You Are Mike Tomlin in 2012(this is the only bold font I chose)
by GeorgeQUAD on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM EST
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PrintEd Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was asked to be Mike Tomlin and make decisions on 2012 starters and roster. Stay(reduced pay, retires, moves on, or good riddance) Super Bowl winner or starter/scrub, and welcome UFA/draft pick.
Steel Curtain members please make your selections. Thank you. Below are my choices to each player's name.
1. Hines Ward 2. James Farrior 3. Casey Hampton 4. Aaron Smith 5. William Gay 6. Mike Wallace
7. Ziggy Hood 8. Max Starks 9. Marcus Gilbert 10. Willie Colón 11. Chris Kemoeatu 12. Name Your Guards
13. Name Your Punter 14. Mendenhall vs. Redman 15. #2 Tight End 16. Backup Quarterback
1. Hines Ward-> retires
2. James Farrior-> retires
3. Casey Hampton-> stay reduced pay
4. Aaron Smith-> retires
5. William Gay-> leaves as free-agent. Keenan Lewis or Cortez Allen starter.
6. Mike Wallace-> offer maximum one-year tender
7. Ziggy Hood-> plays like 2010
8. Max Starks-> leaves as free-agent
9. Marcus Gilbert-> starting left tackle
10 Willie Colon-> starting right tackle
11. Chris Kemoeatu-> Good Riddance
12. Name Your Guards->Number 1 draft pick and Ramon Foster
13. Name Your Punter-> Jeremy Kapinos
14. Mendenhall vs. Redman-> split carries 50/50
15. # 2 tight end-> great blocking UFA
16. Backup Quarterback-> veteran UFA
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1. Ward – stay reduced pay
2. Farrior – retire
3. Hampton – no change
4. A. Smith – retire
5. Gay – resign 2 years
6. Wallace – 1st and 3rd tender, sign long term if reasonable
7. Hood – no other option
8. Starks – depends on knee, resign cheap most likely
9. Gilbert – Push inside to G for
10. Colon – RT
11. Kemo – cut, try to resign cheaper
12. Foster and 2nd or 3rd round guy, whoever wins in camp
13. FA
14. Smash and dash
15. Saunders
16. Lefty and Rookie draft pick
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Agree with all but a couple of comments
Willie Gay is gone. He will command more than we will be willing to spend on him. People want a piece of this D/team. AZ Cards sign him to compete with Jefferson for startying job. 3 dogs (Brown/Cortez/Lewis) on 1 bone (#2 CB spot). The next 2 are nickel and dime.
Also, I see Gilbert going to LT next yr. Starks re signed for small amount to be backup to Gilbert and Colon (who is starting RT). Essentially Starks replaces Jon Scott’s role for similar price. $2.5M
I’d be shocked if AZ went after any of our starters after BMac. And I don’t think a lot of people will forget about his 2009 season.
I just don’t feel super confident about Gilbert at LT yet.
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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
understand but think of it this way, regardless of what we have seen from Gay over the yrs
He is a starting CB on the number 1 ranked D in the NFL. He’s played in 2 Super Bowls and played in Lebeau’s system his entire career.
This, will get him 3 yrs 2.5M a yr and we wont’ pay him that.
I really don't think it happens
And neither K Lewis or Allen can play the slot.
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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Plus he knows LeBeau's system ...
You don’t think Ray Horton wants guys he can trust in his system in AZ?
Just like Bryant McFadden?
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by John Stephens on Jan 18, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
Jefferson is going to be very good in Horton defense
He has all the physical tools, that the defense likes. This year was his first year starting on a defense that was installed for the first time. Him, Patrick Petersen, Greg Toler the cards will be set at DB. They won’t sign Gay.
Huge fan of the Steelers. (that includes "Steelers West")
"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
Agree that those 3 are going to be strong for AZ. Especially with Toler coming back after being out all yr.
But make no mistake, if it’s not AZ, this scenario is going to happen. Gay gets paid this offseason and I don’t see the steelers matching whatever that amount is
Gay had a good season last year too
And yet he ended up back with us.
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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Casey Hampton
You would bring him back at $7 million next year? Do you agree that some team will overpay for William Gay?
You are generous
4.5 is way too much
Impose your will.
I don’t think it will be an option. Who do you start at NT if Casey is cut? A rookie? McLendon? I wouldn’t be overly confident with either.
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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Would like to see a rotation of Kies, Hood, Snack, Hayward, Mclendon,
See if Ziggy can play NT consitently. I think Omar gets Snack done at the right price. Maybe it’s not what I suggested but will work whatever it is.
Or go get Aubrey Franklin and he would be same price or cheaper than Snack.
It is not indicative of Tomlin to go into a season without a “certainty” at a starting position.
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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
It’d be nice, but I do think Hampton has the prerogative to say no.
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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
They give him a contract extension
And restructure it to reduce his cap hit this year and maybe his pay overall but that would only be if Casey agrees to it.
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I don’t think Casey is going to agree to that. I doubt he wants to sign on for more than two years.
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by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Hampton
I will walk again if the Steelers give Hampton a contract extension~!
Hampton isnt going to be there forever
gotta start somewhere. He is past his prime and now with this knee injury we cant afford to have another 3 years of placing another defensive person on IR the whole season (A. Smith)
I never said he was going to be there forever. And the place you start replacing him is when you have the talent to do so. McLendon’s ceiling is a backup and spot starter. We have no one on the roster that could be our future NT. It’s just not the year to replace him.
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by John Stephens on Jan 18, 2012 8:32 AM EST up reply actions
1. Ward – stay reduced pay
2. Farrior- stay reduced pay
3. Hampton- stay reduced pay
4. A. Smith- retire
5. Gay- offer contract but let him walk if we wants more
6. Wallace- 1st and 3rd tender
7. Hood- stay. rotate evenly with Keisel and Heyward to keep everyone fresh.
8. Starks- resign at vet minimum as backup
9. Gilbert- starting LT
10. Colon- starting RT
11. Kemo- byebye
12. 1st or 2nd round pick and Foster
13. Kapinos
14. Mendy vs Redman- 60/40 if mendenhall is healthy
15. Saunders
16. Leftwich and either rookie pick or David Garrard
by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 17, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions
James Farrior
Do you have him starting or as a backup? Do you agree the Steelers will draft an inside linebacker with one of their top three picks?
he's still a starter
i see them addressing ILB early, but preferably (i say preferably because we dont know how BPA will go) after OL and NT
by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 17, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
a shoee
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
by FrankWyt on Jan 19, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol very funny, I guess I stepped in that one:)
Impose your will.
Actually – they should dedicate at least 3 draft pics especially if Pouncey continues to have issues… is speed is an issue move Harrison to inside and Timmons to Out. Woodly’s sack went up once Timmons moved tothe outside… Place Worlids next to Harrsion on the inside and let Foote or Farrior (if still here) back up or use 2nd or 3rd yr LB as back ups.
Hey, new BTSC member here, glad to be aboard! Although I am extremely sentimental about the older veterans such as Farrior, Hines, and Hampton, I agree that they are all, at best, part time players who must be willing to take pay cuts to have a chance to stick around. But Ahron Smith is the best 3-4 end of the past decade! And with the exception of the week 1 debacle (where everybody got abused) he looked just fine in weeks 2, 3, and 4. In todays NFL, you can never have too many D-linemen, and a guy who takes up a double team EVERY SINGLE PLAY should be kept around even with his injury risks.
by jedmiller71 on Jan 17, 2012 6:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Welcome aboard!
Unlike on some cruise lines… we always stay with the Steeler ship.
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
So Keep A. Smith around even if he can only play 2 games per year?
And take up a roster spot, take away a young DE development/playing time to help the team. Your logic really doesnt make sense, since your scenario happened in the Denver game and we were left with nothing along the D line.
I’m sorry, but Aaron Smith absolutely did not look good in the games he played. He may have had what some would call a “good” game, but he was constantly getting abused. Smith is one of my favorite Steelers ever, but I’m sorry, his career is most likely over.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I see I am totally outnumbered, so I will bow to the power of the masses. Parting point: as stated above, the Denver game showed you must have 6 D-linemen. I count Diesel, Casey, Hood, Heyward, McClendon and…..Al Woods? Sunny Harris? This years 6th rounder? I hope it’s Dontari Poe, I need some good news to get me through the next 6 months of drearyness
by jedmiller71 on Jan 18, 2012 9:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Welcome, but Never ...
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bow to the power of the masses
if you think you are right. Your opinion is just as valued as anyone elses. You can always “agree to disagree”, and keep the debate civil.
And yeah you’re right about how the Denver game illustrated the necessity of depth at Dline.
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by PaVaSteeler on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
+1
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by John Stephens on Jan 18, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Curious on this point why didn't they go to a nickel or dime package or go with 2 d line man?
Impose your will.
Because Denver is a running team? You expect them to be conservative at that point, because in every game besides against us, Tebow can’t pass
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Still thought they approached it from the wrong end.
At that point they had only had 3 d lineman. Plus, te bow had been chucking it deep with success. The guy just got lucky at the same time we got unlucky. With all those injuries and the absence of Clark I thought theynwouldmhave played off. More zone blitz schemes and blanket coverage mixed in with the occasional press coverage.
Impose your will.
Maybe so, but it’s always easy to say after the fact. It was a dumb play, but remember, if Ike didn’t do three stupid things on that play, it could have been different. I think if we would have went to the schemes you say, they would have just ran all over us. It was just our time, and a miracle happened. You can’t think it’s a coincidence that a horrible throwing QB threw for exactly 316 yards…
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I actually agree w frank on this. He is ready to retire or get cut.
Impose your will.
1. Hines Ward → stay, reduced pay
2. James Farrior → stay, reduced pay
3. Casey Hampton → stay, reduced pay
4. Aaron Smith → retire
5. William Gay → leave as FA
6. Mike Wallace → sign RFA tender OR trade for stud OG or high 1st round pick*
7. Ziggy Hood → starting RDE
8. Max Starks → starting LT
9. Marcus Gilbert → starting RT (i dont want him to play OG, i want him to play OT)
10. Willie Colón → starting RG (if he can’t, start at RT, move Gilbert to LT, don’t resign Max)
11. Chris Kemoeatu → cut/ trade to…Raiders? (they could use some more penalties)
12. Name Your Guards → 1st round pick Mike Pouncey*
13. Name Your Punter → Sepulveda, kapinos on speed dial
*14. Mendenhall vs. Redman → trade Mendenhall and Wallace to Miami for Mike Pouncey and Reggie Bush. Bush, Redman split
15. #2 Tight End → Saunders
16. Backup Quarterback → Chad Henne
Love the trade idea Steeltown!
I would be totally for your #6, #12, #14 combination, especially with what Bush would do for Ben as a check down out of the back field, maybe he’d actually consider throwing it to Bush. Couple that with a trade up to grab De’Castro or nab Konz at 24. Imaging Starks — De’Castro (or Konz) - Pouncey - Pouncey — Gilbert with Colon as a back up at 3 of the four positions. Also if we took Konz, we have a good back-up at center.
After that, nothing but defense (NT, ILB, S) and a UFA WR or two
by Gibz_of_Steel on Jan 17, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
silly auto formatting :)
Yes there should be two Pounceys there
by Gibz_of_Steel on Jan 17, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
hope your joking about mike pouncey and bush for Wallace and Mendenhall
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1. Hines Ward – retire
2. James Farrior – stay/reduce pay
3. Casey Hampton – stay/reduce pay
4. Aaron Smith – retire
5. William Gay – leaves as FA
6. Mike Wallace – 1/3 tender, no long term deal
7. Ziggy Hood – starting LDE, rotate with Heyward a bit
8. Max Starks – re-signed, starting LT
9. Marcus Gilbert – starting RT
10. Willie Colon – starting RG
11. Chris Kemoeatu – good riddance
12. Name Your Guards: LG Rd 1 Rookie, RG Colon, Foster swing
13. Name Your Punter: Rookie/FA please
14. Mendenhall vs. Redman: Redman
15. #2 Tight End: Saunders
16. Backup Quarterback: 4th Rd/5th Rd Rookie
I can't tell you
because I’ll be letting the cat out of the bag
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 21, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions
1. Hines Ward→ bring back as a cheap #4 WR, reduced salary
2. James Farrior→ discuss paycut depending sylvester’s progress & who we can draft
3. Casey Hampton→ keep with paycut. Frankly we can’t afford to cut him position wise.
4. Aaron Smith→ do not offer contract
5. William Gay→offer cheap contract with little/no guaranteed money. Let him walk if he doesnt take it.
6. Mike Wallace→ offer maximum one-year tender & start long term contract negotiations
7. Ziggy Hood→ starter
8. Max Starks→ depending severity of knee injury: if not career threatening offer short contract with little/no guaranteed money; if career threatening no contract offer
9. Marcus Gilbert→ up in the air whether will be left or right tackle, possibly competing with starks or draft pick for starting left tackle, if he would lose that competition would shift him to compete at right tackle.
10 Willie Colon→ starting right tackle with competition with jonathan scott & possibly gilbert.
11. Chris Kemoeatu→ cut
12. Name Your Guards→draft pick/free agent signing and Ramon Foster
13. Name Your Punter→ winner of tryouts/free agency/draft
14. Mendenhall vs. Redman→ split carries 75/25, do NOT extend mendenhall this offseason
15. # 2 tight end→ saunders
16. Backup Quarterback→ leftwich & late draft pick
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