Art Rooney Looking Back at 2011 and Forward to the Future
Steelers President Art Rooney II recently discussed a wide variety of topics, and you can find accounts of it almost anywhere you look - Steelers.com, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, and Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (the Trib's Scott Brown chose to spin two articles out of it - one and two).
Most all of them covered Rooney's thoughts on the following topics in some shape or form:
Salary cap - The Steelers are about $25 million over the $124 million salary cap that is projected for next season, and have until March 13 to rectify the situation.
Quotes to note (I tried to take out most of the word-for-word overlap without butchering how they were written in the articles):
"I would say it's probably as big an issue as we've had to face," Rooney said. "There will be some tough decisions. There will probably have to be some contracts that get restructured and things like that. No question, there's a lot of work to be done."
"There are a lot of key pieces to the puzzle and young players on offense that I think will get better, the receivers being a particular bright spot. We have a couple good young offensive linemen. We have our franchise quarterback. So, I think the pieces are there to get better. We just have to do what we need to do to build on that." (PPG)
"It's not a situation where we're looking to tear things apart and start over," team president Art Rooney II said Tuesday in his first interview since the Steelers were upset in Denver on Jan. 8. "I think there are a lot of pieces in place. Getting younger on defense is a process that's already started. Obviously, we have some decisions to make with certain players and their contracts." (Trib)
We've all known and expected this to be coming, but what Rooney said in the Trib quote is especially interesting (to me). My interpretation is that he's saying that the front office has not been ignoring the age and declining team speed on defense, and has certainly been drafting to try to account for it. Tough decisions have been a long time coming - with regards to guys like Hampton, Farrior, Foote, etc. - and it had been planned to address it sooner or later. The salary cap issue makes it very soon.
To echo one of Ivan's sentiments from his State of the Steelers editorial - rebuilding on the fly while simultaneously remaining competitive is a tough balance and very difficult to pull off.
Hines' Future - He's a Steelers legend, but the $4 million he's slated to make next year needs to be brought more in line with his declining role in the offense
"The overall story on Hines is that he's one of the all-time great players we have had. Hopefully, he is a Hall of Famer. I sure think he is," said Rooney. "We are just in the beginning stages of the process of evaluating what our roster will look like next year. We'll be having some conversations with Hines as we go through the next few weeks about where he fits and how he fits and whether he fits. We have a lot of decisions to make. He had decisions to make. I don't want to speculate on it because the minimum we owe him is to have private conversations about that." (Steelers.com)
"All of those things, you want it to end the right way whenever it ends. But it's a two-party decision. We'll evaluate how we feel about it over the next few weeks, we'll talk to Hines -- I've already had one conversation with Hines, so the communications are already started. We will all get to our decision in due time." (PPG)
However it works out, both sides need an amicable and agreeable resolution to this. It'd be a blot on Hines' legacy if he went elsewhere to finish out his storied career, and it would reflect poorly on the Steelers if they mishandle a man who's been a consummate Steeler for the past 14 years.
Big Ben and Sacks - The best way to keep Ben healthy and effective is to keep him and his loose extremities from getting consistently caught between a 265-300+ pound pass rusher and the ground.
"I don't think we should want or expect a dramatic change in Ben. 'A little bit' is probably the key phrase," said Rooney. "He has been pretty darn successful in a lot of what he does. He's different from other quarterbacks. We don't want or expect dramatic changes in Ben. We need him to be healthy. We need him to continue to be healthy. He is turning 30. Taking fewer sacks, fewer risks here and there is something he needs to think about. But not a dramatic change." (Steelers.com)
"Roethlisberger was sacked 40 times this season. When asked if keeping him more upright in 2012 is tied to upgrading the offensive line, Rooney said, "For the most part, I would say we feel like we have the people in the building that can do the job. That's not to say that we won't try to get better as we prepare for the offseason, and the draft is always something that we look at as an opportunity to get better." (Trib)
Whether you think it's a big or a small change, Ben does need to learn to throw the ball away more often. I find the Trib quote to be particularly interesting again, since you could possibly interpret it in a few of ways:
1). The simplest - Rooney doesn't want to publicly malign the personnel on the offensive line because that is not good team-building.
2). We had the personnel for it, but injuries and other factors out of our control kept the same five guys from playing together week-in and week-out and they never had the opportunity to form good chemistry.
3). There's a difference between pass protecting for your average QB, who ideally gets rid of the ball when the play starts to break down and the heat is getting close, and pass protecting for Big Ben, who usually views the end of the designed play as just another opportunity to exercise his improvisational abilities.
I'm not throwing out the third possibility as an excuse for poor performances in pass protection - like getting lit up by Aldon and Justin Smith against the 49ers, for example. It also does not excuse substandard blocking for the running game. I just think there is a difference between developing offensive linemen to the point where they can pass protect for your typical pocket passer, and getting them to learn the nuances and idiosyncrasies of how to keep Ben alive when he decides he wants to run and touch both sidelines before throwing the ball.
Free agency - We need to get under the cap first.
"It's unlikely that we'll be a big player in the free-agent market, I think that's fair to say. I think it will be similar to how we pursued it in the past. Our key interest will be to keep the players we have, to see if we can sign some of our younger players to longer-term contracts, that will be our key goal. If we have an opportunity to fit in a piece here and a piece there, we'll look at it." (PPG)
Again, we need to get under the cap first. Once we do, we have quite a few free agents in a variety of flavors that we would like to retain (see: Wallace, Burnell "Mike"). Once that is also resolved, there's not going to be much of a slush fund to outbid anyone for an instant upgrade at most any position.
Free agency starts on March 13 at 4pm - same day as the salary cap deadline.
Heinz Field Expansion - 3,000 seats will be added for the 2013 season
"We made the decision that we weren't going to go forward with the project once we got past a certain point last year, last summer," said Rooney. "The uncertainty of the lockout is what really pushed us into next year, because we really had to pull the trigger on the project last June. We wound up in a situation where we had to put it off." (Steelers.com)
The new seats will be located in the open end - South end zone - around where the temporary seating was constructed for the Winter Classic. Those seats will then be offered to people on the team's season ticket waiting list.
Interesting tidbits (to me) that were not mentioned in all of the sources:
Senior Steeler Assistant retiring?
This was only mentioned in the PPG article, and expanded upon in a blog post by Bob Smizik. The root of it is the following that Rooney said (from the transcript linked within Smizik's post):
"The coaching staff, I don't expect any major turnover on this coaching staff. We think we have a good staff. That's not to say there won't be any turnover. We have guys on the coaching staff who have talked about retiring, are senior-type guys and I know Mike [Tomlin] is going through the process of having those conversations as we speak. But I'm not expecting wholesale changes on the staff."
Expect the coordinators back?
"At this point, yeah."
Smizik went on to speculate that it could be special teams coordinator Al Everest (in his early 60s), assistant head coach and defensive line coach John Mitchell (58), tight ends coach James Daniel (56), or maybe even Bruce Arians (gasp!) that have considered retiring (and the rumors that it is Arians are intensifying).
Quarterback coach Randy Fichtner has been bandied about as a possible in-house successor should Arians decide to retire. If Arians does retire but the Steelers want to bring in someone from outside the organization, Smizik thinks recently fired Colts head coach Jim Caldwell could be a candidate.
The way Rooney worded it, I can easily see the arguments for and against the mystery coach being Arians. The argument for it being Arians is that he is a senior-type guy in both age and rank on the coaching ladder. If Fichtner has been designated the successor at offensive coordinator, and intends to continue this evolution to a pass-centric attack that Arians started, you could argue that the change does not constitute a "wholesale change" or a "major turnover". Rooney's final response is undoubtedly truthful as of this moment, but far from set in stone. And Arians apparently took time to mull over this very same decision last year.
The argument against the mystery coach being Arians is changing offensive coordinators usually comes under the heading of a "major turnover". Granted, there's not likely to be "wholesale changes" given how entrenched Ben is and how this is his show, but I find it hard to believe that the change to a new coordinator would not be noticeable - especially if we went outside the organization for one.
Hopefully the rumors will either be substantiated or discredited and this will all be clarified soon.
Mendenhall in Long-term Plans
"Whether we sign him in advance of this season or not; I think Rashard has demonstrated that he can be a major contributor for us," Rooney said, "So we'll more than likely be trying to sign him to a contract at the appropriate time, whenever that is." (Trib and within PPG's transcript)
Mendy will be going into the final year of his contract, but the vote of confidence in him from Rooney right now is notable since Mendy just underwent surgery for his torn ACL. I'm sure the Steelers will undoubtedly wait to see how his recovery has progressed before starting to address a new contract though.
What do you think is most interesting from Art Rooney's discussions? (Though I did neglect to discuss what he specifically had to say about the disappointing way the season ended)
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I said this under a previous thread but it belongs here now!
Regarding the comments about how getting under the salary cap will be one of the biggest challenges and that “we have some decisions to make with certain players and their contracts”. This made me think that this could be a year where the Steelers look at positions where they are old (i.e., inside lb, nose, safety) and start to target specific players (i.e., trade up versus sit and wait and then take the best available player off their board). If they get the players they target, it could spell the end for some long-time greats (i.e., Hampton, Smith, Farrior, Foote) as well as some other cap casualties such as Ward and Kemo. Now the million dollar question is who do they target – is it Casey’s replacement or Farrior’s/Foote’s replacement or am I wrong all together and they actually go for an O-lineman early on.
Id have to give
1st wag at DL for out 1st pick… just makes more sense, we are old at the position, with no "stand in " waiting in the wings…. say like Sylvester at ILB whom Ive got to believe is not destine to be a special teams player his whole career…. there are a # of great picks at T-NG this year…. I would give the kid from AZ ST a chance to be our first pick, he does have the potential to be a cover ILB, but the other two more suited for different schemes DF’s or OLB… I also think the Mundy kid is starter ready, but more so, think we have another year before addressing that position…
There are alot of decisions to be made on the OL, so its very hard to put a wag on… my best guess is… Pouncy, Leg, Gilbert, Essex, Scott, and one but not both Colon-Starks are back, with prob Starks not being resigned… one has to wonder if Gilbert or Scott could transition to play guard… would open up the possibility of drafting a LT with our first pick …to me, there is only one true 1st round Guard in this years draft Decastro-Stanford… very unlikely we get him or draft guard in the 1st round… Im not sold on Gilbert or Scott being able to hold down the LT position, so perhaps we take a wag at a LT in the 1st… but most likely we go with the DT-NT 1st round… Guard in the 2nd or third…Guard is a deep position in the draft this yr…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
I would be okay with that for a DL for out first pick because heyward and ziggy and mcclendon just looked completely gassed in Denver with no reserves. But i also believe that if we went the route at looking at an OL with our first pick as well. Idk what there gonna do with starks and KEmo and a few others but we need help bad and SOON. I would love to see us be able to get a decent starting LT but they are so rare and hard to find that are actual studs that late in the first round. Either way, we need help in both positions and i would be perfectly happy with either of those picks.
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by SteelTownKid08 on Jan 19, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Sadly...hate saying gb to any player, but
I dont see Kemo coming back, both for performance, and salary cap reasons…. Its also possible to sign a lineman from free agency, Its one of the positions you can get a couple yr pro bowl type player. (recent center comes to mind) where you can give signing bonus, and not have large $$$’s tied up against the cap… zillion ways to fix the problems..
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Mostly Agree
But I think the o line looks like this: Gilbert at Left tackle, Legs left guard, Pouncey at center, Foster right guard, Colon at right tackle. Essex and Scott as reserves, possibly keeping Starks, but not likely. Kemo is prolly gone. I seriously doubt they go o line in the first round and agree with your assessment that it will likely go d line.
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by OhioYinzer on Jan 19, 2012 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Id agree with you, but
Essex is in his contract year, and has publicly stated he wants to be a starter… hard to imagine him signing unless he gets first shot.. toss up i guess… Foster-Essex
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Im with you
on hoping Gilbert can handle left tackle… He was sound for a rookie at RT hope your right…. we need both help at other positions and the salary cap room at that position
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I hope I am right too. I think Gilbert will play ok, I am just worried about Colon’s health being a barrier to continuity. That is why I think they resign Essex… he can and has played both guard and tackle…. and recently center! Maybe they can get him to resign on the cheap with the promise that he can compete for a starting guard spot.
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by OhioYinzer on Jan 19, 2012 2:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gilbert at LT
would make me nervous. Look what happened when the Ravens moved Michael Oher to LT – it didn’t work out very well, and they ended up having to move him back to RT. Colon also makes me nervous – in two seasons he’s played part of one game. But they just signed him to a new contract last summer, so I guess he’s back. And he may be back better than ever—it just makes me nervous.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 20, 2012 6:10 AM EST up reply actions
Well...
…we can’t draft for every need this year, not enoug picks. So moving Gilbert to LT, re-sign Starks and Essex as backup, and having Colon back (hopefully) at RT, and draft best OG available may be the best we can do.
I’m actually somewhat confident Colon will return with a vengence. I’m sure he’s got 24 months of frustration bottled up that he wants to expunge, and given that he was on the sidelines every game, not moping, but actively engaging the OL when they came off the field, makes be believe he’ll hit camp with a huge chip on his shoulder wanting to prove his worth. My opinion, but hopefully will happen.
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NO way..
we need TWO guards..Legs and foster are backups
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by nycsteelerfan on Jan 19, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
True
We could use an upgrade at both guard positions, my point is that they will not reach for a guard in the first round, and that based on who is already on the roster that is how I see the line up. It is not out of the question that they WILL draft a guard or two, but it will be in the later rounds… 3rd at the absolute earliest, and I doubt even that unless it is an absolute steal!
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by OhioYinzer on Jan 19, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
there is one guard
Osemele from Iowa, that might slip to us in the second round…he would be a great add, and if he’s there at 24, Im certain he will be the pick…prob is…dont thnk he will last that long, might take a 10 spot jump up the second round to get him…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I thought
that Foster did fine at RG for the most part, but Legs was completely underwhelming at G. I would really love to see them draft Kemo’s replacement, as I trust Kemo won’t be back.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 20, 2012 6:11 AM EST up reply actions
Rooney's cap comments including the goal of signing Wallace further highlights that the Steelers are going to "fire" about 8 guys and need a fine draft to replace a bunch of players.
Rooney has shown he wants to match offers for Wallace at the same time as cutting over 20 mill in salries. This will not just require some contract restructuring and a couple retirements. There could be 8 guys gone from the game day rosters. The Steelers need 8 new game day guys. And with almost no $ left for free agents, the draft is going to have to yield a bunch of game ready players. We better have some more good fortune with those undrafted free agents like Saunders/Redman.
Wallace I’m not worried about. We’re going to put the highest tender on him and so if he goes we’ll be appropriately compensated. I love Mike – he’s the fastest guy in the NFL – but I’m still not so sure he’ll ever develop into much more than the one-trick pony. I think Brown is far more valuable.
As for the cap, it’s tight but it’s not entirely unmanageable.
If we guarantee the roster bonus for Woodley in March we save $4.4m against the cap.
If we do the same for Timmons, we save another $3.5m or so.
So between those two, that’s $8m right there.
But we need to clear at least $25m, so we have to find another $17m.
Casey Hampton – He’s carrying a cap tag of over $8m next year. We could save almost $6m with an outright release prior to his $1m roster bonus in March. Figure that he’s going to have to restructure quite a bit, so we’re either saving the entire $5.89m or something closer to $3.5m if he stays, which I think is more likely. I’ll put his cap savings at a conservative $3m.
Chris Kemoeatu – Given his poor play and balky knee, I think he’s outright cut. If he’s cut before March, we save about $2.5m. If he’s cut after June, we save $3.5 (dead money going to next year). Again, to be conservative, let’s say he’s cut up front – $2.5m.
Hines Ward – His cap number is about $4.5m. If we can’t resign him for cheap, he’s gone. Let’s say we do resign him for the vet minimum and save $3m.
James Farrior – A cut of Potsie saves us $2.85m. I think we may bring him back as a part-timer, but we’re going to save $2m in cap money once he gets the veteran minimum and we get the cap benefit for that.
Aaron Smith – Love him. He’s gone. $3m saved.
Larry Foote – Either he or Farrior will go. I’m betting Foote is the one cut loose. Another $3m.
Bryant McFadden – Gone. $2.5m saved.
Arnez Battle – Gone. $1m saved.
Will Allen – Gone. $1m saved.
John Scott – Gone. $2m saved.
Ok, those are the pretty easy ones. Adding that up, that’s $23m plus the $8 from the linebackers and we’re up to $31m off the cap. Now that’s still not enough for everything we need – a couple of modest free agents, our draft picks, bringing back Max Starks, Willie Gay and working on long term deals on our RFAs – but it’s a start.
There are also some guys who are prime targets for being restructured/renegotiated (I think the below numbers are correct)
Willie Colon (base salary of $5m this coming year)
Ryan Clark (base salary of $3m this coming year)
James Harrison (base salary of $5m this coming year)
Troy Polamalu (base salary of $6m this coming year)
My guess is we can get Willie at half that number, Clark takes a restructuring and Harrison/Troy each agree to have part of their salaries deferred. So we might save close to $5m there, too. If we do, then we have enough dough to do what we need to do in the offseason.
As I said, it’s tight…but not unmanageable.
Thanks for this.
I agree with most of it. I don’t think they’ll do vet minimum for Hines: kinda insulting. I’m guessing they round up to something respectable sounding.
Wallace is a given. I think we might be surprised at the deal they pull off for him: last season had some surprises like this. I’d really like them to sign Cotchery to a longer deal: I think of him as Hines Jr.
I think you’re spot on about restructuring. If memory serves me right, there’s a new TV deal coming next year-ish, which will be huge and increase the cap accordingly. The Steelers could defer some of the salaries to the next several years without really cutting into their cap in those years. In fact, it might be wise to do so before players’ expectations rise with the new cap. Maybe sign Wallace to a contract with a small first year, increasing quickly in years 2-4?
Of course, there’s always some surprise player that the Front Office sees more in that we do , so who knows. Here’s to you, William Gay, poster child for surprises!
Well...
I dont see Battle, Allen, or Scott being gone… 1st 2 are on the cheap and special teams players, and Scott added depth at tackle…
I think Foote is the better keep of the two, just less mileage…
And If I were Colon, I wouldnt be restructuring a contract Ive already waited, earned and signed last season… would guess there gonna be some shaking up of the roster further…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
The first two are cheap, but we can probably find replacements for them that are cheaper. Of the two, I could see Will Allen sticking. Unless we don’t resign Max or release Willie, Scott’s far too expensive for our 4th tackle.
Foote/Farrior is a toss-up – it all depends on who is ultimately cheaper from a cap standpoint. I’d rather have Farrior, because I think he’s more effective and we get the better cap help from releasing Foote.
As for Willie, he’s not going to have much of a choice. His contract is mostly salary and no one is going to offer him much of anything since he’s been injured so much he has 1 start in two years. Do you think anyone else will offer him more than $2.5m or $3m to come into camp?
well….battle is depth at Rec. as I dont think Ward will be returning… its a crap shoot on foote-farrior… Farrior might save cap room, but he is too slow in pass coverage, something become more important with these rules changes, + I seen him get beat repeatedly on run support this yr….think his time has come..
as for Willie….well..he has a signed contract, what leverage does the team have?… release him, pay him anyway, and then need a starting tackle…?… just dont see that happening… heck…he might welcome it given the 2 significant injuries he’s suffered…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
i dont see scott going either….unless… we draft a LT in the first round…. he might not have proved himself yet against elite pass rushers, but hes certainly more affordable then keeping Max around or worry about his ballooning weight problems
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
hate talking about these guys whom have contributed yr in n yr out like a sheet of toilet paper… but…some tough decisions are coming re the OFL, Battle and Allen both have been exceptional on special teams…not sure you take a risk of saving 500k to replace them, and risk losing talent on ST’s, (and Allen obv a need as safty BU)
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
alot of these guys jobs, and decisions of who stays and who goes cant be decided till draft day… given players, and positions you might be looking to upgrade might be taken… and out draft selections changed accordingly towards best available talent at other positions…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Releasing Willie is exactly the leverage the team has. Willie found out last year that he wasn’t in huge demand, though there was some. Now, after missing all of last year? The demand for a RT who has played in 1 game in the last two seasons isn’t high. He’d be fairly fortunate to get a $1.5m deal with incentives to come into someone else’s training camp. So yeah, he takes $2.5 or $3m guaranteed by the Steelers or he walks and takes his chances elsewhere. That’s the game every NFL team plays with their players and, in this case, Willie has relatively little leverage.
As I said about Scott, provided Max and Willie return, we’re not paying our 4th tackle $3m a year. Period. I’d bet my salary on it. Considering the relationship between Ben and Max, I think Max is resigned for 2 years and Scott is cast off. Now if Max or Willie doesn’t come back, that’s a different issue.
Sad but true
This is sad because Farrior has always been one of my favorites but i have a feeling his name is being called , and does this acutally mean the end for Ward as well? I really hope not, because when he was put in last year he did prodcuce but he just didnt get a lot of opporutnites. BUT If it takes those two and a couple more to be able to keep wallace and brown for the future then i’m all for it. Just still sad to me i guess.
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Post Gazette is reporting...
Arians “might not return” next season.
Thats like cnet reporting
they think the next ipad will have retina display.
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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 19, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
not sure how I feel about that...
But, I wouldnt be interested in signing Indy’s fired head coach… lots of others Id slate ahead of him…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 19, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
he is the last person we need for the OC job
probably need to just promote someone
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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 19, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
He very good at saying a whole lot without actually saying anything meaningful
by average joe blow on Jan 19, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions
That's how these things usually go
Talk about enough different things so there’s more breadth than depth to the comments you make, then when pressed about a certain topic, be careful that you don’t explicitly say any more than what you’ve planned so there’s always some doubt/plausible deniability. You provide the illusion that someone at the very top is open to discussing things and the PR boost from that, but you carefully coach him to not say anything that could be controversial.
These aren’t all accounts of the same interview/press conference, but rather Rooney did three or four separate sit-downs with various people and there was still quite a bit of word-for-word or near word-for-word overlap – very rehearsed responses.
So you usually do have to try to read between the lines, to a degree.
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by barnerburner on Jan 19, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I saw Smizik and stopped caring
that man is a hack
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I thought about just ignoring it
It was just a line in the PPG summary piece, and Smizik’s post attaching names was pure speculation – the most useful thing out of it was the link to their “official” transcript of the interview.
But Gerry Dulac also put his name on the scuttlebutt last night (rumors intensifying part), and if he was willing to play that card in the “real” news section, it had to be mentioned. Even if it’s just discredited soon.
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by barnerburner on Jan 19, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Off topic, but
Bouchette just reported that Kirby Wilson was next in line for offensive coordinator :(
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Off topic? It's totally on topic
I did see Bouchette’s post on it today, and it is interesting how he kept talking about Rooney as the one possibly calling the shots on this.
The “revelation” (in quotes because this is first I heard it and there’s been nothing else to back it up) that Wilson was next in line is surprising in that I wouldn’t think that a running backs coach would have an inside track for offensive coordinator in this new passing league.
But it does make the accident and his situation seem even more tragic now…
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by barnerburner on Jan 19, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Implications?
Rooney as the one possibly calling the shots on this.
So it would be taken out of Tomlin’s hands? What does that say, about Tomlin – or the Rooney’s approach to management? (acknowledging the qualifier, “possibly”)
Also, that men already on board are first up? This one doesn’t surprise me, but there are candidates out there worth considering, right?
One more thing – everyone assumes its Arians as the “senior”….don’t be surprised to see Lebeau maybe call it…….
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
I think that if its the Rooneys driving this issue...
…it may be more to give Tomlin the necessary back-up in the event Arians does move on, when dealing with Ben and others. Remember, Arians has been on the staff since 2004; he’s had a lot of interaction with a great many offensive players, and Ben has made numerous public comments about wanting him to stick around. The Rooneys might just be taking a more visible role in this to ensure that this is a Steeler decision, not necessarily just a Tomlin decision.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
You could try (Well, try) to restructure Hines contract so it'll cost less
Letting Casey go would be painful, but, you could always draft a guy like Chapman. Just doing those two could save a lot of $$$, and make the team younger in the process
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 19, 2012 6:09 PM EST reply actions
Are we missing one big cap possibility?
I see a lot of names bandied about for cuts and restructuring salaries to stay. Mostly will Ward take a cut to play here?
What about the biggest (player) expense the Steelers have? I’m talking about Ben. No one has even broached the idea of him restructuring his pay to allow maybe a premier guard to come here to give him more time to do what he likes rather than get knocked on his butt.
The 102 million dollar man might be able to shed a few to help the cause. That would be a gigantic help for the cap. It could save Ben’s future as a QB and might even keep Bruce on the staff.
But…money does funny things to people.
I'm sure the possibility of asking him to do it again has been discussed by the front office
Ben did restructure his contract this past offseason to help us get under the cap
But I’m not sure if that’d free up enough space to then allow us to bring in a top-flight free agent guard.
Are you on Facebook? Have you connected with BTSC's page yet? You should.
by barnerburner on Jan 19, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
OC Candidates - guys I'd like to see interviewed
Joe Lombardi – Saints QB Coach
Aaron Kromer – Saints OL/Running Game
Josh McDaniels – Pats O Assistant
Tom Clements – GB QB Coach and former Steeler QB Coach
Why Josh McDaniels? Is it his amazing ability to destroy anything he touches when he’s not riding on the genius’ coat tails?
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I'm intrigued by anyone...
…coming out of the Saints organization, and Tom Clements.
Josh McDaniels would be kryptonite to the Steeler locker room; no way would he even get an interview.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
this
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Jan 20, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Josh
As an OC, he did great with NE. He made crazy personnel moves in Denver, but he won’t have that authority with the Steelers. Of course, his Tebow draft doesn’t look to crazy…now does it?
Just an interview…most people didn’t want Tomlin to interview either – just to hire Grimm or Whiz.
by SteelheadOH on Jan 21, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions

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