Tomlin Said to be Checking Into Former Chiefs Head Coach Todd Haley for Offensive Coordinator Job

…but if Haley can’t temper his “passion and enthusiasm” better, then his hiring will not be a good long-term fit. A little more bluntly this time, if I’m Mike Tomlin, this is #1 on my list of requirements for the man: You either stop the sniping or you don’t work for me!

Hiring Haley would probably just muddy the waters even more, though. The odds of Fichtner staying would likely drop considerably, especially with Arians over at the Colts and in need of a QB guy. Assuming that Haley arrives and Fichtner leaves, the Steelers would then have a new OC, a new QB coach and – don’t forget – possibly a new RB coach as well. That’s a lot of key changeover for the offense…

Not really. I wasn’t trying to make a crack on Ben or any of your players, just saying that Haley has a short fuse and usually blows up on his players for the dumbest stuff. Did it with Boldin in Arizona, did it with multiple players in KC. He is just an overall jackass.

wouldn’t you love to see that?

I would. I hate Todd Haley.

LOLS

Croyle should have fought fire with fire. “You called me over for THIS??? Next time, you’re on your #%@&ing back! Do you hear me? On your #%@&ing BACK!” What say you, Tom Brady?

And Pioli should have stepped right in afterward as well. “Jesus Christ, Haley! Coach the #%@&ing team! Do you hear me? Coach the #%@&ing TEAM!” Clearly, all of this would have worked out for the better, right Todd Haley?

I also liked how they utilized guys like Jamaal Charles last year, both as an outside runner and receiving threat, which would seem to match Mendenhall’s skill set, if recovered. Plus to see Miller used like he did Moeaki would be interesting.

I was writing so fast I forgot to mention that part.

kinda like missing troy O _ o

It might behoove Tomlin to find someone slightly different from himself.

Here’s a bit more info that the post didn’t supply to give you an idea.

It was on the cutting room floor, but essentially I couldn’t bring myself to mention it…sadly, because I think I believe Haley.

I was thinking something similar, and could not imagine that Haley could be as he is portrayed and still receive inquiries from Tomlin.

I have followed his career since being an OC in AZ.

So…four years?

Ask Kurt Warner, Larry Fitzgerald, Keyshawn Johnson about Haley. Ask most of the Chiefs players

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Do we need to ask the Chiefs players? Or should we just watch the way they played against the Jets under Haley, followed by how well they played against the Packers the next week?

I don’t care about sound bytes. None of those guys have anything to gain by speaking badly about the man. I could bring up Larry Johnson, but he’s just a crazy person, right? All you’re basically saying is the media and the Chiefs front office is out to get Todd Haley, and they’re reporting nothing but half-truths at best.

I’ve watched the Chiefs play this season in preparation for the eventuality that Todd Haley’s name was going to surface for this position, and the one glaring thing I see from the players is they are only playing hard on the defensive side of the ball. Offensively, they were sloppy, undisciplined and didn’t really seem all that competitive. If him getting after his players is supposed to be such a great thing, then why didn’t it work? Injuries? Yeah, the Steelers didn’t deal with any of those, they were still out there competing.

They also were far more motivated and energetic starting the game after Haley was fired.

I really just can’t understand why you’ll dismiss the fact Haley was fired in the middle of the year, and the team nearly carried Crennel off the field when they beat the Packers, followed by the franchise hiring Crennel full time.

…and you’re right, at leat I forgot about the close call we had against Palko.

What’s your opinion on all that ranting and raving he does on the sideline? From an outsiders perspective I thought it was embarrassing. I’m not sure I’d want that from an OC.

Mike Vrabel never had a problem with Haley. Vrabel wasn’t happy that he got traded to a lousy team out of the blue, which is what the linked article is referring to. But there was never any problem between him and Haley.

So Vrabel just skipped OTAs for the first time in his career? Seems unbecoming of a long-standing veteran. And the article I referenced

The Jets game was an awful game. But it was just two weeks after the Pittsburgh game and one week after the Chiefs won in Chicago. The idea that the team quit on Haley after a near-win and an actual win is pretty silly.

We’ll have to agree to disagree, but I really don’t care what happened before that Jets game. What I saw was a gutless team with little or no interest in what was happening.

You can argue all day, all I need to point out is the fact Haley was fired after that game.

Gailey was held over from Herm Edwards’ coaching staff. Depending on who you want to believe, Haley wanted to pick his own OC, as any coach would, but was pressured into keeping Gailey by KC owner Clark Hunt because Hunt didn’t want to pay two coordinators. It was never a good marriage and Haley finally pulled the plug during the preseason. There was never said to be any animosity between the two, they just had different philosphies.

Finally? He was given three preseason games. That’s a control freak, not a personnel manager.

And it’s good to see he’s willing to work within the constraints he’s given from his boss. Perhaps things like that are part of the reason he was shown the door midway through a season.

There’s no question he can let his emotions get the best of him. But if Haley was half as bad as this summary makes him seem, why would Mike Tomlin even be checking into him?

Due diligence. Reference checks. Standard operating procedure. Trying to convince himself he’s not a complete jackass because he may have to hire him.

To sum up, I’m not familiar enough with the Steelers’ offense (or what changes they apparently want to make to it with Arians gone) to comment on how Haley would fit with the team. But a lot of these criticisms of him don’t really hold water.

The criticisms themselves are based in his personality and his past, very little of it has anything to do with his offense.

I apologize if I don’t buy the notion that you being a Chiefs fan makes you an authority on management, but my opinion is he’s a bad fit with this organization from a personality perspective. I stand by what I wrote.

I agree, three torn ACLs in three weeks to key players (on fluke plays) were about the extent of major injuries to Chiefs players this season. I’d say over Haley’s three years KC was almost certainly one of the least injured teams in the league. Part of that is due to having a young roster, but he definitely deserves credit for driving the team on conditioning as well.

that the steelers want to run the ball more and so that means Todd Haley would not be a good fit. that is wrong. When we had larry johnson and then Charles, that is all Haley wanted to do.

and another great thing about him was when we had Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones running the ball together last season when the Chiefs lead the league in rushing. Haley DID NOT run Charles as much as Chiefs fans and Fantasy Football guys would have liked but it kept Charles fresh for the end of the season. I loved it.

Knocking him because of the offenses performance in KC isn’t fair IMO. A head coach has many other responsibilities managing the team – hence why Tomlin lets is coordinators do their job instead of calling his own plays during the games.

That’s nice…tell me though, what other responsibilities does he have outside the success of his team? It’s perfectly fair to question the head coach as far as the performance of the team goes, because that is his job.

I’ve mentioned this before, but I’ll never understand why people seem to think the coordinator is somehow outside the head coach, as if he reports straight to the GM or something. I don’t care how many yards the Chiefs ran for, they were not a strong offensive team. They played in a bad division the last two seasons, and while key players were out, we had key players out, our offense was so terrible, we had to go get a new coordinator.

from what Chiefs fans are saying, it seems like Haley was scapegoated for the disappointing season the Chiefs had.

also, take a look at his track record. with Warner, Fitz, and Boldin in Arizona he ran one of the most potent passing attacks in the league. then with Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones in KC they had the #1 rushing attack.

I am looking at his track record, read the article. The Cardinals were a 9-7 team that backed into the playoffs, and had one of the greatest the game has ever seen catch fire in the playoffs. Outside of that, NOTHING. It doesn’t take a genius to get Jamaal Charles the ball, but I don’t see Matt Cassel coming even remotely close to the contract he got. If Haley works so well with offenses, how come he could never throw the ball?

I believe that some did but I didn’t see any players throwing a fit when he left. I also don’t remember players treating him any where near they way they did Romeo.

He did help some players. I’ll give him that but I think there were just as many that didn’t care about him as who liked him and I think there were a lot who thought his tantrums were getting old real quick. The guy was no Cowher, Belichick, Parcells, or any other well loved hard nosed coach.