt40 on Jan 12, 2012 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

OC

WOULD BRIAN SCHOTTENHEIMER be better than ARIANS???

by stefan on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

No

He’s a Schottenheimer

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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 12, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

a bag of turkey guts

would be an improvement over Arians. Just an opinion…

by lkwdsteel on Jan 12, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If that was the guy from the Jets

then the answer is no.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 13, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

No

What I don’t like about Ariansis that he doesn’t attempt to break his tendencies. When I was playing in high school our defensive coach was math oriented. He and our defensive captains would watch the film and right down each offensive plays’ formation, skills personnel, down and distance, and play itself. They then look at the patterns and percentages to create a defensive game plan. If this is done with Arians you would see a pattern, and Arians doesn’t reconize this pattern. The easiest way to fix this is running the same play out of different formations a lot like the Saints and Packers do and with different personnel. Schottenheimer is just as predictable i his offensive scheme.
He also needs to adjust is passing route to be multi-tiered. It seems to me he is enamored by Ben ability to extend plays and almost counts on it. A majority of his plays include every route being at least 10 yards long. He need to try to adopt a philosophy of every pass play having a deep, intermediate and short route as well as a check down.

What I would like the team top do is have this off season Dick LeBeau self scout the offense and state what tendencies he found in formations, personnel and play call and then tell Arians that he needs to move away from these tendencies and become completely unpredictable.

Just my thoughts…

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

no

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone forget about Colon?

He should be healed up…wonder if he’ll make it through camp without another injury. OT should be OK with Starks, Colon and Gilbert…plus whoever is there for depth.

They need a stud ILB – go get a young one who can run, cover and hit. The primary need is a NT to eventually replace Big Snack.

by SteelheadOH on Jan 12, 2012 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

Didn't forget about Colon and you forgot about a lot of other things

Stark is a UFA and just injured his ACL that;s a 6-8 month injury.
Johnathan Scott is a UFA
Jamon Meredeth is a RFA (Meaning we can offer him a round graded tender, he can not sign it or sign with someone else for more money, if the latter happens we get a draft pick from them)
Ramon Foster who is the starting guard and can play tackle is a RFA
Colon is coming off a triceps injury not playing this season and prior to that missed the entire season with an Achilles tendon injury.

Who is there for depth? As of the start of Free Agents we have 2 tackles on the roster with playing experience, Marcus Gilbert and Willie Colon, and p.s. player Trevis Turner.

We need a backup OT. If Starks is healthy I’ll take him but we won’t know till probably after camp and who knows how much weight he is going to gain.

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I forgot...

Trai Essex is a UFA and Doug Legursky is an RFA

Total number of linemen on the roster at the start of Free Agency is four. Yes four!!!

Chris Kemoeatu, ( who is awful and could be off the team) Maurkice Pouncey, (who just had surgery on his ankle that he broke last year) , Willie Colon (who spent the last 2 years on IR) and Trevis Turner (rookie out of Albeleine Christian who spent year on P.S.).

That is it… we couldn’t even run a full starting offensive OTA with that.

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Five

Sorry forgot Gilbert so we could field an OL.

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think O-line is #1 in draft priority then

Any decent, healthy (key) and relatively inexpensive UFA would be welcome.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, lets forget about Colon

so he can be in IR again next year………..let him go

by lamberts58 on Jan 21, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

bring in couple

We NEED to sign at least 2 FA OL. And draft two more. I like starks but he is busted. We need some olinemen that have a shot of playing the whole season. Starks is great and saved our ass this year, but how does it help if he is injuried again.We could keep Legs. He isn’t the best but I kinda like him. He seems like a bull dog that want to fight.

If we let go of farrior and foote and ILB in free agency and the draft should be added. I think we should add a saftey or corner in FA. Not a big name but someone that can compete.

D line could use help. Mclendon, Heywood Ziggy and Kiesel is all I feel comfortable with right now. Big snack has been a stalwart but that weight is taking its toll, I just don’t think he has a full season in him.

For. The draft I think we should go 2-3 olin, 2 d line 2 DB and 2 best available. Maybe a RB, wr or qb

by Unleashed on Jan 12, 2012 7:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

We have seven picks as of now

You gave us eight at least and nine at most. Where are they coming from?

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by Steel34D on Jan 12, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Late compensatory picks, from whomever we release

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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
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Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Jan 13, 2012 3:11 AM EST up reply actions  

the compensentory picks are awarded for FA's who left LAST year

Players we release don’t count at all. Matt spaeth might get us a 7th rounder if we’re lucky

by hasay on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Spaeth was originally 3rd rounder

Did he get much playing time in Chicago?

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 13, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Might get a seventh from Spaeth

Maybe…

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by Steel34D on Jan 13, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s real real generous

by klompus on Jan 13, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

but the league is required to give out 32 compensatory picks. If they can’t find any one worthy they will give one to the Steelers. if not then theyw award them in draft order.

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by Steel34D on Jan 13, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's a nice comprehensive look at Comp picks

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/1/6/2686334/2012-compensatory-draft-pick-predictions

He thinks we’ll get a 7th for Spaeth.

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by John Stephens on Jan 13, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Forgot about Eason

He ended up starting for the Cardinals at NT because of injury, should definitely get a seventh for him.

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by Steel34D on Jan 13, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Will we get anything for Keyaron Fox?

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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 13, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

i live in DC area

saw a lot of Skins games and Fox played well and made a decent impact on the team. could get a 7th for him as well

by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 13, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The factors that have to do with it

is $/year and contribution

I don’t know where Fox’s contract numbers fall in but I think it maybe short of what is the required amount. However I am just guessing and too lazy to look it up right now.

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by Steel34D on Jan 14, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

my bad

Got all excited about having line depth. Take a db or oline out of my selections.

by Unleashed on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Another thing to consider with Starks....

He’s certainly never been considered a workout junkie so how quickly do you think his rehab process will be? And then when he’s finally fully healed, how heavy will he be after months of inactivity. I’d forget about Starks completely for the 2012 season.

by average joe blow on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm afraid you might be right...

…look what happened to him last year, surgery and a lock-out, and they cut him due to weight issues. He won’t even be able to do strong cardio until March/April at the earliest.

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by PaVaSteeler on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Starks and agree he isn’t a good option for next year. Unless we sign him in December bc injury

by Unleashed on Jan 13, 2012 1:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

agee and this also applies to Hampton

Hampton isnt known for trying to get into game shape and conditioning himself for the long haul, so we have to wonder how much he will dedicate himself to rehab on his knee. So, in reality, we will have these guys on the roster, and a couple games in they will be on IR the rest of the season, hence loosing a roster spot for a player who can play. Seasons past and present Ie, Hampton, Colon, Smith, Sepulveda, etc. Hurt the whole season,, when we can have a young player developing and earning a roster spot.

by lamberts58 on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

agee on all points

we def. have to draft a NT in the draft, somewhere in the first 1-3 rounds.

by lamberts58 on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

No one wants to touch Finnegan or Griffin from Tennessee right?

I say sign Grant and roll the dice on a OG, NT or CB in the first round of the draft.

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by Jon Ross on Jan 13, 2012 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

great post

would love to see them get Gaither, and with Starks and his leg injury, it might take a full 6 to 12 months recovery. I think the Steelers have a lot of major moves to be thought about and possible acting on this off season. They kind of put themselves in this “over the cap” situation, and this year, they truely have to make some serious moves.

Also like Connor, Grant, Henne and Scobee.

by lamberts58 on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Nice post

I like the idea of Grant and Prater. Doesn’t Gaither have a history of injuries? Maybe it is just my faulty memory. I just want to see us get some guys who will not spend half the season with nagging injuries or on IR. Two seasons in a row with far too many injuries.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 14, 2012 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah he was injured going into last offseason

That prevented him from going any where but he supposedly is healthy now…
Can’t be any worse then Starks or Colon or Kemo arthritic knees.

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by Steel34D on Jan 14, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  


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