5 Burning Questions Steelers vs. Broncos Wild Card Edition
The Cincinnati Benglas failed to take care of business (no surprise there) but the Steelers victory over the Browns gave them a 12-4 record more than gets them into the playoffs. It also gives us plenty of material for our 5 Burning Questions Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Denver Broncos Wild Card Edition.
1. Neal Coolong described a private jersey ritual he will observe to honor Hines Ward's 1,000 catch achievement. The Steelers, have only officially retired Ernie Stautner's jersey, but have an unofficial rule that numbers 12, 32, 52, 58, 59*, and 75 do not get re-issued. Do you think number 86 needs to join that elite group?
2. Antonio Brown has had a sensational season, but nonetheless was a surprise winner of the Steelers 2011 MVP award. Do you think Brown has done enough to deserve the award, and if not who should have gotten it?
3. Ryan Clark and his doctors had apparently had a plan in place that would allow him to play at Denver. Given how thin Pittsburgh suddenly is at defensive back, do you think that Mike Tomlin is right not to play Clark?
4. The Steelers are also mighty thin at running back. Hines Ward played tail back his sophomore season at Georgia. If, God forbid, Pittsburgh should suffer another injury at running back during the playoffs should they consider lining Ward up in the backfield?
5. Name one player on each side of the ball that must step up his game for the Steelers run at Lombardi Number Seven to be successful.
Wild Card Question:
6. Seneca Wallace hurt the Steelers defense plenty with his scrambling ability. What must the Steelers defense do to stop Tim Tebow from doing the same?
There you go folks. Remember, to get full credit, you must "show your work." Enjoy!
*The astute ones will note that number 59 was indeed reassigned in 1984 - Since it has been out of circulation since then I can only assume this was an oversight. (Interestingly enough, Donnie Shell's number (31) went over a decade without being worn by another player.)
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1. It’s going to be kind of hard for them to retire a receiver’s number since there are five or six receivers on a roster and a few tight ends. Most are required to wear a number in the 80’s. I suppose they could pull it off.
2. Only player to ever accumulate 1000 receiving yards and 1000 return yards. Pretty good.
3. It’s one of those things where if the medical personnel are wrong, there probably is no turning back. As much as it pains me to say, Tomlin is probably doing the right thing.
4. It would make a great story.
5. Lamarr Woodley must resume his production before the injury, and number 7 must do the same.
6. Tebow is more of a bull than an elusive runner. I think he’ll be a little easier to contain.
Receivers can wear numbers from 10-19 as well and TE can wear numbers from 20-49 if they are converted from a FB
Make it happen Steelers management
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Back in my day we killed five hookers and thought nothing of it" Craig James
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 4, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
1. Why not? Super Bowl MVP and record breaker.
2. Absolutely. Brown impacts not only one phase but two phases of the game.
3. There’s more to life than football. I know how hard it is to sit out, but Ryan Clark the man is first and foremost. Even with doctors “plan” in hand I like playing it safe. The doctors couldn’t straight up give approval they had to devise a “plan”.
4. No, I don’t want to see Ward getting banged up. I don’t think the pounding would be good for his health. College is one thing, NFL in your latter years….another
5. On offense, Wallace. On defense Farrior. The reason I picked them is a solid game by both IS the difference. Not to say they aren’t delivering.
6. They will have to be disciplined and make sure tackles.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I should say also
Brown “greatly” impasts two phases
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Absolutely on Ward
He deserves to have it never re-issued, and there is no WAY, at his age, with his speed (or lack thereof) that he could be an effective tailback. A decade ago? Maybe.
Also agree on Wallace- if he is effective, and stretches that defense, it’s a big day for the Steelers offense, and a sure route to victory. Teams only lost to the Broncos down the stretch because they didn’t score enough points to get away from the anemic Tebow offense.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
1. No…not unless they stop passing out 82, 88, 26 and 47 also….these numbers are from Steelers already in the H.O.F
2.Yes…Brown has play with a high motor every chance he has stepped on the field. His tackle on the fake punt attempt verses the Rams was what made me feel he deserved it.
3.Yes..it’s just a game…I think Ryan’s family appreciates this decision.
4. No….play empty backfield and sub quick hit passes for the running game. This is not college and Hines is not built for the pounding of an NFL tailback. His age don’t help matters either.
5.Whole offense (score more points) and Mcfadden on defense…we need you to play like you should of started all year.
6.Spy all game long…Tebow and his passing game is not a threat. IMO
by Bradhaw's index finger on Jan 4, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions
One difference
on 1. – He has better numbers than all of them and is a Super Bowl MVP.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
So was Swann an ...
MVP in Superbowl X..
My point is that if they are in the H.O.F. it should be enough to not issue the number. IMO
by Bradhaw's index finger on Jan 4, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I know, but he has better credentials than Swann
AND Super Bowl MVP, only one of 8 players to get 1,000 catches (with only 7 lost fumbles), All time Steelers leader for Receptions, Receiving yards, and Receiving TD’s, has his own Rule for not hitting defenseless defenders, he has 22 Tackles after turnovers, no one has ever done More at the WR position. There have been other WR’s with better numbers than hines, but they weren’t laying Ed Reed out on run plays. Ward will be in the HOF, but he has to retire first. No contest.
I love Swann and Stallworth too, but Hines has done more on less talented teams. He was not blessed enough to be on those gifted teams of the 70’s, where 3/4 of the roster was HOF contenders.
I do agree with you on the HOF thing, but at the rate we are going it might have to be a “Ring of Honor” type thing, otherwise all our WR will be wearing numbers between 11-19…
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
tough to compare eras
Hines played in a completely different NFL than Swann and stalworth did.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
He still would have excelled in that era
he would have had his own rule as well from throwing CB that were trying to jam him at the line
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Back in my day we killed five hookers and thought nothing of it" Craig James
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 4, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
not saying his wouldn't
he just wouldn’t have the numbers he has, he doesn’t get 12k yards and 1k recs in the 70s
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't really mean to compare era's, just overall talent pool on the teams
Hines has been on some good teams, but the talent pool on those 70’s teams was really astounding. Just look at who isn’t in the HOF that should be and look at who already is – it’s a big list.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Still
I just dont see it, we’ll see I guess.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, look at it like this old "what if"
What if Barry Sanders had played behind the 90’s Dallas line during his career instead of lowly Detroit?
All I meant to say with my comment was that Hines was not surrounded by greatness at every position like Swann and Stallworth were. That being said, he has had years where the teams were great as well.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
I like the ring of honor deal...
more than numbers retireing because there have been so many Steeler greats and there are not enough numbers to pass around…how do you retire an “86” and not a “26” or an “88” and “82” for example without feeling like a slap in the face to the latter…
Ring of Honor would be great….but all in all, Hall of Fame is the pinnicle and Hines will get there 5 years after retirement. ;)
by Bradhaw's index finger on Jan 4, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
We only have number retired
I leave it up to a trivia question, first person to get it right gets my undying adoration
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Back in my day we killed five hookers and thought nothing of it" Craig James
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 4, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
#70
Ernest Alfred Stautner
by Bradhaw's index finger on Jan 4, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you sir win no money but
you get my undying adoration and a rec
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Back in my day we killed five hookers and thought nothing of it" Craig James
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 4, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No lifetime supply of..
Turtle Wax??
by Bradhaw's index finger on Jan 4, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, I think Ring of Honor is the way to go
We are really getting up there with the greats now… In the near future The Bus, Ben, Troy, Smith need to be added to the list…
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
don't know about 26
I have a big problem with the fact that he started at Purdue and ended at the Ravens and the Raiders.
Otherwise, he was awesome.
"I respect everyone on the football field. But some people I don't like. And some people I dislike even more." - James Harrison
by steely mcballs on Jan 4, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
if Hines was on that team
he wouldn’t got the catches he got because of how the NFL was then, the run was emphasized more.
think of it this way if Swann and Stallworth played today they’d be putting up numbers like Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald (what he normally does).
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Could be, but you also have to look at Hines longevity and durability
It isn’t quite the same as Favre retiring with the most interceptions… Hines has been very durable and has played a very long time for a WR, he also frequently had better receiving numbers than his “better” counterparts in Plex and or Holmes during his prime. Hines doesn’t get the respect he deserves.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
Hines would excel in any era, and has been the face of this team for a decade.
Not just as a receiver, but as an all-around football player, he has earned that honor.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Just Sayin'
that Hines played a Good part of his career with Bettis who has passed the Great Franco Harris in yardage. Most of which was gained while in Black & Gold. Hines got 1,000 rec. / 12,000+ yrds. on a Team that " LEARNED " everyone how to run the ball. Smash Mouth!
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by STEELER KANE on Jan 4, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He also played with Tommy Gun too
Cant say anything about Hines I guess, understandable – he is what I tried to model myself after as a WR very tough and block hard and make tough catches.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Oh crap...
Sorry, Steeler Kane I’m posting from an ipad and I think I just flagged you when I meant to rec…oops!
lol
thats happened to me before
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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Are you serious?
22 tackles after turnovers? Are you sure none of them were on ST? If accurate, that is an incredible stat that tells a lot about the type of player he is…
by steelerwheeler on Jan 4, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I predict no one on this board will say Clark should play. But- great news- Kenan and Cortez could possibly be ready for Baltimore or NE.
3. Clark can’t play, but the news that Kenan “only” has a minor hamstring pull and that Cortez has improved all the way to “questionable” is great . Now the Steelers have a fair chance to play with the Big Boys in two weeks.
5. Offense—Ben’s long passes (over 15 yards) must not sail over the receivers head on some key plays.
Defense- We need our Woodley back from the past playoffs!
That's a big deal
The Broncos simply can’t test anyone’s secondary; it doesn’t matter if the receivers are open because Tebow will probably miss them. Playing NE with a bunch of practice squad guys in the secondary is another matter. A healthy secondary is absolutely vital for that game.
Tebow will miss open WR's in quarters 1-3...
but you can rest assure that won’t be the case in the 4th.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jan 4, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed
therefore it is important to build a three touchdown lead before then. Nah, better make it four, just to be safe.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
nonsense
the last 3 games Tebow’s been a joke. Even in the fourth quarter.
"I respect everyone on the football field. But some people I don't like. And some people I dislike even more." - James Harrison
by steely mcballs on Jan 4, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
only matters if we go to NE
in my mind……rather see him heal properly if we get Ravens next week for the Championship game in NE
by OR69faithfull on Jan 4, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Here goes..
1. Absolutely. To accomplish what only 8 others in the entire league have ever done is worthy in and of itself. How many of the others mentioned have accomplished something-individually- like that? Super Bowl MVP…changing the way the game is played (Hines Ward rule), etc…completely worthy of official retiremnt, imo- let alone unofficial.
2. No. I do believe Ben is more valuable to the team. I think tat if Antonio went down, Ben would have gotten more balls to Cotchery or one of the other receivers that were healthy. Thy may not have been as spectacular, but they would have been enough to win. Also- while Brown has a lot of return yards, he doesn’t have a really high average on punt returns.
3. Yes. Life at stake. No “plan” is worth the risk. Football (or any job for that matter) is not worh it.
4. Why not? :) Then again, Troy played running back when he was younger as well. He’d be a better choice I think.
5. Hard to say as it really depends on who you’re playing. But:
Offense- Ben- and followed closely by Max Straks. Ben’s injured but if he can’t extend plays like he has in the past, the Ravens will win easily. Same thing if Starks cant handle Suggs.
Defense- Casey Hampton. Baltimore will attempt to “legally” chop block him all day. Unless he can get off of them and eliminate the cut back lane by penetrating, Rice will kill us and it will take more than an “iffy” holding call to stop him this time.
6. The Steelers must use well diguised coverages to confuse Tebow in long situations without dropping back too many players. It isn’t necessary to blitz as much as it is to make sure there are no lanes for him out of the pocket. Tebow gaining two or three yards when he runs is not a threat to the win, nor are narrow windows to throw the ball. He can’t hit them consistently.
Ravens win easy?
Joe Flacco is so terrible odds are 50/50 that he gets Ratbirds past the bye week.
by steelerwheeler on Jan 4, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hope you're right.
That would be absolutely wonderful. But he’s looked like Brady when we’ve faced him this year…and that’s the only “50” that matters to the Steelers…
1) Yes. He’s one of those type of players.
2) Yes, but I’d make it a co-mvp with Keisel
3) Of course..we’re talking about the mans life
4) Yes, and if a QB catastrophe should happen (in my goomba voice…God fo-bid) I’d put him at QB too. I’d also consider Wallace or Brown in that spot
5) Offense-Ben Defense-Harrison
6) Nothing different. Wallace did his damage out of nowhere, because to that point, he showed no interest in taking off (from what I saw). They just need to play Steeler D
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It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Agree on Ward for #1
And on Clark- I seriously hope no one on this board thinks he should play. It’s an important game, but it’s still a game.
For #3 though, I think Ward a decade ago could have done it, but not the current variety. Put him in at fullback though, and let him deck people.
4) defense- Harrison will bring it regardless. I want to see a healthy and dominant Woodley.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Put him in at fullback though, and let him deck people.
I expect that nothing would make him happier…
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 4, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone has their destiny in life
I get the decided impression that Mr. Ward’s involves hitting people.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 5, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
answers
1. No I don’t. If 88 and 82 can be re-issued then 86 can.
2. Lets see, the man became the first person ever to gain a 1,000 yards in receiving and 1000 return yards. Whenever you become the first person ever to do something in the NFL its either exceptionally good enough to be recognized as the MVP or exceptionally bad enough to get cut. This was the former, no problems with the award because honestly if brown didn’t step up our offense stalls in many cases. His third down catches was clutch and when the defense has taken away the Mike Wallace Fast (deep) ball – Brown came through with a catch on the sidelines or over the middle. I hope Sanders stay healthy during the playoffs so we can see the trio back together doing damage.
3. Tomlin did the right thing, if there was any added risk for Clark you had to side on the side of caution. This is a mans life and Tomlin has shown that he cares more about Clark than a playoff victory. Thats the kind of stuff that make players run through walls for you. Trust me other players were watching to see what would be done too.
4. Nope. Go with what you have and if you run out of running backs go to a mostly shot gun formation and using the passing game like the running game. Heck let Dixon come in and do a couple QB draws. If he comes in now the starting QB can come back so there is no harm done.
5. Troy. I think Troy has to be amazing all-pro for us to make it. I’m talking several picks, deflecting passes, getting sacks, stopping running backs in the back field, and creating turnovers. Also Ben needs to show why, on the playoff stage, we all consider him an elite QB, I’m talking 70%+ completion percentage, 300+ yards passing per game, and 2+ passing TDs per game and no turnovers. I think this playoffs needs to be a showcase for Troy and Ben for the Hall of Fame, they have to carry this team to greatness of getting 3 Super Bowls.
6. Much of the same although S. Wallace scramble is different from T. Tebow scramble. Tebow is more power where Wallace is more agility, Wallace is more dangerous to this defense. They can handle Tebow’s power run, he isn’t slow but he isn’t as shifty either.
I love the Steelers.
In re #5
(or really, question #5 about #7) I would really love to see Ben finally put the team on his shoulders consistently throughout the playoffs. That would finally shut up the people who have questioned his “eliteness” in the playoffs. (And to be fair they have a point – he hasn’t always shone on the big stage, although, like the curate’s egg, his has been great in parts…)
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 4, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
He has had some stinkers in the playoffs and that is what everyone remembers, not your midseason 1 o clock game against the Titans. If Ben can just get through this injury ok this week he’ll need to up his level of play. He is our best player on offense and he needs to be slinging it to Sanders, Saunders, Miller, Wallace, Brown, and Ward as much as possible.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 5, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
5 Questions...
1. I don’t think 86 or any other number should retired until the player is in both the Steelers and NFL Halls of Fame.
2. I think either Ben Roethlisberger or Brett Keisel should have received this award. The are more instrumental to their respective sides of the ball than Antonio Brown is,
3. Yes, I agree with Mike Tomlin on this. No football game is worth risking a man’s life for.
4. As much as I would hate to see it come down to Ward playing running back, I would put he or any other player on the roster there if the situation dictated that.
5. Offensively I think Ben Roethlisberger needs to find the rhythm he had before the ankle injury. Defensively I believe Lamar Woodley has to successfully return from his hamstring injury and wreak havoc on opposing offenses stopping both the run and pass games.
6. Pittsburgh’s defense needs to stay disciplined and stay with their assignments. They can not lose their lanes of containment while either pass rushing or playing the run. They need to make Tim Tebow beat them with his arm.
BB is MVP, no question
2. The players don’t bother to give it to him because QBs get all the glory already. But be serious—who is the one player we HAVE TO HAVE to do any damage in the playoffs? The question answers itself.
I would feel a lot better about our chances if he were 100%.
Was BB the MVP when JH or TP won defensive player of the year?
By that logic, every starting QB on every team would be their MVP every season. Of course the franchise QB is going to be the most crucial position – it’s why teams love to gamble in the 1st round on their QB, in the chance of getting a good one.
Antonio Brown went way beyond what we expect out of a WR/KR, so far beyond no one has done that before with the Steelers. BB performed well, but didn’t exactly break any records. So it’s just how you define MVP, then.
(I would argue that JH, when he was defensive player of the year, was still less crucial to our success than BB. Same with TP. Doesn’t mean that BB gets the MVP every time)
Todd Seabaugh
was the unlikely Steeler who wore #59 after Jack Ham back in 1984. Odd to see that number given out so quickly to a player like Seabaugh, who I believe lasted only one season.
1. I’s like to see it, but its pretty hard to “retire” alot of WRs numbers. Swann’s and Stallworth’s 88 and 82 were already re-issued. But Ward deserves the unofficial honor.
2. Yes he deserves it. The only other players that I think might deserve it would be Brett Keisel or Ben Roethlisberger.
3. No, you don’t mess with a man’s life for just a game. Just wish they could be more prepared.
4. Whats Willie Parker doing these days? Right now the RB line up looks like Redman, Clay, and Spann with Moore likely out.
5. Offense Roethlisberger and the OL. defense Polamalu, we need him in both run and pass support and to cause more splash plays.
6. Wallace is a much better passer than Tebow, and maybe just as good of an athlete. If we can contain Tebow in the pocket we will win. Just don’t allow him to make plays and get in a rhythm in the passing game.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Jan 4, 2012 9:58 AM EST reply actions
5 Burning Answers
4. No, besides the fact that Ward was a lot younger and his opponents much smaller back then, he doesn’t know the plays, and we can move the ball okay with a short passing game like the Eagles did with McNabb. Put David Johnson or Weslye Saunders in to pick up blitzes and be receivers out of the backfield, maybe surprise teams with a running play once in a while.
Bronco fan here respectivley
im predicting 32-6…Steelers…
Best safety, and amazing linebacking group are killers for Tebow…
More like 16-9
The Steelers rarely ring up big score on anybody, largely because we go conservative to burn clock with a lead rather than run up the score like certain teams who have no defense. Besides, a good Denver pass rush and an injured Big Ben will prevent us from getting into much of an offensive rhythm.
Not healthy at all
The injury is affecting his accuracy and mobility, so he’s not playing near the level he was earlier in the season.
by SteelStealth on Jan 4, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
hmm so its going to come down to whether or not Tim Tebow can score against the best D in the league?
haha ya… im not so confident
Scary thing is...
…our defense, with its league leading 14.2 points per game allowed, is more than we’ve scored in 3 out of our last 4 games.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
1. No. He is a team all-time great but was never the best WR in the NFL.
2. To me the MVP should go the the guy that is the hardest to replace in the lineup. TO me that is Ben but Brown is a close second.
3. No question
4. No. BA just wants to pass the bal anyway so use Johnson to block out of the bacfield and run the ocasional screen.
5. Offense – Ben needs to play like he did before the unjury.
Defense – Timmons. He is going to be dropping back in coverage alot so he is going to have to break to the ball when Tebow tucks and goes. He should also get the chance at a few picks off of mis throws.
6. Blanket his receivers and colapse the pocket around him. That will force bad throws and keep his rushing lanes minimalized.
We just put Chris Carter on IR
Good gracious this is ridiculous.
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The injury situation
heading into the playoffs is the worst I can remember dating back to 1972.
by SteelStealth on Jan 4, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
tell me about it
If we win the SB it will be the most impressive feat the Steelers have accomplished in my lifetime.(I’m only 27).
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I thought last year's performance was impressive
with regards to winning while banged up.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 4, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
it was
but we didn’t win the SB, we gotta win!!!! :P
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 5, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
1. Needs to? No. But he probably should. If you looked up the definition of what a Pittsburgher wants a Steeler to be, look, and play like you see his picture. From the huge blocks, the tough catches, the smile, and the fact he has never worn another jersey are reason to honor his contribution to the franchise.
2. Brown deserved the award for his productivity on 3rd down alone. How many times were the Steelers facing 3rd down and long only to have him find space or make a tough catch that moved the chains?
3. I think Tomlin is making the right decision. Life threatening is life threatening. It is unfortunate though that this match up would seemingly play to Clark’s strengths against the run. But if the Steelers can’t stop the Fighting Tebows with a second stringer (Mundy, who has been productive when he’s played) they honestly don’t deserve to win.
4. If worst come to worst, and another RB goes down, I’d rather see the quick, short passes and the game plan the Steelers used with great affect against the Pats. Yeah I know the New England secondary couldn’t cover a parking cone, but surely the Steelers could run some kind of offense like that rather than throw Hines to the wolves like that. Although seeing him picking up blitzers and subsequently lay them out would have been fun back in the day when he was laying out everyone.
5. I’ll name two for offense. Max Starks and Marcus Gilbert. Von Miller is a revelation and Elvis Dumerville is a beast. Starks and Gilbert need to play one hell of a game in order for Ben to live to see another playoff game this year. On defense I’d like to see more of Troy being Troy. Hes certainly shown he’s still got the ability to make Defensive Player of the Year type plays, and against a guy like Tebow he could have a field day. Just think of the confusion he could do pre-snap running around like a crazy person. He looks like he gets shot out of a cannon when he recognizes a play. Against a very vanilla Denver offense I like his chances to blow plays up.
6. Seneca Wallace is no All-Pro, but the guy has been in the league for a while for a reason. And he’s not Peyton Manning, but he can throw a football, and he’s seen a number of NFL defenses before, so I think the Steelers had reason to respect his ability to throw the football. Tebow on the other hand, hasn’t played a full season, and really doesn’t throw particularly well. I think the Steelers could afford to play him to run more than to pass. I’d like to see Timmons spying Tebow this week. Timmons is a baaaad man, and if given the lone task of tracking Timmy all over the field I think he’d do ok.
Actually
Hines did wear a different number during his first training camp

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 4, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nice WVP! That is some good trivia
but I think he meant another teams Jersey.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Of course
Because Hines has been a scrapper since day one, so of course he had to not be given a WR# his first camp.
How much did Willie Reed pay Hines to pry that jersey #15 away from him?
Seriously though, good find on that picture.
by Bradhaw's index finger on Jan 4, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I love the teenage delinquent 'stache
Man, he looks young in that photo!
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
He's such a rebel
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 4, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
got it
I have 8 of those RCs…
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert.
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
"Chuck Noll is building one hell of a football team up in Pittsburgh. I look for the Steelers to be the team of the future. Just remember I said that."
- - - Immortal Packers coach Vince Lombardi in 1970, two years before the Steelers even made the playoffs under Noll
by HtownSteelerFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yes on Timmons
Others have mentioned having Polamalu spy on Tebow, but I want Troy in the secondary getting interceptions, not getting concussed in headlong collisions with Tank Tebow.
Troy would get ran over by Tebow
since Tebow is built like a LB
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Back in my day we killed five hookers and thought nothing of it" Craig James
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 4, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
This
He can take him out here and there, but mostly I want to see the Flying Samoan pick off Tebow passes, and strip the ball from him behind the line of scrimmage.
Let Timmons, who is the same weight class as Tebow and faster, chase him around the line of scrimmage, and hopefully truck him a couple of times. Tim’s a big boy- I don’t think he’s a very good QB, but most DB’s aren’t going to bring him down.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure we'll find out
and I"m sure you are wrong.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Troy would get run over by Tebow? Seriously?
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by Fifty-Eight on Jan 5, 2012 8:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would rather have Timmons
This way he won’t have to cover WRs or TEs, which he has been not doing a good job lately.
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by Han on Jan 4, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Troy doesn't take runners head on
He always goes for the knees.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 4, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
True
Unfortunately, he also occasionally takes linemen down this way while they are serving as tight ends. While admirable, he’ll be needed AFTER this week too.
I’m not saying he can’t missile Tebow, he can; I am just saying I would rather see him pick off one of those “wounded duck” passes.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
this
His problem is when he hits his head as the foot is planted against big guys. But I’d rather see him safely bring tebow to the ground, we want him to stay in the game lol
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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Roethlisberger
Last 3 games he has started since injury:
Total points scored: 30 (average 10 points)
QB passer rating for 3 games: 76. 4
TD passes: 2
Interceptions: 4
Not surprising
Ben’s performance has declined since playing with the injury, he’s one of the toughest QBs I’ve ever seen, but it’s natural to see a dip with this type of injury.
The franchise all-time completion leader won’t be healthy until the offseason.
by SteelStealth on Jan 4, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
played 2 bad teams that we beat
will play our third in the row this weekend
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
this
People don't ever seem to realize that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune.
- William McFee
by stillergorillar on Jan 4, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hines and Jersey number
I love Hines and he has played his entire career for the Steelers, but if I was unofficially retiring numbers, I would retire 26. Rod Woodson was one of the greatest defensive backs to ever play the game. I am probably biased to put him over Mel Blount since I saw Rod play in person and the majority of Blount’s career was before my time. It is not Rod’s fault that the Steelers front office misjudged him so badly after the 1996 season.
I put that decision on par with the Marino decision
and I read an interview with Rod where he siad it really hit him personally, ate him up.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
we practically have our own wing in Canton
If the Steelers started retiring numbers, then we’d have a tough time getting jersey’s for the team unless the league let us go into triple digits.
or 00-09
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Back in my day we killed five hookers and thought nothing of it" Craig James
roster
Did Madison take the roster spot opened up by Mendenhall’s injury or do we still have room for an extra running back behind Redman, Clay, and Moore?
He took that one
and Chris Carter has been put on IR to make room for Chad Spann a RB from the practice squad
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 4, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know a thing about him
other than he went to Northern Illinois and has two runs of 79 yards during his time there
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 4, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
He has two legs
and he is breathing. That may be as good as it gets.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 4, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
My answers...
1) YES! What better way to honor an offensive player who embodied the defensive reputation of the Pittsburgh Steelers to such an extent, that the league had to make a rule protecting defensive players from him? Not to mention being one of only 8 men in NFL history to reach 1,000 receptions. The organization should honor him, especially since it will be difficult for him to reach Canton, because “there are already too many Steelers” there.
2) I find it extremely insulting that the media, especially local Pittsburgh media and Steeler fans, have the audacity to question the decision of the Steeler players themselves, who the team wants to honor as MVP. Its their reward to give, its their decision, and we should learn to appreciate it , not act as if we (fans and media) know well enough what goes on inside the locker room to make such a determination.
3) Absolutely. A man’s life, and quality of life, is not worth the risk of a single game. Has not Ryan Clark given enough of his body for the team, not to mention his leadership and dedication? Tomlin said it best: “…I wouldn’t allow my son to play, under these circumstances, how could I let Clark?” (paraphrased from interview).
4) No. I’d rather see D. Johnson, W. Saunders, or even Timmons; each of them have more mass and strength.
5) Defense – Worilds, offense – Offensive Guards.
6) – Put Troy on Tebow as “Spy”. While it normally can’t be done every play, in this case force Tebow to become passer.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Saunders out of the backfield
Might be a thing of beauty. Run him straight at Von Miller, who is a hell of a pass rusher, but still learning the run D.
Let Saunders bowl over their prize rookie a couple of times, and then put him back as a blocker and receiver, and just throw 8 yard slants to Brown. Sooner or later, he’ll take one of them the distance. Then, when coverage shifts to him, throw some bombs to Wallace.
I should be an NFL coach. I’m sure there’s no learning curve involved :)
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Moore
Just heard on Denver sports radio Moore has a sprained knee.
That is why he has been out for the last 2 weeks, sprained MCL...
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Their running back situation
Is getting ridiculous.
Perhaps they should just have open tryouts on the South Side: Anyone north of 190 pounds lines up for a footrace, and the first three across the line get an extended tryout for agility and contact drills.
Whoever wins that gets a helmet on Sunday.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
#1
I would not retire Ward’s number. I’m not a big fan of setting aside numbers. We have had so many great players if we retired every single one, we’d have jerseys saying 86 1/2 because all of the whole numbers would be gone. maybe even all of the half numbers too and we’d be looking at decimals. it is not a bad problem to have, being the greatest franchise ever.
I think you are on point with your assessment and looking to the future we may have many more.
Ring of Honor is the way to handle it (of course we could run out of space there too).
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
right
retiring is a long time. that would be forever unless we “unretired” jerseys, but that would be strange. in 50 years, there will be many more great players in addition to the countless greats we have already accumulated.
Blast Furnace of Greatness
except i wouldnt call it the ring of honor, i’d call it the Blast Furnace of Greatness
I like the sound of that
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 4, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
The Crucible of Honor
cru·ci·ble /ˈkrusəbəl/ Show Spelled[kroo-suh-buhl] noun
1. a container of metal or refractory material employed for heating substances to high temperatures.
2. Metallurgy . a hollow area at the bottom of a furnace in which the metal collects.
3. a severe, searching test or trial.
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To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
The probable game plan on Sunday
It is supposed to be nice weather—sunny and low 40’s.
In 2005 when the Steelers beat the Broncos in Denver they went to the air early and often and took a 24-3 lead into half time and coasted home from there 34-17.
I see that being the same game plan on Sunday for the Steelers because of two reasons:
1) How long will Ben’s bum ankle hold up? Get the lead early and hang on
2) Take away hope from the Broncos who are young and inexperienced
The worst thing for the Steelers: To get into a similar game with the Broncos as was played by the KC Chiefs last Sunday where scoring was at a premium.
Ben not healthy, the Steelers not having the premiere running back or safety available cuts down the chances the Steelers win the longer the game continues in this fashion.
I saw Ben throw 3 picks to the SF defense. Fortunately for Ben the Broncos defense are NOT ballhawks, but the thing is in one game anything can happen, especially if the QB is hampered in his ability to throw the ball accurately, on time or with the necessary velocity because of an inability to push off on the bum ankle.
sorry troy is our premiere safety not clark
Steelers will win whether its 10-7 or 24-3
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
they would have to play the worst game ever to lose this one
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 4, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
or lose a few more key players
The depth chart is getting thin in spots.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 4, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
very thin
like the hair on the back of my son’s hair because he hates being on his belly lol
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by tannofsteel84 on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I was at that game, and we didn’t “coast” home. It got a little tense in the 3rd, when the Broncos started moving the ball. We eventually made the last 9 minutes of the game a joke though.
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by Fifty-Eight on Jan 5, 2012 8:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
1. Absolutely. He’s been the face of this franchise for almost a decade and really embodies Steeler football, put 86 on the shelf.
2. Big Ben is this team’s MVP. I really think that the Monday night game in SF took the MVP award away from him.
3. Yes; it’s absolutely foolish and morally wrong to put a player’s life at risk for a football game.
4. Not at all, we all know how slow Hines is.
5. I’m going to cheat here a bit, I think that the offensive line needs to step up as a whole in order for the Steelers to be successful not only in Denver but throughout the playoffs. On defense, I’d like to see something out of 92, he’s been pretty quiet since returning from the suspension.
6. Don’t miss tackles!
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"Did you watch XLIII?"
"No"
"Stop talking."
by Steeler fan of MN on Jan 4, 2012 12:35 PM EST reply actions
Messican's two sense...
1. No. Sorry, it will be just like the HOF.
4. Redman is all we need. I would think people on this site would know this by now.
5. No doubt, Law Dawg (Lawrence Timmons). We need him to be a elite TE covering, block shedding, RB in the backfield blowing up’n, havoc causing war machine that we’ve heard for years that he has the potential to be. He showed flashes of that last week. Time to step up on the big stage and join the likes of Harrison and Troy as a truly dominant force.
6. Stay gap disciplined. Like the great wise Warren Sapp said, Tebow can only hurt unprepared, undisciplined defenses.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jan 4, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions
Wait, are you saying Ward won't make the Hall?
Three seasons ago, I might have agreed with you, but now, I think he’s got at least a 50/50 shot.
Redefined the position from a blocking standpoint, good numbers, clutch playoff performances, a couple of rings, and a SB MVP to his name.
He may not get it first ballot, but he is certainly legitimate as a contender.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 4, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ward may be 50/50
on the first ballot for Canton, but 100/0 on eventually getting in. You’re correct about redefining the position from a blocking standpoint, and voters like to zero in on that aspect of a candidate.
Also, you’re right about the postseason production, he’s among the elite in that category. Ward also has the big advantage of being the franchise all-time leader in receptions, yardage, and TDs. While the game is more pass-oriented today, it’s important to note Ward has more receptions than HOF receivers Stallworth and Swann combined. And Ward wasn’t catching passes from a great QB until his sixth or seventh NFL season.
Ward’s numbers are definitely HOF worthy if we analyze them in the proper context. Unlike many receivers already enshrined, and others deserving like Chris Carter and Terrell Owens, Ward had the disadvantage of playing in a northern city outside. Combine that with more of a conservative offensive approach for most of his career, and the 1000 receptions are really impressive. Ward is also tied with Lance Alworth and Paul Warfield on the career TD list.
Getting back to 1000 catches, it’s a pretty exclusive club, and will remain so for many years to come. Reggie Wayne should be joining Ward in the 1000 club, but he’s still 138 catches away. After that, you have to reach down to Anquan Boldin(four years of declining numbers), and Andre Johnson at 707 and 706 with the next best chances. It’s difficult for receivers to stay healthy in their 30s.
All good arguments but....
to me, the HOF are the best players of ALL TIME at their positions. To be considered that, you have to have been the best at your position during YOUR time. Those players are the ones who earn 1st team ALL PRO. Hines has never earned 1st team ALL PRO. If he was never considered among the top during HIS time, how can he be considered the best ALL TIME?
FYI, Swann and Stallword were 1st team ALL-PROS.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Jan 4, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Correction:
“HAS”
Not “had.”
Dudes still playing, y’all! Sheesh!
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by Fifty-Eight on Jan 5, 2012 8:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Let a Denver Fan take a crack to answer your questions
1. Does #86 deserve to be retired?
Yes. Plain and simple. While many people feel he is probably the most dirtiest receiver to play the game, there is no mistake what he has done for that organization. He has been a superior player and athlete. Without Hines, seasons might have gone a bit different.
2. Should Antonio Brown receive the Steelers MVP for this season?
I can’t answer this one, as I haven’t watched enough of you guys.
3. Should the Steelers play Ryan Clark in Denver if a medical plan in place?
No. Not because I’m a Denver fan either. No human life is worth the risk of a ball game.
4. If an injury occurs in the backfield, should they consider playing Hines at tailback?
I would. Ward loves to hit, he loves contact, he has strong hands and knows how to juke. Stick him in!
5. Name one player on each side of the ball that will help Pitts. win the Lombardi this season
Big Ben. He sucks with a bum ankle from what I’ve seen. The other, Ryan Clark (if you beat Denver).
6. How to Stop Tebow
Set the edge but don’t over penetrate, maintain your gaps, don’t pursue until you see separation from the running back and quarterback to determine who has the ball. Flush him out to his right if need be. Sure you’ll give up some yards to McGahee or Ball, but you won’t allow him to scramble and get huge gains. Cover Thomas and Decker well!
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my thoughts
1. Does #86 deserve to be retired?
Love the guy, but if our other HOF players don’t have a retired number then they shouldn’t start now.
2. Should Antonio Brown receive the Steelers MVP for this season?
Great season, but the team without Brown has a chance for a title. Without Roethlisberger we can’t win the title.
3. Should the Steelers play Ryan Clark in Denver if a medical plan in place?
No way is a game worth risking a mans life. If they risked it and he died, then I don’t see the organization recovering from that. I know I’d have a hard time living with it if I were Tomlin.
4. If an injury occurs in the backfield, should they consider playing Hines at tailback?
James Harrison at RB. He may make mistakes, but he’d show up in the hole with attitude.
5. Name one player on each side of the ball that will help Pitts. win the Lombardi this season
Big Ben. Ike Taylor
6. How to Stop Tebow
Get off the bus. Then hit him hard every time they run the option, regardless if he has the ball or not (just not you Harrison because they’d suspend you for life).
7 Questions
1) Maybe, give it some time though. Bettis’s #36 already hasn’t been touched, and I’d imagine Wards’s number to stay the same way for awhile.
2) NOO. Brown was voted by his teammates. Not fans or journalists. He’s been extremely valuable as a returner and WR.
3) Yes, way way too much of a risk. Clark could have died in 2007.
4) Eh, maybe, we’ll see. I’d put David Johnson in before Ward. Ball security is the #1 thing if it got to that, and Ward has had some trouble with that reently
5) Offense: Big Ben. He needs to start putting up 24+ points again for the Steelers to really win
Defense: Llamar Woodley. He’s been hurt, but we all know he thrives in January. He needs to step up and cause the turnovers and big plays we’re used to seeing. Especially against the run this week @ Denver.
BONUS: 6) Maintain your gaps first of all, don’t over commit any direction. I really don’t think he’ll be a problem.
Here we go
I think 86 and 36 should both be “retired.” However, that being said, with the limited numbers available, I think a player should get to “earn” the right to wear one of those retired numbers. In other words, the numbers could be “semi-retired” and it could be an big honor to earn the right to wear one of those numbers.
2. Yes, I think Brown deserved it. He stepped up his game and became a duel threat as a WR and returner. I think he displayed the best performance over 16 games. I think Ike and Wallace have also been very consistent, but Brown made the most of every minute he played. Troy and Ben have been up and down…more great games than just ok games, but still a few were meh.
3. Yes. Tomlin doesn’t want to take any chances on Clark’s career, or even his life. I’m glad he didn’t even give Clark the option. They won’t need him to stop a QB that only completes 6 passes a game.
4. Why not? He’s probably not going to get many snaps as a WR. Why not line him up as the 3rd down back, if necessary, and let him throw a block or roll out for a screen/swing pass? Sounds like an EPIC idea to me!
5. Offense: Issac Redman. Not that he’s not capable, but he needs to hold up to the legacy he’s earned on BTSC and be the “most interesting RB in the NFL.” I think Arians will want to set up the run by establishing the pass, which is fine, but the running game needs to be effective when it is used. I believe the running game was great against Cleveland, but Redman tried to do to much (Superman) and lost the ball. Ben is going to get hit in this game, so if Redman can run well, it might save Ben from having to take a few hits.
I really don’t want to see Ben throwing 50+ times to win. I want this one nice and easy…like winning 28-0 at half, and resting starters.
Defense: Boy, this is a tough one. Willie Gay or Llamar Woodley? Willie Gay has had a decent season, but his one memorable play is letting Torrey Smith blow past him with seconds left to give Baltimore the season sweep (although it is Clark’s fault too). He cannot have a lapse in judgment at this point. We’ve managed to grind out a few close wins against less than average opponents, but it scares me that we are one “Willie Gay Mistake” away from losing to an inferior team. Woodley has been nicked up and not played much opposite of fellow starter, James Harrison. He needs to get to Tebow, but furthermore, not let him run away.
6. I think the key to stopping Tebow is to put a spy on him. Timmons would be my choice. Have Timmons play zone right in the flat behind Hampton and keep his eye on Tebow the whole time. Timmons is quick enough to cover the flat and be able to recognize the QB is running.
1) NO less your goning to add 88 and 82
2) without question
3) not even a question….he sits
4) no
5) Wallace – # 2 CB
6) formula’s established -outside contain and pressure…press man coverage….game over
I’ll past on the extra credit…… lol
You think Sanders and Saunders already deserve their numbers retired? Isn’t it a little early? I mean..I love them, but they should have to play for at least three years
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Ha! that picture is sweet. I’ve actually been wondering where I could find it.
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It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
This crazy new thing called Google lol.
But really, it’s on the first page of Google images.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
good questions this week
1. This is a great question b/c I think we’re in the middle of an era where several players will force the same question. Ben will eventually for sure, Troy certainly will. I’d even consider Bettis, but then again I always had a fondness for the big man with sweet feet. Other guys like Casey Hampton and Aaron Smith should get some consideration even though they probably won’t b/c of the positions they play. Oh yea back to the original question, YES, but not b/c he was ever a truly great player amongst his WR peers. My yes is because he is the definition of Steeler football.
2. Sure, his contributions as a WR and PR have been invaluable.
3. MT puts his guys health and well being above the game, I bet that plays extrememly well in the room.
4. Meh, if we’re gonna run some kind of gimmick, let’s give the ball to James Harrison. Or better yet, why not line up #92 at QB and see if he could draw a penalty for roughing the passer. How hard would he had to get hit for Goodell to levy a fine for hitting his poster child….hehe
5. On offense, we need Mike Wallace to take the top of the defense. If he can stretch the field, it makes it easier on everyone. On defense, give me a healthy and playoff dominant Lamar Woodley.
6. Just do what lesser defenses have done to him the past three weeks. It’s not rocket science to stop Tebow anymore, the game plan is out. Just execute it.
Go big or go home!!
by average joe blow on Jan 4, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions
#5
Hampton (and McLendon) have got to collapse the middle. Make the Trip- op one legged so to speak. Farrior and Timmons must take the pitch man and punish him every time they run that set. Tebow is a big guy and plays hard but if he wants to run that college s..t make his a.. pay for it.
I want to say Redman on O but Starks and Gilbert will have their hands full with Miller and Dumerville. Both have to bring it to keep Ben upright and healthy. If they play well we should win this and helps Ben with one more week of healing for the Shit Birds or Tomgina GO STEELERS!!!!!
"you will hardly know who I am or what I mean"-Walt Whitman
Ben suffered a setback
with his ankle in Cleveland, according to Ed Bouchette.
5.
Offense: Max Starks
Defense: Keenan Lewis
Fairly obvious, hobbled Ben = needs solid protection from his blind side, and outside of Denver, every team we are going to play plans on throwing the ball … a lot.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Anybody know
how long it was after Swann and Stallworth retired until their numbers were used?
36 ain’t getting touched for a while, neither should 86.
+1 on the 36
Was looking for someone to say the Bus. So unofficially, 26, 36, & 86. Are there any other #’s ending in 6 that should be unofficially retired? (Aside from maybe in 10-15 years #56)
If Suisham makes all of his kicks in this run to #7, maybe?
Would steel rather have TDs instead.
"you will hardly know who I am or what I mean"-Walt Whitman
Wasn't long at all
Craig Dunaway wore Swann’s number the year after #88 retired, and Derek Hill wore Stallworth’s number two years after #82 retired
1) No but not because Hines doesn’t deserve it. There just have been too many great Steelers and not enough numbers to start retiring everyone who is deserving.
2) I didn’t but his teammates did and that speaks volumes.
3) Tomlin right. Clark’s doctor wrong. The game is dangerous enough without taking foolish risks.
4)I would put Harrison in at RB before Hines. Who would dare tackle him?
5) BB and Hampton
6) I am not worried about Tebow’s running. I don’t expect him to get 100 yards or a TD.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 4, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions
#4
Manny Sanders. When he’s in the lineup, it is more fluid. BB looks for him on 3rd down and he has some YAC abilities. On D, ILB’s because we have to be able to cover the TE’s of Balt and NE better than we have.
WHY IS TEBOW PLAYING SO POORLY?
Tim Tebow will be blessed by ending his endorsement of the company
named after the pagan goddess NIKE.
The God who gifted Tim with his skills is not happy with that…
the pagan goddess NIKE began with Satan…
God is opposed to Tim’s support of the company honoring the name of that goddess.
God has sent me to share this.

Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 4, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
lol this gif is so awesome
it fits the response perfectly to the commet … errr…. What?
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
doesn't god have better things to do?
or what I really wanted to say:
DERP DERP DERP
"I respect everyone on the football field. But some people I don't like. And some people I dislike even more." - James Harrison
by steely mcballs on Jan 4, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Shut up. You're annoying.
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by Fifty-Eight on Jan 5, 2012 8:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That sums it up
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
1. No, not unless you start retiring numbers of other Steeler greats. And once you start doing that, there will be very few numbers left to be had
2. Yes, but it also could’ve gone to Ben
3. Yes, it’s the right choice. Not worth the risk vs. Tebow
4. I think you only do that in a worst case scenario
5. Offense: Redman/Ben Defense: Woodley
1. Sure, why not…but you are going to have to add, at least, 43 and 7 to that list someday.
2. The most “valuable” player wears #43.
3. Yeah…he almost died in 2007…he has a wife and kids (I think)…it would be idiotic for him to risk that just for a game.
4. Hell no.
5. Issac Redman, James Harrison
6. Play tight man-to-man on the WR’s/TE’s, have Timmons or Polamalu spy him at all times, force him to roll to his right.
Hines
No. Not unless others already in the HOF are retired, as well as Jerome Bettis, a sure-fire HOF’er. Hines and Jerome are on the exact same tier, although JB has better stats/rankings.
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by Fifty-Eight on Jan 5, 2012 8:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
#3
Would winning a Super Bowl be consolation for Ryan Clark dying?
Could we handle not winning a championship this year in order to have Ryan Clark live?
Literally true in this case; this isn’t life and death, this is just a game.
by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Jan 5, 2012 8:54 AM EST reply actions
Great questions!
1. Yep.
2. I think AB was a great choice. This kid is the real thing great hands, great speed. He will see plenty more Pro Bowls. However, we cannot win against anyone, except the weakest of teams without Ben.
3. This is not even a real question in the Steeler Nation. God bless us, every one!
4. Well, if you don’t want unproven rookies carrying the rock, somebody’s got to do it. I would try it if Mr. Redman goes down.
5. Ben must get it to Wallace and AB down the field. You cannot beat Baltimore or NE without a strong vertical passing game. You may not beat Denver without it either, but I fail to see how Denver scores more than 10 – 13 pts, barring turnovers. On defense, I go with Harrison. 92 need to terrorize Tebow. I think it may be different when we play the Ratbirds and the Rats’ Asses — I think Willie Gay needs to continue his fine play.
6. Contain, then hit HARD.
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." -Jack Lambert, 1990 HoF Introduction
"Most of the time, the most physical team has a chance to win. That is not a reality we shy away from." --Mike Tomlin

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