Knowing Your Guards: A look at the 2012 Prospects
As many of you know one of the biggest need for the Pittsburgh Steelers is at the guard position. Whether it is because both Ramon Foster and Doug Legursky are Restricted Free Agents or because Chris Kemoeatu has arthritic knees and a deteriorating mind, the Steelers will need to address the guard position in the draft. However I am sure most of the average fans only see the names of these players and don't know why they are rated as they are, Having played on the offensive line and specifically the guard position I love watching good guard play. I have watch a lot of video on each guy I am talking about. ( except one who literally has like two videos since he plays at no where state) The following is my analysis of the the guards and how I would rate them and why. (with links to video of them playing) I will also include the consensus on where the "experts' believe they will be drafted.
I am sure this is no surprise to anyone who has been reading any draft analysis on this site or others. DeCastro is by far the best guard prospect in this years draft, but how many of you know why. When watching DeCastro two thing stand out immediately the first is his intial quickness off the line. DeCastro is rarely beaten off the line, he fire into his opponent fast while still staying low to keep leverage. Once he gets his hands on his opponent his opponent rarely stands a chance. The second is his motor. DeCastro never quicks on a play and love to finish his blocks. He always seems to be looking for someone to block whether it is the begining of the play or the end. This is the type of player you want on your team. What are other things DeCastro does well? He has very quick feet and violent hand. He can use his hand to keep opposing D-linemen off his body and restore leverage. He has great understand of how to block a guy always putting himself in between the defender and the hole. DeCastro pulls extremely well getting around the corner astonishingly fast and keeping his head up to see the defender. The only problem DeCastro has is against some of the larger stronger DT. He is 6'5" 312lbs so is lighter than expect and because of that may not be able to drive the 350lbs tackle off the ball as effectively. However because he get off the ball so fast and bescause he understands how to block he can still prevent the player from being a factor in the play. During the off season if he put on roughly 10lbs he is going to be dominant in any scheme. He will easily be a top 15 pick.
Here is a link to a breakdown of David DeCastro's play. He is #52 the RG for Standford. http://youtu.be/_8I56-rnbZ8
#2 Peter Konz, C Wisconsin-
After now officially declaring for the draft Peter Konz is the number one center in the draft. I really like this player and not just cause he wheres the best interior O-linemen number ever #66. He is also my number two guard. Why? Well when watching Konz play again two things stood out to me immediately. The first was his abilities in pass blocking. Konz does an amazing job recognizing defensive pressures. He sit in a chair well and uses he arms and upper body strength to stalemate rushers. He has nice footwork and good balance while using his hands well. He is rarely beat in the pass. The second was Konz awareness when blocking. Like DeCastro, Konz understands where the run is designed to go and places himself in between the defender and this hole. This mean that even when beat it is very difficult to make a play with out running through Konz which is near impossible because his size and strength. Other things I like about Konz. Obvisously his lower body strength, he can anchor against any tackle. When ask to pull he is athletic enough to get out in front though since he does this rarely he does not have the recognition to find defender like DeCastro. This should improve with more practice pulling. The only flaw in Konz game is his ability to stay low. He is a taller center at 6'5" 315 pounds so staying low can be difficult. Sometimes he can play high becasue of this. He need to become more consistent at keepig his pads low and he would be good, he also does have the same elite get off on the line that DeCastro has but this can be scewed being a center. He is easily going to be a first round pick if not a top 25.
Here is the link to Konz playing again he is #66 for Wisconsin. http://youtu.be/fo4Ct96jlEc
#3 Brandon Washington, OT Miami (FL)-
This is where I begin to differ from the normal draft analysis. I have Brandon Washington over Cordy Glenn, Washington actually started for Miami at both the Guard and Tackle position. He is a very string muscular player. He has very good quickness off the line and stays low. Like the other two prospects Washington won't give up on a play. He has a good quickness to pull and excels at drive blocking. He will keep his feet moving and dominate at the point of attack. Does an excellent job at keeping his pads low and has a mean streak to finish blocks. He played tackle and is good in pass protection but is two slow with his kick step and will not make it at tackle in the NFL. Overall though Washington need work on his technique. This is because he has switch back and forth between OT and OG often. Washington is heavy handed and will not use his hand to continually punch or hit off his opponent hands to regain the at vantage.However this is a very teachable skill. Washington actually reminds me of his teammate Orlando Franklin who was drafted at 14 by Denver. Franklin however had the body and quickness to play tackle in the NFL. Both however have that nastiness. Washington is 6'4" 320lbs ideal size for a guard and because of his think body, great base and power he can succeed in the NFL. The Expert have him as a mid second round I would take him in the high second and well over Cordy Glenn.
Here is the link to Washington playing. They don't have a edited version so this is an entire game. He is #72 for Miami http://youtu.be/csbHW4InTd0
#4 Cordy Glenn, OT/OG Georgia-
Cordy Glenn is seen by many as a first round prospect but not to me. I'll give you the positives first. The first positive thing that stands out when watching Cordy Glenn is his ability to pass block. He is very patient and sit in a chair keeping a low center of gravity. He has quick feet in pass blocking and a good kick step. He uses his hands well to keep the defenders off of him in the pass. He did start at LT in the SEC all year and I think there may be a team that takes him as an RT. Glenn is also strong very strong. However despite these positives the first thing that stood out to me was Glenns motor or lack of one. He will give up on plays when he thinks he is out of the play, He has lazy feet in the running game not moving them. He plays very high and to me bends at the waste too often when tired. He will lean to much on defenders because he seems lazy. Too often will he get out worked and beat. He doesn't have the initial quickness off the ball because he comes off late too often. This is not the player that I would want on my offensive line. He however because of size and power rarely get beat at the line. The "expert" have him as a first round pick to high second. I think he may be taken there by a team sees him as a RT but I would go any where near him. I want my O-linemen to want to punish a guy and punish them until the whistle.
Here is a link to Glenn video. He is the LG, #71 http://youtu.be/MdhAXAoToGs
#4 Kevin Zeilter OG, Wisconsin-
Again I go against the quote experts becuase I value motor over physical ability. Zeilter in my opinion would be a very good option at guard. Two thing stood out right away when I saw Zeilter play. The first was his his ability to stay low at the point of attack. He can drive block very well for someone who is slightly undersized. He has very good technique with hands adn is ideal in short yardage situation where he excels with his knowledge of the "tools" at his disposal. The second was his ability to pull. He pulls much like Chirs Kemoeatu meaning he isn't the fastest at getting around the edge and will put his head down but he more often then not will blow up the defender and create a whole. Zeilter mirrors very well in pass blocking and play with a good center of gravity. He has good quickness off the line but not as elite as someone like DeCastro. He has a pasion for the game and a great work effort. On the field he has a great motor and won't quit o n a play till the whistle blows. He major flaws can be against smaller quicker defenders. He doesn't maintain the block well against say a safety down field would rather punch then latch on to him. He will need to bulk up about ten pound or so to effectively anchor against NFL DT. He is 6'4" 318 and will need to get to about 328 with strength however he is a no nonsense type worker who works hard in the weight room. The "experts" have him going in the late third early fourth. I would like it if the Steelers got this blue collar guy.
Here is a link to Zeilter's play. He is #70 the RG. http://youtu.be/phahBI8uxKw
#5 Amini Silatolu, OT Midwestern State-
This was the prospect I was talking about having little film on. However I believe I have enough to make comment on his play. The first thing that stood out when watching Silatolu play is his quick feet in the passing game. He mirrors extremely well and bends at the knees and sits in his chair patiently. he won't be able to play LT in the NFL but he will have exceptional pass blocking skills for a guard. Silatolu has a very good frame at 6'3" 324lbs. He has a nastiness and will hustle down field very well. In my viewing he does play high which effects his leverage. Being from Midwestern he hasn't had talent to play against. The Senior Bowl will be very intersting for Silatolu. He has never played in a three point stance so will need to show he can effective get off the ball quickly in the three point, He has good quickness and was ask to pull for screen a lot at Midwestern. Over all I think Silatolu compare a lot to Cordy Glenn except for the fact that he doesn't have the motor issues. This guy could become the next great guard form a small school. He has a strong thick frame that lead many to believe he can play in the NFL very well. He is project by the "expert" any where from the third to the fifth depending on how he plays in the Senior Bowl.
Here is a link to Silatolu playing he is the LT #57 for Midwestern in red. http://youtu.be/rPH62vxL0TI
#6 Kelechi Osemele, OT Iowa State-
Osemele is a player many have rated as the third pure guard prospect. Not me. When I watch Osemele I see another lazy player, who won't play to the whistle. He has slow feet and poor technique. Osemele also shows poor judgement in his blocking assignment. Missing some of the key blocks at times. He doesn't use he hands well and relies too much on his thick body and strength to make blocks. It has been speculated that his work ethic is very poor and he lacks a passion for the game. He has a strong upper body and a good ability for a guard in pass blocking. Osemele can be very quick off the snap but because of motor issues will be inconsistent in this area. Like Glenn I wouldn't touch this guy. He has the body type and experts have him going in the mid to late second round.
Here is a link to Iowa State game. Osemele is the LT #72. http://youtu.be/u0UpPzuVI4E
#7 Senio Kelemete OT, Washington-
Here is the link I won't wate your time analyzing him but you can look your self. He might be able to become a starter some day at guard. He is the LT for Washington #56. http://youtu.be/rQIN808atZw
#8 Lucas Nix OG Pittsburgh-
He is too slow off the line for me won't make it in the NFL if he doesn't improve.
#9 Philp Blake, C Baylor-
Just had to throw him in their though I didn't want to add in many centers. I like Blake think he could become a good guard, but he will be 26 next year. This is the full Baylor v. Washington Alamo bowl and him against Alemeda Ta'amu. http://youtu.be/fDJOGZj7dEI
#10 James Brooks OG, Virginia Tech-
Need to gain more weight, he is light and doesn't have great strength could be a reliable back up with improved strength and coaching. Don't see a starter here though.
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Awesome breakdown man
I like your rankings but I think you are a little tough on Kelechi. Would move him up one spot.
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 17, 2012 5:26 PM EST reply actions
I can't stand guys who don't give their all
Mike Singletary goes off in my mind when I see it,
" I would rather play with ten guys on the field…then I guy who won’t give their all…Can not play with them, can not win with him, can’t coach, can’t do it."
to me I saw a guy who is playing football because it is something he can get paid from. Didn’t see the passion didn’t see the motor. His football I.Q. has been in question from draft experts and his angles and hand technique in blocking is poor. Maybe I am being harsh but for a guy most have as their #3 guard I don’t see it.
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And Thanks
Huge fan of the Steelers. (that includes "Steelers West")
"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
Great work! Much appreciated.
Just remember, though, that the guy Singletary was describing just won the NFC divisional playoff game – because he took Singletary’s advice to heart. Work ethic and selfishness can be changed.
Good story here:
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/17/3376698/49ers-davis-grew-up-after-singletarys.html
Possible I could see Pouncey being a better guard then Konz but to me they are very similar in the pass the difference is Pouncey plays lower but Konz has better lower body strength.
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How about we keep Pouncey at the position he is comfortable with and put Konz at G.
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ya, the one in which he has been voted as the best in the league for the only two years he’s been playing….shoot, why don’t we move Ben to LT to make room for Dixon?
by NoVAPensFan on Jan 18, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
My have to move Ben to LT if Starks can't get back.
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Great Insight.
You seem to have a trained eye on O-Linemen, hope you re-do this breakdown post-combine!
If you do, i’ll personally change your name to Steel34DoubleD!!!
SMH
It stands for 3-4 Defense why doesn’t anyone see that
And definitely will after East-West Shrine and Senior Bowl, not much Combine can tell you about O-linemen but I will.
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Will definitely be looking for the continued coverage-
We’re almost certain to take an interior lineman in the first two rounds.
And there’s no shame in liking 34D’s, Steel man!
Youre doing a lot of writing lately Steel34D
And it is all good. Keep it up.
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This is my procrastination from my Organic Chemistry assignments probably need to start focusing back on school but still in that winter break mode….
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good info man
i think the one with most value would be Zeitler if we got him in the 3rd. i think you’ll see him in the second though with a good combine
by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 17, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions
Yep, liking that Z man
Plus, whats the chances of another OG from Wisconsin being a bust for us?
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jan 17, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Silatolu, Konz, and Washington
All look like great values after DeCastro gets picked up in the first half of round one. Agree with you that Glenn just doesn’t look as driven as you want a guy to be.
Konz, I think the issue is, will he translate to guard? Excellent center, but the team has Pouncey, who is excellent when healthy.
Washington is under-valued, and might be available late 2nd. I wouldn’t mind the team trading up to the early second round to get one of the premiere interior lineman- this draft has 6 or 7 of those, and then it’s a big gap to the next tier.
I wonder about Zeitler- he looks good, but I think part of that is playing next to Konz, who is SO damn good- it’s not that he’s not solid, it’s that he may not be AS good as people think
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 17, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Watch the film at about 2:35
Zeitler 1 on 1 with Devon Still. Still beats him off the line but Zeiter walls him off and the pancakes him.
Or at 4:00 Zeitler pulls and flattens #40 Glenn Carson for Penn State on a pull.
In both those Konz wasn’t on the field.
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He is not going to one on one Haloti Ngata and need to improve his initial get off as it is only average. But I think he puts on like ten pounds, is still able to move well and is in an NFL strength program and he could be very solid.
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Watched
You are right. That was totally legit. I think I’m just a little hesitant on Wisconsin interior linemen, but nearly all of the guys above are already better than Legs, Essex, Scott, etc.
I suspect Konz will go in the first- he’s that good of a center, and some team will pull the trigger on him. I hope the Steelers move up in this draft to get at least an extra second round pick- there is excellent talent available among the first 50 players, at positions they need.
I also admit that until you explained it above, I didn’t realize your “name” was referring to the 3-4 defense, though it seems fairly obvious in retrospect.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 18, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Hey lotts...
…CONGRATS on the Niners man; what a game A. Smith played. You guys must be pumped!
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Thanks man!
We are STOKED! I am thrilled that they won, and (pleasantly) shocked that Alex effin’ Smith was the one who put the dagger into the Saints not once, but twice in the last couple of minutes.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 18, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
my guess he puts on some necessary weight and shows he can move at the Senior Bowl with the extra poundage and could move up to the high 3rd or even late second. Not to mention I think when teams look in to Osemele they are going to value the high motor guys over the slackers.
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Nice work
It could be argued o-line is our biggest position of need, while I think NT is the biggest single position of need it is obvious the line could be upgraded at multiple positions. Of our first 4 picks, after that it’s a crap shoot with diff teams looking for different things in later rounds, I would use 1 on a NT, 2 on o-line and prob a safety in there somewhere. Just addressing the o-line though, I really like Konz, we will have no shot at DeCastro and Konz can play either guard and fill in at center when needed. Zeitler would be the next guy up for me, while all players need to be stronger, I think his size and mentality are nice fits for the Steelers. Real quick maybe a draft that starts….
rd1.Konz, C,G
rd2. Zeitler,G, I’ve seen him go between rd 1 and rd3
rd3. Lloka, FS
rd4. Jean-Baptiste, NT
Damn DeCastro is so friggin' good
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Yeah he is.
That is one player I wouldn’t mind us trading up for if he somehow slips to around 15 or 16.
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Yes is he is
When your only knock is you need to get a little heavier and a little stronger so you can handle even NT 1-on-1. Your very good.
In an NFL work out routine I see DeCastro doing that in the off-season easily.
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Great job, and thanks...
…from someone who doesn’t follow college players, but has followed all the debate on what the Steelers need to do to improve their OL – this gives me a better understanding of the names being discussed.
Can’t believe how much work you’ve had to do, just for one position! Can we expect similar stuff on our other positional needs?
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I can do tackles centers,and D-linemen
but after that I wouldn’t be as technical since I do not know the little details of the position. So positions like QB, WR, RB and any DB would be nothing more than what any person with slight experience would see after watching tape.
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But I wouldn't count on it
need to get back to in school mind set.
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"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
Makes me think....
Today I saw that Art II made a few comments about how getting under the salary cap will be one of the biggest challenges and that "we have some decisions to make with certain players and their contracts". This made me think that this could be a year where the Steelers look at positions where they are old (i.e., inside lb, nose, safety) and start to target specific players (i.e., trade up versus sit and wait and then take the best available player off their board). If they get the players they target, it could spell the end for some long-time greats (i.e., Hampton, Smith, Farrior, Foote) as well as some other cap casualties such as Ward and Kemo. Now the million dollar question is who do they target – is it Casey’s replacement or Farrior’s/Foote’s replacement or am I wrong all together and they actually go for an O-lineman early on.
Warming up to Konz
but if we take him, I would like to see us trade up in the second to try and nab a ILB. :)
I love the Steelers.
Sign him up.
Someone get Steel34D on the Steelers’ scouting team. Great post, Steel.
by Steelerfaninboston on Jan 21, 2012 9:45 AM EST reply actions
Cordy Glenn
Glad to see I am not alone in my thinking about him…. I live down here in SEC country now, and I see UGA play frequently. Not impressed by him at all. Not worth a 1st round pick, IMO.
Good post Steell34D

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