Rashard Mendenhall Has Torn ACL, Will Miss Playoffs and Possibly Training Camp
by Neal Coolong on Jan 2, 2012 5:28 PM EST
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PrintAdam Schefter of ESPN is reporting a source confirmed with him Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall has a torn ACL in his right knee, and he will be done for the season.
It likely won't come as a surprise, considering Mendenhall went down without being hit, and was unable to return to the game. It's unfortunate all the same, not just because the Steelers leading rusher will be out for the playoffs, but the fact an ACL tear is typically an eight-month recovery.
That may hinder his ability to prepare for the regular season in training camp. Incidentally, rookie RB Baron Batch tore his ACL in training camp this year, and is expected to be back in time for mini camp in May.
Mendenhall has one more year on his initial contract, and he is scheduled to be a free agent in 2013. This injury obviously will damage the value of that second contract, but he was running well in the opportunities he had this season. He was at 38 yards through one quarter in the game, putting him on pace to top 1,000 yards for the third consecutive season.
This is the second time in his career he's missed significant action. He broke his collar bone in Week 5 of his rookie season of 2008, and missed much of the team's run to the Super Bowl.
With this news in hand, the Steelers will likely keep Isaac Redman as their featured back, and work in Mewelde Moore (if healthy) and rookie John Clay. Moore has missed the last two games with a knee injury of his own, but fortunately for the Steelers, was not placed on Injured Reserve.
Redman was running well in the role Mendenhall would have had, but two fumbles on his final two carries got him put on the bench, and made what should have been a two-plus possession win a game in which Cleveland attempted a last-second pass that could have won it.
Redman hasn't shown much of a propensity to fumble in the past. Of his first 160 professional carries, he lost the ball only once. Turnovers are critical in the post-season, and Redman should expect the Broncos to aggressively attack the ball now.
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Oh fuck me
Redman, you better hang on to that damn ball..
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Redman’s second fumble was due in part because the dude just wont go down and he got held up by three guys then a fourth guy just came in and teed off on him from behind. But still he needs to focus on ball security for sure.
See, this is what I don't understand
Why is him not going down the reason he fumbled? Should he not protect the ball simply because he’s trying to gain more yards?
He didn’t protect the football, that’s why he fumbled.
You can only hold the ball so long
If you look at that 2nd one, he’s nearly downed. But he got spun 180 degrees, laid on his back by two guys hitting him right in the chest where he is holding the ball securely.
And then a 3rd guy pounces on the other arm and it’s out.
It’s a freak accident.
The first one however, that was bad.
Agree
with all points…he’s working hard, and more times than not that’s going to pay off for him.
by pistil_stamen on Jan 3, 2012 2:30 AM EST up reply actions
In my opinion, I am happy that he fumbled....
Now he’ll learn and won’t make the same mistake against the Broncos..
Sorry about that
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Gotta admit...
those first three words were pretty much my exact same thought when I first heard that Mendy was out for the rest of the playoffs.
Bound to cover just a little more ground.
How many "I will not swear on BTSC" = a Language Lap?
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by SNW on Jan 2, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Start running now
and if you run fast enough you can quit right before the super bowl…
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 3, 2012 3:58 AM EST up reply actions
Questions about other injuries
Will Memo be back for playoffs? How bad was Cortez Allen injury? And are Ramon Foster and David Johnson ok? Just curious if anyone knows anything about the status of these guys
Heard Cortez was just a separated shoulder.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jan 2, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Needs to be back for NE
Whenever that is.
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by SNW on Jan 2, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ever had a separated shoulder?
A Type I takes a few weeks before you can move the arm freely. A Type II is 6-8 weeks with PT.
that's for us mortals
in the NFL I hear they have miracle shots and braces for that sort of thing. I’d expect he’ll be back for NE
usually? it happened once.
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I like having Mendenhall in the lineup
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Robo Punter also
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by SNW on Jan 2, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeahhh!!!
And last time an Undrafted Steelers RB started on a Superbowl we won!… That year we went to the big game as a wild card!
I think this all are messages from the football gods!!!
i know, riiight??
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jan 2, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Currently the top two backs are UFA
So yeah, I guess.
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Mendy out
That is bad news, especially since he seemed to be getting better heading down the stretch. Redman can be very productive, lets just hope he can hang onto the ball against Denver and throughout the playoffs…..
Gonna have to think about drafting a RB next yr
Mendy – torn acl
Redman
Dwyer- foot injury- didnt show me he was ready to step up
Clay- unknown
Batch- knee – unknown
Thats some pretty thin coverage in our backfield…
Wonder if they would consider taking a high pick Lamar Miller from Miami would be a great pick up, but he wont be round long..
I like that Rainey kid
I don’t think a high pick is necessarily warranted. I think something like half of the league’s top rushing leaders this year were undrafted. Tons of talent at that position every year.
This kids got great upside...only a sophmore...
been stellar in his 2 yrs at miami….if were gonna wait down the board….well… not sure we’ll get what we want…i’ll admitt I’ll have to look at this kid youve mentioned….i really like Polk as well..but… he also has had knee problems…but he really did play on a terrible team this yr, and is a work horse from the games Ive watched
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
WK Rainey or GA Rainey...?
GA went down with a blown out knee… the other looks interesting….
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
If the Steelers spent an early pick on any RB I would throw a baby down a well.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Well, lots of thing to consider
Like, Salary already spent on ea postion…..
Were deep on DB talent deep at SF
$$$ into LB’s…
good depth at TE and WR
Ill be the first to admitt we need another DL and OL… but we can get plenty of lineman in the 2-3 rounds that fit our needs…. not to mention weve got upteen OLmen and many signed to long long term contract and for big dollars.. to me…..if you can get the kid I mentioned it fills our first long term need….. and there are 2 DL I really like I think we can get in the second round
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Good RBs can be found at any round in the draft so there is no reason to spend a high pick on one anymore unless they are the next AD (which Miller is probably not).
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Fred Jackson – Undrafted
Arian Foster – Undrafted
MJD – Late 2nd round
Frank Gore – 3rd round
DeMarco Murray – 3rd round
Hillis – 7th round
Jamaal Charles – 3rd round
Roy Helu (this kid will be a beast next year) – 4th round
Michael Turner – 5th round
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Well...really not an issue who's where in the league is it...
Has to do with our needs ultimately for a cant miss elite RB to fill Mendy’s shoes,… as break in next yr, and ultimately possibley taking the RB in his second year when we need to negotiate Mendy’s contract…..
Weve taken the pass first approach on offense, but count on a elite RB to complement …..we have no elite RB behind Mendy whom might not 1st of all be 100% on opening day, or around past next yr……
I like the pick….. under 4.3 speed, cant be brought down by one tackler…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Miller is elite and maybe his isn’t, but even if he is we don’t need him. In this pass-first offense we need a good QB (which we have), great WRs (which we have), and a decent line. Would an elite RB be nice? Sure. But we don’t need one. I’d much rather spend our first pick on a guard/tackle to protect Ben, an ILB to replace Farrior, or a NT to replace Big Snack.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
comes down to the players and contracts on the books....
weve got argueably 4 tackles 1 of which is Bens bud, another signed to a 50 miil dollar contract, not to mention Gilbert…..
You got Legursky, Essex, and Pouncy whom are a lock to make the squad… that leaves one guard spot open, and lots of talent further down the draft board, same at ILB…… same at DT-NT comes down to getting pieces, and filling postions of greatest need….. I want another ILB-NT/DT as well….I like the washington kid as well, but Mclendon can fill that roll another year if needed…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Legursky is a lock to make the squad?
His versatility at the interior line positions is nice, but he is simply NOT very good at any position other than center, and that’s where the team’s best lineman starts.
RB is not a position that you have to draft super high these days, and a better line can make a decent back look great.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 2, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Upshaws the only ILB worthy of a 1st round pick.......
just WAYYYYY to much talent in other areas in the draft….. but we’ll get to draft day in Feb…
and you over look the quality depth of guard in the draft in the 2-3 rounds….. and vertern free agent lineman available ea yr…unlike a Tomlinson type back in free agency that are rare….not to mention mostly big contract signings…
I could point our 5 excetional values at G in the 2-3 rounds to select from only 2-3 rounders due to talent heavy postions elsewhere…… There are only 2 first round talents at G in this yrs draft….. were not getting anywhere near Decastro of Stanford, and I want no part of Cordy Glenn of GA, he’s a ballon of a guard and will be fighting weigh problems his whole career….any other guard in the draft is a mid to late second round pick at best, and loads of them in the 3rd round….
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying Keuchly isn’t worthy of a first round pick? Really? I disagree with that completely. He’s not the most athletic LB on the block, sure, but the kid can ball. And I believe that Burfict, despite his attitude problems, is also worth a first round pick. And even if there isn’t an ILB, NT, or G/T prospect available when we pick, I would still rather draft any other position except for HB. I would take a S, CB, OLB, DE, or WR before I take a HB, unless of course that HB is miles ahead of any other prospect.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
I dont believe either one
Is worth reaching for…and I especially dont like making 1st round picks whom wont play regularly in their first season, whats Sylvester to be used for…special teams?.not to mention the $$$ tied up already at the position….Im all for picking an ILB, just not in the first round… were deep in safty, troy,clark,mundy,allen…pointless to take a safty…were deep in talent on the corner, olb, and wr…I think our OL is completely underrated, and take a rash of abuse for what was an injury riddled season, and how they are asked to perform…we are a trap pull G type on running team…cant expect to dive left-right to run, unless were going to change our running scheme dont see how changing players is going to have a significant change in play… I want all the things we all want…another ILB, DL, OL…but given the fact were looking at opening the next season potentially with Redman-Clay in the backfiled.. and given the shelf life of a good running back, I think we would be closing our eyes not to consider one.. see ya on draft day to see how things shake out…. prob all moot as everyone and there mother things were taking Ta’Amu out of washington
by OR69faithfull on Jan 3, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
No one is talking about reaching for anybody. I’m just pointing out that the chances of Richardson (the only RB I would take in the first) falling to us is basically 0%. Since this is the case, I’m willing to bet we take an ILB, a G/T, a NT, or even a CB, since there are players at all of those positions who are usually mocked towards the end of the first round, which is where we will pick. Hell, there a few OLB prospects that would suit us who could fall to the end of round one. But I guarantee that we will not be picking a RB in the first round.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
easy stance to take...
given every mock draft or sports analyst has expressed the same obvious opinion…
You must have ties to the steeler scouting dLaepartment making the statements you freely wield..
Lamar Miller as a sophmore will most likely make the first round, and if her doesnt, will be scooped up VERY early in the second round….point is……clearly if he returns to play his jumior season, he’s a shoe in to be a top 15 pick in the 2013 draft… quite simply posted a suggestion to what I feel now is our most glaring need….a running back….. I have no interest at all with all the $$$ tied up at linebacker drafting a 1st rounder….heck, Id rather take a wag at Oregons Kiko Alonso 3-5-7th rounds at 6-4 240lbs but i guess saying that everyone and their mother already has us picking Ta’Amu at NT doesnt fill your needs.
by OR69faithfull on Jan 3, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
It’s an easy stance to take because it is the most logical one. There are seventeen positions on the Steelers team (QB, RB, FB, TE, WR, C, G, T, NT, DE, ILB, OLB, CB, SS, FS, K, P) and the chance that we take any one of those positions is small. I’m going to eliminate C, QB, FB, K, P, so that leaves 12 positions left that the Steelers could choose. That’s about and 8.333% chance of each position being picked, which means that there is a 91.666% chance the Steelers choose something other than a RB (11 × 8.333). I’m not even taking into account real-world variables like who is there, who the teams before us pick, how the Steelers manage their draft board, the value of a RB (which has slipped), etc.
I’m just pointing out the obvious, and that is that there is a tiny, insignificant chance that the Steelers take a RB in the first round. And rightfully so, because RBs, unless they are AD-like from the start, are not worth first round picks.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
QB over RB
If we had a QB and a RB of equal value fall to us in the draft in the first round (this is just a generalization), at this point in time I would take the QB knowing that he will likely sit the bench for the better part of 3 years and that we may end up trading him away before Ben retires. Good RBs are plentiful and cheap (in terms of draft position) so why take one over anyone else.
I would take a RB ahead of a FB, PK or P at that point in the draft though.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 3, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Snap on your chin strap and bump heads
who gives a rats a** what you think….. or counter point why the running back I mentioned is not a ligit 1st round prospect worthy of our considertion..
you one dimensional thinking and total blind eye to where are salries are distributed does carry any cadence with me…..not to mention were one snap away from having Clay as our premier back with a simple injury to Redman…..and Miller IS the running back you suggest.would be worthy…..and it will come to fruition (barring injury) that he will be a stellar back in the NFL… done checking back on your thoughts…..
by OR69faithfull on Jan 3, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
It’s almost like you don’t know how to read…
Miller isn’t worthy of our first round pick for several reasons:
1. We, with out pass-first offense, don’t need an elite RB (assuming that Miller even is elite).
2. With Batch back next year I would be completely fine with our RB corps.
3. Great RBs are found throughout the draft and it’s not like Miller is some can’t-miss prospect. I guarantee there are running backs just as good if not better than Miller in the middle rounds of the draft.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
I can read fine.....
your just to blind to see the running back situation…..
Mendy blew out his knee with ZERO contact, that tells me it going to be a recurring problem….. Dwyer hasnt showed me anything……Batch just blew out his knee…. talking about a significant risk at counting on all three next season………
As for you pass first blabber…. see how fast teams tee off on our passing game when were a one dimensional team…….
As for your other mid draft Rb thoughts,
proff in the puddin so far…If u ask me Dwyer is a bust……. no more time for you…….. but im QUITE sure youll have some other dribble to post…..I wont be readin it……..
by OR69faithfull on Jan 3, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
and I quote"
" There really wasnt much point to redshirt Miller in 2009, because there is no way the Hurricanes are keeping this guy around for four years..In fact. ne may be gone after two. Miller is just a sophmore, but appears ready to take his talents to the next level. As a Sophmore, the running back amassed 646 yards and 6 touchdowns on just 108 carries. His yards per carry (6.0 2010) is right up there again in 2011 (5,8) as Miller has rushed 137 times for 799yds and six scores through seven games. The miami native also has 11 receptions in ea campaign….
Miller is built solidly at 5-11 212lbs. His speed is what is going to earn him his paycheck on sundays, he generally runs a 4.4 in the 40 and has been clocked as fast as 4.32. With the combination of speed and size, Miller is a load to tackle and he rarely goes down on initial impact. It often requires alot more then one defender to end the play when Mill has the ball…….
Needs to work on blocking n receiving skills…..he looks like a sec rounf pick in 2012, and with a stellar combine he could slip to the first round"
by OR69faithfull on Jan 3, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Legursky is undersized
but has played well next to Pouncey. . .I really think if they drafted a bulldozer rt guard that that would be a really solid interior that would combo block as good as anyone!
essex fights for a roster spot every year
next year is no exception. really we have 3 expendable guards on the roster in Essex, Kemo, and Foster. maybe even legursky
I would say Legursky is a keeper
due to his great versatility, and hes our best backup to Pouncey. Foster has done decent this year, but Kemo and Essex are expendable in my eyes
Possibly
And, Pouncey thus far is either unlucky, or has been injury prone- time will tell.
But, at either of the guard positions, Legursky just looks overmatched. If things go well with Pouncey, the position Legs plays best (by far) will not need his services.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 2, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
And Essex...
…how many players do we have that can play every position on the OL?? Need to keep him for depth.
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I would agree with this
All have versatility going for them, but none have “being good” going for them. All 3 COULD make the squad, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see only 1, at most 2 of them back in September.
Foster has seemed to occasionally play the best among those guys, Essex probably makes it because he can play so many positions, but really, the Steelers offensive line just needs a talent infusion. I would assume Kemo is gone after this season.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 2, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Total Line Overhaul..but in free agency
Offensive line is one of the few areas that I regularly see free agents be just as dominant with their new squad as they were with the old one. I believe we need to take a page from New England and Tom Donahoe’s old book (only in this case) and look to sign proven talent to the line even if there is a high cost. I truly believe the basic reason the Steelers have been good but not consistently dominant the last couple of years is the offensive line’s iinability to protect Ben and open up lanes to run even when the other team knows it’s coming.
thats my view.....
you can get pro bowl OL in free agency every yr…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 3, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
What?
The Steelers have been to three Super Bowls in the last six years and have won two of them. What more do you people want?
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
6 for 6 all w's
And the reteric would be, well, basically the same.
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I’d say the reason they haven’t been consistently dominant is because it’s the NFL and that’s the way it was designed…
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I also think Sylvester and Woirlds are canidates to move to inside not to mention Carter....
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
I want to keep Worilds on the outside so he can learn the position and hopefully take over for Harrison in a few years.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
you got Sylvester already sitting in the wings on the inside and also Carter....can only carry so many linebackers....
what do you do with Worilds, Sylvester, Carter… granted this could be Farriors last year, but no 1st yr ILB making it into the starting line up… have you looked at the talent at ILB this yr?… Only Upshaw of Alabama is worthy of a first round pick, and we would have to move up to get him… its a mediocore ILB draft at best…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
off to do other things
plenty of draft talk in the months to come
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
I want to field the bet players on the team..
If worilds needs to slide in, then so be it, till debo retires…otherwise its wasted talent
by OR69faithfull on Jan 3, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
How many sophmore Rb's are being pojected into the bottom of the first round?..
Hes got stellar speed, size, hands….
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Again?
Don’t waste a pick for another RB
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
I would say yes to this if Mendenhall is going to stay in Pitt.
I heard he was upset about his carries here. I would try trading him for something and then draft another one like him
I heard he was upset about his carries here
Proof?
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
So it’s probably not true.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Dumb
Too many other needs. Redman will fill in the spot nicely. Mendenhall is in line for a big year next year (coming off a down year and in a contract year). I’ll be ticked off if we even spend a 7th round pick on a RB.
What they need to do
(Assuming he gets healthy) is get him the ball in space. Short passes. He’s done really well with them, given the opportunity, it gives the offense another dimension, and it leaves him in as a potential receiver OR to pickup the blitz.
I get frustrated seeing so many empty backfield sets where the defense sends the house, and #7 gets sacked for eight yards.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 2, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Ben gets sacked for hanging on to the ball too long as well
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
I HAVE noticed that tendency
But he also refuses to checkdown a lot, and in Ward, Miller, and Mendenhall, he has been surrounded for years by guys who can take a 5 yard pass, and get another 5 for a first down on it.
The team needs an OC who is willing and able to reign him in.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 3, 2012 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with this
I see him not even looking at the check down receiver. Some of the games it is like the defense knows he is not throwing to that guy so they don’t cover him.
Not to mention..
Baron Batch. Hope that kid can stay healthy next year. He really sounded like he was impressing in the abbreviated training camp.
Bound to cover just a little more ground.
Doesn't matter
BA likes to pass 40-50 times a game anyway
Impose your will.
by ALDOG on Jan 2, 2012 7:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What do you think. . .
Lamichael James would look like in a Steelers uniform??? He could be the AFC’s version of Sproles!
Im in Oregon seen alot of him...
he would be a 2 down back-specialty in a Pro scheme offense…hes small… Not my first choice
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
RBs are a dime a dozen in today's NFL and in our system
I wouldn’t spend a high pick on a RB, especially when we could better be spent using those picks on a K, P, or QB.
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by John Stephens on Jan 3, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
lol
I agree about the QB but not a K or PK. First round we can take BPA and be fine as long as we get a good G in the first 2 or 3 rounds. We have enough older players looking to retire and enough that seem to be chronically getting injured that we will have room for a person at any position
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 3, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking a K in the 5th or 6th. We really cannot rely on Suisham to be our kicker.
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by John Stephens on Jan 3, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Dwyer was doing pretty good
He did have about the best game for a RB we had this year against the Titans. I was bummed out he went on IR.
No but Farrior and Foote are.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Again....there are 4-5 good prospects on the inside LB this yr...
whom you might say are apples an apples… whom will be availble in the sec and third round…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Top 3 ILBs will probably be gone by our pick. I really would like us to get a shot at Burfict.
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by John Stephens on Jan 3, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
you know he’s second on the team in tackles? This is despite the fact that he was forced to play OLB, which is far less “tackle friendly” for close to half the year?
We hear that b.s every year. He’s doing fine. He’s not going to get a ton of sacks or int’s so people will always say he’s underperforming
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
It's not the sacks that bother me. . .
We have heard from day one how he is this supreme athlete who should be able to run with backs and TE’s out of the backfield and I think he was exposed everytime the d called for him to match up in this way. . .In the first match up, Ray Rice ran circles around him and they rarely matched him up against Gronk when we play NE. . .I just don’t feel like he has lived up to his billing! What have you seen that makes you feel that he is or can be so dominant??
Excuse me for saying so. . .
doesn’t it both you just a little that the leading tackler on this team is a safety? don’t you find it a little incriminating that you don’t have a linebacker in a 3-4 defense as your leading tackler??
No
Clark does a good job sticking his head in on run support, unlike some FS. It’s not like the D is last the league – they are the best in the league – and best against the pass. Maybe Clark has been playing a lot of robber this year so he’s been in on the action.
we have been using alot of LBs
and basically 1 FS. Thinking about it, Clark probably has more minutes on the field for our defence than anyone other than Ike and maybe Willie Gay this season. There has been a constant rotation in the front 7 between injuries, suspensions and rotating people to keep them fresh during the game.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 2, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
So who do we pick up?
This leaves us with 2 healthy RB’s and a one dimensional rush attack. Redman can pound it for sure, but displays very unimpressive speed. I’m sorry but clay looks very unimpressive and would preffer he didn’t see the field at all. Are there any free agents out there that we can sign that may give us some help?
always felt clay was or FB thought...
This Miami kid is a keeper from what Ive been reading…Mendy could easily blow that knee out again, not to mention his contract is up…you want to spend $$$ next yr?..or have some options..
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
practice squad
Clay was on the practice squad for a reason. He wasn’t as good as the guys ahead of him. If Baron Batch hadn’t wrecked his knee, Clay might not have made the PS.
I am happy about how well he has played but I still wouldn’t have him on the field ahead of Mendenhall, Redman, Moore or Dwyer if they were healthy.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 2, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
I think we need to start Batch saturday.
I know this sounds crazy but this offense hasn’t moved with Ben being Injured. I think if we give him a week off he might be healed up a little bit more for the game against NE.
Yes I am looking past the Broncos but I can do this, the players cant. Tebow will not be able to score on our D. But again I am fan I can over look the players can not.
This crap that Tomlin and Ben said he needs to play is BS. I think the game against Cleavland set us back another week.
Baron Batch?
If only we could get him from IR!!!
Start Charlie Batch?
Over our Superbowl-winning QB? Lol
Tebow will not be able to score on our D.
Stop underestimating the man. You never know what’s going to happen.
This crap that Tomlin and Ben said he needs to play is BS
BS? Seriously? Playing the Browns was the perfect time for Ben and the Offense to get back into sync.
If Ben didn’t play yesterday, we would be going to Denver unprepared.
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Listen our defense is perfect against Tebow
Again I am saying this, I hope the players are not, they are the ones that need to prepare I have my own job to do which is actually no job but I am trying to up my rank in Battlefield 3.
I would have rather had Ben resting for two weeks then playing Denver but he did not rest now his ankle is not any better. Ben is a veteran most of his prep is video. I really don’t think that not practicing is hurt him and his WR’s timing. We scored a total of 16 points in his two starts. Ben in not his self with that ankle being hurt and he is never a great QB if he has to stay inside the pocket.
Yes I say we need to start Charlie Batch. Ben is not a Super Bowl winning QB when he is stuck in the pocket.
Ben is not a Super Bowl winning QB when he is stuck in the pocket.
I disagree. He is great when scrambling and creating plays, yes, but he is also a pretty good pocket passer.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Just look at his past two starts 16 points
I know SF and Cleavland have decent Defense’s but he much better when he dodges those sacks
He also couldn’t step into his passes because of his bum ankle, but I guess that has nothing to do with it…
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
thats kind of what he was saying anyway
the only time ben is contained to the pocket consistently is when he’s hurt, ergo..
Ben is a veteran most of his prep is video. I really don’t think that not practicing is hurt him and his WR’s timing.
Timing is everything now and days. You need to practice in order to get that right.
I know what you’re saying, but a crippled Ben gives us the best chance to win. He didn’t look too bothered with his ankle. The lack of practice and Cleveland’s Defense were the reasons why he struggled
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Mini is correct -
timing is everything. Did you notice how few passes Ben completed at the beginning of the game, and how he was completing most of them at the end? He has to get in a rhythm, not just with his receivers but with his body as it is functioning at the moment. He figures out what works right and what he has to compensate for. He can only do that in a game.
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 3, 2012 4:06 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldnt argue this if this is training camp
but if he doesn’t have chemistry with these guys now then he never will. We have made it to the playoffs We will not beat the Pats in Gillette stadium with a bum right ankle. we stink with Ben bum right ankle and can barely beat the Browns.
I disagree
Its a mute point now but we needed to be a little more open to looking at the big picture. . .we need a healthy BR if we are going to make it to Peyton’s home. . .resting him would have been the right call!
Starting him Saturday is fine
As the game will be played on Sunday.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 2, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
I thought
He should have sat out the Cleveland game. Unless he is walking like he was in San Francisco…there should be no question about him starting on Sunday.
by pistil_stamen on Jan 3, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
Anthony Madison is back
Curtis Brown or Cortez Allen is going on the IR.
Think the Steelers can sign Hillis in the off-season? :-) Moore is in his last year. Hillis, Mendy, Redman, Batch is a nice stable. Keep Dwyer or Clay on the PS…
I don’t want to go anywhere near Hillis. The dude was a locker-room cancer for the Browns this year and will want big time money, which he won’t get here.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
I would not pay him big bucks
but the Browns’ locker room (read Shurmer) and the Steeler’s locker room (read Tomlin) are worlds apart.
Who cares
Hillis was a one year wonder and is now injury prone. Stay away…
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
or
a Black Cadillac…
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 AM EST up reply actions
But I do like me some...
…Green eggs and ham!
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Madison? damn.
Can’t we just convert Tyler Grisham into a nickel corner?
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jan 2, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Antonio Brown
He can play corner too. 2 tackles two weeks ago
Only
the Patriots are allowed to convert WR’s into DB’s and somehow have it work.
by pistil_stamen on Jan 3, 2012 2:38 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Curtis Brown was on IR already
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 2, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
ACL injuries
I’ve heard these ACL injuries take a full year after the surgery before the player approaches the form they had before. Even then, you just don’t know.
I think the club will draft a RB in the middle rounds in April, and one back with a third round grade to watch is Boise State’s Doug Martin. Has pass catching ability, and surprising speed. Took the opening kickoff the distance in Boise’s bowl game last week.
He will be ok
They have came a long way ing ixing and preparing for his injury. It is like the Tommy john surgery when they first fixed it they took nearly a year and half now it is like 10 mos
I've heard that the RB position is going to really take a hit in salary the next few years
The rules are all steering teams to a pass oriented offense with the RB position becoming more of a supporting role. I’m guessing that this will show up in free agency, salary cap decisions, and the draft.
One of the things changing in the game is the need for a linebacker that can cover these big tight ends. This is something that the Steelers should be trying to get a leg up on.
I would be strongly against the Steelers spending an early pick for a running back. I feel the needs that could be addressed with early pick talent are OL, DL, LB, Safety, and Kicker. I think a kicker like just about every other team seems to have would be a greater need than running back.
If the Steelers spent anything besides a 7th or late 6th round pick on a kicker I would throw two babies down a well. However, I agree with the rest of your post.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Any two babies
in particular, or are we talking random babies here?
Bound to cover just a little more ground.
Whichever babies are unlucky enough to be in my vicinity.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Or in the seats behind you
screaming, crying, and vomiting during a cross continental flight.
Bound to cover just a little more ground.
Timmons
I’m hoping he’s able to step up and shut down the new “big TE as a receiver” that we’ve seen become a real factor lately in a lot of teams O schemes.
Bound to cover just a little more ground.
Really. . .
What evidence are you looking at that makes you feel that he is capable of this???
what evidence are you looking at that says he isn’t? How many games this season have you watched, then re-watched a few times only focusing on Timmons?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
well, let's see. . .
Ray Rice ran circles around him when his job was to shadow him in game 1 of this year, Cook from the Titans had a few nice catches when he was matched up against him and Hernandez caught a few over him in the game against NE. . .and that was just a few off the top of my head. . .who are you- his PR manager? Do you really think he covers well??
No, I’m not, but just like Gay bashing or B.A bashing, criticizing Timmons has become the “thing to do”. There isn’t a LB in the NFL that can cover Rice or Hernandez all day. They are match-up nightmares, that’s why they are successful.
You’re also leaving out the fact that because you thought his job was to shadow Rice all day, it doesn’t mean it was. Lebeau runs a very complex defensive scheme that rarely assigns one player to one player an entire game.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
You
realize that Pittsburgh has the best pass defense in the league, right? He must not be that bad in coverage. Ray Rice, Aaron Hernandez and Vernon Davis make defenders look silly every week.
by pistil_stamen on Jan 3, 2012 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
I think our 3-4 scheme and linebacker prototype has given us a diff path to cover these TE's...
were committed to covering with now larger DB’s and safties….if you look at the recent adds and player development I think youll agree….
by OR69faithfull on Jan 2, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 2, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see a lot of the games
but is there someone currently who has Polamolu’s instincts that will be able to take over for him? If not, that is a draft pick I would like to see. Someone with the instincts and anticipation of Troy. Get him in and let him learn from the master while he is still here. Also maybe another OL from Florida. But with Meyer going to Ohio State, we won’t have to go as far for our OL picks. LOL
by Al_Steelerfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t remember who, but either last week or the week before, I saw someone else on the ‘D’ jump the line as perfectly as Polamalu ever has. Ryan Clark, maybe? Whoever it was, it had Troy written all over it, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s grooming his replacement right now, teaching all these tricks.
That perfectly timing the snap thing absolutely blows me away every time I see it, but the best I saw was 2 or 3 years ago, I watched Troy break up the ‘O’ line, harass the QB, and THEN go out and break up the pass all in one play. Awesome..
by Whogotdickslap on Jan 3, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Here's Hoping...
that the Doncos attack the ball, and The Most Interesting Running Back In the World is able to hang onto it while churning for 3-4 more yards a pop. He’s got his chance at the limelight now. Time to make the most of it.
GO REDMAN!!
Bound to cover just a little more ground.
You're exactly right.
We’ve all at one time or another took our turn pumpin up the Redman myth. NOW is his time. We he finally deliver the HERCULEAN performance we all know that is INSIDE him?
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jan 2, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I thought by 'Most Interesting Running Back in the World'...
…You were talking about Tebow. LOL Can’t wait until people quit getting instant wood and a glazed look in their eyes every time his name comes up…
by Whogotdickslap on Jan 3, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Keenan Lewis, Cortez Allen, Curtis Brown
three young, promising, fast defensive backs, and all part of the reason Steelers were #1 ranked pass defense in the league. And there is a possibility that all three wont be able to play in the playoffs this year, Curtis Brown is definitely done. I cant believe how shitty the Steeler’s luck is when it comes to injuries. If we dont have Lewis and Allen for NE and/or Baltimore I think we are definitely screwed.
Brown didnt contribute much besides ST
Keenan has had the most playing time of the 3, but like you said, its the matchup against NE that Cortez will be so valuable. He matched up so well on Gronk last time. Of course it would be naive to expect him to duplicate that kind of success, but of all our DB’s, he probably is the best suited for the matchup.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jan 2, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Brown was a special teams ACE, Lewis has been huge for us this year and his emergence allowed Gay to go back to the slot where he is much better, and Allen is necessary to beat teams like New England, New Orleans, and Green Bay. So whatever way you look at it, its really a terrible shame these young guys got injured at the worst possible time…..heading into the playoffs. Damn.
It is a shame. . .
They finally have taken a step forward with the depth at this position and maybe unable to reap what they have sewn!
Repeat Fate. . .
I just hope we don’t have deja vu all over again. . .as we did in 2004. . .beating NE decidedly in the regular season only to lose to them when it matters most- in January!
Well this sucks to the utmost degree… We need a RB. I was finally starting to really warm up to Mendy then BAM tragedy strikes. I don’t know guys, and gals. An ACL injury? I may be young, but I think that’s what brought Gale Sayers to Earth.
- JoshMan The Ambidextrous Afroknight
there have been improvements in medicine since the days of G Sayers
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 2, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
HEY....THIS GUY IS AVAILABLE AND READY TO GO! EARTH TO TOMLIN?!?
JALEN PARMELE
Was a third stringer on the Ravens behind mcgahee and Rice. Ravens cut him at the end of the preseason. 25 years old, 225, 4.4 40, 42 inch vertical. Great inside runner, good hands, good special teams guy. Great vision. STeelers could pick him up on the cheap. He would know the RAvens tendencies inside and out hell, he was on the team for 3 years. Cam didn’t play him much cuz he ran the heck out of Rice and sometimes didn’t even play mcgahee…can you believe mcgahee didn’t play in some games last year? The guy runs for 11150 yards in denver and cam doesn’t let him see the field?
Anyway, I know the Colts, the 49’ers, packers and Cowboys were looking at him., Worth bringing in for a look. Remember, it came from Between the Tackles first…..JALEN PARMELE. He’s a poor man’s Medenhall. Played at Toledo was drafted by Dolphins a few years back in 6th round (Bill Parcells was director and GM)..should tell you something.
by Between the tackles on Jan 2, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions
We do need
more than two healthy RBs. I was wondering if we might be seeing FWP come back. We’ve done pretty well with him starting in Play-off games (never lost one) I am not sure if he played in 2004, where he did not start or see the field, but even if he did (we might have won that game were it not for spygate.
I also thought this
A snowball’s chance in hell, but how awesome would it be if he ripped off a long TD on Counter Pike 34.
FWP is no longer....
…FWP. The Redskins wouldn’t even keep him. He has lost any kind of burst, has mediocre speed now, and has been out of football the entire season. WHY would you even think of FWP?
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To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
The Difficulty
with this situation is 3rd down. Without Moore, Redman is still a very reliable 3rd down back, but his frenetic running style leaves him prone to fatigue. He was visibly gassed on several occasions against the Browns. He may be required to play every down on some series, and, at altitude…his ability to protect the QB while tired is a legitimate concern. I hope Moore can go if for nothing else than these situations.
Question
Blitz pickup? Is Redman the only capable and healthy RB to stay in and pick up the blitz? Mendenhall quietly took care of that role. No one knows if Clay can. Do we get Moore back. Is anyone else shaking their head that after a season plagued by injury we see our QB hurt followed by the once healthy depth of the RBs take a hit? Also the DBs were relatively healthy all season and the youth and speed just took a hit as well. Can someone make it stop already? I sound negative, I know, but how can a horse stay in the race this long and show so much heart while someone keeps shooting arrows into it. If this horse can win this whole thing they better give credit to a coaching staff for being so damn competitive in spite of everything going against them.
I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.
by steeltech on Jan 3, 2012 3:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions
And anyone who tells you their team has had their share of injuries is either a fan of a losing team or a fan who isnt capable of giving credit where its due because this is ridiculous and has been season-long. Houston is the only team I could throw some credit to because theyve lost some good pieces here and there and also dont have their QB. Thats about it.
I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.
by steeltech on Jan 3, 2012 3:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Commentators had no idea what they were supposed to be doing...
I watched this on NFL Sunday Ticket, and the morons that were calling the game were clueless, I don’t know the last time that I heard a game where the guys in the booth couldn’t figure out the probable penalties the minute the flag came out. For example, it’s almost guaranteed that a flag on a kickoff or punt will be against the kicking team, but these guys couldn’t figure it out.
The reason I bring this up on this particular board is that not only did these guys not notice that Mendenhall went down, they couldn’t figure out WHO was injured when they finally noticed, or what happened. I’m actually impressed that they figured out which team he played for right away though. A professional crew sees it when it happens, they figure out who the player was, and they remark on the fact that they went down without even getting touched before the first replay is even up.
Talk about clueless, this was brutal, almost as bad as the MNF game with the ESPN morons. All these guys could talk about was how Ben was hurt, and jump on any mistake, and say ‘See he’s not 100%, he’s really having issues.‘, when in reality, although it wasn’t a pretty performance, Ben was NOT really limping all over the place like these dudes implied. The San Francisco game, THAT was limping, Sunday’s game he looked pretty strong, all things considered….
Hell, these guys couldn’t even figure out which way the wind was coming from, they went on and on in both the second and third quarters about how the Steelers were playing “against the wind”…
OK, end rant…
2011 Updated Mock Draft from DaTruth
This is my latest:
1 – LG, Cordy Glenn, Georgia
2 – NT Josh Chapman, Alabama
3 – ILB Kevin Reddick, UNC
4 – FS Baccarri Rambo, U. of Ga.
5 – CB Asa Jackson, Cal Poly
6 – RB Bernard Pierce, Temple.
6 – DE/OLB Jacquies Smith, Missouri
7 – QB, Jordan Jefferson, LSU
The venom they were spewing over at the Dawg Pound...
I used to be cool with Browns fans.
Not anymore. What a bunch of losers.
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