Super Bowl News: The Aftermath of the Conference Championships
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 7:44 AM EST
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The dust clouds (or in the case of Ravens fans, the fury) have settled a bit from two nail-biters in the conference championships and we begin to look ahead to one of the lesser-reported aspects of the Super Bowl; the game itself.
Amid all the overdone storylines we're bound to read ad naseum (did you know the Giants and Patriots played in a recent Super Bowl? Welcome back to relevancy, David Tyree. Can we please get Rodney Harrison to weigh in on how he got beat on that play?), writers around SB Nation are pointing out some interesting details on how the Super Bowl participants made it to the big game.
Ed Valentine of Big Blue View points out three reasons why the Giants defeated the 49ers. Here's a hint, it wasn't because of their pass protection.
He does point out the special teams advantage the Giants had, though. Two Kyle Williams fumbles turned into 10 points, and in a 20-17 game, it can't get much bigger than that.
Along with excellent punting from Sam Weatherford, the Giants were able to use the same elements San Francisco used all season to defeat a team that gave QB Eli Manning the most savage beating of his life. Special teams are, as always, a winning edge.
Over on Pats Pulpit, Greg Knopping highlights the play of LB Brandon Spikes, and how he went from the ground to the stratosphere in just two plays.
Spikes was crushed by Ravens fullback Vonta Leach, resulting in a big gain for RB Ray Rice. Spikes dropped into coverage on the next play, and QB Joe Flacco didn't see him underneath the receiver. Spikes got what should have been an enormous interception that could have sealed the game in the fourth quarter.
No one was talking about how elite Flacco was after that throw (or another one from the second quarter, as Bill Barnwell points out in a phenomenal piece about both games), but Patriots QB Tom Brady gave it right back on the next play, in what could be the dumbest decision he's made in his career.
Neither quarterback played well, and anyone saying Flacco was anything more than hit-and-miss is in denial. Sure, Lee Evans should have held onto that ball as if his life hung in the balance, but missed tackles, not great passing, got them in position for the game-tying field goal. What about the two throws Flacco made way late to a wide open Torrey Smith in the first half? Obviously, there's the interception, but what about his last pass of the game, the one he tried to cram in a window smaller than the space between his eyebrows that should have been intercepted?
Neither the Patriots nor the Ravens took advantage of opportunities to win the game. They both chose to let the other team lose it. And the Ravens did.
It's certainly fair to hold K Billy Cundiff responsible. An overlooked aspect of the Patriots run to the Super Bowl is K Stephen Gostkowski. He's 4-for-4 on field goals this post-season, and while his longest is 35 yards, Cundiff would probably kill to be perfect from that range today.
Danny Woodhead had a critical fumble against Baltimore, and rest assured, the Giants will be going for the ball the same way they did against Williams. As it is with any big game, possessions will most likely determine the outcome. Both teams were in the top 10 in takeaways in the 2011 regular season, and when you have a quarterback who can convert those extra possessions into points, it's not a surprise when you make it to the Super Bowl.
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Been 4 seasons first of all. Joe has definitely asserted himself as one of the more quality QB’s in this league. You don’t hear many (in any) Ravens fans saying he is a top 5 QB. Only person I have ever heard call him “elite” is John Clayton, and what the hell does a guy from Tales from The Crypt know?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Sorry, I had already had another mediocre season in the books. I guess I'm over the cap in regards to dissing Flacco.
by Anthony Defeo on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Cool.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Hate to say it, but late this season he's looked like he's finally got it, so we will see.
He’s up for a payday, so his timing is good, we shall really see once he gets “paid”.
Only time will tell if being direspected or finally getting his due, which will have more affect.
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but missed tackles, not great passing, got them in position for the game-tying field goal.
Not our problem. Tell them to make the tackles then. You act like that isn’t part of the game. I am sure you are mostly referring to Torrey’s TD regarding missed tackles. That was a great play by Torrey (who is a freak athlete) so he makes people miss like that.
What about the two throws Flacco made way late to a wide open Torrey Smith in the first half?
Guess you missed Vince Wilfork destroying his double team and in the face of Flacco, where it forced him to not be able to set his feet whatsoever and throw with all arm. Also, you most likely blocked out the fact the Torrey stopped running at one point (as did many times in the season on deep bombs). So a 60 yard bomb with your body square while a 335 lb beast is rocking you.
And that interception was a great, great play by Spikes. Even Patriots fans have told us that he never makes plays like that (one handed grab).
Joe played great. If I came on here and said he would be throwing for 300+ and 2 scores and outplaying Brady, most would have just laughed.
I understand that the majority of Steeler fans will never think Joe is a quality QB, and I am fine with that, that hate for Baltimore probably creates that idea for most of you. No problem.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I've actually liked Flacco as a QB these past few years...
…but let me ask you: Would you prefer the Flacco of this year, where one game he’s very good (if not elite), then other games, he’s “Colt McCoy” like in his hesitancy, and the quality of his game,
Or would you rather he consistently improve, game over game, year over year; maybe not reaching “elite” status for another year or so, but has a more consistent body of work?
The man has the tools (certainly has the arm) and is certainly more in the mold of the type of QB Steeler fans like (big, takes a hit, hard to take down), but between his inconsistency (whether he’s a victim of poor play calling and/or short leash, or the issue is inside his head), his comments about lack of recognition, respect to the press, and that god-awful brostache, as well as being a Raven, yea he’s not getting a lot of respect from Steeler fans.
I would caution them however, not to take this lack of respect too far; next year will be the telling year for Flacco, in terms of his quality of “game” against Pittsburgh, and I for one, would not necessarily bet against him.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
but let me ask you: Would you prefer the Flacco of this year, where one game he’s very good (if not elite), then other games, he’s "Colt McCoy" like in his hesitancy, and the quality of his game,
He had his piss poor games, but he definitely came on strong towards the end (a bunch of 90+ QB ratings in the final weeks).
Many also don’t consider what he was working with as far as an offense. The O-Line was banged up and had 2 castoffs starting at point point with a 36 year old Center who can’t even hold a block against a LB. We had 3 rookie WR’s seeing time, and 2 second year TE’s who were basically rookies being as they combined for 12 whole catches the previous season.
I would like to see Joe with a new OC, one that plays to his strengths and not run one of the worst offensive systems in the league. Greg Cossell (one of the most brilliant football analysts out there) said this about Cam’s scheme.
Never seen a group of WR so unable to beat man coverage" “Their O is so incredibly predictable.” “Watching their tape is like watching the 1960’s. 1 WR to each side, isolation routes. No bunch sets, rub routes”
So is that Joe’s fault?
Or would you rather he consistently improve, game over game, year over year; maybe not reaching "elite" status for another year or so, but has a more consistent body of work?
In my opinion, I think he has done that. Sorry if it disagrees with yours, but Joe has taken major steps this year from my point of view. This elite shit is thrown around way too much. Tired of hearing the word to be honest. Elite QB’s can still be a major reason their teams lose (Rodgers and Brees in the playoffs)
or the issue is inside his head), his comments about lack of recognition, respect to the press, and that god-awful brostache, as well as being a Raven, yea he’s not getting a lot of respect from Steeler fans.
Like I said above, I expect that. Would have I liked to see Joe tone it down a bit in the media those last few weeks? Sure, but I do agree with him that it is ludicrous and shit sports coverage that Tebow was given every bit of credit in the world for what was going on as if he was the 2nd coming of Jesus (which he very might be) and Joe was being considered a bust in some people’s minds.
I would caution them however, not to take this lack of respect too far; next year will be the telling year for Flacco, in terms of his quality of "game" against Pittsburgh, and I for one, would not necessarily bet against him.
Agreed. Some people (such as many fans here) want to point to his performances against JAX, Seattle, NYJ and I want to point to his performances against you guys (twice) Houston, Arizona and of course last Sunday.
Joe is my QB, and will be for a long time.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Elite QB’s can still be a major reason their teams lose (Rodgers and Brees in the playoffs)
I think that’s an interesting point. The fact Rodgers played poorly and the Packers lost shows both why he’s the most valuable player in the league, and why having your entire offense based around your best player is a mistake.
Rodgers was off. The Giants got to him too many times. Dare I say this, but Eli beat him because Eli is a better all around quarterback.
I have never at any level seen a quarterback get the tar knocked out of him the way Eli did against San Francisco. He stayed composed, his eyes stayed down the field and he made throws. Rodgers collapsed under less pressure from the Giants. The Giants beat a great defensive team because their quarterback was mentally strong, the Packers got thrashed by a lesser defensive team than the 49ers because their quarterback couldn’t keep it together.
I should be careful, psycho, drunken Packers fans would assault me for saying that.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
People around here hate to give Eli props, but when I watch him he shows me all the great traits that Ben has, but balanced with more of a pocket presence and a far better deep ball IMHO. He’s also got the best 3 starting wideouts in the game as well
Pocket presence
requires a pocket.
One step to the left and keeping eyes down field < sluffing of a DL at the same time.
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Manning got hit TWENTY times on Sunday. He did not have any more of a pocket than Ben ever had.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
And looked more flustered than in any game I saw this season
As well as locking onto deep throws when he should’ve looked short or to scramble, which should have cost him 2 picks.
If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.
mid 2nd quarter 2nd Cleveland game.
If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.
The fact Rodgers played poorly and the Packers lost shows both why he’s the most valuable player in the league, and why having your entire offense based around your best player is a mistake.
Exactly right. Teams like the Saints live and die by Brees. If he doesn’t put up the numbers needed, they are screwed. That is what I like about my Ravens. If we need Joe to pass for 375 and 4 TD’s to win, that means most likely that my defense and or running game is playing like total shit, AND I DON’T LIKE THAT!
Not saying Joe can’t do that, he can if needed, but I would much rather see my defense and Ray Rice dominate because frankly……that is just awesome football.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Unfortunately in todays NFL I would rather have a strong offensive team than defense
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
Not hard to have both. I would like to think that both Pittsburgh and Baltimore have strong offenses and strong defenses. We just execute it in a different way.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
And suffer the fate of the Packers...
…the Texans, and the Saints? No thanks. As MaLoR says above, I’d rather have balance.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
The Texans lost because of their defense?
by Neal Coolong on Jan 25, 2012 7:06 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, thinking one thing, typing another...
…the Texans, and the Saints? No thanks. As MaLoR says above, I’d rather have balance.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
I am still unsure of why people hate when teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh win with defense. I would much rather win 13-10 than 38-35. I don’t like seeing teams score on my defense, it means you are getting dominated.
People think it is a crime if you win with your QB going 13/25 with 130 yards.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I agree with you, except for...
People think it is a crime if you win with your QB going 13/25 with 130 yards.
Yes, a “win is a win”, but if your team is paying starting QB money to a QB who can only manage 130 yards a game, you’re not getting your monies worth.
I realize your statement indicates either (1) sarcasm, or (2) a desire to return to Trent Dilfer; I like defensive games, like the SF/Giants game; I don’t mind however, scores in the high 20’s. Its when it becomes 42-38 with both QBs passing for 400+ yards, that the game becomes more like a video game.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Well of course if your QB is putting up those stats every game, it should cause worry. But Flacco for example this season played 12 of his 16 games against top 10 ranked defenses and won 10 of them, and some of those games he had those stats and people think it is a crime if you don’t have 320 and 3 TD’s.
Just saying that it is a team sport, and defense and running game can be just as, if not more effective in certain games than the passing game….especially when you are good at those two phases.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I understand now...
…and agree.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Jan 25, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
And couldn't you also say this:
because their quarterback couldn’t keep it together
about Brady as well; isn’t the “book” on him to get to him early, get him rattled and unsettled in the pocket, and you can disrupt his game?
Isn’t that what the Giants did in 2007, against an undefeated juggernaut? Interesting that a team’s greatest strength (an elite QB) could also be its achillies heel.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
no QB likes having pressure in his face
its that simple
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
No, but some handle it better than others...
…just look at Eli against the Niners; he knew the pain was coming, but he stayed in there, and waited until the right time to throw. He got sacked 6 times, but hit over 15 times more.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Jan 24, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Wel they did change the rules to protect Brady
that should tell you all you need to know about his mental toughness
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think after Eli’s 4th or 5th sack, I thought he was unconscious.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
If Peyton ever took 20 hits in a game, he would be sitting next to Stephen Hawking in his scooter.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Jan 25, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not the most offensive thing I've ever heard about Stephen Hawking
but good try
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 25, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Flacco needs
Recievers. A more innovative route tree for his receivers and he has what Ben does not have, an o line.
Impose your will.
He needs receivers? He has Boldin, who used to be good, Evans, who used to be good, has had Houshmanzadeh, who used to be good. He’s had Heap, Clayton, and Mason, and let’s not forget his security blanket.
It could be Flacco, or it could be Cameron, but either way, lots of quarterbacks have done more with less.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Past tense
Has boldin who used to be good..Lyon are agreeing withi me I assume? Flacco will never be a top tier qb, he will be better than most.
And remember lots of qb’ s have done less with more.
Impose your will.
I think the point I’m making is that he HAS and has had good receivers, they just become bad when they have to play with Flacco (or play for Cam, who knows)
Lyon are agreeing withi me I assume?
What?
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Yeh that somehow got screwed up...damn auto fill.
It is interesting to look at that point though that flac co makes receivers worse. It is an excellent thought and I may need to look at that a bit closer. But boldin was made playing opposite of Larry.
Impose your will.
I thought you were giving me a Back to the Future reference that I wasn’t getting. Like I said, I don’t know who is to blame, and you’re correct about Boldin having Fitz. But whatever the reason is, he’s had some damn good receivers that come to Baltimore and do nothing at all.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
In fairness to Flacco,
I think you should know that in a display of good sense he went home and shaved it off. He, and the world, are better for it…
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 24, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Flacco
Everything that I have heard on the national media was about how nobody can fault Flacco for his play in big games after Sunay. Sure, Neal’s not giving him any credit. But, around the nation, I think Flacco’s play this past will bring raised expectations. Flacco sure seems to think so.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 24, 2012 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Flacco’s play this past will bring raised expectations. Flacco sure seems to think so.
Isn’t what you want in a winning QB? To be confident that he can hang with the best of the best? (which he clearly did 2 days ago.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Yes you want him to be confident in himself
But, you want him to display that on the field, not say it to the press.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, if he just sticks to displaying in to the media...
…and not on the field next year, I’ll be happy.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Jan 24, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
I understand that the majority of Steeler fans will never think Joe is a quality QB, and I am fine with that, that hate for Baltimore probably creates that idea for most of you. No problem.
Really? It seems you’re not fine with that, and that it is a problem.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Um actually MOST of Baltimore does not think Joe is a quality QB....
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Flacco
I don’t think he will be top 5 but he played like he belongs. I would hang the horns of that loss on other foreheads.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Guess you missed Vince Wilfork destroying his double team and in the face of Flacco, where it forced him to not be able to set his feet whatsoever and throw with all arm.
No, I saw it. I also saw the second and a half it took for Flacco to recognize Smith was even-then-leavin with the cornerback. If he sees that right away, he steps and throws, thus avoiding Wilfork all together.
Also, you most likely blocked out the fact the Torrey stopped running at one point (as did many times in the season on deep bombs). So a 60 yard bomb with your body square while a 335 lb beast is rocking you.
He doesn’t need to hit him in the end zone for Smith to score. When he’s that open, you HAVE to get him the ball. He waited too long to release it.
You of all people know my feelings on Torrey Smith’s mechanics. I’m guessing Smith thought if the ball isn’t coming by now and I’m this wide open, it ain’t coming. I’m only speaking of Flacco’s lack of recognition that his best deep threat completely fried his defender. You can’t tell me that doesn’t frustrate you.
And that interception was a great, great play by Spikes. Even Patriots fans have told us that he never makes plays like that (one handed grab).
Dickson ran to the soft spot of the Patriots 2-deep zone, Spikes was trailing him, providing underneath coverage. Dickson runs a good route, but Flacco’s throw is underneath, right to Spikes. Regardless of how he caught the ball, it was a bad pass. He leads him two more yards, Dickson is way out of position, and Dickson can probably turn and run for another five or six yards, seeing how far off the safeties are.
Joe played great.
Joe played well enough to win against an overmatched secondary. That’s not great. I never said he sucked. I’m saying Baltimore could have won that game by two scores if he was great. He wasn’t.
If I came on here and said he would be throwing for 300+ and 2 scores and outplaying Brady, most would have just laughed.
True. But those are two very different things. Throwing for 300+ and two scores isn’t tough against New England, and demonstrated by several quarterbacks over the year. Outplaying Brady, though, yes, that’s quite a surprise. I also said Brady didn’t play well (obvious statement of the year). Both could have put each other away well before Cundiff was rushed onto the field, but both failed to do it.
Both could have put each other away well before Cundiff was rushed onto the field, but both failed to do it.
Seems to me that Evans failed to do it.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
UM actually your coach Hairball, lost that game for you by not calling a time out when
he knew Billy was RUSHED onto the field with only 10 seconds left on the play clock!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure how much this plays into the explination behind that
After a nine-yard reception on first down, Anquan Boldin fumbled the ball out of bounds ahead of the first-down marker. The referees correctly spotted the ball at the New England 10-yard line which made it second-and-1, but the JumboTron at Gillette Stadium indicated otherwise.
The board showed it was second down after the failed pass attempt to Lee Evans in the end zone, but it was actually third down.
The Ravens then threw to Dennis Pitta and it appeared they had one more shot at the end zone because, according to Suggs, the marker indicated they had one more play before needing to kick.
The discrepancy between the boards and the officials created confusion.
Cundiff, who takes full responsibility for his miss, confirmed to Deadspin, via FoxSports.com, that the scoreboard showed the wrong down. He said he coordinates his pre-kick routine to the scoreboard and thought it was only third down when it was actually fourth.
According to FoxSports.com, a Ravens spokesman said that after watching film, team officials confirmed the scoreboard error.
Not using that as an excuse, but could have played a part. Either way, that whole situation just sucked.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Hmmm...
I wasn’t aware of that, but yeah, I’d say that definitely played a factor. Perhaps I’ll back off a little from my stance of “not calling the timeout didn’t matter.”
Then again, Cundiff has played in the league long enough, he should know to call a timeout if things just weren’t right. He thought he could hit it and he didn’t. Whaddya do?
I just don’t believe in any one play or player costing a team a game. Either way, that kick would have sent the game into overtime, and obviously no one knows what can happen there.
You could have lost the coin toss, kicked off, and on the first play from scrimmage, called a zero-deep coverage reading run, the play-action could have frozen the backside safety, and the short post could have been caught and taken all the way to….ugh. You know the rest.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t aware of that, but yeah, I’d say that definitely played a factor. Perhaps I’ll back off a little from my stance of "not calling the timeout didn’t matter."
Then again, Cundiff has played in the league long enough, he should know to call a timeout if things just weren’t right. He thought he could hit it and he didn’t. Whaddya do?
Agreed.
I just don’t believe in any one play or player costing a team a game
Glad the Ravens players don’t either, Ray and Suggs were two of the first people to go to Cundiff and tell him its alright. Had that happen with say…….the Jets, there might have been a few deaths in that locker room with the way that shit hole organization is ran.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Oh, no sh1t! Just a horribly run franchise. When you have a veteran like LaDainian Tomlinson running to the media the second the game ended harder than he’d run all year, you know you lack internal leadership.
It sucks for you he missed the kick the same way it sucks Ike Taylor had the worst game of his career in the playoffs, but it’s still 53 guys for 60 minutes.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I liked it when the 4th string QB spoke out about how dysfunctional that locker room was.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Yeah, and you know why he felt he was allowed to do that?
Because their coach never shuts the eff up. It’s about culture and discipline. The Jets have a negative, arrogant culture, and they’re undisciplined.
Ryan created the monster that’s now putting his job in jeopardy.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Ehhh...
He’s still paid to kick the ball through the uprights.
You’re out of your mind if you think in a game as poorly played down the stretch as that one for both teams, the lack of a timeout being called was the reason it was lost or won.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
If a time out had been called the kicker could have ghee I don't know maybe
SET UP PROPERLY before he kicked the dayum ball!!! I mean come on your kicker is about to send your team to the SB and u don’t wanna make sure he is SET to go???
here’s the link:
and yes Neal I’m clearly out of my mind….
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
sorry not send u to the the SB but into OT to potentially get to the SB
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Joe played well enough to win
I can live with that, much like he has his entire career.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Division title and a whole bunch of regular season and playoff games. About the same thing that QB’s such as Manning, Brees, etc did in their first 4 years.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Ok, we’ll talk when Flacco reaches the level those guys have reached.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds good.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Actually Brees didn't do that his first four years
He only made the playoffs once in his time in San Diego. Hence the drafting of Rivers and letting him go once his shoulder exploded against the Broncos
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"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Brees is a phenomenal quarterback, but above that, he was the perfect quarterback for Sean Payton’s offense. I doubt either has the same level of success without the other one.
In fact, I’m not even sure there’s a better tandem of any player and coach in the league. He’s the perfect West Coast quarterback. Great decision-maker, dead-on-balls accurate and strong-armed. Because of that, Payton is able to expand that offensive philosophy to include a lot more vertical routes. He goes through his progression better than anyone except maybe Peyton, and he rarely ever throws a poor ball.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
To PaVa
I would caution them however, not to take this lack of respect too far; next year will be the telling year for Flacco, in terms of his quality of "game" against Pittsburgh, and I for one, would not necessarily bet against him.
Me simply pointing out he missed several opportunities to put the game on ice before Evans dropped a touchdown isn’t disrespecting him. If the fact he led an offense to three points, three punts and two turnovers in the combined fourth quarters of two playoff games is considered disrespect, then fine.
To make things even, I’ll point out my writing about how poorly Roethlisberger played. Against Denver, his numbers weren’t terrible either, and he made big plays when he had to like Flacco. But he also left a lot on the field. In fact, the throw to Wallace that was eventually (and rightly) overturned was the same as Flacco’s. They both missed their deep receiver burning a defensive back, and they both failed to get him the ball in a timely manner.
The absence of bad is not the presence of good. I would also like to point out Evans getting that pass knocked away was as close to a touchdown as Flacco’s next throw was to an interception. There’s a really fine line between poor and great, but the great ones constantly stay on the right side of that line.
The absence of bad is not the presence of good
I like that.
There’s a really fine line between poor and great, but the great ones constantly stay on the right side of that line.
And I will say that Flacco is neither poor or great, however he is damn good in my opinion.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
And I will say that Flacco is neither poor or great, however he is damn good in my opinion.
This gets us back to where we usually are in these conversations. You’re annoyed no one thinks he’s any good, I’m annoyed because people think he’s great.
Bruce on BB’s post-game article talking about how Flacco doesn’t shoulder the burden of the loss because of how great he played was partial motivation for that segue in my article. I don’t see anything suggesting he cannot win a Super Bowl, I don’t think he will ever be considered a great QB. I think the Ravens need sit down and ask themselves bluntly and directly where they want their offense to be.
It’s confused. It’s muddled. It lacks clear direction. They want to be everything – power running straight through to vertical passing – and they simply don’t have the tools to do that. Hell, no one does. I can’t understand for the life of me how or why Ricky Williams didn’t get the ball more than he did (throwing on 3rd-and-1 THREE TIMES in the fourth quarter and ending the game with a timeout in your pocket…). We’ve all known Cameron won’t be retained (technically, not fired, just not given a new contract). The question now will be around the value of Rice and Flacco. Really won’t sit well with your QB if he’s not given an extension, and won’t sit well with Rice if he’s franchised, especially while Flacco gets an extension.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
You speak like a Ravens fan there. Everything you said I agree with.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
The difference is, though,
I don’t blame your coordinator. He’s running the offense the way Harbaugh asked him to run it. If he isn’t, that’s even more criticism on Harbaugh. Why it is people get the assumption the coordinator is somehow off the watchful eye of the head coach is beyond me.
Far more often than not, when a coordinator is fired, it’s not because he sucks, it’s simply because the coach doesn’t feel the personnel they have fit with the philosophy of his coordinator.
If you had a band and you wanted to play rock music, but you know a really good jazz drummer. You bring the jazz drummer in, and it doesn’t fit with what you’re playing, so you tell the jazz drummer he’s out. That doesn’t mean the drummer sucks.
I’ll bet you a bottle of Scotch, Malor, you’re next offensive coordinator is Brad Childress. You’re gonna wrestle him away from Cleveland, mostly because you have talent and the Browns don’t. His offense seems, to me, a much better fit for what you have. He’s used to the fullback, and frankly, I don’t think Flacco throws accurate enough deep passes to continue with Cameron’s system.
When you moved the ball against New England, it was Flacco’s eight-yard pass the receiver took for a few more yards. Kind of a Mike Martz sort of offense, but without all the 9 routes. Three steps, one look and throw.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll bet you a bottle of Scotch, Malor, you’re next offensive coordinator is Brad Childress. You’re gonna wrestle him away from Cleveland, mostly because you have talent and the Browns don’t. His offense seems, to me, a much better fit for what you have. He’s used to the fullback, and frankly, I don’t think Flacco throws accurate enough deep passes to continue with Cameron’s system.
Would not mind that at all. I would love a west coast offense because it gets the ball out quick and we have the players who can do that. Besides Torrey, you are right in the fact that we do not have the personnel for a vertical attack. We have savvy route runners like Boldin and Pitta with our explosive guy in Torrey.
Many people around Baltimore though think Hue Jackson will get the job. He was our QB coach in 2008 (Joe’s rookie year) so the familiarity with this team might play into that. Either way, I am excited to see any new face because frankly, Cameron really hit the shits this year.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Besides Torrey, you are right in the fact that we do not have the personnel for a vertical attack. We have savvy route runners like Boldin and Pitta with our explosive guy in Torrey.
I don’t feel it’s a coincidence the Steelers offense was at its best when Wallace had far less yards but a higher yards-per-reception total. Choose your moments. Use everyone, but force it to no one.
Everyone blew up what Ed Reed said about Flacco as if it was a personal shot to him. Read it again, he’s calling the coaches out. He’s suggesting there was a game-plan in place to get the ball to certain receivers. The quarterback doesn’t come up with the game plan.
Two or three catches a game for 70 yards is a pretty dominating performance, people just don’t look at it because it’s not as flashy as eight catches for 100 yards. It’s all about big plays, but you can’t force big plays. They’re too risky.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
No one here
gave BA the grace of that 1st paragraph…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
"the diff is though.... I dont blame your OC
by OR69faithfull on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I was never against BA. I’m also not in favor of the short-sighted “return to a purely power running game” philosophy the Steelers now have.
In a game where minute details determine the success and failure of a play, which, in turn, leads to winning and losing a game, and ultimately ending your season or continuing it, it’s impossible to have such a simple, narrow-minded vision. It’s not that the Steelers threw the ball too much, or didn’t run it enough, it’s they didn’t succeed play-to-play as often as I feel they were capable of succeeding.
I want an offensive coordinator who can teach the game in a way the talent on this team raises to a higher level. I don’t care if that’s running the ball or throwing it. Plain and simple, they have to do both successfully. The Packers lost because they put everything on Aaron Rodgers, and the one time they ask Ryan Grant to carry the team, he fumbles the damn ball. The Saints pin everything on their quarterback, and when a nasty defense toyed with him all game, they got turnovers, and were in a position to win.
However, in both of those examples, the losing team’s defense gave up 30+ points. You need everything to be in a position to succeed. Whomever our next offensive coordinator is, I hope he can bring that, instead of simply his willingness to continue to run the ball as if it’s some kind of miracle cure.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I agree.... you have to have the ability to do both
we were not particularly good at running the ball… lots of reasons, but mostly no go to guy on third and short..
When I think back about the passing “scheme” of our offense, (not necessarily every play call on any given down) I thought our scheme accented our players talents… both in the passing and running game… There were alot of variables tossed in the mix this year due to injury… seems to me we lost 2 games this year due to wrong formation….both them on the Defensive side of the ball….yet…not a word mentioned….
Im quite interested to see whom they have their eyes on for OC… again, kind of an oddity, if you had your guy choosen from within, to not announce it…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 24, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
Lebeau walks on water. Arians hasn’t earned that level of respect, obviously, but I don’t feel he deserved the constant criticism and borderline violent reaction even mentioning his name draws.
We moved the ball just fine. We just didn’t score. Obviously, that’s a bit more important, but it shows the whole thing isn’t broken. I think we need to get back to basics. Too many execution-based mistakes. I would say it’s time to find a new offensive coordinator because I don’t feel Arians was getting the most out of his players anymore, but that’s only half his fault. The offense, Ben in particular, needs to up its game next season. I look at 12-4 as a miracle based on defensive football (that somehow managed to be the best scoring defense in the league with nine turnover-less games), while the offense was impressive with highlight plays, proved to be far more sizzle than steak.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Number 1 defense in the league
It’s really hard to argue that the defense didn’t hold up it’s end with those numbers. Sure, the defense blew it a couple times. How many times did the offense blow it?
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
How many of those games needed to be close?
The defense was phenomenal down the stretch, and the offense died. 14-10, 13-9, those kinds of games, credit the defense, but a great offense can get one more touchdown, or even just one more field goal or two, to allow the defense some breathing room. There’s no reason the defense should have had to be on the field with the game on the line against Cleveland (twice) or Kansas City in the fourth quarter.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 25, 2012 7:15 AM EST up reply actions
Believe me, I'm not ready to annoint Flacco as "great" just yet either...
…and I wasn’t taking issue with your specific comments Neal; I was just posing a question to Mr. MaLoR who, while admirable in his dogged defense of Flacco, rightly points out that Flacco was successful against the Steelers; to which I agreed in that we shouldn’t get too confident that we have this guy pegged as an “just good” QB.
Sorry if my tone or words conveyed otherwise.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Well, we can (and have and will) be beaten by “good” quarterbacks. Compared to 15 years ago, there are maybe three “bad” quarterbacks in the league; Concussed Colt, Blaine Gabbert-Marinovich, Tebow and Christian Ponder. Gabbert has nowhere to go but up, Tebow wins games with his feet, Ponder got his ass kicked from the Metrodome to Canada on a horrible team and McCoy…well, he sucks. Just a terrible…AWFUL quarterback. Doesn’t have anything of value. Ugh…
Anyway, yeah, quarterbacks are a lot better, rules favor them, and with teams having stacks upon stacks of physically dominating receivers, it’s really hard not to catch a hot streak and beat a good defensive team here and there. Except Cleveland. The only thing worst than McCoy is the collective talent of their receiving corps.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
You have a bit of a fire burning in you...
…when you get into discourse with Mr. MaLoR about Flacco; I guess I got too close to the flames, and got myself scorched.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Got a lot of fire burning in me. Irish catholic, youngest of four. I don’t know what I’m fighting for, but I’ll fight you for it anyway.
You’re fine, Malor and I enjoy the dialogue, and at the end of the day, we see the same picture, mine just has a gold tint and his has a purple tint. Understandable.
I was just trying to stir up some conversation, I wasn’t calling you out or anything. I wanted to reference your specific comments cuz I liked where it was going.
I responded to you on the draft post from a day or two ago too. Working on the offensive one…something tells me readership here really expects the offensive line to appear early and often in that article…
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well...if ESPN, SI, NFL.com...
…and the rest of the media have commented on it over the past couple of years (remember Ben’s quote after 2005 Super Bowl?), yea, I guess its weighing on the minds of a few BTSC poasters – lol !!
I’m wondering though, if injuries and/or lack of consistent line configuration makes up X % of “the problem”, and personnel make up Y % of “the problem”, what percentage of the “problem” does play selection (i.e. calling for plays the line at the time is not best suited for) make up? We pass with Kemo on the line, when his strong suit is run blocking, etc?
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Cundiff
The missed kick against the Pats could have a impact on the 2012 season, helping the Steelers. Cundiff’s bad kick reminded me of two other veteran kickers who missed clutch kicks in the playoffs, Gary Anderson and Mike Vanderjagt. After missing very manageable kicks, both players struggled the following season. We know about the close games between the Steelers and Ravens, but Baltimore has counted on Cundiff to provide the winning margin in other games as well.
I think I yelled something to the effect of “It’s Vanderjagt all over again!” when I saw it hook.
On a guilty level, I remember a Ravens fan writing on here before the season started how the Ravens have the edge at kicker, and that Suisham will cost Pittsburgh a game at some point this season. I believed him, too!
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Vanderjagt's kick had a chance compared to that
it almost ended up in the corner seats
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"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno about you, but I went absolutely ballistic the second the ball left Vanderjagt’s foot. It was WAY off.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying Vanderjagt's kick was even close to being good
but at least he almost made the net.
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"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
lol
I’m sure he’d be happy to read our conversation on the topic.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
46 yard attempt
While Vandarjagt’s attempt was 14 yards longer than Cundiff’s, it was surprising he missed the kick. Vandarjagt was kicking at home in perfect conditions, and was the NFL’s leading kicker in career percentage back then. I had a very bad feeling the Colts would not only tie the game, but use that momentum to win in overtime.
by SteelStealth on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hell Yeah
I had a very bad feeling the Colts would not only tie the game, but use that momentum to win in overtime.
I was at work – everybody stopped service, the cooks and wait staff in front of the TV – not a man breathing – then the shank, the horribly blessed and beautiful shank – the place ERUPTED – on the walk home Pittsburgh was fanatic – cars beeping – people in the streets – damn lucky to have experienced that, me – that was a great playoff run
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"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
Easily the most memorable football game I've ever seen
If not for my massive ADD, I’d write a book on the overarching impact of that game. It wasn’t the Immaculate Reception, but the Steelers won a Super Bowl off the momentum caused by The Tackle. Jerome Bettis was taken from goat of historic proportions to hometown hero. Dungy and Manning didn’t get their championship (until the following season) because Manning twice elected to throw at rookie CB Bryant McFadden in short-yardage situations instead of handing off to his 1,500 yard running back. Vanderjagt was the best kicker in the history of the game, and also had called out Manning’s offense the previous year, but from that kick forward, he only made like 50 percent of his kicks. The only fan to ever speak with one voice for all of SteelerNation, when he said “I’m having a heart attack” after the most improbable fumble in franchise history.
Bettis will probably get in the Hall of Fame on the next ballot, maybe the one after that. He’s Earnest Byner if the Steelers lose that game. Just an amazing six minutes of football.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 25, 2012 7:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ADD
ADD is just nature’s way of saying… … where was I?
anyone trying to contact me via my yahoo account should be aware it has been hacked
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 25, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
argh....
between … and … should have been “turns heads… oh shiny”
anyone trying to contact me via my yahoo account should be aware it has been hacked
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 25, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Heard
I pledge allegiance to the Terrible Towel and the only team in America, and to the franchise for which it stands, one nation under Rooney, indivisible, with the ability to crush you all.
"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
How so?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
well.... your mindfull of your players talents.... have hope for the future...
and prefer discussing those things with steeler fans…. you’d be a good add to steeler nation…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I discuss it with Steeler fans because it is more fun to tell your fan base why they are wrong about their perception of Joe rather than agreeing with Ravens who share the same feelings or dealing with the ones who think Troy Smith or Tyrod Taylor were/are better options.
Controversy is the best ingredient for discussion.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Where Steelers fans are in their perception of Flacco is the same point, but on the opposite side of the spectrum, as Ravens fans.
QB Joe Flacco cannot and should not be targeted for anything to do with this loss
A Ravens fan sees Joe Flacco putting up better numbers than Tom Brady, and assumes he did everything he needed to do to win that game through four quarters. Cundiff missed the kick, Evans didn’t hang onto the ball, it’s on them, not Flacco.
A Steelers fan see Joe Flacco throwing a fourth quarter interception, and an incomplete pass on fourth down in the fourth quarter, along with three points in the fourth quarters of two playoff games.
In reality, all of that is true. I can’t speak for SteelerNation, but I try to execute my role as an opinion gatekeeper here in our small nook of the world by basing opinion off objective fact. That’s really the only way you can write sports, and it’s true, no stat reveals everything.
However, he’s calling you a Steelers fan out of respect, and an indication he feels you are not at all like the Ravens fans we’re used to seeing on this site.
I have no stats to back that up, but I agree with him.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
he’s calling you a Steelers fan out of respect
That’s ain’t respectful in my eyes…
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
and having a bit of a "man crush" doesn't hurt either, right?
lol!
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by PaVaSteeler on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
my last comment on this blog before yesterday was about 6 weeks ago, so not sure what you are getting at.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
well.... ive seen alot of
Ravens fans stop by…. mostly not the gentlemanly type… Ive seen you here previously being pretty firm in opinion and borderline abrassive… Im sure only in the moment of competition…. Ill let it go at that…. I find your comments today insightful and respectful…. full of hope for the future… perhaaps in the past, not so much
by OR69faithfull on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Ive seen you here previously being pretty firm in opinion and borderline abrassive… Im sure only in the moment of competition…. Ill let it go at that…. I find your comments today insightful and respectful
Probably cuz he and I aren’t throwing down over anything.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
well...... I did hit him pretty hard early on
suggesting his lips were on his colon with all the **** he talks here….. lol
by OR69faithfull on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
This is the first time I saw your name on either blog in several weeks.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Too busy making that paper!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
What paper?
The Human Anatomical Study of How Joe Flacco’s Arms Hang Past His Knees?
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
On the brightside of things
Maybe that hobo will shave that monstrosity residing on his face.
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Which was worse?
Ben’s Kentucky Waterfall haircut?
Or Flacco’s Chu?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Worse?
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by John Stephens on Jan 24, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That is pretty rancid.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Ron Jeremy?
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by TVsCHACHI on Jan 24, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
p.s.
I will be calling Joe Flacco a “hobo” again at some point very soon. Classic…
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
That’s fine, just don’t call him “average”
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Average Joe Cool Flacco.....it is then...I like Joe too bad most Ravens fans do not!!!
hey Mr MaLoR did u notice that Billy Cundiff’s jersey number is 7…..how appropriate that #7 knock you all out of yet another shot at the SB….LOLOL!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I like Joe too bad most Ravens fans do not!!!
I could care less what Billy Joe from Dundalk or Cleetus from Sykesville thinks about Joe. Those are the same people who give Baltimore a bad rap due to wearing purple camo pants on game day. I’ve forgotten more about football than those fools will ever know.
As for #7, not so sure what jab you are trying to make? Is this supposed to be some legitimate attempt at connecting Ben and Cundiff together?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
You can't feign being obtuse now MaLoR...
…after the laser-like posts you’ve been trading with Neal.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
let him try...we know the real deal:)
yep that darn #7 keeps u yet again from going to the SB……
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. And Jesus kept you from going to yours….
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
see u did understand...LOL!!!!
yep we got teblowed and now u can have a seat on the couch with the rest of us who’s teams will not be playing in the SB this year….it’s very comfy here with Beer, Hot Wings, and NO stress…..enjoy!!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Every time I read one of your comments, it just says “……………”
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
And then
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
no it's LOL!!!
NOT LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Average Joe Cool Flacco…..it is then…I like Joe too bad most Ravens fans do not!!!
hey Mr MaLoR did u notice that Billy Cundiff’s jersey number is 7…..how appropriate that #7 knock you all out of yet another shot at the SB….LOLOL!!!
I can resist everything but temptation…..
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM EST
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
So were the police made aware of your unhealthy obsession with Joe Flacco? I thought you disappeared because they found out about it and took precautions.
I’ve been trying to learn more about Joe as a person though, what he likes to do in his free time, what his favorite dish is, if he prefers small dogs or large ones, how he feels about long walks in the park, etc.
At the risk of making you extremely jealous, I’ll still let you know how it goes.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
no it's like !!! or !!!!
NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
it's like this ….
NOT like this ……………
SEE….LOL….!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
I could care less what Billy Joe from Dundalk or Cleetus from Sykesville thinks about Joe.
Are they related to Evan from Baltimore Beatdown?
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Most likely.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Rrelated? Maybe but ....
Likely only the same way that different strains of a toxic bacteria are related to each other.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 24, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’d never give him that much praise.
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by John Stephens on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I saw him on tv earlier, he shaved it off.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
by FrankWyt on Jan 24, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yea it was for some charity I think....can't recall the name right now!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
By “charity” you mean “relationship” with his “tight end” right? They looked so cute together
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Ha Ha Ha!!!! No that is not what I meant....
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
The gods have delivered.
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by John Stephens on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
no that's not the name of the charity....
it’s named something to do with a mustache….people here were actually drawing them on their faces with purple lipstick as a way to show support for the team….NOT making this up!!!
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Jan 24, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully with permanent ink...
…and how could you tell on the female Ravens fans, that the staches were drawn on?
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To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Most of the older women around here don’t have trouble growing them in the first place.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Hey, Hulk Hogan has a Chu as well.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Seems more appropriate on a wrestler than a quarterback
And Roethlisberger’s Missouri Compromise is wrong in any and all professions.
I hate quarterbacks.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
In defense of Flacco
Joe never tried saying the Fu looked good. He was trying to do it as a team building thing (though typical for Flacco, his leadership produced few followers). Also, he was doing it to take some of the glamor out of the quote/unquote glamor position. So for those reasons I can respect it even though I can not endorse it. And even still, I gotta admit it’s not as bad as the mini-fedora.
This is what our hard earned fan dollars go toward. In our own small way, we contributed to this travesty of style. And we have to live it, admit that it happened, and try to move from it as best we can.
by furthur56 on Jan 25, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep, thats our QB...
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I was glad this got swept under the rug at BTSC
But then you had to bring it up…
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by John Stephens on Jan 25, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry dude, but homerism has some limits.
That hat was horrible.
I enjoyed the look
he looked like a 30s gangster
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 25, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Rule of thumb to follow for hat wearers: If you have a gigantic head, wearing a mini-style of hat only makes that noggin look bigger. He really needs to stick with backwards ball caps.
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Or the new spokesperson for TCM channel...
…
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head gear
I am not certain what you can wear for head gear, when you have a melon that size, that is going to look fashionable. A toque maybe.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 25, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well, he got it half right, at least -
the suit is way better than the baby blue leisure suit he was wearing after one of the games this season. I’m guessing the wife picked the suit and he thought the hat would be just the thing to top it off…
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by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 28, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I have to be honest < deep breath >
I didn’t get nearly as much joy as I anticipated I would watching the Ravens lose that game. I expected I would take great pleasure in such a heartbreaker for them… and yet, a part of me just feels damn bad for them. Don’t worry; I’ll be stocking up on Hateraide before next season.
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
I'm with you!
I was telling my husband about Cundiff’s usual 1st 2nd 3rd down routine being screwed up (and does anybody find that suspicious? In Foxboro? LOL) and he said "You aren’t actually feeling sorry for the Ravens, are you?! And I guess I am, a bit. But next time we play them, that’s all out the window, and I hope that Billy Cundiff has a bad day, just like everyone else on their team : )
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
“It was all that Dan Marino’s fault, everybody knows THAT!”
by Neal Coolong on Jan 24, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Cundiff doesn't warrant wha t was being said about his family.
That behavior should be condemned.
Flacon needs to shave the stash other wise their might be a village people reunion!
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