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Five Different Draft Scenarios

Well I do this a couple times a year after the Steelers are eliminated from the playoffs. I will post five different drafts and make a poll and you guys will vote on your favorite one. I am assuming we get two 7th round compensatory picks because that is what everything I have read is assuming.

Scenario 1

No Trades - Stay put and pick BPA

In this scenario they make no trades and take what falls to them. Paige-Moss was a 1st round prospect entering the year but after an awful year, his stock is in the toilet. However he still has the potential to be an elite pass rusher and maybe, just maybe, James Harrison can motivate him to get him to reach his full potential. If not, you cut him after camp. It is worth the risk.

Round 1 Pick 24: Peter Konz, OG/OC, Wisconsin

Round 2 Pick 24: Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington

Round 3 Pick 24: Amini Silatolu, OG/OT, Midwestern State

Round 4 Pick 24: Chris Marve, ILB, Vanderbilt

Round 5 Pick 24: Harrison Smith, FS, Notre Dame

Round 6 Pick 24: Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida

Round 7 Pick 24: Donte Paige-Moss, DE/OLB, North Carolina

Round 7 Compensatory: Derek Moye, WR, Penn State

Round 7 Compensatory: Austin Davis, QB, Southern Miss

Star-divide

Scenario 2

Trade up in round 1 with Arizona Cardinals - Round 1 Pick 13 and Round 6 Pick 13 for Round 1 Pick 24 and Round 2 Pick 24

In this scenario the Steelers make a big move to get David DeCastro by jumping the Dallas Cowboys. They decide they want two new starting guards and take Edwards, who had an awesome year this year. Fangupo has a ton of potential at the NT and could replace Hampton in the future. He is the only NT in the draft class with some pass rushing skills. They get Harnish as the backup QB of the future and Powell, Dye, and Rainey all have loads of potential. I like Powell because of his versatility. He, like Paige-Moss, came into the year as a 1st/2nd round prospect but had a sub-par year. He can also play DT in 4 down sets. Dye is a big hitter who just needs to learn the position. In this scenario, the Steelers wait until round 7 to get a kicker and get the 2nd best kicker in the class.

Round 1 Pick 13: David DeCastro, OG, Stanford

Round 3 Pick 24: Lonnie Edwards, OG, Texas Tech

Round 4 Pick 24: Hebron Fangupo, NT, BYU

Round 5 Pick 24: Chandler Harnish, QB, Northern Illinois

Round 6 Pick 24: Tydreke Powell, DT/DE, North Carolina

Round 7 Pick 24: Randy Bullock, K, Texas A&M

Round 7 Compensatory: Tony Dye, S, UCLA

Round 7 Compensatory: Chris Rainey, RB/WR/KR, Florida

Scenario 3

Trade back in round 1 and up in round 2

Trade Round 1 Pick 24 and Round 5 Pick 24 to the Baltimore Ravens for Round 1 Pick 30 and Round 3 Pick 30

Trade 2013 2nd round pick and Round 3 Pick 24 to the Minnesota Vikings for Round 2 Pick 3

This scenario involves lots of wheeling and dealing and a trade with a rival. However, the Ravens are going to covet Vontaze Burfict and might be willing to move up to get him. The Steelers then take Barron in round 1 to groom as the safety of the future. They double dip on the OL in round 2 and get two franchise guards. In round 7 they take a chance on the injured Omar Bolden. Bolden came into the season as a possible 1st round pick but tore his ACL. He excels in man coverage and if he can work out at the combine, might be a 5th round pick. If not, he will be lucky to get picked. However, the Steelers can afford to be patient with him and let him develop. He has the potential to be a #1 corner in the league. Nassib is a good QB that does not have much potential to become a starter but he should be a good backup that can be trusted to take care of the ball.

Round 1 Pick 30: Mark Barron, S, Alabama

Round 2 Pick 3: Kelechi Osemele, OT/OG, Iowa State

Round 2 Pick 24: Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin

Round 3 Pick 30: Audie Cole, ILB, N.C. State

Round 4 Pick 24: Hebron Fangupo, NT, BYU

Round 6 Pick 24: Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida

Round 7 Pick 24: Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State

Round 7 Compensatory: Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse

Round 7 Compensatory: Chris Rainey, RB/WR/KR, Florida

Scenario 4

Trade Mike Wallace, Round 2 Pick 24 and 2013 3rd round pick to Jacksonville for Round 1 Pick 7, Round 4 Pick 7, and 2013 Round 6 Pick

In this scenario the Steelers make a blockbuster trade to move up to #7 and keep their #24 pick. At #7 they select a franchise LT in Jonathan Martin. With Max Starks health a ?, they might think a LT is needed. I think our OL would be Martin/Konz/Pouncey/Gilbert/Colon, which would make our OL go from one of the worst in the league to potentially, one of the best. In the 4th round they take two potential starters in Taylor and Fangupo. I described Fangupo above, but Taylor is an athletic, hard-hitting safety with good ball skills. He could play ST while being groomed by Ryan Clark and Troy Polamalu. In the 5th round, the Steelers take burner Joe Adams to attempt to replace Mike Wallace. With the compensatory picks, the Steelers try and improve the H-Back position and add a RB to the mix in case Mendenhall can't be back for next year.

Round 1 Pick 7: Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford

Round 1 Pick 24: Peter Konz, OG/OC, Wisconsin

Round 3 Pick 24: Audie Cole, ILB, N.C. State

Round 4 Pick 7: Brandon Taylor, FS, LSU

Round 4 Pick 24: Hebron Fangupo, NT, BYU

Round 5 Pick 24: Joe Adams, WR/KR, Arkansas

Round 6 Pick 24: Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida

Round 7 Pick 24: Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State

Round 7 Compensatory: Philip Lutzenkirchen, FB/TE/H-back, Auburn

Round 7 Compensatory: Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson

Scenario 5:

1st and 3rd round tender for Mike Wallace and another team signs him despite of this (I think the Jaguars have the combination of cap space and desperate need for a #1 WR to make this move) - Trade 2013 Jaguars 1st Round Pick and Round 3 Pick 24 to Dallas Cowboys for Round 1 Pick 14 and Round 5 Pick 17

In this scenario the Steelers tender Mike Wallace but can't work out a deal and the Jaguars claim him. The Steelers get the Jaguars 1st and 3rd round picks which gives them the versatility to trade in the 1st round. They make a deal with the Cowboys by giving up the #1 pick that the Jags gave them to get Wallace and in the 1st round the Steelers get DeCastro and a franchise #1 WR to replace Wallace. Sanu is the best route runner in the class, has 4.4 speed, and incredible hands. The Steelers take Massie in round 5, who is a swing tackle prospect that projects as a very good backup tackle with starting potential. With Starks questionable to be healthy by next year, adding a tackle in the middle rounds would make sense. The Steelers also take Lindsay and Martin, who are both 4-3 prospects that excel in the pass rush. They would be able to pair Lindsay and Martin with McClendon and Hood to create a 4 down linemen set and give Dick Lebau another option. That pairing would likely be used on passing downs with Timmons, Woodley, and Harrison at the LB spots. How lethal would that be?

Round 1 Pick 14: David DeCastro, OG, Stanford

Round 1 Pick 24: Mohammed Sanu, WR, Rutgers

Round 2 Pick 24: Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington

Round 4 Pick 24: Chris Marve, ILB, Vanderbilt

Round 5 Pick 17: Bobby Massie, OT, Mississippi

Round 5 Pick 24: Brandon Lindsay, DE, Pittsburgh

Round 6 Pick 24: Mike Martin, DT, Michigan

Round 7 Pick 24: Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State

Round 7 Compensatory: D.C. Jefferson, TE, Rutgers

Round 7 Compensatory: Randy Bullock, K, Texas A&M

Poll
Which draft was your favorite draft? (Make sure you think about the 2013 draft picks that were traded)
Scenario 1
48 votes
Scenario 2
13 votes
Scenario 3
17 votes
Scenario 4
36 votes
Scenario 5
29 votes

143 votes | Poll has closed

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in scenario 5

why would they trade the #7 overall pick and a 3rd rounder for the #14 overall pick and a 5th rounder?

by steeltown86 on Jan 16, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Because future first round picks are worth less than current picks

The Jaguars could win it all next year or they could finish last in the league. It is just uknown. That is why when a GM is trading for a future 1st round pick they usually get a higher pick then the other team for the current year

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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 16, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Not true

When you place a tender on a player and another team signs him, you get that teams pick for the next year’s draft, not the current draft. So if we place a 1st/3rd tender on Wallace and the Jags claim him, we get their 1st and 3rd round picks in 2013.

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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 16, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

o ok

i thought it would be from this upcoming draft. now i understand what u mean

by steeltown86 on Jan 16, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Voted 4

But it’s never going to happen. I like all of those scenarios, though. Looking forward to reading more about draft prospects in the coming weeks.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 16, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

If you want to get a head start you can check out my draft site

I have been working extensively on the draft since the Steelers loss

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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 16, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks good

Thanks, I added it to my Bookmarks on my Blackberry.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 17, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Wallace Tender Taker

I don’t believe anyone would take Wallace for the 1st + 3rd option unless it was someone who was drafting very low on the ladder… i.e. NE though I don’t see them being willing to sign Wallace if it was going to give the Steelers more draft choices.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Thinking a lot a like

Really like Herbon Fangupo former USC player who transfered because he was worried about his wife after their house was broken into. He played DE in the 3-4 at BYU but at 6’1’ 331lbs he would be good as a NT. I think he could be come a starter. Great explosion off the ball but he plays high.

I have already said what I think about Silatolu way before the draft coverage started. I think he could be the next great guard taken in the third round. Still want to see him play to make final decision.

Derek Moye is a tall fast for his size receiver with good hands whose draft stock was hurt by the QB play of Penn State. If he learn how to run route cleaner could be a good WR in the league and Hines is great at teaching that.

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

From what I have seen, round 4 seems too early

I think he will be around in a later round, of course a good combine performance can change that. It’s too bad he’s not playing in Senior Bowl, or the East-West Shrine Bowl.

by Greig Clawson on Jan 16, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now 4 is too early

He was rated as a 6-7th round prospect if he dominates at the game could go up as high as for My guess is he will be a 5th or 6th round prospect though. Great run stuffer!

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by Steel34D on Jan 16, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Konz makes sense

High ankle sprains are similar to dislocated shoulders, in the sense that they never fully rebound, and are prone to re-injury. Having another quality offensive lineman who could fill in at center, and play at a high level, would be a great insurance policy in the event that Pouncey continues to injure his ankle. It would also give Pouncey another set of eyes to help him call the correct protection for the O-line.

by Greig Clawson on Jan 16, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Makes sense to me too

I read somewhere that in this year’s draft, Konz was rated as the #1 center, and the #2 rated guard. Pouncey’s injury history, combined with Tomlin’s like for position flexibility, seem to make Konz a logical choice. I wonder what Kugler thinks of this year’s class.

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by alfresco on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Voted scenario 4, despite the 2013 factors and its unlikelihood

I don’t want to go OG twice high, à la scenario 2 and 3, because such a strategy is fraught with risk, and we can find that second G later. What I like about 4 is that it anticipates the LT situation, takes care of a G, has two future starters, as you say in round 4, and I also anticipate the big Lutz would become our next cult hero, now that Redman solidly has no. 2 RB secured. Kudos, again.

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by Flying Polamalus on Jan 17, 2012 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

I seem to be on an island

with my outlook on the draft and this team. :)

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 17, 2012 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

What'd you vote for

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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I vote Burficit

but that’s just me

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 17, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

BURFICT!

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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

no word on if this I-AA QB is still alive

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I want him too

but I don’t think its gonna happen.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 17, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

another name to consider........Luke Kuechly, Boston College

Not sure why this kid is being overlooked, but he is ranked #1 at ILB and is a pure tackling machine.

Since the top 3 are coming out are JRs, I will post their Jr and Soph. seasons.

Luke Kuechly, Boston College,
Jr. Season
Tackes Asst Total
102 89 191
Soph Season
110 73 183

Donta Hightower, Alabama
Jr. Season
Tackles Asst Total
41 33 85
Soph Season
30 39 69

Vontaze Burfict, Arizona St.
Jr. Season
Tackles Asst Total
40 29 69
Soph. Season
54 36 90

Kuechly had more tackles in his sophmore season than Burfict or Hightower had in both of their Jr. and Soph. seasons. He was number 1 in the nation in tackles as a junior.

Kuechly would be more of a dream than any of the other two and we can only imagine the damage that would be done with Woodley, Harrison, Timmons, Kuechly. Talk about dreaming……this would be the ultimate early christmas gift.

by lamberts58 on Jan 27, 2012 3:29 AM EST up reply actions  

you wouldn't poop with excitement if we got DeCastro?

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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd have to change pants

but I still see a glaring hole at ILB. :( I honestly think the key to this draft is getting value at ILB and G position and then getting Poe, Ta’amu, or Chapman at the NT position. But if we go all in and get a G and leave ILB teams will exploit that weakness to no end next year and likewise if we go ILB and ignore G, Ben will likely get hurt again next year. To me those positions are equally important.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

you say "exploit" like its easy to do

lets keep in mind that our LBs are far and away the best in the league. if and when Farrior leaves, Foote isn’t a scrub and playing next to Timmons Woodley and Harrison will be fine. very few teams will be able to truly “exploit” that weakness. plus, if we focus on OL and NT, the rest of the team should improve enough to make up for it (offense and Ben especially).

by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 17, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

please

best in the league? Maybe our OLB, but our ILB? SF is better off the top of my head.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 17, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

that doesn't mean

there isn’t room from improvement, its easy to spead the LBs out and get the match you want (Farrior). If they replace farrior there is one glaring hole taken out of the defense. I say we trade up in the later rounds and get a NT. To me with the talent on hand it just make sense to get ILB first, G second then NT third. I don’t know when Casey will be back and I don’t know how effective he can be. But Ta’amu may go in the third round, his stock is dropping and Chapman may go in the early third round, the only guys whos stock is rising is Poe and I wouldn’t take him in the first and he won’t be there at the bottom of the second.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 18, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m for keeping picks, but if we could trade Wallace to move up and get DeCastro without losing much I wouldn’t mind it.

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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

the question i have

is the gap between decastro and konz big enough to sacrifice wallace? To me the answer is no. Don’t get me wrong DeCastro is clearly better, but just not that much better.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 17, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven’t watched enough of Konz to know.

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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

That's my concern as well (difference in value)

And Konz offers us versatility which would be valuable. Moreover, I think this draft is really deep at guard – there are some really solid prospects in rounds 2-4.

by JDSpartan on Jan 17, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

this

that is my thinking also, deep in guards not in ILBs, so go ILB first round and G second

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 18, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Not much of a drop off as a trade off

DeCastro is quicker, more explosive off the line, stays lower and a little nastier.
Konz is stronger, a littler better in the pass protection and can fill in at center.

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by Steel34D on Jan 17, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

about what?

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by Steel34D on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked

Scenario 1 (traditional)

In Scenario 1:
I would take out DPM though even at the 7th rd, Id rather take Adrian Robinson from Temple if available. And I would LOVE Austin davis to be there late but I doubt he will fall that far. If Konz falls to us, no doubt we take him, wasn’t aware he could play guard as well. Having two dominant C/G in Konz and Pouncey will help, especially if pouncey’s ankle gets tweeked again. I don’t like Ta’amu all that much anymore, but I can’t say I don’t like the value but I would rather have Poe or Chapman there or Fangupo or Nicolas Jean-Baptiste from Baylor later. Love Moye, great RZ target, I would also consider Gerrell Robinson from AriSt.

In Scenario 4 (trades)
I liked this because it was intriguing with the trades and it is ballsy. I dont oppose trading Wallace although I hate to see him go but if it’s to the Jags I don’t mind. But if that went down and we had the 7th and 24th, I would still go with Moose no question, if Konz is avaliable at 24 and we get both of those guys I would have a heart attack. Like Cole, Taylor and Fangupo, all good players who will fit in nicely. Joe Adams would be a good replacement, maybe Tim Benford from tenn Tech, good value on Bolden, I would also include RYAN STEED from FURMAN (all caps because this guy is a huge sleeper to watch going foward) Like Lutzenkirchen also Michael Williams from ’Bama at that spot, great blocker in run game and has skills to be a decent receiver. Andre Ellington is actually returning for his senior season so he is out, so maybe Alfred Morris from FAU depending on his workouts.

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by YoungMon3y on Jan 17, 2012 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

Hightower or Barron...

Need a new bad-ass in the middle. I love Burfict too, but the Steelers shy away from character concerns. Wouldn’t be mad at a top-flight corner in round one either- though i’ve almost given up hope on that in recent years- ha! I think we can get a solid OG in round two-

i also think the Steelers like what they’ve got going in their wr corp.- don’t think Wallace is going anywhere…

by crosby87 on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

I think we can get a solid OG in round two, and go for an ILB in round one, may need to trade up in the 3rd to get a NT though.

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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 17, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

why wouldnt you just swap scenario's 4 and 5??

in 4, we give up wallace and a extra picks to get Jacksonville’s #7. in 5, we get jacksonville’s pick since they sign Wallace only to trade down.
so, how about in scenario 4 we trade Wallace to Arizona or Seattle (if we’re going to trade him) and take DeCastro and give up a lot less than moving up to #7. then in scenario 5 we just take Martin since we have Jacksonville’s pick.

by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 17, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

Thoughts

What do you guys think about the center from Ohio State; Mike Brewster?? I think that he was a very good athlete on a subpar team this year and possibly moving Poncey to guard?? Thoughts.

by wmd3 on Jan 17, 2012 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

Not likely

I can’t see an All Pro Center getting moved to guard. Konz is being considered because he can play guard but back up center. If Brewster isn’t capable at guard then he isn’t likely getting picked by the Steelers.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 18, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally..... I trade up

Normally I am an advocate of staying put, or trading back…. This year I would pull the trigger and move up. DeCastro would fill a huge hole, is one of the highest rated Gs coming out in a long time, and has the potential to be a fixture there for years to come. IMO, I trade up, grab a player that will be a starter immediately and not have to worry about that position (barring injury) for years to come.

by imike29 on Jan 21, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

picked #1

seems to hit all the needs.

I’d love to get DeCastro but wouldn’t give up Wallace or leave the first two days of the draft with only 2 OGs.

by Steely McSmash on Jan 22, 2012 12:43 AM EST reply actions  


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