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My Mock Draft 2.0 and Off-season Decisions




I want to start this post by stating that currently the Steelers are well over the estimated salary cap for the 2013 season. The average overage I have see is roughly fifteen million to twenty million dollars over the cap. So in this version of my mock draft I am not only going to state my picks but also some of my decision for the Steelers personnel. In short I am pretending to be Kevin Colbert...so here it goes.

Star-divide

- Free Agency-

Retires- Aaron Smith, James Farrior, Chris Hoke

Cuts-

Cut Chris Kemoeatu, cut Johnathan Scott, cut Bryant McFadden, cut Arnaz Battle, cut Larry Foote, cut Shaun Suisham cut Johnathan Dwyer, cut John Clay

Restructures-

Hines Ward- Ward is a veteran that keep the members of "Young Money" in check. He is definitely welcome to come back but not at his current salary, Bring him back at severely reduced pay. At this rate though it might be better to get a rookie who can contribute and play special teams.

Casey Hampton- Casey is coming off an ACL injury heading into next season. The Steelers will look to lower his cap number by restructuring and reducing his pay.

Heath Miller- restructure his deal by posiibly adding on years to get cap hit down

Adds-

Tender Mike Walace a 1st and a 3rd then work a deal that is heavily back loaded

Sign Ramon Foster to a two year deal

Sign Keenan Lewis

Sign Isaac Redman, Steve McLendon Jeremy Kappinos to just above minimum,

Sign William Gay ( if you would have asked me a year ago I would have laugh in your face at this idea)

Sign Larry Grant, ILB San Francisco to a four year deal worth roughly 3 million a year average.

Sign Matt Prater, K Bronco

Sign Chad Henne, QB Dolphins

The Draft-

1st Round- Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin:

Konz is an incredibly intelligent and football smart prospect. He made all of the calls for Wisconsin's offensive line. He can quickly recognize and adjust to blitzes and stunts. Great feet and ability to drop his pad level. Has a very good pop when coming out of his stance. Konz also is a very good technician that understands angles and blocking. Nasty, tough Olinemen who will finish plays to the whistle. He is 6'5" 315lbs and as a taller guard leverage can be an issue when tired however he does a great job of using his hands to reestablish leverage and anchor. He could start day one and be an instant upgrade at Guard. He could also give the Steelers a very reliable back up at center.Closest player comparison Matt Birk, C, Ravens

2nd Round- Alemeda Ta'amu, DT Washington:

Ta'amu is a prototypical NT prospect in the 3-4 defense. He is 6'3" 337lbs and is very strong. Ta'amu has a good intial step and plays low. Ta'mu has very good lower and upper body strength. He is surprisingly quick for a 337lbs man. However some negative are his short arms. They may hurt his ability against NFL caliber linemen. He alsocan be walled off in block more often then you would like and though he is strong enough to push a double team their are time where he completely loses to it. Closest player comparison, Phil Taylor DT Browns.

3rd Round- Aimini Silatolu OG/OT Midwestern State:

Silatolu is the prototypical size for a NFL guard at 6'3" 324lbs. He is a former LT who posses good quick feet and ability in pass protection. Silatolu however is also a mauler in the running game, choosing to finish block. Bends at the knees and can create a good low center of gravity. He can have a tendency to play high and it seems he hasn't been ask to be in a 3 point stance a lot but Silatolu is intriguing prospect. However coming from Midwestern State he has very little NFL competition he played against. Therefore Silatolu play in the Senior Bowl and practices before are vital for his draft status. I like his ability and he could start day one but more likely to start half way through the season or next year. Closest player comparison Willie Colon who is 6'3" 315 and a 4th round pick out of Hofstra who was also projected better at guard.

4th Round- Jarius Wright WR Arkansas:

I know what you are thinking another WR there is no way. Think about it though after this season both Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown will be RFAs can they afford both? And what about the injury issue. Wright gives the team a quick very sharp route running WR. He also ahs some speed with an estimated 4.34 forty time. Wright has solid hand and one of his only real knocks is his size. He is 5'10" 180lbs. He will need to put at least 10lbs on his frame but Wright should fit...well "right" in with "Young Money" Definitely a BPA pick. Best player comparison Antonio Brown.

5th Round- Evan Rodriguez, FB/TE/H-Back Temple:

Rodriguez is 6'2" 250lbs player who position should state athlete. He fits perfectly in the role David Johnson had in Bruce Arians' offense except more of a threat in the passing game. Rodriguez is quick for his size and has decent speed. He exhibits some pop off the line when blocking in the TE position. When asked to pull from the H-Back position he did so very well. He is a very clean route running with very good hand. Rodriguez can line up as a FB and run the ball of block. He can line up at the TE and block or be a legitimate passing target. He can also line up in the slot or as an HB and run receiver routes. Rodriguez is a great fit for the Bruce Arians offense as a "FB". Closest player comparison Aaron Hernadez.

6th Round- Adrian Robinson, OLB Temple:

Robinson is a high motor who will never quit on a play. Has played everywhere along Temple front from De to OLB rushing to dropping in to coverage. He is a football savy guy who has a nice first step. Unfortunately he can take a wasted step a lot. He is 6'1" 250lbs. He isn't really explosive and has only a little below average arm length. This guy hoever will be a good special team player who could develop into a solid back up for Woodley at LOLB. Closest player comparison Justin Houstin OLB Kansas City.

7th Round- Christian Thompson FS, South Carolina State:

Actually don't know too much I know he is 6'1" 206lbs. I know he is estimated to run a 4.45 40 time and I have heard through fan rumors that is has some intangible he can bring to the table. To me that sums up what I am looking for a guy who can play special teams and maybe develop into something more.

7th Round Compensatory- Dominique Hamilton DT Missouri:

Dominique Hamilton is 6'5" 305lbs. He has long arms and a thick frame that looks athletic. When he stays low has great explosion off the line. Is very aware and at his best against the run. Has the lower body strength to drive back blockers. doesn't use his hands well and get his pad level high. However all of the mistake Hamilton makes are coachable. He also has a frame that he can fill out and put 15-25 more lbs on if he wants. This mean Hamilton can play either the 5 technique or gain the wieght and play the NT. I like him as a 5 tech for the Steelers and could develope to a rotational guy in a year or two if given the chance.

So there it is I would have drafted 2 Guards, a NT, a WR, a FB/TE, a OLB, a FS and a DE/DT after addressing ILB, K and QB in Free Agency.

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I quite like these ideas but what about Cotchery ? I would try and sign him long term, offering Wallace a one year tender so that at the draft R$ we can pull in another ILB where we are a bit short staffed – but i like your ideas !

by Sch Lotan on Jan 16, 2012 7:58 AM EST reply actions  

Broncos

especially now that the Broncos have signed Tyler Grisham – our long tome PS WR

by Sch Lotan on Jan 17, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Think about it though after this season both Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown will be RFAs can they afford both?

Who would Sanders be drawing attention from with his career 50 recs, 664 yards, and 4 TDs in two seasons? Also, I think Brown is a stud, but he won’t be receiving offers for top dollar. Well, not yet at least. He hasn’t proved he has a nose for the endzone with only 2 career receiving TDs despite being a huge part in the Steelers offense this season. Sometimes, we overhype our own players a bit too much.

With cutting 2 ILBs and only signing one I would be surprised if the Steelers did not draft a guy for a fourth spot.

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

I really don't think so

What returners have been payed a lot? It’s more important to be a good WR.

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

With 2 career touchdowns. You’re crazy if you think teams will give him #1 WR money without more TDs.

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he's very comparable to ARE in terms of value

It’ll depend on how much or if we extend MW and how the rest of the depth chart looks at that point but I don’t think it’s crazy to think he’ll get something around 5 or even 6 mill a year.

by average joe blow on Jan 16, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll be shocked if he does without more receiving TDs.

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

ARE had 3 TDs through his first two years - AB has two

ARE ended his four year run in PIT with 7 so he wasn’t exactly a great red zone threat either.

by average joe blow on Jan 16, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Washington has to be interested in him. Every team isn’t that dumb.

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

point is

Mike Wallace should already be getting a contract this offseason. If AB continues to show his stuff he want a nice size contract as well. If Sanders has a good, healthy next year he’ll be drawing some interest trust me.

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I still think your over hyping them a bit. I think we’ll be able to sign AB and Sanders reasonably, but not Wallace.

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Like your roster moves.

Not sure about cutting BOTH Farrior n Foote. Need one of em for depth.

If we draft a WR, he needs to have size. Most elite teams have a dominant physical Wr. We need that endzone threat.

Would like to see a FS taken higher.

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by SteelerMessican on Jan 16, 2012 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

Technically I said Farrior retired

We definitely would have to cut one and restructure another cause Footes cap hit is like 3M and I think Farriors’ is 6M

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Farrior's is close to $2.8M

he will be cheaper to keep than Foote next year

by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Good to know don't know why I thought it was higher

We could always cut Foote and sign him back cheaper if Farrior retires, though heard his agent said he want to play his last year out,

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Wright was just a BPA cause the 4th round didn’t have any great prospects, as far

Would like to see a FS taken higher.

That’s hilarious cause when I took Markell Martin in the 2nd every one was giving me crap, I was so close to taking him cause again I am not sold on Ta’amu honestly. There is a NT out of BYU who I also liked he is a former USC guy who transferred cause his home was broken into and he didn’t feel his wife was safe. Herbon Fangupo 6’1" 331lbs he played 5 tech at BYU. He has a great burst and good anchor ability but need to keep his pads down more and use his hands better. We could get him in the 5th or 6th.

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Is anyone sold on Ta’amu?

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Not really

I believe that is why he slipped form a first round prospect to a mid to late second round prospect. He doesn’t have character issues, his motor is suspect but his physical ability to play a NT is in question. Might be better at the 1 technique in my opinion.

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Way wrong on that comment

Rewatched a lot more tape. His motor wasn’t suspect his conditioning was. When he got tired he played high. He actually hurt himself as a 1 tech shooting gaps the wrong way. He has impressive quickness off the line and quickness for a big guy. He is rarely pushed out of the way in the run game and has some pass rushing moves. I think we could do worst with him. Still worried about arm length and the fact he can’t push back double teams even with his strength. However when double teamed he isn’t push either.

If he works on staying low he could be a solid NFL NT I don’t know if he can be Hampton good but who knows..

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by Steel34D on Jan 17, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Instead of making another post I'll put my updated mock here

I do think its time to go in a new direction with the ILB as we need to let Farrior go. Love the guy its just that time. I think this is a need draft if we hope to win the Super Bowl next year, we have to fill holes at the ILB and the OG positions or we will be screwed.

I don’t think the Steelers make all of those last three FA signings. They build through the draft and will only sign one or two FAs. Also I don’t think we cut Dwyer and I think we restruction McFadden for special teams.

Here is what I would add

Sign Max Starks. Starks was injured last year and came to camp over weight. Plus we can sign him for cheap, according to RT standards. He plays decent enough and we aren’t in position to draft a premier RT. Plus Max and Ben has a good bond together. We also don’t have enough depth at the tackle position to just cut quality players. Gilbert is in grooming to take Max’s spot but I don’t believe he is ready for it yet. Make him earn it.

Sign Jerrico Cotchery. Jerrico is like Hines 2.0. I love his vertern leadership, while he dropped a big pass in the Denver game, I see value in him coming back as a 4th/ 5th WR.

Sign Plaxico Burress. With the fiasco in NY I believe Burress will want out and want to go somewhere familiar and stable. There were interest before the season started and I think Burress can contribute as a 3b WR alongside Emmanuel Sanders. He gives the offense a tall WR to help in the redzone, which we struggle with, and it would give us one of the best WR core in the league top to bottom. Plus if he follows Mike Vick’s example, his second year out of prison should be a good one.

Here is my draft. I don’t see us taking a Safety this year, I think that will be next year, Clark had one of his best seasons and Troy is still Troy. Word is we could receive two 7th round compensatory picks but since that isn’t officially announced I’m not adding that. If anything I would just use the normal 7th round draft pick to trade up in the second to make sure we get a good Guard.

1. Zach Brown – OLB/ILB – North Carolina – 6’2 230 lbs 4.4s 40

Had to make a change to the top pick after Wexel tweeted that Burfict would not be on the Steelers draft board – they believe he is too much of a head case. So I am changing this pick to Zach Brown from UNC. As much as it pains me to see the Steelers take a tarheel I believe they must do so here. Burfict is off the board and none of the other ILB I have confidence in defending the passing game. Zach Brown would be a real game changer in this defense. He would have to add bulk to his frame but with his 4.4 speed he can lose a tenth of a second off his 40 and still have plenty of speed to cover tight Ends and running backs although I beieve he could add 10 -15 pounds and not lose any speed. We would have to teach him the ILB position but this guy’s size and speed make him a force to be reckoned with. Also he has shown great instincts in the passing game and is good at stopping the run. I have us taking an ILB here because of the positional value. I believe the Steelers value ILB position over the G position. Then when you add the fact there are plenty of guys with value in the 2nd round for a guard and not any for an ILB I think this is where they move here. The other option is NT but with Casey Hampton and Steve McLendon coming back next year I think they will wait on drafing a NT replacement. Also I don’t see them spending three first round picks on their defensive line, thats a lot of money tied up in one position. Especially since the Nt position value is somewhat diminished with this becoming an passing league.

2. Kevin Zeitler – G – Wisconsin – 6’4 312 lbs

Zeitler has been doing a great job these season paving the way for Monte Ball and protecting Russell Wilson. The later is which why I pick him. We need a legit guard that can keep Ben upright and open up holes for Mendenhall. I believe Zeitler is that guy, he should be there in the second round too. Our offensive line would then be from right to left, Starks, Zeitler, Pouncey, Gilbert, Colon. Which isn’t a bad line if we can avoid injuries and those who are injured can come back healthy and playing at their normal level. That also gives us good depth since Foster and Legursky would be coming off the bench, with Essex backing up the tackle positions. I understand the desire to draft Konz in the 1st and if we do we might as well cut legursky, we’ll see if that happens.

3. Josh Chapman – NT – Alabama – 6’1 310 lbs

Chapman is in the mold of the more smaller/athletic NTs. But he still does a great job of stuffing the run. I’m not sure if he will be here but the NT class this year is weak and there are at least two prospect ahead of Chapman. I’m not sure why though, it may be his measurables or his lack of pass rushing abilities but this guy has been part of a historic defense in Alabama and he has performed well. His talents were on display in the National Championship game where when I saw him, he got good push and was double teamed on occasion. I’ll take him and let him learn behind Hampton for at least a year before taking the reigns.

4. Jared Crick – DT/DE – Nebraska – 6’6 285 lbs 4.8s 40

This is the pick that I think could be the steal of the draft. If there aren’t any good NT in the 3rd round I wouldn’t mind taking him in the third just to make sure we got him. Crick is a first round talent DT that averaged 9 sacks a year and 70 tackles and 14 tackles for loss in two years. So why is he so far down here? He injured his pectoral muscle this season and will likely not be able to contribute in his first season in the NFL until the end of the regular season. That is why he has fallen from anywhere in the 2nd to the 4th round. But since the Steelers have already drafted Heyward and Hood and they have Kesiel to sub in, they don’t need Crick to play right away. Crick height and long arms are sure to get in passing lanes of QBs and his height allows him to be able to pick up 10 – 20 lbs of muscle without losing speed. Crick would dominate as a 5 technique DE, consuming blocks while getting to the QB. He may overtake Hood for the starting role, he has that much potential.

5. Brock Osweiler – QB – Arizone State – 6’8 240 lbs 4.7s 40

Osweiler is a 4th – 5th round pick, if he is there I think the Steelers should take him for a couple reasons. Ben can’t play forever and with Batch and Dixon gone we will need a 3rd string QB. Osweiler has a good arm and is big like Ben while still having good speed. He is very raw though and will learn behind Ben to be the back up QB eventually and may be a starter else where if he progresses fast.

6. Quinn Sharp – K – Oklahoma State

I wasn’t quite sold on Sharp especially for a 6th round pick, sure he had set the NCAA record for most touchbacks in a season, sure he was 20-23 in FGs this year but that didn’t impress me. Kicking a 62 yard FG does. The Steelers haven’t had a kicker that could be accurate from 50+ yards since Gary Anderson wore black and gold. Being able to get points when you only get to the 35 yard line is a huge asset to an offense. Again the Steelers would be the 2nd seed of the AFC if they had a kicker they could trust. There recent kicker missed a FG and they wasn’t trusted to hit a ~40 yard FG at the end of the game that would have put the game out of reach if he had made his previous one or at least made it so the Ravens could only tie. I say work Sharp out and if he has no trouble kicking in Hinez field then make sure you get him.

7. Antoine McClain, G, Clemson – 6’6 330 lbs

Starks will eventually need to be replace by Gilbert at LT. So we should groom a guard to replace Gilbert at Guard. McClain had a nice season and was decent in pass and run blocking, we should coach him up, build his strength, let him drop about 15 lbs to be come more mobile and lean and in a couple years he could possible start at the Guard position. Its the seventh round so there are always hopes and dreams here.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

Would like this

Only problem I have with it is Osweiler in the 5th, solely for the reason that he won’t be there. Some are saying he’ll go in the second round, and after Dalton’s ascension last year along with that of others like Kaepernick and Ponder, I wouldn’t be surprised.

Wex is not a fan of Burfict? That’s a shame, I would’ve liked to see him and Harrison menacing the league together.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jan 16, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Always expect QBs to go higher than expected

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

my bad

I should have accounted for the positional value

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you signing Max Starks for 2012 or further in the future?

I have a hard time envisioning a guy with a highly questionable work ethic returning from a significant knee injury in time to be much help in 2012. If he showed up at nearly 400 pounds after an offseason when he was healthy, he might have to go on the biggest loser after an offseason spent rehabbing a bum knee.

by average joe blow on Jan 16, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

highly questionable work ethic

from what? cause the guy had a neck injury last year and wasn’t cleared to workout by the doctors? When he was cleared he worked his tail off to make the team? I’d sign him for about a 3 year deal.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

How many times has Starks dealt with weight issues?

That’s why he orginally lost his RT job when Tomlin came aboard. He’s always struggled with his weight and a bum knee won’t help.

by average joe blow on Jan 16, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

don't recall that at all

he didn’t lose his job until this past off season with his neck surgery

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

He lost his RT job because he moved to LT

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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 16, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

lol do you know how that sounds

yea he lost the RT job so he took over the more difficult LT job.

That doesn’t make any sense. LT is a more difficult position because you handle the best pass rusher on that side and its the blind side. You don’t lose the RT job and then go to LT, if you lose the RT job you go to the bench, unless you have a left handed QB.

Clearly you don’t know what you are talking about.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

No Starks did go to the bench

Then Marvel Smith got injured and he took over for him. A franchise tag and a long term contract later and he still has his LT spot but I alway thought he was better suited for RT not LT.

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That may be correct

but the overall point was that Starks didn’t have work ethic. Which has never been the case with Starks. You don’t go to LT if you are bad at RT. It just doesn’t work that way. Clearly he has worked hard enough to make due at LT.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

He lost the RT battle and went to the bench

Then later down the road Smith got hurt and Starks was inserted because they had no body else.

You keep banking on Starks coming back next year and we’ll see how that turns out.

by average joe blow on Jan 18, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Zach Brown is not physical enough to play a 3-4 ILB

And there is no way Jared Crick falls to the 4th round. I understand his history of injury but he is consider a first to high second round prospect I think at most he falls to the top of the third. he injured himself in last October he should be healthy in time for training camp.

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

and I said it before

Quinn Sharp is good I have no problems taking him but he has not declared yet and unlike Konz I haven’t found anything yet about him inquiring about his draft status or getting an agent. The fact is Kicker just don’t come out early. Don’t think he’ll be an option in the 2012 draft.

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

we'll see

there are other kickers so thats not such a big deal

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Kickers

Why waste a draft pick for college kicker. Sign a proven NFL free-agent kicker!

by GeorgeQUAD on Jan 16, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yea i don't buy that not physical enough

i just think he needs to buik up. get stronger and the physicality will be there, again if not him I’d take Ronnel Lewis

As for Crick, I don’t know where he will fall just a guess.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

also pectoral injuries can take a year to come back from

which mean he won’t be ready to play until october/november.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

If Burfict ends up with the Ravens and ends up not being a head case I will be so furious.

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm the same way

but that is the way its looking right now

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

this is from one of the guys at walterfootball

NFL sources who know Burfict well from coaching him have told us that he is not a bad kid, just ultracompetitive, and as a result can be overly aggressive during games. Burfict should be told to go all out, and the team that drafts him should just accept having some penalties in exchange for an intimidating playmaker in the middle of its defense.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 16, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You won't be the only one

He’s James Harrison 2.0 IMO

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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally Steel34D...

The first four picks in the draft should be OL and ILB. I would restock the DL with free agents this year or later draft picks.

Why are you restructuring Hines Ward for next year? He has no value to the team, it’s time for him to move on, make the tough decision, he can’t get open anymore.

Why are you cutting Clay and Dwyer and not Moore, Baron Batch is back next year and a better option that Moore, we need to get younger as a team and this is the year to start it.

by ColinP on Jan 16, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

Seeing as

Baron Batch has never taken a snap in the regular season, im not sure he is a better option than moore…. and saying Hines has no value to this team is just asinine.

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by Paulie58 on Jan 16, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

So Paulie58

Show we how Hines Ward adds value to this team after what happened with him last year, who does he beat out to get playing time at 4 million a year. If you stopped think with your heart and love for Ward your eyes would open. I love the guy also, but it’s time.

by ColinP on Jan 16, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

his value is intagible

On the field he’s no better than our 5th wideout but he does have some value mentoring and coaching younger players. I tend to put a value on that around the league minimum, other value it more, others don’t value it at all.

by average joe blow on Jan 16, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

If you stopped thinking with your Madden controller in your hand

and actually knew something about football, you’d actually know that Hines Ward is still a fine WR when he isnt taking headshots from Ray Lewis or running streaks. He finds the holes in a zone better than anyone on this team (except maybe Heath). Hines is one of the best leaders by example I’ve ever seen in football, and he adds something to our young receiver core that no one else could.

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by Paulie58 on Jan 16, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He can't get open

because he doesn’t have a burst. You don’t have to have a 4.4 40 to get open, a great burst is more important becaue it allows you to get open. Hines doesn’t have it anymore. You don’t keep a receiver because he can block or just because he can mentor young players. Jericho Cotchery has been around the block a few times and we have coaches that coach the WR..

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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 16, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Moore is a Free Agent already I didn't need to cut him

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the top 3 need to be GG and ILB. After that I don’t care.

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by John Stephens on Jan 16, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice Post

I think I’m on the same page with most of your offseason moves. Not sure we’ll get those guys in free agency, but I wouldn’t change anything.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jan 16, 2012 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

Probably not a good idea to cut Dwyer

with Mendenhall starting the season on the PUP list and not to sure if Moore being back.

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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Jan 16, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

Valid points

but my guess is he is going to come into camp heavy and in my opinion that is a sign of a player not taking their job seriously. If he drops like 7 to 10lbs and come in shape I’d keep but if not oh well.

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Dwyer

People keep forgetting about Dwyer having A.D.D.. He can be very serious about his game but unless he builds proper coping strategies into his life (possibly including appropriate medication) he will struggle being prepared for the start of the season. Failing that, he needs to put himself into a structured environment, possibly with a life coach or trainer, where many of the day to day things that are required to stay in shape are planned out for him and and regulated.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I Like the Additions! ^^^

But i think we might cut Hampton as well AkA “Big Snack”. But we have to keep the “Young Money WR Crew” together. Wallace, Brown & Sanders, Give Wallace, 5yrs 30mil, Brown 5yrs 22mil, Sanders 6yrs, & retires of A.Smith, Hampton, Farrior, Foote, etc. We Be Fine….Im looking to the Draft & will make my own Mock Draft in the near future & put it up here.

by jRaGsDaLe717 on Jan 16, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Steel34D

I had been working on a draft since the weekend, I just posted it then read yours. We have the same thoughts on Wright and Robinson, great minds and all!

I do not think Ta’amu will be there when we pick in the 2nd round. I have seem some mocks dropping him there, but I can’t see it. He will go earlier than that, much earlier.

Don’t you think we can get Hamilton as a UFA? If you can get Ta’amu in the 2nd, would you still go for Hamilton here? How about Matt Conrath and sliding him over to DE, practice squad him and let him learn the position and bulk up some.

by imike29 on Jan 16, 2012 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

Like the draft

Wouldn’t draft a wide out though- would never take a wr in the 4th. Like the draft and agree w the cuts

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by ALDOG on Jan 16, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

I think only Squeezie and Battle are going to be gone before TC.

The rest will make it to training camp and I wouldn’t be surprised if 3 or more are still on the team for opening day.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

I didn't say these cut were before the start of training camp

Nor did I say they were after. Some of the guy we are better suited to keep till after June 1st because there contract cap hit will go pn to 2013 instead of this years.

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  


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