Opponent Spotlight: Broncos QB Tim Tebow
We'll open this by saying football is not played in religious or political circles. I can't figure out what's a bigger waste of time, arguing about Broncos QB Tim Tebow's success as some kind of religion-based miracle, or generating venomous hate and groundless anger based on the same concepts.
Let's just keep this about football.
And on a football field, Tebow gives the Broncos elements typically linked with success. He also leaves a lot to be desired.
Why Tebow has had a modicum of success this season is simple, really. He's extremely difficult to tackle, despite being such a large target. The energy in which he plays is only outweighed by his size. When a 250 pound guy gets in the open field with a head of steam, he can do some damage to 190 pound cornerbacks in pursuit. The reason he gets in the open field is because linemen and linebackers aren't quick enough to stay with him when he's on the move.
The Jets learned that lesson the hard way. Late in the fourth quarter in their Week 11 game, the Jets brought a heavy blitz aimed at forcing Tebow to leave the pocket. It worked. He left the pocket. The problem was at that point no Jets defender in front of Tebow wanted any piece of him.
He scored from 20 yards out to give the Broncos their third win of what would eventually be a six-game winning streak. It also marked the real beginning of Tebowmania.
Some called it inspirational. It was more like shoddy tackling from a non-playoff team that did not want to play physical football.
In a lot of ways, Kansas City's game plan last week may very well put an end to Tebowmania. Not because he's a bad person or because he doesn't deserve the hype he gets. The Chiefs corralled Tebow simply by making him make the first move.
Much of the Chiefs defensive game plan was to squeeze Tebow out of the pocket while keeping their linebackers a few yards off the line of scrimmage, holding their ground. The Chiefs didn't blitz much up the middle, maintained discipline in their lanes and didn't overpursue him. By doing that, Tebow had to make the first move, and while he's an excellent athlete, he doesn't have great lateral speed. He's a really powerful runner, but that doesn't help you in the open field against a tackler who's in good position to make the stop.
Essentially, they were forcing him - daring him - to throw. The result was a poor passing game for the Broncos, and just three points on the scoreboard.
Expect Pittsburgh to mirror the same concept. Kansas City's defense is built very similarly to Pittsburgh's personnel-wise. It will be interesting to see whether the Steelers will play the secondary in man coverage as often as Kansas City did, but with the Steelers pass rush looking to finally return to full force (the return of LaMarr Woodley could be a huge part of this game), the Steelers can play on the edge, gambling Tebow cannot beat them with his arm.
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Not this year Broncos.
The Steelers are too disciplined to allow Tebow to do too much. Their recievers have no deep threats and drop balls often. It may be a low scoring game with our gimpy offense, but if we get ahead by too much Tim will be in trouble.
on paper yes, lets hope in reality too
I feel the same way, our D should be able to handle him but I always worry about games like this where we should win.
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by Rickfansince76 on Jan 7, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
But do they know that we know?
Do you think that maybe Denver has figured out that the league has figured out Tebow’s running game? Much like the Steelers did the last time they entered the playoffs as a wild card (and the last time they faced Denver in the postseason), Denver might look to catch teams by surprise by opening up with a wide-open passing game.
Will Tebow air it out to start the game to try to catch the Steelers off guard?
If he does air it out, and it does take them by surprised...
…the Steelers will have plenty of time to adjust, and get under the ball. It takes him like five seconds to throw.
by Neal Coolong on Jan 7, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
This
Also, while Tebowing is not a phenomenon I have any interest in, can I just say that it’s pretty awesome that he is basically doing the Heisman in the photo you chose?
I think the most effective thing Tebow could do to help the Broncos win tomorrow is sit on the bench. Although, their backup is Brady Quinn- if it were Orton, I might be concerned about the Steelers chances.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 7, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Brady Quinn will see action, I think. Not because he is better, but because he spent some time in the AFCN.
I get the sneaking suspicion that they will alternate Tebow with Quinn, and try to keep the steelers d off balance. Run? Pass? Tebow passes? Quinn runs? Play action roll outs?
All Denver needs is one or two passing plays and a couple of good runs for big yardage or even a score to keep the momentum in their favor. Steelers can’t make any mistakes on defense, and hopefully the O line keeps Ben clean while wallace wakes up. Denver’s defense is going to show up big time. I’d expect the misfortune of RB coach won’t have a negative effect.
That would mess up their rhythm a lot
Better just to stick with Tebow and let him get a feel for the defense instead of taking him out messing up the flow of the offense. They would have to play a conventional offense when Quinn is in, and then convert back to that shotgun/hybrid offense they run with Tebow. I dont know if its a wise move switching up your style in a game like this.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 7, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Tebow as FB
It would make an interesting variant on the wildcat.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
If you think for a minute that Quinn can beat us..
Then I got some swamp land to sell you in Florida. It would be nothing that we haven’t seen before. Denver WR’s will still drop balls with Quinn (or Bress for that manner). They dont have good timing with their QBs. A little late to change ‘horses’ on the middle of the stream. This game should be entertaining though.
Tebow's biggest strength
I think Tebow’s biggest strength is the way he elevates the level of play of those around him. I remember espn making a lot of noise about how much better the offensive line started playing when Tebow became their quarterback. As a former offensive lineman, let me tell you, there’s nothing that would get me more pumped up than my quarterback laying his body on the line for the team. If I watched my qb taking on linebackers and trucking defensive backs, I would really want to fight for that guy. The way he’s rallied the entire broncos team around him speaks volumes of his leadership ability, and I think that’s his strongest asset
There are two kinds of people in this world: those who place everyone into two groups, and those who don't.
I bet Aldon Smith agrees with this
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 7, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
It's unlikely that Tebow can beat us with his arm.
He doesn’t have the arm strength or accuracy to pick us apart. But he’s big and fast enough to give us some trouble running the ball if we don’t shadow him with our LBs or safeties.
Indeed
But the way to stop Tebow is to employ dudes like Lawrence Timmons. Fortunately, the Steelers DO employ him.
Also, has anyone else noticed that this defense seems a bit more hard-nosed when Foote is on the field? I noticed in ‘09, when he left, that the fire he brings seemed to be lacking. He’s not entirely unlike TT- what he lacks in pure measurables, he makes up for in getting dudes around him motivated.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 7, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I've brought this up before, but...
This game is eerily similar to last year’s Wildcard matchup between the Ravens and Chiefs, which was lopsided to say the least. The difference is Tebow. He’s not as good a passer as Matt Cassell, but he won’t let his team give up.
As my moniker indicates, I saw plenty of Tim Tebow in college, and I said at the time that in the NFL he would probably never be more than a really good wildcat specialist. The biggest thing he gives you, though, is that his team will always be in close games.
Indeed
Here’s to hoping it ain’t close. That’s why a lot of teams lost to Tebow in November- they let him and his team hang around too long, and then didn’t have the will to finish the game.
I can question Tebow’s ability to be an effective passing QB in this league, but for as much as I root against him, it seems pretty evident that his teammates find him inspiring.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 7, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure that we should give him props for "not letting his team give up"
There are special teams players that do the same thing.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 7, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Been thinking the same thing!
I have a hard time figuring out how the Steelers lose this game but I have a sneaky suspicion this game is going to give us a heart attack and be like 13-10
steeler playoff
when game gets close steelers play best
Tebow Time may be over
Here’s an analysis of the upcoming game.
http://ballsohardfootball.weebly.com/1/post/2012/01/afc-west-update-tebow-time-running-out.html
Any thoughts?
Ben Roethlisberger vs Tim Tebow
———————————————————————- Ben -———————Tim
Points scored last 3 games played -——————30————————— 40
TD passes thrown -—————————————2——————————-1
Interceptions———————————————-4——————————-4
Passer rating———————————————76.4————————-44.8
Neither QB with spectacular stats to close out the season.
Ben = injured, while Tebow is just terrible.
Awful comparison.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
But
Techo got what were probably Tebow’s 2 worst games in NFL also…
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Tebow wasn't playing with a nearly broken ankle either...
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough...
However Big Ben is out there since ’04 right?
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 8, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Either way Tebow is only 10% of what Ben is.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
How about
Comparing Big Ben 10 first starts with Tebow’s?
And don’t forget the kid didn’t have an offseason to practice…
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 8, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Comparing Big Ben 10 first starts with Tebow’s?
If you insist :)
Big Ben first ten starts:
- 66.5% completion pct.
- 1915 yards (191.5 yards per game)
- 8.13 YPA
- 6 interceptions
- 12 touchdowns
- 1 rushing touchdown
- 2 fumbles lost
- 96.1 QB Rating
Tebow first ten starts (doesn’t include KC game):
- 48.5% completion pct.
- 1590 yards (159.0 yards per game)
- 7.26 YPA
- 5 interceptions
- 11 touchdowns
- 5 rushing touchdowns
- 5 fumbles lost
- 81.4 QB Rating
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Not all that difference, right?
Especially when you consider the NO offseason hurting Tebow, the rushing TDs and the rushing yds gained, which you didn’t show here.
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 8, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
idungeddit
why is he throwing to antonio brown?

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