The Top Five Positions of Need for the Steelers in the 2012 NFL Draft
Millions of things could happen between the time immediately after the Colts draft Andrew Luck with the top pick of the 2012 Draft and when the Steelers go on the clock with, presumably, the 24th pick. That makes it next to impossible to state the likelihood right now of any one player becoming the next Steelers rookie.
It's even less likely to make such predictions after the first round, so instead of trying to do that, here are the top five positions I see the Steelers addressing with their first-round pick.
And let's just say I see trading up being more appealing than in recent years.
5. Offensive tackle
Just hear me out. With the return of Willie Colon (hopefully for a period of time measured in at least months, instead of plays), and Marcus Gilbert's move to left tackle, the Steelers are likely to keep Jonathan Scott as the main back-up to both positions, and re-sign Trai Essex and his versatility instead of Max Starks.
Continuing on the path of taking offensive linemen high in the draft will pan out, but the problems the Steelers had last season had far more to do with the interior of the line than on the edge. The trend of rushing outside linebackers has been stunting into the middle, where pass protectors are more prone to misreads either to their left or right. While the Steelers tackles haven't been great the last two seasons, there are more pressing needs. Expect a tackle to be taken with the Steelers' third or four pick.
4. Safety
FS Ryan Clark had one of his best seasons, and perhaps the Steelers underestimated his absence in their playoff loss at Denver. However, the size of pass catchers in the NFL is increasing at a high rate, and a bigger safety with stronger pass coverage skills could be a benefit.
Along with that, SS Troy Polamalu plays as fearlessly as Clark does, and that kind of physicality will lead to injuries. S Will Allen is not likely to be back in 2012, and the Steelers need to start looking toward the future of both of those positions.
3. Nose tackle
The retirement of Chris Hoke and the impending contract issue with Casey Hampton leaves only Steve McLendon at a critical position. McLendon is extremely strong and is improving greatly, but isn't ready to be the full-time starter. It's likely Hampton will accept a lesser contract to stay in Pittsburgh, but 2012 will be his last year in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh needs to address the nose tackle position, preferably with someone more athletic than McLendon.
2. Offensive guard
Chris Kemoeatu will not be back in 2012, leaving the Steelers with LG Doug Legursky and RG Ramon Foster. Both will make the team, but an upgrade is needed. After failed draft picks Kraig Urbik (doing just fine in Buffalo) and Keith Williams (on the Bills practice squad), the Steelers have a lack of depth at the position. They've won games with Foster and Legursky, but the reality is they'd be back-ups on far more teams than they'd be starters.
Georgia's Cordy Glenn could be the kind of swing player (can play both guard and tackle) the Steelers love drafting, and could be available at 24. Don't rule out the possibility of trading up to land Stanford's David DeCastro, though.
Iowa State's Kelechi Osemele is another swing prospect who could be available in the second round.
1. Inside linebacker
Inside linebacker barely finishes ahead of guard. Yes, I'm aware of the state of the offensive line. The issue here isn't talent as much as it's depth. Depth, not only on the team but in the draft.
The Steelers have to be eyeing Arizona State's Vontaze Burfict and Alabama's Dont'a Hightower with great interest. They are both big and hit with serious power, and can crush a running back downhill. Burfict is a bit fiery, but would be a great candidate to shadow a savvy vet like James Farrior for a while to not only learn the complex buck linebacker position, but learn how to handle himself on and off the field like a pro.
Hightower is probably better suited for a 3-4 inside linebacker because he has better coverage skills. He seems just too talented to last until 24, but, like DeCastro, he may be the kind of player the Steelers need to trade up to acquire. Mack ILB Lawrence Timmons doesn't seem to be moving over to the buck, and Stevenson Sylvester was beyond underwhelming in his only significant snap count of the year against New England, and outside of practice squad LB Mortty Ivy, there isn't anyone backing up Farrior or LB Larry Foote (the contracts of Foote and Farrior are both up after 2012). They need to address this position throughout the draft, and they're going to need to make a decision on their future at this position.
That brings an interesting wrinkle to the speculation mill. If the Steelers simply don't seem as interested in finding Farrior's replacement it leads to the question of what the defense will be in the near future. A middle linebacker's role in a Tampa 2 defense (the same defense Steelers coach Mike Tomlin studied under Tony Dungy, who, incidentally, took much of it from former Steelers coach Chuck Knoll in the 70s) isn't as complex as the responsibilities a buck LB has in a 3-4. Timmons has the athleticism to play in deeper coverage, a requirement in the Tampa 2, and having one less inside/middle linebacker being on the field could be the reason why the Steelers haven't really gone after inside linebackers in recent drafts.
All of that certainly is a stretch, especially considering the Steelers play a lot of Cover 2 now as it is. But there are good (potentially great) players who will be available when the Steelers go on the clock.
We just know it won't be a quarterback. We don't think.
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In the mock draft I am working on
I have the Steelers taking Mike Adams at 24. Not because it is their biggest need but because he is the BPA by far. I have the same exact order for the Steelers top 5 needs. I could see them taking any of the positions except safety in the first round.
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 31, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions
I thought the same thing
few weeks back, we might just surprise everyone and draft an OT in the first, partly due to later round of availabilty of our position needs..
by OR69faithfull on Jan 31, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Mike Tomlin is interviewing Todd Haley
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 31, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions
Is it a variant of the Rooney rule
that they must interview at least one abusive coach?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 31, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now Neal
It is important to ask these questions. How else will I ever learn?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
It’s the Parcells Rule, though, not the Rooney Rule.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 31, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Rofl
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 31, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
ILB is clearly #3 in my mind
G and NT are 1a and 1b. there is NO talent or depth at G and Hampton is much less likely to return than Farrior or Foote given his injury and his contract. there are worse things than to have Farrior (at a reduced paycheck) for another year. case in point, having Hampton and no young, top tier talent behind him would be much much worse. my list would go like this
1. NT
2. Guard
3. ILB
4. S
5. RB
by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 31, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions
No talent at guard?!? Really?!?
Can I have some of what you’re smokin’?? jk
I love the guards in this draft. While I agree with you about Hampton, I just think a guy like Cordy Glenn is too much to pass on. It’s not a positional thing, it’s a player thing. You can’t just draft a position with your first round pick because it’s what you need; you have to weigh in the talent of the players available along with the needs of other positions.
Hampton may not come back, that’s true. But Kemoeatu isn’t coming back either. We have two starting guards and one nose tackle, none of whom could be confused with being better than average players.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 31, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I find guard deep this year as well....
by OR69faithfull on Jan 31, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Oh wait
Did you mean the Steelers currently have no depth or talent at guard?
I thought you meant there wasn’t any in the draft.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 31, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Guard & ILB
that’s pretty much it … our boys HAVE to draft for the interior OL in the first 2 rounds, and Glenn or DeCastro sound like great picks to me.
Certainly OG and NT are needs, but...
that doesn’t mean that there is a true 2-gap NT that is worth a 1st or 2nd rounder. ILB has a few guys (Dont’a Hightower, Luke Kuechly, and Bobby Wagner) that are, in my opinion, noticeably better than the rest, and as we know, rookies take awhile to learn the defense. Now we’re talking about the Buck and the guy who is calling the defense, so the learning curve might be longer. As a result, we need to be VERY particular about who we go after. There are solid 2-gap NTs later in the draft
after Dontari Poe and Alameda Ta'amu
i dont see a NT that can be trusted to become a legitimate starter. if I’m in the Steelers’ front office, I would find it extremely hard to pass up on the #1 NT this year at 24. now, before people jump on me for being too need-oriented, i would NEVER argue with Best Player Available. if there is an ILB available that we have rated higher than any NT, then we should take him. But if there are two guys with equal grades available, i would sooner take the NT than ILB. like i said above, there are worse things for this team than having Farrior for another year.
by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 31, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
agree
NT is the #1 priority right now. If Hampton was completely healthy you could bump this priority to #2 or 3, but you also lose Hoke to retirement. Right now, people are thinking Hampton will be back, after surgery, etc. That isnt the approach to take, you have to look at it as he is on IR and there is NO guarantee he will be back. So, you have no starting NT right now.
Guards are deep in the draft, then we should be able to get one at #2.
And, Kirby Wilson has been sitting up today and watching television
He is progressing well which is great news. Our thoughts and prayers are still with you Kirby.
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 31, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
mine as well....
and there is a strong possibility our lack of direction publicly about our new OC hinges in part on his recovery and availabilty next season..
by OR69faithfull on Jan 31, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
That's awesome
Thanks for sharing.
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by John Stephens on Jan 31, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
good news
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 31, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
so hard to judge
direction this year…. so many talented players at are need positions, as well as a big turn over of veterans this year… then throw in a new OC and transition to a new DC soon after, its perplexing accounting for all the variables….
I would add FB as position of need… with hopes of our running corp healing… dont know if safty is a “urgent need”…. Iv been watching this kid from Oregon the past few seasons… if it werent for his off field issues, and maturity (something I think can be steelered out of him) he would be (even though ta bit undersized, a great player to move from his current CB to safty position….he has great ball awareness and game.. and likely could snatch him up in the later rounds, a prayer would be the third…
Cliff Harris?
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
No way do I want to touch him.
Doesn’t he have major character concerns? Not thanks.
well... 21 yr old kids ( I have some )
grow up to be fine adults…. I dont exactly consider past transgressions a rule for ignoring pure talent…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 31, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I suppose
But 21 year old kids who have all the opportunities in the world and then ignore them, I’m not a huge fan of take the chance that they’ll suddenly grow up after being drafted. This isn’t a guy like Dre Kirkpatrick who smoked weed a couple times, this guy was actually dismissed from a team after numerous chances to change his act. No thanks.
Just saying, at 21 years old
He should know that driving without a license and being high while you do it is a pretty stupid thing to do, and he clearly didn’t give a damn. No thanks.
never driven with a beer to many?..
or smoked a joint?… well, your a bit whiter then me….but…. I do see the reward out weighing the risk of a third round selection….
by OR69faithfull on Jan 31, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
This is the type of guy
you wait till later rounds for unless you have draft picks to burn. I think the Steelers have too many needs to blow an early pick on a potential headcase.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 31, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
well..
hes a pretty talented kid for the 30 or so games ive seen him play…great insticts and play making ability…hard combination to find……. I find him to small for corner in the NFL, but hes a great candidate to move to safety with 20 lbs of bulk on him… obviously cant speak first hand if his problems are gangsta or immaturity based… I can say he didnt go out and shoot himself in the leg like another higher round draft selection weve made…
by OR69faithfull on Jan 31, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
I will agree with you on this. I sure wouldn’t mind if we dropped a mid-round pick on him.
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4th or later maybe
If the Steelers grab him, I trust they have done theri due diligence.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 31, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
21 year old kids are one thing
but i would have to assume 21 year old kids who are suddenly being paid large sums of money are a different matter. that can’t be very good for the maturation process
No way we touch him
He was once thought to be a 1st- 2nd round pick and has so blown his stock up that I doubt he will be drafted at all.
From ESPN
He also was suspended from the team — he missed the opener against LSU — after he was stopped by police for driving 118 mph with a suspended license on the interstate. Dashboard camera footage from an Oregon State Police patrol car during the June 12, 4:30 a.m. traffic stop included this memorable exchange:
Patrolman: "Who’s got the marijuana in the car?"
Harris: “We smoked it all.”
Does that sound like a Steelers player? Dumb and immature
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
Patrolman: “Who’s got the marijuana in the car?”
Harris: "We smoked it all."
That’s the best answer I’ve ever heard! I actually like this kid more now.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Patrolman: “Who’s got the marijuana in the car?”
Harris: "We smoked it all."
Does that sound like a Steelers player?
Maybe a former player, who might become a former Jet. I heard he likes to light some grass from time to time…
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Cliff Harris
He’s an amazing athlete but i wouldn’t mind if we picked him up anytime after the 4th round. But he’s one of those guys you just see where Ravens, or Bengals colors. They love them some convicts.
by jRaGsDaLe717 on Jan 31, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
He plays nickel back for the them actually
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"We smoked all the weed"
Cliff Harris to a cop that pulled him over on a traffic stop.
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"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
by WVPiratesfan on Feb 1, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Based on absolutely zero actual statistical analysis, it seems to me that when the steelers go to their heavy package, it is usually 3 tight ends rather than 2 and a FB. I don’t see why we would draft a D Johnson clone even in later rounds.
by jedmiller71 on Jan 31, 2012 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
then again
weve struggle significantly to run the ball without 1 and seems Mr. Rooney Sr would like to be able to move more in that direction…. and I dont necessarly see anyone on our team to accomplish that
by OR69faithfull on Jan 31, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
the problem with a FB
is that they are hard to find, because the college game has been moving in the same direction as the pro’s, by utilizing the HB/TE instead of a true FB.
Part of this could be because the types of players who in the past, would have been a traditional FB, are more athletic today, and can contribute in the passing game.
by Greig Clawson on Jan 31, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I will go (from most important to least)
G
ILB
NT
OT
S
G – I think you are a bit too high on our interior linemen. They are all average run blockers and far below average pass blockers. I think with one talented G our OL would vastly improve as it would instantly improve Pouncey’s play and allow us to do more things in the run game.
ILB – 2 old guys and Timmons coming off his worst year since the high ankle sprain in 09.
NT – I’m really curious what Hampton if we ask him to take a cut. And I really hope Tomlin has the balls to cut him if he can’t work something out. We’d be hurting without him, but we are hurting worse paying a $2 mill (before the knee injury) player 8 million. McLendon gives us at least some flexibility. Using a high pick on a NT gives us a lot more.
OT – What can we expect from Colon? You can count the snaps he’s taken in the last 2 years on your hands and toes. Gilbert was okay at RT, but I don’t think he has the talent to be a top tier LT in this year. I’d prefer to have someone there who is extremely athletic and quick. That guy is not on the roster.
S – I think Troy can play for quite awhile longer, but Clark doesn’t have the playmaking ability that Troy does. Time to find an heir.
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Lots of that is incoherent.
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by John Stephens on Jan 31, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
nah its fine
i agree
that is why i think we should trade down and get a bunch of picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds to fill those holes while all getting quality players
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 31, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Safety
The question with Troy will not be if he can play awhile longer but when he decides he wants to move on. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him retire in his prime to do other things with his life.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 31, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't see this as a bad year for Timmons
He didn’t have the numbers, but the dude was playing all linebacker positions due to others injuries. I saw it as a down year for splash plays by the entire defense (see dire lack of turnovers), but I wouldn’t single Timmons out as having a bad year.
you're right
Get a top flight Guard and be done with it … I think we have a bit more time and options to resolve the ILB crisis
I agree with the positions, but not the rankings
1. NT – Hampton not only carries a huge cap number that we can’t absorb, you neglected to mention that he has a blown ACL that required surgery. So his chances of being ready for opening day aren’t good at all. Hoke is gone. That leaves one guy, the 285 pound McLendon, as our only NT unless we move Ziggy over. McL simply isn’t strong enough or big enough to fill the position. Furthermore, we’d have a hard time finding one in free agency. So at this moment, I don’t see how we can pencil in anyone who is capable of filling this role on opening day. That’s a massive, massive hole in our defense. As such, this is position #1 unless we somehow hear great news on Hampton soon.
Note: We’re lucky that the rest of the positions are relatively “cheap” as compared to other positions on the field. We may be active in the FA market, even with our limited cap room, on one or more of these. Of all the positions on a football field, OG, LB, S and RB are some of the easiest to replace. Thank goodness.
2. ILB – I’d give the slight edge to ILB as a need over OG or S. Farrior or Foote (or both) will be gone due to cap reasons and both are showing signs of slowing down. If one comes back, we may not need a starter. If they both go, this becomes a far more pressing need. With Sly the only backup and an unproven commodity, we do need help fast at the ILB. I wouldn’t be surprised to see us reach out in free agency on this position given that it’s very tough to bring a rookie into this system at ILB.
3. OG / OT – If we’re healthy and bring Starks back, we may not need a starter here. Even if we do need a starter, guard is one of the cheapest/easiest positions to fill in the NFL. Once everyone gets healthy, I can envision a line of Starks, Foster, Pouncey, Colon and Gilbert (main backups of Legursky and Scott) – that’s more than acceptable in the NFL. But we can and should strive to do better, especially with the injury problems. But a mid-round pick who can be developed be all we need, rather than a 1st round pick who we need to start right away. I listed this as OG/OT because it all depends on whether or not we bring Max back. If we don’t, this jumps up to position #2 and becomes an OT, which is much harder to fill.
4. Safety – This is a major position of need – moreso than people think. It’s running neck and neck with OG. Both of our starting safeties are in their 30s and our backups are questionable at best. Will Allen is ok, but Mundy just doesn’t cut it. It takes two years to learn safety in this defense and we need replacements for Troy and Ryan now. It doesn’t mean that we need to spend a 1st or 2nd round pick on one, but we need options.
5. RB – Mendy has an ACL tear. That’s a pretty tough injury to come back from. And besides Mendy and Redman (who is serviceable), who is left? Clay? Moore? Baron Batch? Dwyer? Oh, that’s a lot of question marks, injuries, unproven guys and aging veterans. Frankly, I think we need help at both the RB and FB positions.
As far as the draft goes, we’ll grab the top guy on our board at OL, ILB or NT. So Hightower may very well be our 1st pick. But that doesn’t mean it’s the greatest position of need. As it is, it’s too early for me to mock the draft. Gotta wait until after the combine.
McLendon is at least 310lbs, maybe more. It’s just that no website has updated his weight yet.
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Fair enough, but the way he was pushed around in the Denver game doesn’t inspire confidence that he can handle the role.
He was our only healthy NT he played most of the game with no backup to give him some rest. Of course he is going to get pushed around if he is too tired. Plus, the air up here is very thin, so I’m sure that didn’t help.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
I used to live in Durango, so I know about thin air. But I just don’t see McL as anything more than a stop-gap backup. I don’t think he played well enough to be our starter given the importance of that position in our scheme. Do you agree or disagree?
If you disagree, then you’ll have another order of importance. No big deal, we’ll just disagree about McL. As a Steeler fan, I hope I’m wrong. :)
If you agree, then NT has to be the top need because it’s easily the most glaring hole.
Hampton not only carries a huge cap number that we can’t absorb, you neglected to mention that he has a blown ACL that required surgery.
True. Editing mistake. I did point out in my previous column that it’s nearly guaranteed he’ll start the year on the PUP.
McL simply isn’t strong enough or big enough to fill the position.
I can see size as an issue, but strength certainly isn’t. He’s as strong as an ox and works his tail off in the weight room.
We do need another player in there. If they dip into free agency at all, it’ll be a low-cost veteran DT.
2. ILB – I’d give the slight edge to ILB as a need over OG or S. Farrior or Foote (or both) will be gone due to cap reasons and both are showing signs of slowing down.
Obviously I agree with where you put ILB, it won’t be because Farrior and/or Foote will be released. There is no depth at the position now, and you still have to pay replacements. You cannot start the year with either a rookie or a replacement player starting and backing up the most important LB position. At least one of them are staying.
I do think it’s a toss-up between G and ILB, because there’s the best combination of available players likely at 24 and biggest team need.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 31, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Starks
you then neglected to mention that Starks tore his ACL when you envision our line. Coming back from an ACL tear is hard enough for guys that aren’t overweight. Hampton and Starks will not help much next year, and I wouldn’t expect Mendenhall to be back to where he was.
by ballparkfranks on Jan 31, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
agree
There is so much riding in this draft due to this off season. This list could change tomorrow if they let Foote and Farrior go. But I really think NT is #1. Right now, we dont have a healthy starting NT. And that is how you have to treat it. There is NO guarantee Hampton will be heatlhy after this surgery.
I don't know if the order will matter come draft day
I assume we will take the BPA at these positions and possibly trade up, if it isn’t too expensive, to grab a ILB, an O-lineman or, in the 2nd or 3rd round a NT.
It will be interesting to see how some of the younger non-starters progress in the off-season and in training camp.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 31, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions
Question about the "need" at ILB
Teams are playing a lot more nickle defense, which usually means one of the inside backers being replaced with a DB. Not saying they shouldn’t go after an inside backer, because if anything, the team could use depth at the position. My question is whether or not it’s worth using a high pick, to draft a guy who will only see the field on half of the defensive snaps. The Steelers might be just as well off, by going after a big safety, who is good in run support. “Big Nickle” seems to be the best approach at defending the explosive TE’s we’re seeing around the league.
Greig, the problem is that...
we STILL NEED a buck. Timmons can’t call the defense, or won’t, or whatever. Regardless, he isn’t calling the defense, and we need someone to take the dot from Farrior/Foote. A guy like Hightower would stay on the field anyway, as he provides solid pass rush and athleticism from a 3-point in nickel situations, as he did with Alabama so well.
We can get big safeties and big CBs later in the draft as well. Remember, we’re talking about the guy who is going to be the QB of the front 7 here, not just a guy who will make tackles.
Hightower isn't staying on the field
in passing situations. If he’s on the line in nickle situations, who are you taking out? At the risk of answering my own question, are you talking about playing 2 D-lineman, Hightower, 3 backers, and 5 DB’s?
One of the interesting things you point out
Is the possibility of the move to a 4-3 Tampa 2 scheme. One reason the Steelers had so much initial success with the 3-4 defense was that they were one of very few teams that ran the system, so finding elite players to fit their system wasn’t nearly as difficult. With alot of the league moving to a 3-4 system now, it might make sense to switch back and get the play makers you can at that system. Is it necessarily a good reason to switch? No, but it is one of the perks of doing so. The obvious reason would be more coaching staff familiarity when Coach LeBeau decides to step away from the game. I think, though, one of the most telling signs of that is if they pass on a NT that is available if Burfict, Hightower, DeCastro, etc (guys who are probably better value at positional needs) are off the board.
Now, to address the point at hand, assuming we stick 3-4 (because it would be weird to assume otherwise), the most needed positions are:
1) OG – not to be confused with “Original Gangster”, this is huge. The talent level really isn’t there. Drafting a 1st rd OG (BPA, etc) would go a long way to helping that O-Line. Grabbing 2 would be great.
2) NT – Who backs up here next year to begin the year? I’ve got McClendon starting (assuming Snack-tastic is still recovering), and then…? I don’t know. You have to get a talented body here for the long term. Steve McClendon is not a long term answer.
3) ILB – Just no depth there at all. I’m leery of Farrior, but there’s no way a rookie starts at buck anway, so it has to be someone that can replace him soon.
4) Safety – Troy is Troy, and a hall of famer. But he’s also the wrong side of 30 (though barely) and more importantly, the wrong side of several concussions (I couldn’t find a definitive number, but I remember an ESPN graphic showing a lot). Point being, between the way him and Clark play, there’s need for depth there and soon. Antonio Allen mid to late 4th round would be awesome, and I think there’s the depth you need for now, plus future starting ceiling.
5) OLB – Guess how much depth we have at OLB? Not as much as I thought. I wasn’t thrilled with Worilds, especially in run support, and then behind him is… Lawerence Timmons apparently. James Harrison isn’t young, and after the season Woodley had with the number of injuries, it’s clear there’s a need at depth here. Not as critical as the others, but definitely an area of concern.
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Don't think the Steelers would have worked so hard
to keep Butler on the staff, unless they were committed to 3-4 after LeBeau moves on
by Greig Clawson on Jan 31, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
I don't disagree
But for those still wondering, the draft will provide fuel to the fire either way
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Linebackers
The Steelers signed LB Mario Harvey (Marshall Univ) a former Colt last week. Harvey was
on the Steeler draft board last year but the pics did not go his way to be a Steeler. Pay attention to him guys as the “need” to draft for linebacker is not as great.
No Harvey was on the team during training camp signed as a UDFA
He isn’t that great, I even did an article on him being worst then expected because some people wanted him as high as the fourth round…
He is a special teams player at best right now. great athlete but struggles to over come his size when reading plays in the NFL
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 31, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
My guess on needs
In order:
1. NT – Although the ILB position is needy, a good NT can alleviate a slightly sub-par Buck, especially in the run game. I suspect the Steelers will target a NT in RD1 in this draft and will ask Casey to turn his 1 year into two to get his cap number down. This is the most important position in the 3-4.
2. OG – for obvious reasons. Maybe Rd1 or Rd2…or more in Rds 4-7.
3. Safety – with a pass happy league, a safety that can play over the top is vital. You can always have three safeties on the field in dime and nickle formations too. This pick lets Troy play a “rover” in those formations with 2DL, 4LBs, 2CBs and two other safeties…or in a 2-3-6. Depends on who is left @ 24…that kid from Alabama might be a good fit.
4. ILB – they will re-sign Foote and draft an ILB in rounds 3-4. Too many other needs and too much $$$$ locked up in the LB rotation right now to go higher.
5. CB – A depth upgrade would be nice. Round 4-7 flyer.
Locks not to go in RD 1: QB, kicker, punter, WR
trade down
My perfect sceanrio is we trade down for extra picks…and…with our first selection Ronnell Lewis of OK is still available.
I am all for the Steelers going with an inside linebacker in the first round. It’d for sure be the most exciting for me just because envisioning woodley, Timmons, burfict/Hightower playing for the rest of the decade together is thrilling.
by Merle1989 on Feb 1, 2012 6:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
NT
Delvin Johnson NT from Marshall has good highlights on youtube.

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